MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California Joined: 12/20/2011votes: 77
01/19/2014 - 09:14 PM
Take a moment to go to your profile and put the title "Team Tank" in your
sig.
I have already added "Team Tank" in my signature and proudly declare my
support. No more hiding or Rhetorics...no more!!!
Show your support and solidarity to this great laker cause.
Stand tall! Be proud! Join Team Tank!
Team Tank Needs You! No reason to feel guilty..you are doing this for a better Laker
future.
Reply to this post when you're done. It'll feel wonderful.
This has been a depressing/lack luster season for the lakers, therefore lets have fun
with this, while trying not to go overboard, or too serious..lol. And let's see if
this can be a growing "team tank" community.
Abaloz Laker GMPosts: 4151Location: Granada Hills, CA votes: 11
01/19/2014 - 09:19 PM
I wish Lakers nothin but the best. I love em!! Wud never ever hope for losses... and wen
i mean best for em...i mean get that damn top 5 pick baby..which means T.D.M.F(Tank
Dat Mutha Fkkkkka) #golakers #gotank il join
AChad92 Laker GMPosts: 4781votes: 13
01/19/2014 - 09:24 PM
I'll hop on this tankwagon.
MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California votes: 77
01/19/2014 - 09:25 PM
Welcome aboard proud laker Abalosmusic and proud new member of "Team
Tank"
That makes it 2 members for Team tank.
#gotank
#lakers
MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California votes: 77
01/19/2014 - 09:28 PM
Welcome aboard Proud laker AChad92 and proud new member of Team Tank.
That makes it 3 members...and counting.
#gotank
#Lakers
LITO_PHIL Serious Laker FanPosts: 201votes: 0
01/19/2014 - 10:23 PM
DEFINTELY... LAKERS TEAM TANK .... even GM Mitch does NOT agree ... with the blessing of the Best
TANK COACH D'Antoni !!!!
MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California votes: 77
01/19/2014 - 10:44 PM
LITO_PHIL wrote:
DEFINTELY... LAKERS TEAM TANK .... even GM Mitch does NOT agree ... with the
blessing of the Best TANK COACH D'Antoni !!!!
More tanking power
To become a member you need to add "Team Tank" to your signature...looking
forward to seeing you come aboard this ship...i mean tank...lol
MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California votes: 77
01/19/2014 - 11:05 PM
I don't understand why we are winning these meaningless/insignificant games. What
is even harder to understand are those fans that think this is a great
thing.
It definitely sucks to lose and it hurts big time, but it's better to lose it all this
season than have another 4 or 5 years of mediocrity.
These last two games have been one of the worst moments of the season....lol. When we won
early in the season, we at least had a chance to do something. Now its just making it
more unlikely that we get a franchise player.
MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California votes: 77
We are 7.5 gamer down from Dallas and have no chance to get in playoff position with all
our injuries. We need to trade Gasol now and I would trade Kaman as well. Start Kelly
and sacre because they both will be in LA next year. Get them some experience. By
doing that they will lose more games. We are close to getting the #3 spot for the draft
order. There are 5 to7 top players in college that will have a big benefit to the
lakers. Knowing our luck we will end up at 9 to 11 draft position that will do very
little to bring in a franchise player. I don't want to intentionally tank, but
management should do things that will provide the Lakers will as many draft picks
for the future. By trading Gasol and Kaman we can get value for them in draft picks and
improve our draft position in a big way. Nash needs to be shut down for the season and
have a medical retirement. I would hold Kobe out until mid to late march when he is
completely healthy and give him just enough time on the court to get ready for next
year. Kobe should be on a 30 minute limit.
Abaloz Laker GMPosts: 4151Location: Granada Hills, CA votes: 11
01/20/2014 - 01:40 AM
Don't know how many times i did a mock lottery/draft.. as of now Lakers are top10.. also i
replayed the lottetry numerous times and 9/10 says we wud pick 10th in the draft and
draft Lavine from UCLA LOL
MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California votes: 77
01/20/2014 - 01:59 AM
AbalosMusic wrote:
Don't know how many times i did a mock lottery/draft.. as of now Lakers are top10..
also i replayed the lottetry numerous times and 9/10 says we Wud pick 10th in the
draft and draft Lavine from UCLA LOL
Not looking good..smh. We were #5-6 before those two wins. Tank needs to start rolling
with vengeance! lol
MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California votes: 77
01/20/2014 - 08:38 AM
I am calling it right now...we are going to beat the bulls.........
