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Interesting article however I stopped reading when the author suggested that they should promote Kupchak...lmao!!!

MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
Interesting article however I stopped reading when the author suggested that they should promote Kupchak...lmao!!!

Mitch is just a puppet, I'm sure with West calling the shots, Mitch will look like the greatest GM ever. Lol

This is what i saw when we brought back Magic, hopefully this rumor is true and hopefully Jeanie can finally relive Mitch and Jim of their duties. Bringing back Jerry would open the door to promoting Ryan as GM, Magic (or Jerry if he's up for it) as President, and Jerry as Advisor, i also wouldn't be opposed to keeping Mitch as an advisor as well, in my eyes he's never been a terrible GM its just time for a new fresh mind to take his place.

On a side note, i must say i've been very impressed with Jeanie these last couple of months she's doing everything in her power to try to get us on the right path. Wether it's separating herself from Phil and all the NY drama, bringing back Magic (without Jim knowing), or seeking advice from greats like Kobe, she's starting to look like the owner her father was, the only question now is if she'll have the guts to fire her own brother. That will tell where her loyalty lies, hopefully she can go through with it and help steer this ship around.

Lol....Magic making moves?.......Only time will tell. This thread is about to explode with a the "isms".....lol.

userpete1037 wrote:
Lol....Magic making moves?.......Only time will tell. This thread is about to explode with a the "isms".....lol.

The only move I see him make is trying to sit on top of that tank with his wingman Byron. Lmao!!!

PS: I was going to say Magic and Kareem on top of the tank. But somehow it just doesn't feel right to picture the captain sitting on that tank...LOL!!!!

YES PLEASE!! Are The Lakers finally starting to figure it out? The late great Dr. Jerry Buss was smart (& humble) enough to realize that he needed smart NBA people around him. Most notably ex-Laker players like Jerry West, Pat Riley, Chick Hearn among many others. Let's hope that Jimmy's ego is finally being set aside (willingly or forcefully) for the sake and success of this once great franchise. #JerryWest&MagicJohnson #MakingTheLakersGreatAgain!!!!!

PurpleKnight wrote:
YES PLEASE!! Are The Lakers finally starting to figure it out? The late great Dr. Jerry Buss was smart (& humble) enough to realize that he needed smart NBA people around him. Most notably ex-Laker players like Jerry West, Pat Riley, Chick Hearn among many others. Let's hope that Jimmy's ego is finally being set aside (willingly or forcefully) for the sake and success of this once great franchise. #JerryWest&MagicJohnson #MakingTheLakersGreatAgain!!!!!

Lmao!!!!.....sound like Trump....lol.

I don't get it with some of you guys. You are as bad as the FO that can't move on from previous relationships.

Jerry WAS great but he isn't going to give the energy and dedication that the job deserves. It's time to move in a new direction with a new vision. If that involves him in a part time capacity sure bring it on but he is not going to be GM.

Tempy wrote:
I don't get it with some of you guys. You are as bad as the FO that can't move on from previous relationships.

Jerry WAS great but he isn't going to give the energy and dedication that the job deserves. It's time to move in a new direction with a new vision. If that involves him in a part time capacity sure bring it on but he is not going to be GM.

I don't see anyone suggesting that he become the GM. All that I'm saying in particular is that The Lakers need guys like Magic & West around the organization advising. Dr. Jerry Buss was smart enough to surround himself with guys like that from the moment he became owner. And that worked out great. And it couldn't hurt now.

PurpleKnight wrote:
I don't see anyone suggesting that he become the GM. All that I'm saying in particular is that The Lakers need guys like Magic & West around the organization advising. Dr. Jerry Buss was smart enough to surround himself with guys like that from the moment he became owner. And that worked out great. And it couldn't hurt now.

In what way is magic a good advisor? Oh you mean because he has great insight like this?

https://mobile.twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/727143501054373888

Come on now.

Tempy wrote:
In what way is magic a good advisor? Oh you mean because he has great insight like this?

https://mobile.twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/727143501054373888

Come on now.

Magic has cred with current NBA players. A whole lot more than Jimmy & Kupcake

PurpleKnight wrote:
Magic has cred with current NBA players. A whole lot more than Jimmy & Kupcake

If we're talking about role players, sure he may have an influence. But with the new collective bargaining agreement, stars have no incentive to move. With or without Magic, those guys aren't coming here. They have absolutely zero financial incentive to. I'm not huge on the Magic hiring. Don't love it, don't hate it. Where I think he can be of use is with mentoring the younger players. I think he can be a big influence there, especially for Russell and Ingram. Because they need those young players to be really good. If they aren't, then they are in big trouble. But in terms of free agency, I just don't see him mattering much on that front. I think people overestimate how much influence he will have. In the end, the dollar talks.

