What's the difference between Marc Gasol and LaMarcus Aldridge at this stage of their careers? I can't tell.
Should Lakers Go After LaMarcus Aldridge
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userpete1037 wrote:
What's the difference between Marc Gasol and LaMarcus Aldridge at this stage of
their careers? I can't tell. ![]()
Have no watched many spurs games. But Aldridge has always been a smooth shooter for a big. I also think he's a bit quicker than gasol at this point. I'd prefer him over drummond based on his ability to provide some spacing.
jc89 wrote:
Have no watched many spurs games. But Aldridge has always been a smooth shooter for a
big. I also think he's a bit quicker than gasol at this point. I'd prefer him over
drummond based on his ability to provide some spacing. ![]()
I love ya User, but Aldridge can at least put up some numbers. He has been sitting for the Spurs recently, but look at the last few games he has actually played. I see much more productivity out of him than I do from Gasol. With that said, I still would prefer to sign Drummond and trade for a sharp shooter. I am not sure how Aldridge would fit with this team. Maybe for a super cheap 10-day contract and try him out? I don't know....
Angeluus wrote:
I love ya User, but Aldridge can at least put up some numbers. He has been sitting for
the Spurs recently, but look at the last few games he has actually played. I see much
more productivity out of him than I do from Gasol. With that said, I still would
prefer to sign Drummond and trade for a sharp shooter. I am not sure how Aldridge
would fit with this team. Maybe for a super cheap 10-day contract and try him out? I
don't know.... ![]()
Lol!!!....Hey Aldridge couldn't hurt as long as we can get him for pennies on the dollar. But these days it seems the Nets are the darling of the town and it seems everybody wants to get on that train. We shall see.
LaMarcus Aldridge at this point of his career is a weak-sauce version of AD, but still pretty capable. He shoots well from deep for a big, and Lebron will give him open looks from there and even some alley oops.
He'll likely be traded. Still has value. Don't see them cutting him lose for nothing. Shall see. Drummon dis the younger option. More $$ too of course. I guess. We need Drum and a shooter.
This guys has a few suggestion. DeRozen? Porzingis? https://fadeawayworld.net/2021/03/09/how-the-los-angeles-lakers-can-strike-back-5-best-targets-right-now/ All the trades seem to center around us losing Caruso and Horton hears a who. I doubt Mitch is ready to give up on those 2. He's looking for buyout material. Or more favorable trades imo...
On the funny side, Springer is funny as sh1t today lol...
I read a good article on an insiders trade proposal for Wayne Ellington. The trade would send Matthews and a few draft picks there way. We could use him although I am sure they would need something to spice up the deal.
https://heavy.com/sports/los-angeles-lakers/trade-rumors-proposals-pistons-wayne-ellington/
As for as for Aldridge, here is what I read that some trade packages could look like considering the Spurs are not going to buy him out if they know we are interested. ****....
Trade Package No. 1: Dennis Schroder, Montrezl Harrell, 2027 first-round pick
Trade Package No. 2: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Wesley Matthews, Kyle Kuzma, Alex Caruso
Trade Package No. 3: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Montrezl Harrell, Wesley Matthews
I still feel we need a guy like Drummond or just try to get Mcgee back. A guy who knows the system and runs the court hard, along with blocking shots. Man same time last year, we had a surplus of big men. Smh.
Too much to give up for Aldridge imo. And why would we give up the only real PG we have had in years? lol
What about Marvin Bagley III? Rumor has him wanting out of Sac Town. We get younger. Trade Kuzma and Gasol for Bagley and Heild? (Or Barnes if we add Mathews?). Then we can still grab McGee, Drummond or Cousins.
i don't think we need Aldridge. trading him will come with a price esp with Coach Pop being the decision maker. what we need is a big man who is a legit lob threat,enforcer. just like Dwight but we let him go. i felt our championship team with Schroder minus Rondo & DG would have been a 1st seed in the west still.
Shepherd wrote:
What about Marvin Bagley III? Rumor has him wanting out of Sac Town. We get younger.
Trade Kuzma and Gasol for Bagley and Heild? (Or Barnes if we add Mathews?). Then we
can still grab McGee, Drummond or Cousins. ![]()
Held at 24m, Bagley at 8m. Lakers hard capped, would have to send out 32m or more.
Damn...Lakers payroll...Anyone else think they gave Dennis and KCP too much $? At least Dennis is expiring (1 year deal).