This is going to stink....Smh.
We are losing sight of the objective:
Tidal_Wave Serious Laker FanPosts: 401Location: Lisbon, Portugal votes: 1
01/20/2014 - 10:09 AM
Best Offense VS Best Defense. today's game could decide the fate of the
tank.
if the players start believing it could damage the tank.
Tempy LNS HOF SilverPosts: 13422Location: El Pueblo de la Reina de Los Angeles votes: 52
As much as I would love for the Lakers to grab the #1 spot and draft Joel Embiid, I will not
be joining team tank. I understand the logic behind your arguments and am not
deluded enough to think we can make any serious runs at contention with our roster. I
am not opposed to trading away current assets for future considerations to build
the team. I draw the line at rooting for losses and accepting less than maximum
effort from the players on the court or working on their rehab.
One thing I know for sure, once you allow yourself to lose it gets easier to quit when
times are tough. Winning is a habit, born of a mentality which doesn't accept
failure. Winning organizations can't allow failure to fester and become part of
their culture. Losing organizations tend to stay that way for years regardless of
how many times they pick high in the draft. Their is a difference between losing and
being a loser. It's ok to lose to a better opponent as long as you go down
fighting,scratching and clawing with everything you've got. If that's your
mindset then you will improve and eventually become better than your
opponent.
I am calling it right now...we are going to beat the bulls.........
This is going to stink....Smh.
We are losing sight of the objective:
We may need Kobe to hurry and come back. That way Kendall can stop finding people for
shots. He can instead just walk over and toss it to the hand and he can go spot up with
that push shot somewhere.
As much as I would love for the Lakers to grab the #1 spot and draft Joel Embiid, I will
not be joining team tank. I understand the logic behind your arguments and am not
deluded enough to think we can make any serious runs at contention with our roster. I
am not opposed to trading away current assets for future considerations to build
the team. I draw the line at rooting for losses and accepting less than maximum
effort from the players on the court or working on their rehab.
One thing I know for sure, once you allow yourself to lose it gets easier to quit when
times are tough. Winning is a habit, born of a mentality which doesn't accept
failure. Winning organizations can't allow failure to fester and become part of
their culture. Losing organizations tend to stay that way for years regardless of
how many times they pick high in the draft. Their is a difference between losing and
being a loser. It's ok to lose to a better opponent as long as you go down
fighting,scratching and clawing with everything you've got. If that's your
mindset then you will improve and eventually become better than your opponent.
That was so beautifully put. I'm giving you a golf clap. It almost a brought a tear to my
eye. Please see 1997 NBA draft and see how that hurt the Spurs' winning
culture.
Here is quote from one of the greatest tank commanders who ever lived, Field Marshal
Erwin Rommel. It was almost like he could see this Lakers season from way back then
and knew the best path for us to take:
"Don't fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning."
mcbill Die-Hard Laker FanPosts: 1725votes: 16
01/20/2014 - 02:37 PM
Gem,
I remember watching the Spurs in 96/97. After losing Robinson and Elliot to injuries
their best player was an aging Dominique Wilkins(37 I believe). Even at 37 he led the
team in minutes played, along with the rest of their best players. Even though they
didn't have the horses to compete they came out every night trying. Even at that
point the spurs were a model of winning and consistency and were rewarded with the
top pick in a relatively weak draft even though they only had the third best odds.
There is a difference between tanking and just not being very good.
The problem is that these guys aren't trying to tank. They are playing for a roster spot
and/or a contract. If The Lakers FO is serious about tanking, they need to trade Pau
Gasol for draft picks and/or assets. Then we all will know for sure that the tank is
on!
As much as I would love for the Lakers to grab the #1 spot and draft Joel Embiid, I will
not be joining team tank. I understand the logic behind your arguments and am not
deluded enough to think we can make any serious runs at contention with our roster. I
am not opposed to trading away current assets for future considerations to build
the team. I draw the line at rooting for losses and accepting less than maximum
effort from the players on the court or working on their rehab.