Did it ever occur to you that NBA superstar players can play anywhere, for anyone and they can play for people they believe in and like. They have that luxury.

PJax -- in his prime --was one of those people. West, Magic, even Cuban are alpha charismatic, charming people who can sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. Jim Buss has those crazy hermit genes and could not sell you a hundred dollar bill for a fifty.

Yes, he is a Master Inheritor -- but from everything else we have seen over five years he is a LOSER.

Magic comes here as a WINNER and free agents will actually listen to him. A billionaire who dresses like a slob with a mullet and a ball cap should not represent any organization other than a Sears type operation.

Yeah, that's the ticket. Trade him to Sears so they can have an excuse why they are going out of business!

As to Magic, he will turn it around faster than you would think! (Unless Jim sticks around.)

BaadMaster wrote:
Did it ever occur to you that NBA superstar players can play anywhere, for anyone and they can play for people they believe in and like. They have that luxury. PJax -- in his prime --was one of those people. West, Magic, even Cuban are alpha charismatic, charming people who can sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. Jim Buss has those crazy hermit genes and could not sell you a hundred dollar bill for a fifty. Yes, he is a Master Inheritor -- but from everything else we have seen over five years he is a LOSER. Magic comes here as a WINNER and....

IhatetheCeltics wrote:
If we're talking about role players, sure he may have an influence. But with the new collective bargaining agreement, stars have no incentive to move. With or without Magic, those guys aren't coming here. They have absolutely zero financial incentive to. I'm not huge on the Magic hiring. Don't love it, don't hate it. Where I think he can be of use is with mentoring the younger players. I think he can be a big influence there, especially for Russell and Ingram. Because they need those young players to be really good. If they aren't, then they are in big trouble. But in terms of free agency, I just don't see him mattering much on that front. I think people overestimate how much influence he will have. In the end, the dollar talks.

No doubt "the dollar talks". I hear you. There's no debating that. All that I'm saying is that you got to surround yourself with winners just like Dr. Jerry Buss did from day one when he became our owner. And that is what Golden State even did recently, they put smart basketball people in their front office including Jerry West. So quit being overly negative on these hirings. It's not just about free agency even though Magic & West would be influential in that arena also. At least think about the day to day operations and decision making that needs to be made. We want people who love The Lakers and have a better grasp on the team & league than Jimmy ever will. Last thing I'll say here is this isn't a cure all, I agree but it's definitely a nice step in the right direction. It definitely sends a message that we are serious about getting it right.

TERRY-TEAGLE wrote:

ROTFL!!!!....you stay coming with them....lol.

kkennon1 wrote:
Thought people were a little hard on Mitch, but reading this: No people weren't!!!!

https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/829367063424622592

Set him up Magic, before you crush him. Lol

https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/829362998904893441

That's the fking Neanderthal who has been messing up big time through his antiquated methods. It was quite easy to see through this facade, as it had become a pattern since time immemorial.

PurpleKnight wrote:
Magic has cred with current NBA players. A whole lot more than Jimmy & Kupcake

Credibility for what? Being a great player and having a charismatic personality. That's it.

There is no guarantee he is going to fare any better (or any worse) than what's been happening each summer.

BaadMaster wrote:
Did it ever occur to you that NBA superstar players can play anywhere, for anyone and they can play for people they believe in and like. They have that luxury. PJax -- in his prime --was one of those people. West, Magic, even Cuban are alpha charismatic, charming people who can sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. Jim Buss has those crazy hermit genes and could not sell you a hundred dollar bill for a fifty. Yes, he is a Master Inheritor -- but from everything else we have seen over five years he is a LOSER. Magic comes here as a WINNER and....

PurpleKnight wrote:
No doubt "the dollar talks". I hear you. There's no debating that. All that I'm saying is that you got to surround yourself with winners just like Dr. Jerry Buss did from day one when he became our owner. And that is what Golden State even did recently, they put smart basketball people in their front office including Jerry West. So quit being overly negative on these hirings. It's not just about free agency even though Magic & West would be influential in that arena also. At least think about the day to day operations and decision making that needs to be made. We want people who love The Lakers and have a better grasp on the team & league than Jimmy ever will. Last thing I'll say here is this isn't a cure all, I agree but it's definitely a nice step in the right direction. It definitely sends a message that we are serious about getting it right.