LBJ $39m
AD $33m
Dennis $16m
KCP $12m
Harrell $9m
After that it falls considerably to $3m or less.Those 5 players are getting $109m! Wtf?! Btw the Clips are further over the cap than we are. If it's any consolation.
FWIW, we have the 6th highest payroll atm. And we are WAY behind the other 5. So why can't we go higher? And they can? GSW are at $173m! Nets are at $164m! We're at $135m. In other words the other top 5 payrolls are trying to win by outspending us! And it's working btw!
https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/lists/nba-team-payrolls-salaries-2020-21-knicks-to-warriors/
Drummond is making $28+ mill this season btw. How the heck would we be able to get him? A team isn't going to buy out a player making that much. And I'm sure Drummond is tradable, other than his high salary. I say we move on from the Drummond/Aldridge sweepstakes. Not gonna happen. Let's not get blindsided as so many times in the past. Let's move on to who we can realistically get, now. Which is...who? We don't have many assets of any value. Dennis would be the main one with his $16mill 1 year expiring. But can he be traded? Other than him or Trez at $9mill, no one else has much trade value. Or has enough to get a better player in return. Even if we packaged a bunch of our $3mill guys, then what? Trading 5 for 1 isn't going to help us, with no bench left. We're boxed into a corner again, as in so many years past. As other teams seem to have better dealmakers/money/cap guys than we do.
We just have to pray to the basketball Gods that something works out.....lol. I'd love to win the chip every year but that's just not possible.
Shepherd wrote:
Drummond is making $28+ mill this season btw. How the heck would we be able to get him?
A team isn't going to buy out a player making that much. And I'm sure Drummond is
tradable, other than his high salary. I say we move on from the Drummond/Aldridge
sweepstakes. Not gonna happen. Let's not get blindsided as so many times in the
past. Let's move on to who we can realistically get, now. Which is...who? We don't
have many assets of any value. Dennis would be the main one with his $16mill 1 year
expiring. But can he be traded? Other than him or Trez at $9mill, no one else has much
trade value. Or has enough to get a better player in return. Even if we packaged a
bunch of our $3mill guys, then what? Trading 5 for 1 isn't going to help us, with no
bench left. We're boxed into a corner again, as in so many years past. As other teams
seem to have better dealmakers/money/cap guys than we do. ![]()
Pistons gave Blake a buyout and it was more than Drummond.
Lakers trying to resign Dennis, and Trez can't be traded unless he agrees to it.
Blake had no substantive trade value. Nothing like $30mill worth for sure. I'm sure they tried.
Drummond still has value. Not sure it's $28mill worth, but he is tradable. Same with Aldridge.
Shepherd wrote:
Blake had no substantive trade value. Nothing like $30mill worth for sure. I'm sure
they tried.
Drummond still has value. Not sure it's $28mill worth, but he is tradable. Same with
Aldridge.
Drummond has value, but he's in the last year of his contract, teams ain't giving up a lot for a rental for half a season. And that 28m is going to be hard to match without Cavs taking back a bad contract .
kkennon1 wrote:
Drummond has value, but he's in the last year of his contract, teams ain't giving up a
lot for a rental for half a season. And that 28m is going to be hard to match without
Cavs taking back a bad contract . ![]()
Which we don't have. Unless you consider KCP (who's playing bad) or Dennis. Or Mathews (how many times have I said LA is where good shooters go to die). They're bad contracts in that the players are sucking eggs atm. But they're not of the infamously bad variety.
Better set our sights on McGee or Howard if they get bought out or waived. Or Lopez. That's probably the best we can do for a big. We have a few guys we can trade for a shooter, but we did that already and it didn't work. If we trade away Mathews and Caruso and whoever, to get a guy who comes here then can't shoot, as is usually the case (see above comment on good shooters coming to LA to die), then it's a wasted effort. I wish it would work, but I'm dubious.
The Spurs can keep their Aldridge. But they always want to ship garbage to the Lakers after their players are worn out. The thing is they always want young players like THT and Kuzma who is just starting to blossom. I say screw the Spurs and they can keep their Aldridge who never has wanted to play for the hated Lakers. He has had many offers from the Lakers before with big money behind the offers and he always turned us down. So I say forget on Aldridge. We do not want Spurs garbage.
Lakers need to go after Drummond and a good three point shooter.
Shepherd wrote:
Which we don't have. Unless you consider KCP (who's playing bad) or Dennis. Or
Mathews (how many times have I said LA is where good shooters go to die). They're bad
contracts in that the players are sucking eggs atm. But they're not of the
infamously bad variety.
