I'm not saying you are wrong, but empirically this is not the way to build a winning
culture. 
The best way to start a winning culture is to WIN the lottery. See? It's a win-win situation.
I'm not saying you are wrong, but empirically this is not the way to build a winning
culture. 
The best way to start a winning culture is to WIN the lottery. See? It's a win-win situation.
Although I hate to see the lakers losing, let alone cheer for them to lose, I live in Phoenix and don't want them to turn into the Suns never good enough to compete for a championship, and not bad enough to get a high enough draft pick to improve. So I'll cheer if they win, and smile when they lose. Roll tank!
So....You in??? lol
C'mon don't fight it now....lol
Plus it's represents our only hope...our last chance of fighting mediocrity. Those who dream of the lottery are the ones who are not content with mediocrity in the future.
Lose this battle...but win the war
^^^ Tell that to the Clippers, Cavs, Magic and Hornets. Historically these four teams have benefitted the most from the draft lottery. All of these teams have a long history of winning championships and retaining their key free agents. Oh wait, no they don't .
I find it kind of funny that I see some of the same people in support of this movement, that I've seen say things about other teams having bandwagoners and what not. When really, what you guys are doing here is nothing more than some form of bastardized bandwagon in disguise. Only instead of moving on to some other team's bandwagon when yours fizzles out. You just decide to stop supporting your team, cheer for them to lose so they can hopefully get a good draft position and maybe then become good enough for you to deem them worthy of your support, so you can jump back on the bandwagon.
It's all or nothing, right guys. It's championship or zero support, woooo.
I hope there aren't too many more Lakers fans out there with this attitude, and I hope the players in the league aren't seeing it. Because if I were a player, I sure as hell wouldn't want to play for a team with a bunch of fans that cheer for them to lose games.
No, i just have to head over to the El Segundo laker facility and tell that to the Lakers Top Brass....who had unfortunately drafted Magic and worthy among others..
It's all or nothing, right guys. It's championship or zero support, woooo.
I hope there aren't too many more Lakers fans out there with this attitude, and I hope
the players in the league aren't seeing it. Because if I were a player, I sure as hell
wouldn't want to play for a team with a bunch of fans that cheer for them to lose games. 
PREACH!
It's all or nothing, right guys. It's championship or zero support, woooo.
I hope there aren't too many more Lakers fans out there with this attitude, and I hope
the players in the league aren't seeing it. Because if I were a player, I sure as hell
wouldn't want to play for a team with a bunch of fans that cheer for them to lose games. 
wise basketball yoda:
LMBO! !!!! yaw cracking me up whew! Laker nation in conflict.
By the way, where the Heck Is the game day thread. ..it's MIA like Nash lol.
Boston is smart. Boston is young. Boston is bad. if they get rid of Rondo and rebuild from the draft. they're fersure projected top 4 based on record. I believe they will draft a stud and the future will b bright for em. #gotankers
It's all or nothing, right guys. It's championship or zero support, woooo.
I hope there aren't too many more Lakers fans out there with this attitude, and I hope
the players in the league aren't seeing it. Because if I were a player, I sure as hell
wouldn't want to play for a team with a bunch of fans that cheer for them to lose games. 
How does saying the team should tank mean i don't watch and don't follow the laker games and rumors etc. I support the lakers through thick and thin. The difference is i don't get dissapointed if we lose this season. we ARE NOT making the playoffs! #FACT.
Regardless of your view that means this season is a failure.
Because we can not make the playoffs what goal can this team achieve? The talent level is just not there on the current roster. So how can we make it better?
Trade. Sign Free Agents or draft. We can do all 3! Do you know how many teams have the options the lakers do right now? NONE! We should tank because the season is already a failure, we will sign free agents in the summer and we could possibly make a trade that helps the rebuild. We could reload in 1 season. 1 freaking season if losing the rest of the season means we can contend next season count me in.
Can anyone tell me what winning does for the teams rebuilding project because you all can surely see we NEED to rebuild.
It's all or nothing, right guys. It's championship or zero support, woooo.
I hope there aren't too many more Lakers fans out there with this attitude, and I hope
the players in the league aren't seeing it. Because if I were a player, I sure as hell
wouldn't want to play for a team with a bunch of fans that cheer for them to lose games. 
Are you a better fan in your own personal opinion? The fan that cheers for meaningless wins so the Lakers can dwell in mediocrity for years on end.
You are thinking with a linear mind. Fans are looking past this season, they're wanting their Laker franchise to thrive, to be great for years. How about you? You have a different philosophy when it comes to being a fan, you don't agree with fans who want the Lakers to get a great draft prospect.
In all actuality, let's flip it. You're the fan who doesn't make sense. You want us to lose the lottery. Why wouldn't you cheer for the Lakers to win? Most of us are rooting for the Lakers to win the lottery. If I was a player, I wouldn't want to play on a team full of short-sighted fans like yourself who wants the team to just be mediocre for years on end.
