Lakers Trade Rumors...

About time to bring this back I guess.

Here's a fun one...they sure need to do something...and getting rid of Deng would be a good start...

http://us.blastingnews.com/sports/2016/12/nba-trade-rumors-major-three-way-deal-between-lakers-wolves-and-kings-001308811.html

Man I don't know about that one. Gay is ISO extraordinaire but he'd be a vastly upgrade over Deng.

Not a credible source but i do like the idea, substituting Deng with Gay would make our offense much more explosive and it would allow us to keep the bench together while strengthening the starting unit.

A lineup with Gay does look very impressive

Russell / Clarkson / Calderon

Young / Lou

Gay / Ingram

Randle / Nance / Robinson

Mozgov / Black / Zubac

It's floating around a bunch of different sources. I just picked one. Not sure if any are credible. Maybe just wishful thinking as is so often the case. But figured it was time to bring back a trade thread, since the Cinderella period has worn off and they've come back to earth, and anyways we need help desperately at the 3 more than any other spot imo. And the idea makes sense to all involved. It's not some pie in the sky idea. So thought I'd use it to start the convo.

I agree the lineup is much stronger the way you show it. I also was hoping they'd nab Gay in the summer, rather than Deng. The rest is history. No one listens to me lol

I do that trade all day everyday

As much as i would like to get rid of Deng's terrible contract, i don't think the Lakers would trade him (at least for this season) it would send a bad message to future free agents should they consider coming here. If i'm not mistaken we could have up to 33 mil to spend next summer even with the contracts of Deng and Mozgov, we'll still have enough cap space to go after a top tier free agent, the guy i'd love for us to get is Hayward i think he'd be perfect for the system we have, if not him Gay may be available as well.

I wanted Harrison Barnes over any small forward and I felt a max contract would be a great gamble on a guy like that. I think people soured on him because of how he was utilized in GS. Before Kerr got there I saw how Barnes was starting to develop a nice midrange game but then when Jackson was replaced by Kerr he was shooting more 3's. I would have rather seen that guy in LA over Deng who is on his farewell tour.

Yup, but Glitch isn't as smart as you. So here we are lol. Gay is the only guy (outside of maybe Hayward offseason, but unlikely, lots of teams would want him and we don't fare well in competitive pursuits) who we could realistically get for an upgrade atm.

I disagree. The message is the right one. Get a big paycheck and come to play, or you're gone. Stops the contract abuse we keep encountering.

I think if Jimbo and Hitch want to be here next season, they have to do something now. If the Lakers go on a long decline from here on, which is quite possible, then the natives will get restless. The feel good start to the season turns to acid reflux, and heads are on spikes dripping blood downtown. At least, that's how it should be.

Isn't there a rumor with Thibs wanting Deng? Something like him for Pekovic and Shabazz... I'd prob be interested in that just for the contracts even if. It for the players, as I'm not sure they would be all that different or more useful for the Lakers.

Pekovic has robbed Wolves last few years since he signed new contract, he's never healthy. Shabazz would be good to have though.

yeah, not interested in Pekovic, but the rumor was he made the money match and he also only has 1 more year on his contract.

I did used to want Shabazz a couple years ago... would still take him, but he really hasn't panned out as well as I was predicting.

I think I would trade Deng, he just doesn't seem to contribute in any of the games I watched

Can only go so far trying to dump a contract. If the return is inadequate you have to live to fight another day I guess. We need help, and no use in trading one piece of dead weight for another. I think it works for our needs or we pass. Gay has value. Rubio has value. So it makes sense. Pekovic and Shabazz don't.

I'd given Barnes and Biyombo max deals but I don't even think they had us on their radar even if we offered it. I can deal with Mozgov getting what he got but I feel the same way about Deng that I felt when they traded for over the hill Nash.....just me.

Biyombo isn’t doing anything worth his contract in Orlando either.

Barnes would have been a good signing. But it's funny they didn't go after him, considering he played for Luke in GS. Maybe Luke knows something we don't.

Anyways he's stuck elsewhere now. So water under the bridge. We can hem and haw forever, until anyone relevant is gone. Or we can make some reasonable move(s). Barnes>Gay...sure. But Barnes isn't on the market. Gay is. And since Gay is an upgrade over anyone else we have at that position...dot dot dot

"ALL second tier players are gambles" -- Confuscious, 498 BC.