Not being overly negative about his hire, but what has magic done in the world of basketball other than being a great player? Want to talk about his influential coaching stint for the Lakers?

Actually hiring someone with a proven track record of FO work would be a step in the right direction, this is more of a celebrity stunt than anything.

Repped (+1)

Tempy wrote:
Not being overly negative about his hire, but what has magic done in the world of basketball other than being a great player? Want to talk about his influential coaching stint for the Lakers?

Actually hiring someone with a proven track record of FO work would be a step in the right direction, this is more of a celebrity stunt than anything.

Absolutely with you on that. As I've also said for some time, this was a stunt for PR to try and help salvage face with the fans. It's like bringing back Jesus. Or so they thought. Most likely they asked the Captain and after the statue snub he said screw you. Very few pple on here (tho we don't always agree you and I) are willing to step back and see the bigger picture and consider all possibilities for why things happen. You are one. And for that courage you sir are REPPED! This is nothing but hero worship LA style. Like continually brining back Arnold for the terminator roles even tho he's just shy of 100. Or Sly for another boxing movie. When someone is done just let them be done plsssss....lol

Side note...Glitch's teeth are getting so bad he really needs to go lol. Did he lose his dentist's phone number or what? No excuse for a public figure who's mega rich to let that happen, or to wear a ball cap and mullet. Who are these buffoons? I thought LA was supposed to be mega cool and hip and have all the talent? Where are they? We need some in the FO. But this is what we get. Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb...

kkennon1 wrote:
Thought people were a little hard on Mitch, but reading this: No people weren't!!!!

https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/829367063424622592

Set him up Magic, before you crush him. Lol

https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/829362998904893441

Thanks for that. I take is as an endorsement (finally) for the last few years I've been deriding Glitch and tell you guys he sucks and needs to go lol. He just cannot adjust to the fact the Lakers are just not THE destination anymore. Sometimes it really IS too late to teach old dogs new tricks. Ie: Vitti. Glitch is done as a GM. Time to hang up the phone and ride off into the Mexican Riviera Sunset. We'll be so much better off for it. As long as Jeannie doesn't hire a cousin or some crap to fill the spot. Too much nepotism here.

Tempy wrote:
Credibility for what? Being a great player and having a charismatic personality. That's it.

There is no guarantee he is going to fare any better (or any worse) than what's been happening each summer.

While I think Magic can help, I agree with you Tempy, has Jordan or Larry Legend gotten top FA's to come to their teams. Top FA'S are going to go where they can win Chips or stay with current team to get Paid.

kkennon1 wrote:
While I think Magic can help, I agree with you Tempy, has Jordan or Larry Legend gotten top FA's to come to their teams. Top FA'S are going to go where they can win Chips or stay with current team to get Paid.

That's a pretty good example actually. I've never heard anyone say they are going to Charlotte or going to stay in Charlotte because Jordan is going to make them better. Yet with every player that comes to laker land, oh Magic will help them develop (Russell), oh Kareem will help him develop (D12). It just doesn't work like that.

MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
Like i mentioned earlier this is Magic's role: Defender of the...Tank.

https://twitter.com/kp_rivals/status/829888875854127104

Yeah he not looking so good tonight.

userpete1037 wrote:
Yeah he not looking so good tonight.

Think you spoke to soon, looking good at the end. Lol

userpete1037 wrote:
Yeah he not looking so good tonight.

I spoke too soon MAGIC, lol. He showed up.

userpete1037 wrote:
I spoke too soon MAGIC, lol. He showed up.

It happens all the time to all of us...lol. Just take a look at some laker game day threads..lmao!!!

Now hope this will increase the intensity of the tank. The new Laker advisor needs to make sure they install a twin turbo V8 on the tank.

I'd trade that tank for a submarine about now! lol. All Jeannie has to say in a big meeting with everyone is say, anyone with bad teeth or bad hair...you're outta here!

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kkennon1 wrote:
While I think Magic can help, I agree with you Tempy, has Jordan or Larry Legend gotten top FA's to come to their teams. Top FA'S are going to go where they can win Chips or stay with current team to get Paid.

Jordan and Larry Legend are at least fielding respectable teams. Our FO has taken NBA Champs and turned them into NBA Chumps in a couple of years. We became Philly. Without the draft picks!

No, maybe you do not have to play in L.A. or NYC to become huge offcourt since the advent of social media. But still, a GM with bad, yellow teeth and an owner in what appears to be Wallmart clothes, a mullet and a ballcap are not impressive.