I would rather just watch the games, cheer for the guys as they play hard and let the wins and losses fall where they may. Not everyone who is against this tanking BS "want the lakers to win win win and make the playoffs even if they get knocked out in the first round" or even just want to win as many games as possible. The draft is not guaranteed, nothing is.
I just want them to play hard, if they win so be it, if they lose so be it. whatever record they end up with, it is what it is. I'm not going to just say "screw, just lose lose lose" just because we don't have a championship caliber team. Lakers fans are just spoiled. We can't win a championship, screw it, no need to support the team.
And no, cheering against the team every game so they can get a better position in the draft is NOT supporting them, IMHO. Just so you can push the resume button on your support when the team is better.
I just want them to play hard, if they win so be it, if they lose so be it. whatever record they end up with, it is what it is. I'm not going to just say "screw, just lose lose lose" just because we don't have a championship caliber team. Lakers fans are just spoiled. We can't win a championship, screw it, no need to support the team.
And no, cheering against the team every game so they can get a better position in the
draft is NOT supporting them, IMHO. Just so you can push the resume button on your
support when the team is better. 
That's fine but don't come off as if you're that much better of a fan. Like I said earlier, Lakers fans wanting a better draft position is supporting the team. No one wants them to lose because they dislike the Lakers. They want the future to be bright or at least have a chance at it being bright since Kobe is on his way out.
Fans are absolutely supporting the team, just not in the way you would like or in the way you support them.
By the way, where the Heck Is the game day thread. ..it's MIA like Nash lol. 
I was thinking the same thing.....lol.
BTW.....You in???? Team Tank could definitely use your valuable services..lol
Our Tank HQ Motto: " It's not what the tank can do for you, but what you could do for the tank" LOL
Game day threads will pick up once Kobe returns. I don't even have to tell you why.
You are thinking with a linear mind. Fans are looking past this season, they're wanting their Laker franchise to thrive, to be great for years. How about you? You have a different philosophy when it comes to being a fan, you don't agree with fans who want the Lakers to get a great draft prospect.
In all actuality, let's flip it. You're the fan who doesn't make sense. You want us to lose the lottery. Why wouldn't you cheer for the Lakers to win? Most of us are rooting for the Lakers to win the lottery. If I was a player, I wouldn't want to play on a team full of short-sighted fans like yourself who wants the team to just be mediocre for years on end.
I don't want to say that I think I'm a better fan, but honestly. If someone cheers against their own team every game, I have a hard time even acknowledging them as a fan of the team at all. If I'm being completely honest.
If you just want the team to lose lose lose so they can get a better position for the draft lottery. I would say you are a fan of your own need to have the team be what you think they should be. I don't see it as that much different then the people who latch onto bandwagons when a team is doing really well. I mean, you might as well just follow another team if you're going to cheer against your own.
I love the Lakers, I enjoy watching them play. I want them to play hard, I want them to develop some young talent and try to hang onto them. If they get a high draft pick, that would be awesome, of course. But I refuse to cheer against them, cheer for them to lose games, just so they can achieve it. And I don't understand or support that mentality.
I think I'll just go back to not posting again, though. Probably better for all involved, so this will be my last post on the issue. If I offended anyone over the last couple of days, I sincerely apologize.
Take it easy, and enjoy your Team Tank.
BTW.....You in???? Team Tank could definitely use your valuable services..lol
Our Tank HQ Motto: " It's not what the tank can do for you, but what you could do for
the tank" LOL 
LMAO @ what can you do for the tank! Count me in cause i will do ANYTHING to get Embiid. You better refocus the tank on swaggy cause he's going off!
Awesome! just add the title "Team Tank" to your signature and its official..lol
I'm re-caliberating some tanks in our warehouse. I will be back with some fresh ammo for swaggy....he's killing us that boiieeee
If you just want the team to lose lose lose so they can get a better position for the draft lottery. I would say you are a fan of your own need to have the team be what you think they should be. I don't see it as that much different then the people who latch onto bandwagons when a team is doing really well. I mean, you might as well just follow another team if you're going to cheer against your own.
I love the Lakers, I enjoy watching them play. I want them to play hard, I want them to develop some young talent and try to hang onto them. If they get a high draft pick, that would be awesome, of course. But I refuse to cheer against them, cheer for them to lose games, just so they can achieve it. And I don't understand or support that mentality.
I think I'll just go back to not posting again, though. Probably better for all involved, so this will be my last post on the issue. If I offended anyone over the last couple of days, I sincerely apologize.
Offended? Don't be silly. I don't get bent all out of shape because of differing opinions. We are supporting our Lakers. We support them because we want them to be a team that gets back towards the top. I want this team to be more like Richard Sherman, the best not like Michael Crabtree, mediocre at best.