Better set our sights on McGee or Howard if they get bought out or waived. Or Lopez. That's
probably the best we can do for a big. We have a few guys we can trade for a shooter, but
we did that already and it didn't work. If we trade away Mathews and Caruso and
whoever, to get a guy who comes here then can't shoot, as is usually the case (see
above comment on good shooters coming to LA to die), then it's a wasted effort. I wish
it would work, but I'm dubious.
Doubt Howard gets buyout, and McGee has to get traded to another team 1st , than get buyout before he could return to lakers.
So no good options for us really. Given we don't even know if Drummond will get bought out.
Looks like the status quo for us. All the buyout options what were in consideration are now being changed to "trade bate" once the teams understood the interest level. All, aside from Griffin who the Nets grabbed. Lucky them. I hope all those superstars on one team blows up in their faces like it did that one year in Denver with Anthony and Iverson. Yes, I am a vindictive person.
Angeluus wrote:
Looks like the status quo for us. All the buyout options what were in consideration
are now being changed to "trade bate" once the teams understood the
interest level. All, aside from Griffin who the Nets grabbed. Lucky them. I hope all
those superstars on one team blows up in their faces like it did that one year in
Denver with Anthony and Iverson. Yes, I am a vindictive person. ![]()
LOL no, you're a Laker fan. What I'd like to understand is, why no one tries to interfere with the Nets stocking up, or anyone else really, other than us. Lakers let it be known they have eyes on a player and other teams do everything they can to keep that player off of our roster. But not with anyone else. No the Clips, Not Philly, not the Nets, etc. You have to know that if Drummond gets bought out, 10 teams who don't need him will make a play anyways just to keep him from our team. Laker hate is alive and well in the NBA. Even the commish had it (previously). Now that, my friend, is vindictive.
Read three different articles now that specify that AD will be out 3+ more weeks, if not more... Status unknown....
I'm preparing for him not returning at all. Those calf strains can be a Mutha sometimes.
I just read he will miss ten more days before he comes back. AD has a history of being injury prone, hope it does not become a habit. That sure hurts the whole team because they have to pick up the slack and it is hard especially with KCP, Matthews and Caruso not helping lately. Caruso seems like he is always bumping his head. KCP after he got a raise forgot how to shoot, Matthews just sux period and they need to get rid of him and replace his time with McKinnie. I just can not figure why Vogel keeps playing Matthews when he has some other players on the bench just waiting for a break to play.
userpete1037 wrote:
I'm preparing for him not returning at all. Those calf strains can be a Mutha
sometimes. ![]()
Not to mention the achilles aspect. Come back too soon and rupture that and good bye AD. Ask Boogie about that one. Imo they're holding out for a Drummond buy out. But in reality what that likely means is, another team will trade for him just to keep him from coming here. Maybe even the Clippers. That's a guarantee. Someone will cok block that deal. You watch.
We've backed ourselves into a corner again. No real tradable assets other than our stars. Hard capped. Nowhere to go. Other teams will get together to find a way to stop us from improving when they see we're on the ropes. We've all seen this sketch before. Meanwhile teams like the Nets are not cok blocked for some reason, and are allowed to do what the NBA says teams aren't supposed to do anymore. Buying a super team. Remember us and the CP3 deal that fell through? How is the Nets acquiring everyone not nailed down is ok 'for basketball reasons'? And going way over the Cap, along with GSW. They're payroll is $45mill more than ours. That's not a small difference. But that's ok? This is what drives me nuts about this NBA and why I don't watch it much anymore. That and the fact almost 50% of all shots taken are 3 pointers now. And is expected to keep increasing. The post game is all but gone. Why doesn't Carlisle post up Porzingis? He says coz it's a low % game now. Outside shooting is what it is. That's the money shot. So every team looks the same. Same O plan. Drive and kick, drive and kick, all game long.
Axle wrote:
I just read he will miss ten more days before he comes back. AD has a history of being
injury prone, hope it does not become a habit. That sure hurts the whole team because
they have to pick up the slack and it is hard especially with KCP, Matthews and Caruso
not helping lately. Caruso seems like he is always bumping his head. KCP after he got
a raise forgot how to shoot, Matthews just sux period and they need to get rid of him
and replace his time with McKinnie. I just can not figure why Vogel keeps playing
Matthews when he has some other players on the bench just waiting for a break to play. ![]()
I agree 1000%. LA is where shooters (who shot very well elsewhere btw) come to die. Regardless of who's coaching. Has been for the last 15 years or so (other than Kobe), will always be. However, Vogel is doing what all coaches do. Play the guys making the money. I'm sure FO's tell them to do so. But yes I wish he'd give the rooks some time. It worked out well in the pre-season. But it may not be his call.