One thing I know for sure, once you allow yourself to lose it gets easier to quit when
times are tough. Winning is a habit, born of a mentality which doesn't accept
failure. Winning organizations can't allow failure to fester and become part of
their culture. Losing organizations tend to stay that way for years regardless of
how many times they pick high in the draft. Their is a difference between losing and
being a loser. It's ok to lose to a better opponent as long as you go down
fighting,scratching and clawing with everything you've got. If that's your
mindset then you will improve and eventually become better than your opponent.
Exactly, look at all those years the Cavaliers had top picks, it's done them great
huh?!
mcbill Die-Hard Laker FanPosts: 1725votes: 16
01/20/2014 - 02:53 PM
"The difference between Champions and everyone else is that Champions aren't afraid of
losing, while everyone else is afraid of winning." Jeffrey
Fry
jrdogg29 Serious Laker FanPosts: 375votes: 0
01/20/2014 - 03:28 PM
Lakers don't quit...he ll no to tanking..That Is for Losers
I'm not joining team tank but I also don't care if we loose and end up with a good lottery
pick.
BaadMaster LNS HOF BronzePosts: 8876votes: 103
01/20/2014 - 03:47 PM
I am in!!! Brilliant move, Lakerz.
TANK, ROLL ON!
(We better not win tonight.)
Tidal_Wave Serious Laker FanPosts: 401Location: Lisbon, Portugal votes: 1
01/20/2014 - 04:01 PM
PurpleKnight wrote:
The problem is that these guys aren't trying to tank. They are playing for a roster
spot and/or a contract. If The Lakers FO is serious about tanking, they need to trade
Pau Gasol for draft picks and/or assets. Then we all will know for sure that the tank
is on!
Exactly, players don't tank FO do.
Trade Gasol and it's done, make the excuse that they want to get off the repeater
tax.
I remember watching the Spurs in 96/97. After losing Robinson and Elliot to injuries
their best player was an aging Dominique Wilkins(37 I believe). Even at 37 he led the
team in minutes played, along with the rest of their best players. Even though they
didn't have the horses to compete they came out every night trying. Even at that
point the spurs were a model of winning and consistency and were rewarded with the
top pick in a relatively weak draft even though they only had the third best odds.
There is a difference between tanking and just not being very good.
I'm glad you brought up that. So do you see this laker squad not trying? They don't have
the horses to compete and their main beat up thoroughbred is in the stable trying to
heal. You remember the Spurs main thoroughbred? How he was sat out the whole season
when he could have returned? Maybe they protected him from himself or maybe they
said why bring back our main horse for a race that won't gain any sort of victory. It
was a smart move, some people considered them tanking but the next season Robinson
was healthy, they had a rookie in Duncan who was killer and the rest is
history.
This team tries hard you can see it on the floor. They play harder than teams of yesteryear
who had their personal agendas and just came out flat a lot of times because tHey
acted like they could just show up and get a victory. This team is bad but the main
horse will come back purely for his own reasons, oh that's right he says it's his job.
He most likely will deal with nagging injuries the rest of his career since he will
come back this season to make that deep playoff push.
Those of us who want a high draft pick actually want us to be able to stop losing in the next
few years. That is why we want that pick this year. Kind of like getting a vaccine
against future illness.
Those of us who want a high draft pick actually want us to be able to stop losing in the
next few years. That is why we want that pick this year. Kind of like getting a vaccine
against future illness.
This is exactly what I'm trying to tell all these Lakers fans. They just don't get me.
Thank you!
Those of us who want a high draft pick actually want us to be able to stop losing in the
next few years. That is why we want that pick this year. Kind of like getting a vaccine
against future illness.
Aiming for a "vaccine" that may not even work by tanking is foolish. Keeping a
losing mentality will not help for the future regardless of a good top pick. Losing
is a bad habit, and the Cavaliers top picks don't seem to be saving them from their
"illness". Just giving my side of the argument here.
mcbill Die-Hard Laker FanPosts: 1725votes: 16
01/20/2014 - 04:46 PM
gemfow wrote:
Those of us who want a great draft pick aren't afraid of losing. Such a fitting quote.
Not being afraid to lose and rooting for it are two totally different things. To hear
lakers fans upset over a win or wishing we would keep our better performers on the
bench during close games is unacceptable. If the front office trades away all of the
decent talent that isn't injured so be it. I will still root for the lakers that are on
the floor to win.
