Rumor: Jim Buss Fired! Jeanie "Cleaning House"

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Is there anything else supporting this? I haven't seen this anywhere

Doesn't make sense to me why would they do this halfway through the season? And with the trade deadline coming up why would they want to cut Mitch?

Yep nothing official yet but this could be a strong rumor. Wasn't Jim Buss supposed to get until the end of next season?

steven18 wrote:
Is there anything else supporting this? I haven't seen this anywhere

It's all over bleacher report and hoops hype. Just hope Jeanie isn't bringing in her fiance to run things.

kkennon1 wrote:
It's all over bleacher report and hoops hype. Just hope Jeanie isn't bringing in her fiance to run things.

Oh boy! You know what will follow?

DLO, Clarkson and Randle will waste another year trying to learn the triangle rather than develop their skills.

Hope Phil did not fire Fisher so he can bring him to LA

LOL

I still don't get why so many people trust Jeanie to run things any better. She hasn't exactly made any great decisions either. The only thing that can make this whole thing worse is if she brings Phil back here. That's not a good idea IMO.

kkennon1 wrote:
It's all over bleacher report and hoops hype. Just hope Jeanie isn't bringing in her fiance to run things.

It's a rumor. Smh.

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I have also heard that it’s very, very possible that Jeanie Buss is going to keep her word and fire her brother Jim Buss �" thank the good lord �" and that Mitch Kupchak may very well not be safe as well.

How definitive that is remains to be seen. But that is the chatter in NBA circles.

As far as Jim Buss, his deadline for turning around the team or losing his job has been a source of contention. But even Jeannie, who gives him less time than he gives himself, said he had until the summer of 2017.

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/02/08/rumor-lakers-would-fire-byron-scott-for-luke-walton/

IMO, the people that I would have fired in order are 1. Scott, 2. Mitch, 3. Jim. Scott is #1 for obvious reasons. The other two I'm not totally against keeping, if not for the fact that their strategy in signing FA is totally archaic. They need to build a solid team first, before marquee FAs will even think of coming here. These are a couple of GM candidates that I would like to see take over if Mitch were to be fired. Troy Weaver (currently assistant GM for the Thunder) - He was the guy that recruited Melo to Syracuse and....

Show me the scroll.... Until I see it on the scroll it's all bullsh*t rumors

Can we get Jerry West back. He can be VP of basketball reporting to Jeanie. I would actually like to see Ryan West get a shot as GM. The bloodlines should speak for themselves and since he started working more with the draft we have done well.

Bringing back Phil would make things worse. The Lakers need to move forward, not backwards.......

IhatetheCeltics wrote:
Bringing back Phil would make things worse. The Lakers need to move forward, not backwards.......

Amen brother!!!!!

I would not be entirely opposed to bringing Phil back if he's willing to let whoever the new coach is run something besides the triangle. He hasn't done a bad job in New York.

kerby720 wrote:
I still don't get why so many people trust Jeanie to run things any better. She hasn't exactly made any great decisions either. The only thing that can make this whole thing worse is if she brings Phil back here. That's not a good idea IMO.
The only thing that I hope Jeannie does is hire basketball people to run the franchise and not having guys like Buss who does it as a hobby or Mitch who is just below average period.

kkennon1 wrote:
It's all over bleacher report and hoops hype. Just hope Jeanie isn't bringing in her fiance to run things.

How long they been engaged?

Rozelo wrote:
Oh boy! You know what will follow?

DLO, Clarkson and Randle will waste another year trying to learn the triangle rather than develop their skills.

Hope Phil did not fire Fisher so he can bring him to LA

LOL

That would be hilarious

JJCali wrote:
How long they been engaged?

2 or 3 years I believe.

Lakers4Lyfe wrote:
2 or 3 years I believe.

Seems like forever

There’s still a strong belief Jackson will eventually find his way to his fiancée Jeanie Buss and the Los Angeles Lakers. Walton will be competing with Thibodeau for the Lakers job in the spring, and who knows: Jackson and Walton could be reunited there. 

1 hour ago �" via Yahoo! Sports

JJCali wrote:
Seems like forever

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure they've been dating for like 15 years, just didn't officially get engaged until recently though.

Lakers4Lyfe wrote:
2 or 3 years I believe.

Will they ever marry? Or do they just like being engaged?