We are all on the same team, we just have different opinions.
You assume we are celebrating the losing. We understand that, however longterm, we are winning.
To celebrate mediocrity and the stagnation that is associated with it would be more of an insult considering this team has ALWAYS been about maximizing Championship aspirations.
I strongly/and whole heartedly promote losses this year and ONLY this year in order to get us a valuable asset to once again begin our domination of the league.
http://www.sbnation.com/2014/1/16/5314870/lakers-tank-nba-draft-2014-lottery
Just see the article.. how the Lakers haters are starting to fear the tank....they want the tank to stall or get destroyed...lol
You know something's wrong when Spurs fan's at SPURSTALK are actually cheering for us and happy we won the boston and Raptors game.
Miami Heat fans ecstatic Lakers won:
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1298179&start=90
Dam how you guys change. I can remember before the year everyone was bashing my post on how we should tank. Now you guys are finally seeing what i saw before the year. This team was created to tank, No kobe, no Nash, no Howard and you guys were saying 7th, 8th seed team. Come on son.
Tanking couldn't have came at a better time. Get a young gun in the draft, pass on Melo and sign Kevin in 2015. That should be the lakers plan.
Tanking couldn't have came at a better time. Get a young gun in the draft, pass on Melo and sign
Kevin in 2015. That should be the lakers plan. 
So you in??? lol
^^^^LOL...I do remember you and a few fans calling this out CALIGUY23 and the flack you and others took for it. I wanted to see how the season played out, but didn't expect much, due to a weak roster and a weaker coach. I want us to win, but things need to be done different than just barely making the playoffs. Anyway....I decided to take my talents to....TEAM TANK.
And before a fan gets all uppity and tell me I don't support my team....please go kick rocks. I would rather this FO try something different and move ahead instead of barely making the playoffs and getting stuck. Some of you do realize that players don't want to get stuck on a team that is going nowhere, right? I don't care who you are. If the Lakers acquire players, through the draft, trades and free agency, we will be back to winning. Developing and picking a great to good young player when there is an opportunity makes more sense!
I've been on the tank train since July 5th when Howard took his talents to Houston. With role players(who now are injured may i say) and now D league players what do we expect?.
I'm also on the no to Melo train. Lakers don't need a shelf player.
And before a fan gets all uppity and tell me I don't support my team....please go kick
rocks. I would rather this FO try something different and move ahead instead of
barely making the playoffs and getting stuck. Some of you do realize that players
don't want to get stuck on a team that is going nowhere, right? I don't care who you
are. If the Lakers acquire players, through the draft, trades and free agency, we
will be back to winning. Developing and picking a great to good young player when
there is an opportunity makes more sense! 
I was hoping to see you join forces with Team Tank. Welcome aboard this ship...i mean tank lol. Proud Laker Lakerdudeinindy...is now the proud new member of "TEAM TANK". That makes it 7 strong tank mates and counting......
#golakers
#gotank
General Mike D putting Harris in instead of Wes was the turning point.
Tank is safe. Thank you Chicago.
So you in Khalid? Lol
And before a fan gets all uppity and tell me I don't support my team....please go kick
rocks. I would rather this FO try something different and move ahead instead of
barely making the playoffs and getting stuck. Some of you do realize that players
don't want to get stuck on a team that is going nowhere, right? I don't care who you
are. If the Lakers acquire players, through the draft, trades and free agency, we
will be back to winning. Developing and picking a great to good young player when
there is an opportunity makes more sense! 
LMAO @ taking my talents to team tank! This tank is out of control. FULL STEAM AHEAD!
We would be getting 9th now, am I right?
lol tank commander...
Just go to profile located on lakertopbuzz header and then see the signature box when you open profile.(it is on the top right).
After that just add Team Tank in the signature box and enter submit. That should take care of it. Let me know if that worked....
Bookmark this fellow Tank mates and anyone else who might be interested. http://www.tankathon.com/
@Achad92...you are right tank mate...we are at #9
We moved up 1 spot from #10 after the bulls loss.
Just go to profile located on lakertopbuzz header and then see the signature box when you open profile.(it is on the top right).
After that just add Team Tank in the signature box and enter submit. That should take care
of it. Let me know if that worked.... 
Chief petty officer zheck reporting for duty. Lol.
I was hoping to see you join forces with Team Tank. This Tank needs you..lol Welcome aboard this ship...i mean tank lol. Proud Laker Zheck13...is now the proud new member of "TEAM TANK". That makes it 8 strong tank mates and counting......
#golakers
#gotank
I posted this on the Lakers vs Bulls game day thread, but I thought I'd put it here since this is what it's all about.
I call it "LAK14 Embiid" For the Lakers 2014 #1 pick Joel Embiid!!