Shepherd wrote:
Not to mention the achilles aspect. Come back too soon and rupture that and good bye
AD. Ask Boogie about that one. Imo they're holding out for a Drummond buy out. But in
reality what that likely means is, another team will trade for him just to keep him
from coming here. Maybe even the Clippers. That's a guarantee. Someone will ****
block that deal. You watch.
We've backed ourselves into a corner again. No real tradable assets other than our stars.
Hard capped. Nowhere to go. Other teams will get together to find a way to stop us from
improving when they see we're on the ropes. We've all seen this sketch before.
Meanwhile teams like the Nets are not **** blocked for some reason, and are allowed
to do what the NBA says teams aren't supposed to do anymore. Buying a super team.
Remember us and the CP3 deal that fell through? How is the Nets acquiring everyone
not nailed down is ok 'for basketball reasons'? And going way over the Cap, along
with GSW. They're payroll is $45mill more than ours. That's not a small difference.
But that's ok? This is what drives me nuts about this NBA and why I don't watch it much
anymore. That and the fact almost 50% of all shots taken are 3 pointers now. And is
expected to keep increasing. The post game is all but gone. Why doesn't Carlisle
post up Porzingis? He says cause it's a low % game now. Outside shooting is what it is.
That's the money shot. So every team looks the same. Same O plan. Drive and kick,
drive and kick, all game long.
I don't think Porzingis really desires to post up. That's just the makeup of the big man now. Remember back when Avery Johnson was coaching the Mavs and he had Dirk posting up more and was one of his best seasons. Then Dirk's coach from Germany said he wasn't meant to post up and that Avey was messing up his game. Now that was back then so you know in today's game its really a no go. Now the mid range game according to experts these days is not a good shot but I guess they don't factor in the post season because that shot is a killer if you can make it.
People just have to remember that when it comes to the Lakers, no one is trying to help us out. The HATE is REAL.
userpete1037 wrote:
I don't think Porzingis really desires to post up. That's just the makeup of the big
man now. Remember back when Avery Johnson was coaching the Mavs and he had Dirk
posting up more and was one of his best seasons. Then Dirk's coach from Germany said
he wasn't meant to post up and that Avey was messing up his game. Now that was back then
so you know in today's game its really a no go. Now the mid range game according to
experts these days is not a good shot but I guess they don't factor in the post season
because that shot is a killer if you can make it. ![]()
Yes but Dirk was a stretch 4 really who could shoot lights out. I don't think Porzingis is that guy lol. Not many bigs can shoot like Dirk could. And Dirk was not known for bangin' under the hoop. So I agree he was not a post up guy. Point is a whole aspect of the game is being ignored. Soon the NBA will be like the All Star game on a nightly basis. Some pple have been lobbying for a 4 pt line for a while. Problem is (among many) that guys who can't shoot 40% from 3 will become less viable in the league. There used to be mixed skill sets. Where are the mid range guys now? Where are the cutters? Where's the variety in the offense? Hell for that matter where's the Triangle. I heard Rick interviewed and he said the Triangle is dead. It died with Tex. But at least teams had an identity and didn't all just do the same things all night long. Oh well. I guess I'm just getting old lol. Longing for the 'good old days' hahaha.
Now the Suns are considered the front runners to get Aldrige, if it comes up. How is that possible?
And yes Laker hate is very real in the league I agree, even by the league office itself. That has become abundantly clear in recent years and cannot be denied any longer
Shepherd wrote:
Now the Suns are considered the front runners to get Aldrige, if it comes up. How is
that possible?
And yes Laker hate is very real in the league I agree, even by the league office itself.
That has become abundantly clear in recent years and cannot be denied any longer
Spurs would deal him to the Suns for a 2056 2nd rounder. Lakers would need to give them DS, Kuz, Harrell, and KCP. I mean, that was a talked about trade discussion. **** them and **** that homeless looking Popobitch.
Angeluus wrote:
Spurs would deal him to the Suns for a 2056 2nd rounder. Lakers would need to give them
DS, Kuz, Harrell, and KCP. I mean, that was a talked about trade discussion. ****
them and **** that homeless looking Popobitch. ![]()
You know that's true about the trade scenario!
Homeless Pop lmao! Like it.