They're not exactly young anymore. Time is running out... Smile

By the way, does Jeannie actually have the authority to fire Jim?

Shouldn't all 5 brothers agree on this?

Rozelo wrote:
By the way, does Jeannie actually have the authority to fire Jim?

Shouldn't all 5 brothers agree on this?

She has executive power. She could veto player trades if she wanted but said she respects her brothers role and would not get involved in player personnel and coaching staff.

Rozelo wrote:
Will they ever marry? Or do they just like being engaged?

They're not exactly young anymore. Time is running out... Smile

Ain't nothing like an Ol Playa..lol!!!!....Whatever their relationship makeup is, it's working for them so why fix something that's not broken. Just sayin. No pun intended.

Phil is getting what he wants without walking down the aisle lol.

MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
Rumor, however this is Adrian Wojnarowski so cannot totally rubbish it either.
For as long as Jeanie and PJ are together, that rumor is going to exist. At 70 years old PJ is not going to offer the Lakers anything. The guy lives and dies by the triangle. Just like Scott he refuses to believe that 3 pointers are a huge part of the modern game.
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In a lot of ways, Jackson exists in a parallel universe to the NBA. He hires coaches out of his world, personnel scouts out of his world.Jackson isn't using the Knicks' vast resources to lure the....

I would hope PJ doesn't come back considering the job he's done with the Knicks so far. I'd much rather Jeanie contact Jerry West up in Golden State to come down and right the ship. It's good to hear that the end to this debacle is almost here though. I'm glad that Jeanie found time to finally do what she should've done two years ago.

tmike23 wrote:
I would hope PJ doesn't come back considering the job he's done with the Knicks so far. I'd much rather Jeanie contact Jerry West up in Golden State to come down and right the ship. It's good to hear that the end to this debacle is almost here though. I'm glad that Jeanie found time to finally do what she should've done two years ago.

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However, in an interview with 95.7 The Game, West said that a return to Los Angeles “would not happen” as he simply “wouldn’t be asked to go back there.”

Here’s a transcript of the short Lakers-related conversation on the radio show:

RADIO SHOW HOST:

Would you ever consider going back to the Lakers if you were asked?

JERRY WEST:

Well, you know, first of all, I wouldn’t be asked to go back there, OK. That would not happen.

RADIO SHOW HOST:

Why not?

JERRY WEST:

Well, it just wouldn’t happen. Trust me. I think I’m really content up there with the Warriors. I love the people there. It’s fun to be around.

http://lakerholicz.com/jerry-west-possible-return-lakers-wouldnt-asked-trust/2015/02/14

I'm so done with all these Jurassic guys we need to promote Ryan West (as GM) son of Jerry west who is already working in our front office (for those who are not aware of this). Pair him with Luke Walton as the coach and sit back and let the young product on/off the court grow.

Good to hear Jeanie is sticking with her plan, going to make for an awkward holiday season at the Buss residence but they'll live.

While I'm not fond of the triangle Phil's name alone would give free agents a little more reassurance that the franchise is headed in a positive direction. Luke I don't believe would incorporate the entire triangle offense just some aspects of it.

I personally believe that the best interest of this organization is for it to be sold if things don't change. Jim is too emotional and let's his pride get in the way of his decisions. I respect Jeanie a lot but I don't believe she's fit to run an organization either. She's trying to keep her fathers dream alive and I can't knock her for that honestly but I can't say I believe she will make the right decisions either.

Magic Johnson was on First Take today. He said that he believes both of them, primarily Jim needs to step aside and let a real basketball mind come in and run the organization while they continue to just own the team. Will they do this? I don't know and who would be willing to come do that? I don't know. He also said he doesn't believe at all that they'd consider selling but he said if they did he'd be the first in line to buy it.

I don't want to come across as overreacting but the way these next two summers play out will dictate our future for years to come. We can't afford anymore coaching or front office mistakes. It will just set us back again.

https://twitter.com/wojverticalnba/status/697087815574798337

There is a very interesting article embedded in the tweet as well. If Jackson is in control expect a remote control robot coach on the floor implementing the triangle. That's why Kerr never chose the Knicks offer and went to GSW.