That's because he's in the wrong system. The up and down pace Luke is trying to mimic from GSW would've been perfect for a high energy guy like him and he's only 24 and Deng is 31, over the hill. Yeah I'd taken Biyombo all day everyday before Deng. That's if we had a shot at him.

Deng had a better game finally. Trying to play better for the Dec 15 trade date?

Read an article today discussing the different ways to deal with him if he doesn't work out. They can stretch him over 7 years, they can trade him, or they can hope for another amnesty clause in the new CBA being worked on for next season. One way or another he doesn't seem content in an LA uniform. And the rumors of him going to the Wolves for Shabazz and fillers seems to make sense. Only problem is likely we'll have to take Pekovic who's probably done for the year, and maybe for a career. Since he'd still take less money than Deng. Crazy way to save money, but it could happen. I'd rather take Hill back. Since they currently have 7 centers on that team lol, and he'd thrive in Walton's system imo. Fact is after Towns, Rubio, LaVine and Wiggins, they got nothin' very special. So Deng might be a good move for them.

I would have passed on both. Biyombo had a good playoff run last season, but did nothing before that to get contract he got. Another guy that played a little bit better in a contract year...imo

Only big that was worth his contract so far, has been Whiteside.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.hngn.com/amp/articles/221521/20161215/nba-trade-rumors-anthony-davis-heading-los-angeles-lakers-before.htm

Awesome Bull sh!t trade rumor, but Awesome if it true!!!

Hahaha...terrible english. yeah that's a reliable one lol

Deng would be the best option to move before the trade deadline. Tbh i hope he does end up in Minnesota so Larry Nance Jr can start at SF which allows Thomas Robinson more time at PF behind Randle. Robinson has to get more minutes because he can get rebounds to get the team more shots. I hope u guys don't think I'm crazy but we all know Nance can play either the 3, or 4 similar to Robert Horry so by getting rid of Deng would be a plus to Nance & Robinson.... Trade machine Lakers get Cousins, Wolves get Deng, Kings get Muhammad & Pekovic http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jlexefk

AD is definitely the guy I want. The question is what would we have to give?.....The farm.....lol.

And some!!! Lol

https://twitter.com/hoopsrumors/status/810632186206584832

This is one player I have always coveted...especially for defensive purposes. Lol.

Tony Allen? Ok he's worth going after. Tho of late he's been less consistent than the past, and more injured. Depends on the price tag I guess. Still a very good playa

I don't know if I'd trade for a 34 year old Tony Allen, unless we're able to get rid of Deng by doing so.

I read Ezeli might be done for the year and needs another knee surgery, dodged a bullet IMO. So many people wanted to throw $16 million at him on this forum.

^^^

ME!!!!!!!.....I was one of them along with Biyombo as well....lmao.

I also wanted him(and Biyombo). As if some wizard or modern day Nostradamus had forseen that injury. Lol. That's such an unpredictable and unfortunate thing which can happen to anyone.

I wasn't one of them. But yes glad we dodged that bullet. The trade schemes are fraught with unknowns. Any guy at any time can get messed up. Ya just never know. That said, this seasons is the most injury plagued season overall league wide I can remember in a while. Something needs to be addressed here. Training methods, or style of play adjustments, or better shoes, or I don't know what. Less starter minutes maybe. More rest days for everyone. I've read the league is thinking of extending the seasons a bit to get rid of the back to backs. These guys really do take a beating. And the higher the expectation of athleticism, the faster the game moves as a result of that type of player preference now, the more injuries will occur.

Trade Ingram and Clarkson while they still have value. Let's face it , Ingram cannot shoot. Despite of the many minutes he's playing on the floor, his shooting is awful. Being young and rookie is not a justification for his miserable 3 point and perimeter shooting, he really lacks this talent. Meanwhile Clarkson's development is regressing. I think this player will just be an ordinary so-so player without a star potential.

Trade them for who? If we know about those players limits, other teams do as well.