It was also said on this trail that "the great" Marc Cuban has not been successful in the FA market. Maybe if he were representing Hollywood and not Dallas he would have signed a big name. Of course, when a free agent WANTS to come here -- Isiah Thomas -- Jim signs Vodka Man instead. It is one thing to look like an idiot. It is quite another thing to BE an idiot!

And getta load of this: "Jim Buss Excited To Work With Magic Johnson For Years To Come." It aint over til it's over!

BaadMaster wrote:
Jordan and Larry Legend are at least fielding respectable teams. Our FO has taken NBA Champs and turned them into NBA Chumps in a couple of years. We became Philly. Without the draft picks! No, maybe you do not have to play in L.A. or NYC to become huge offcourt since the advent of social media. But still, a GM with bad, yellow teeth and an owner in what appears to be Wallmart clothes, a mullet and a ballcap are not impressive. It was also said on this trail that "the great" Marc Cuban has not been successful in the....

steven18 wrote:

Magic calling the shots? lmao. You don't bring in somebody who hasn't been immersed on the managerial side to call the shots. Is it amateur hour for Jeanie Buss? Really hope that's not true.

IhatetheCeltics wrote:
Magic calling the shots? lmao. You don't bring in somebody who hasn't been immersed on the managerial side to call the shots. Is it amateur hour for Jeanie Buss? Really hope that's not true.

Yup...load up the FO with the next gen of pple who don't know what they're doing. All ex Lakers of course. It's all just too incestual for my taste. It's really starting to creep me out man...

Sure Magic has built up an impressive list of low end condo developments, laundromats and fast food restaurants (and military mess hall slop). Each one simply trading on his name. He's still not what I would call a mega tycoon. He's just buying and selling franchise stores etc. And what does any of those things have to do with B-ball decisions?

BaadMaster wrote:
Jordan and Larry Legend are at least fielding respectable teams. Our FO has taken NBA Champs and turned them into NBA Chumps in a couple of years. We became Philly. Without the draft picks!

No, maybe you do not have to play in L.A. or NYC to become huge offcourt since the advent of social media. But still, a GM with bad, yellow teeth and an owner in what appears to be Wallmart clothes, a mullet and a ballcap are not impressive.

It was also said on this trail that "the great" Marc Cuban has not been successful in the FA market. Maybe if he were representing Hollywood and not Dallas he would have signed a big name. Of course, when a free agent WANTS to come here -- Isiah Thomas -- Jim signs Vodka Man instead. It is one thing to look like an idiot. It is quite another thing to BE an idiot!

And getta load of this: "Jim Buss Excited To Work With Magic Johnson For Years To Come." It ain't over til it's over!

That is what happens when you hold on to aging superstar riddled with injuries. You can't complain about how fast they went from champs to chumps if you wanted Kobe to retire a Laker. You got your farewell tour instead of a more immediate rebuild.

I don't exactly see the point in the criticisms of Jim or Mitch regarding teeth and hair etc, it's like saying you wouldn't buy an iPhone because Steve Jobs was bald and wore a turtle neck. Absurd.

You were the one who brought up Cuban and how much of a success he has been. Not us. Sure he may have been more successful representing Hollywood over Dallas but the Mavs still had a star to sell in Dirk and a state that has no state taxes. He also has a well respected coach in Carlisle.

Tempy wrote:
That is what happens when you hold on to aging superstar riddled with injuries. You can't complain about how fast they went from champs to chumps if you wanted Kobe to retire a Laker. You got your farewell tour instead of a more immediate rebuild. I don't exactly see the point in the criticisms of Jim or Mitch regarding teeth and hair etc, it's like saying you wouldn't buy an iPhone because Steve Jobs was bald and wore a turtle neck. Absurd. You were the one who brought up Cuban and how much of a success he has been. Not us. Sure....