Fwiw: I'm fed up with Magic's rants towards buss siblings especially Jim buss. He has been doing this since 2011 after he sold his minor stakes in the laker organization. Both Stephen a smith and magic keep spinning the same bs against Jim Buss and come up with various conspiracy theories. Magic going on first take and ranting makes it a very convenient Union. Lol. Magic did say he would be first in line if they decided to sell it however... Lmao it's all coming out now...

MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
https://twitter.com/wojverticalnba/status/697087815574798337

There is a very interesting article embedded in the tweet as well. If Jackson is in control expect a remote control robot coach on the floor implementing the triangle. That's why Kerr never chose the Knicks offer and went to GSW.

Maybe, GSW was also a far better team with a lot more talent.

Lakers4Lyfe wrote:
Maybe, GSW was also a far better team with a lot more talent.

Maybe he didn't want to be remote controlled as well by the triangle God.

Lakers4Lyfe wrote:
I personally believe that the best interest of this organization is for it to be sold if things don't change. Jim is too emotional and let's his pride get in the way of his decisions. I respect Jeanie a lot but I don't believe she's fit to run an organization either. She's trying to keep her fathers dream alive and I can't knock her for that honestly but I can't say I believe she will make the right decisions either.

Magic Johnson was on First Take today. He said that he believes both of them, primarily Jim needs to step aside and let a real basketball mind come in and run the organization while they continue to just own the team. Will they do this? I don't know and who would be willing to come do that? I don't know. He also said he doesn't believe at all that they'd consider selling but he said if they did he'd be the first in line to buy it.

I don't want to come across as overreacting but the way these next two summers play out will dictate our future for years to come. We can't afford anymore coaching or front office mistakes. It will just set us back again.

First in line to buy it? The guy could barely risk $50 million in his dodgers investment. Where is he going to get $3 billion!

Magic obviously has a right to his opinion but if he really loved the Lakers like he proclaims then why did he sell his shares. The guy is like a broken record.

Changing ownership very rarely changes anything. Are the clippers any better under Balmer, are the dodgers any better under magic and co. Are the kings any better? The Jacksonville jaguars, the Chicago cubs, the dolphins, the bills, the Charlotte hornets, the Brooklyn nets. Yes it worked for the Warriors but they had already drafted Curry. The team was always going to be built around him.

For as much criticism as Jim Buss and Mitch Kupchak get, Dr. Triangle would be worse. He wants a puppet coach who will do exactly as he says. That means Jim Clemmons, Kurt, or B Shaw. The Lakers don't need that, they need someone who is onward thinking. Jackson doesn't hire the best people, he hires people he feels comfortable with. He's a stubborn old man who is the opposite of onward thinking.

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Report: Still Strong Belief Phil Jackson Eventually Return To The Lakers Golden State assistant Luke Walton is closest to a legitimately coveted candidate with ties to Jackson and the triangle �" and he's still largely unproven,....

Tempy wrote:
First in line to buy it? The guy could barely risk $50 million in his dodgers investment. Where is he going to get $3 billion!

Magic obviously has a right to his opinion but if he really loved the Lakers like he proclaims then why did he sell his shares. The guy is like a broken record.

Changing ownership very rarely changes anything. Are the clippers any better under Balmer, are the dodgers any better under magic and co. Are the kings any better? The Jacksonville jaguars, the Chicago cubs, the dolphins, the bills, the Charlotte hornets, the Brooklyn nets. Yes it worked for the Warriors but they had already drafted Curry. The team was always going to be built around him.

My dodgers are in a way better position the. The last ownership

TERRY-TEAGLE wrote:
My dodgers are in a way better position the. The last ownership

Well they are throwing money at anyone they can. How many times have they been to the world finals?

In 2013 the dodgers had a payroll of $239 million, 2014 $246 million, 2015 $300 million.

Close to $800 million in wages. The royals are valued at $700 million.

That is not a good sign of ownership. Just like Prokhorov with the Nets. Money has no guarantee of winning.

Yes they might be in a better position but they are still not winning, so can you say that $800 million has been well spent?

Tempy wrote:
Well they are throwing money at anyone they can. How many times have they been to the world finals?

In 2013 the dodgers had a payroll of $239 million, 2014 $246 million, 2015 $300 million.

Close to $800 million in wages. The royals are valued at $700 million.

That is not a good sign of ownership. Just like Prokhorov with the Nets. Money has no guarantee of winning.