Trade Ingram!!!! Lol

Well Randle, Nance, and DLo are inconsistent shooters, should we trade them too??? Give the kid a chance. As far as star potential, not all these players will be stars, if anything we might get lucky and have 1 or 2 and DLo( if he stays healthy) and Ingram have the most upside. And like Shepherd said, trade them for who?? Other teams see it too.

To me the team is struggling due to having so many young players and so few mentor players. Most teams do not rebuild by taking on an entire (nearly) team of under 22-23 yo players. It ends up looking like a College team. Most keep vets and add youngsters to bring along and develop, ie: SA. But ours are all starters. Our bench is more vet oriented and it's outscoring our starters every night by a lot. So it's a different approach, which means we'll still suck for quite awhile until they develop. My worry is without players on the team to look up to and follow, they're kind of on their own. Learning by watching tape and from a first year rookie coach. It's an experiment, that may or may not work. It's not how I would have done it, But I don't run the team. I just wish I did, like all of us lol. It's a pity the team has been so bad at acquiring talent, it's a pity they're owned by the Busses. Nash was supposed to stick around and help our PG's instead he's elsewhere, having shanked the team when he played for us, he is also shanking us after the fact. A fine thank you very much for paying him a ton on money to not even be in town most of the time. Developing his gym franchise in Canada etc. MIA most of the time. What I think is they should get Kobe involved training players. Has he abandoned us as well? Or is the team ignoring the opportunity? It's a heck of a way to run a team like the Lakers. It wouldn't have surprised me in Minny, or other small market teams with nothing else to lose. But here, it's absurd. However....

He has played 170 games in 4 and a half years. I think Stevie Wonder could see he is a bit injury prone.

I think he just did. So when do we get to hear your next hit..??

Doing a mixtape with MC Kobe this week lol

Get Kanye in that and you have a Christmas mixtape to remember.

Lol I think Kanye has bigger things going on

LOL...He can throw in a few bars before his 2020 campaign....

I have not read one trade rumor worth consideration. So far Whiteside, A-D, George and Cousins are coming to the Lakers in exchange for the young core players none of which makes sense. Maybe Cousins for Julius and Clarkson but even that leaves LA reeling in the backcourt until Ingram steps up.....which he may never do.

The Lakers ought to be looking to Philadelphia, again, for trades. Though I am not a fan of Noel, he might bring some value. On the other hand, what if the Lakers managed to acquire Okafor, who has not shined so far, but remains an offensive threat that the Lakers need on the inside. Philly does not need Ivica in return and their forwards are in decent shape with Covington, Ilyasova and Saric, but Clarkson I think would become a star on that team alongside of Simmons when he returns.

Reverse the question and consider who are the most likely Lakers players who could be traded?

Nick of course but his value is quite high now surprisingly. Luke has stated that he wants to keep the core together, but the core is missing a critical piece at Center. Mozgov is OK and Black brings energy and Ivica could be incredible but he's not ready so it seems to me that the most expendable player is Jordan Clarkson. If the Lakers could get an awesome inside force on offense like Okafor, perhaps Julius is also expandable for a scoring PF whomever that might be.

Okafor sucks, he's terrible on defense and Sixers can't find anybody to take him off their hands.

Yes, he's terrible on defense but is still a 20/10 players in the right situation. The reason is no so much his defense but his off the court antics. He is not happy in Philly form Day 1 and he wanted to be in LA. Location location location makes all the difference. Trust me I recently moved to Atlanta and I despise the attitudes and politics here. It is hard to find motivation in a place where you are misfit and unhappy. If Okafor were to lose 20 pounds, his game would definitely turn around.

Guess we'll agree to disagree, don't want a center that gets you 20 a night and also give up 20 a night. Lol

Only player I want of the Sixers is Embiid, the best player on either team, Sixers and Lakers right now. But that trade is not going to happen. Damn it!!!!

Wouldn't Lou Williams actually be more trade-able and desirable over Clarkson, being cheaper, more reliable, and a shorter contract...

well I guess it depends on the other team, if it is a contender or a rebuilder.

what contenders need more bench scoring?

Losing Lou would hurt us a bunch, but he isn't part of long term plans anyway is he? He could probably continue to be the same player that he is for another few years though.