^^^

Dam Shep....talk about being long winded....lol.

yeah, but I'm not wrong lol...am I? kickass Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_14 In the end I kind of think of these great era teams as being like the Beatles or Led Zeppelin or the Beach Boys. And there is some real relevant correlations there. The superstardom etc. They're special. In a way when you catch lightening in a bottle like that. When all the pieces come together and players exceed even perhaps their own expectations, in that context, at that time, but it can't last forever. Sometimes they collapse under their own ability to deal with pressure and fame; sometimes their managers rip them off (GM/FO) and they never get to where they could have been; sometimes they get hurt and that's that; sometimes they make mistakes and/or bad decisions; sometimes bad contracts play into it. It really takes some sort of near perfection on all levels for it all to work. If you have a great team (band) and your FO (management) stinks the magic won't happen. If you have all the good intentions and supportive FO etc but not enough talent, it won't work. By work I mean ultimately successful/mostly winning. Not just filling seats. Until the Lakers address their weaknesses they won't/can't succeed. The problem is the very weakness they have now esp, is the very pple who own/run the team. They'd literally have to fire themselves to solve the problem, and of course they won't. They're rich and they have visions of grandeur and big egos themselves. So imo, sadly, this team will not achieve what it could, even with some super talent coming in, with that one big flaw. Bringing in Melo and Rose to NY didn't solve their problems. Coz they're also deeper than that. It's a badly run team. No amount of talent can....

Shepherd wrote:
yeah, but I'm not wrong lol...am I? kickass Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_14

Lmao!!!!.......Facts.

Shepherd wrote:
Respectability is the point. They are public figures for a valuable and popular sports franchise. They're very face of it you might say. We don't expect GQ models, but it has gotten ridiculous now. It's a perfectly valid criticism. Seems there are many correlations within this team. As it's fortunes have sank so has the appearance of it's front men. At least have the good sense to brush your teeth man.

Ironic how you complain about Hollywood being fake and needs to change, its the same old, yet here you deriding them over their looks. Nothing more Hollywood than judging someone on appearance. The pot calling the kettle black gets a bit annoying to be honest.

You can't remain a contending team, and pay someone that kind of money and expect good results. Especially when such player tells prospective help I'm #1 and you are going to be #2. I said the right move would have been to do what the Celtics did, Kobe never had a chance at winning another ring with the Lakers, it would have been the best for both parties.

Why would I say to get rid of Dirk? He took $8 million a season for 2 years to try to keep the Mavs competitive. Compare that to Kobe's "discount" and they are completely different cases.

As for Kobe and it not being his fault? Really? So he didn't tell D'antoni not to sub him out because he is not coming out? He played those long minutes trying to prove he was still the best. That is why he got so badly injured.

As for the prejudice about Kobe. Yeah we are all wrong, The Shaq and Kobe fiasco never happened, D12 wasn't ran out of town. Lmao seriously, you are saying that's speculation?

kkennon1 wrote:
Now I could be wrong, but didn't Mitch just say a month ago Lakers weren't looking to trade anyone. Lmao

https://twitter.com/LakersSBN/status/830545302289539077

That Mitch I tell ya. I guess he feels threatened by Magic and wants to make a splash/band aid trade or something. Mitch please go softly into the night.

Tempy wrote:
Ironic how you complain about Hollywood being fake and needs to change, its the same old, yet here you deriding them over their looks. Nothing more Hollywood than judging someone on appearance. The pot calling the kettle black gets a bit annoying to be honest.

You can't remain a contending team, and pay someone that kind of money and expect good results. Especially when such player tells prospective help I'm #1 and you are going to be #2. I said the right move would have been to do what the Celtics did, Kobe never had a chance at winning another ring with the Lakers, it would have been the best for both parties.

Why would I say to get rid of Dirk? He took $8 million a season for 2 years to try to keep the Mavs competitive. Compare that to Kobe's "discount" and they are completely different cases.

As for Kobe and it not being his fault? Really? So he didn't tell D'antoni not to sub him out because he is not coming out? He played those long minutes trying to prove he was still the best. That is why he got so badly injured.

As for the prejudice about Kobe. Yeah we are all wrong, The Shaq and Kobe fiasco never happened, D12 wasn't ran out of town. Lmao seriously, you are saying that's speculation?

Lmao. Win or lose the circa 2016-17 lakers get screwed. Lol!!!

All this Hollywood bashing..lol. Who makes up Hollywood? Out of state transplants or long time Cali residents? It would be interesting to see the geographical breakdown index. Some of the native Cali celebrities I can think of are Leonardo Di Caprio/Gwen Stefani/Adam Lavine/George Lopez/Kevin Costner/Red hot chilli peppers/Fergie etc. Some of the more decent and grounded personalities if I dare say so myself. Then there are my favorite Snoop/Dre and ice cube..lol

Ps: Don't point out the Kardashians.....lolol.

userpete1037 wrote:
That Mitch I tell ya. I guess he feels threatened by Magic and wants to make a splash/band aid trade or something. Mitch please go softly into the night.

Yeah I'm hoping they don't try to do something drastic and desperate to hold on to their jobs.

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