Yes they might be in a better position but they are still not winning, so can you say that $800 million has been well spent?

Couple things.... The have built up our farm system and have laid down a foundation

2nd... They get a lot of slack for the payroll... But these guys did not sign Eithier to that dumb contract, did not trade for Crawford and his 20Mil per year, did not sign bums like Brandon League and Brian Wilson, Give Juan Uribe 7M per year... I can go on and on.

They had to re-sign Kersh ... Yey they've spent some money in international players but saying the payroll is all their fault is not accurate.

TERRY-TEAGLE wrote:
Couple things.... The have built up our farm system and have laid down a foundation

2nd... They get a lot of slack for the payroll... But these guys did not sign Eithier to that dumb contract, did not trade for Crawford and his 20Mil per year, did not sign bums like Brandon League and Brian Wilson, Give Juan Uribe 7M per year... I can go on and on.

They had to re-sign Kersh ... Yey they've spent some money in international players but saying the payroll is all their fault is not accurate.

I didn't say it was their fault. What I said was a change of ownership doesn't equal success. Which is true in the case of every single franchise I named. Sure the dodgers are better but how much better? They keep getting eliminated early in the playoffs, is that much better than what they were doing before?

Replacing the Buss family is not a guarantee of anything. People keep listening to magic run his mouth and don't think for themselves.

Tempy wrote:
I didn't say it was their fault. What I said was a change of ownership doesn't equal success. Which is true in the case of every single franchise I named. Sure the dodgers are better but how much better? They keep getting eliminated early in the playoffs, is that much better than what they were doing before?

Replacing the Buss family is not a guarantee of anything. People keep listening to magic run his mouth and don't think for themselves.

Well, we got rid of our sh*tty manager... Lol... And have guys in upper management who have a clue. You can't win it over night. And a lot of luck is involved. I do like what the dodgers are doing though. Build the farm system and have them grow. Kind of what the lakers are doing now and continue to do. Mix in a few free agents , get a good coach who knows what the hell he's doing ....

Tempy wrote:
First in line to buy it? The guy could barely risk $50 million in his dodgers investment. Where is he going to get $3 billion!

Magic obviously has a right to his opinion but if he really loved the Lakers like he proclaims then why did he sell his shares. The guy is like a broken record.

Changing ownership very rarely changes anything. Are the clippers any better under Balmer, are the dodgers any better under magic and co. Are the kings any better? The Jacksonville jaguars, the Chicago cubs, the dolphins, the bills, the Charlotte hornets, the Brooklyn nets. Yes it worked for the Warriors but they had already drafted Curry. The team was always going to be built around him.

I'm not saying the team should just be immediately sold and that will solve all the issues. The same problems will still exist. I would rather it stay within the Buss family and for them to just let someone come in and run the show but I don't think that will happen. Maybe I'm wrong though.

Love the idea of promoting Ryan West to the helm. He's probably been the guy helping Mitch with drafting some of the guys we've been able to draft the past couple of seasons. He's done a very good job of doing so too and if it helps bring his father down here, I'm all for it. Jeanie's attachment to Phil shouldn't mean bringing Phil back here. He's too big of a personality and just reading some of the things he's said post Fisher firing, it just seems like he holds the keys to the franchise and is very stubborn about coach's running the triangle. He's done a lot for the franchise but at this point in time, his old school mentality and stubbornness just isn't the formula needed for winning. If anyone should play an advisor role, I would love to see Jerry West and/or Magic in those roles. I think Magic holds great value for potential free agents who would consider the Laker franchise. Maybe even Kobe.

Jeanie is not going to fire her brother. LOL. This is all wishful thinking.

And what is wrong with the triangle? It won many championships for the Bull's and Lakers with Phil as the coach.

The youngsters that are with the Lakers now looked lost most of the time. There is no system what so ever.

Axle wrote:
Jeanie is not going to fire her brother. LOL. This is all wishful thinking.

And what is wrong with the triangle? It won many championships for the Bull's and Lakers with Phil as the coach.

The youngsters that are with the Lakers now looked lost most of the time. There is no system what so ever.

It looks awful the way it's being ran in New York. At this point in time, that system is outdated. It also helps when you have 4 of the top 20 players of all time helping you get to those championships by running your system. Hopefully Jeanie does fire Jim. Reports are that at season's end, that's what's going to happen.

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