I'm not saying you are wrong, but empirically this is not the way to build a winning
culture.
Aiming for a "vaccine" that may not even work by tanking is foolish.
Keeping a losing mentality will not help for the future regardless of a good top
pick. Losing is a bad habit, and the Cavaliers top picks don't seem to be saving them
from their "illness". Just giving my side of the argument here.
I cannot understand fans who want us to win enough to barely get into the playoffs. And
then lose.
This is an abberant year, with an abberant draft and an aberrant money cap. Normal rules
to not apply. We cannot buy our way to the top anymore. And, after this year, we have no
first round draft picks. And, with the Internet, the cache of a city is less
important than the ability of the star to monetize his stardom.
The ONLY way to make this year worth anything is to lose, lose. lose. THAT IS THE WAY THE
NBA IS SET UP. Thems the rules. Sorry if it does not coincide with your ideas of always
playing to win.
In fact, if the Lakers do not "tank," there will be a lot of defectors to the
Clippers -- whose whole revival came from THE DRAFT. (Blake
Griffin.)
GO TEAM TANK!!!
MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California Joined: 12/20/2011votes: 77
01/20/2014 - 05:09 PM
SPQR wrote:
Roman,
I'm in.
Here is quote from one of the greatest tank commanders who ever lived, Field Marshal
Erwin Rommel. It was almost like he could see this Lakers season from way back then
and knew the best path for us to take:
"Don't fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning."
Welcome Aboard Proud Laker Randy! The Newest member Of Team Tank. The Headquarter needs
Heavy Hitters like you....LOL
That Is makes it 4 strong members and counting.....
Randy, Rommel AKA: THE DESERT FOX... is one of my favorite WWii characters along with Col.
Montgommery and our very own Gen Patton....the most illustrious Tank
commanders.
Love the last quote!
Randy, we should strive to glorify all the Losses in the Tank HQ and conversely dissect and
mourn all wins...lol
BaadMaster LNS HOF BronzePosts: 8876votes: 103
01/20/2014 - 05:10 PM
We had better not win tonight.
MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California votes: 77
01/20/2014 - 05:16 PM
birna wrote:
Exactly, look at all those years the Cavaliers had top picks, it's done them great
huh?!
So, i should look at the track record of perennial losers like the Cavs for planning my
Laker future.....LOL
Btw they did get Lebron through the draft? right. Lets learn to see the glass half full
and focus on positives and not the negatives.....The mighty tank is at least
showing us some light at the end of the "dark Hole"
tunnel.
What else do we have going...besides waiting for "The Artist formerly known as the
Black Mamba" to return.
MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California votes: 77
01/20/2014 - 05:21 PM
BaadMaster wrote:
I am in!!! Brilliant move, Lakerz.
TANK, ROLL ON!
(We better not win tonight.)
I WAs Waiting for you BAAD! I knew a proud laker like you will provide the necessary
reinforcements required at our Tank HQ's.
Welcome aboard Newest member to Team Tank. That makes it 5 members and
counting.
Remember it's not what the tank can do for you...but it's what you could do for the
Tank..LOL
I cannot understand fans who want us to win enough to barely get into the playoffs.
And then lose.
This is an abberant year, with an abberant draft and an aberrant money cap. Normal rules
to not apply. We cannot buy our way to the top anymore. And, after this year, we have no
first round draft picks. And, with the Internet, the cache of a city is less
important than the ability of the star to monetize his stardom.
The ONLY way to make this year worth anything is to lose, lose. lose. THAT IS THE WAY THE
NBA IS SET UP. Thems the rules. Sorry if it does not coincide with your ideas of always
playing to win.
In fact, if the Lakers do not "tank," there will be a lot of defectors to the
Clippers -- whose whole revival came from THE DRAFT. (Blake
Griffin.)
GO TEAM TANK!!!
You just generalized me SO SO WRONG. You label me as a fan that wants my team to go to the
playoffs just to lose? I'm one who wants my team to perform the best they can perform.
Wherever they may land, that is not the case, I wouldn't mind they get lottery bound
or if they went deep in the playoffs... I do mind however that people are rooting for
losses.
The clippers whole revival did not come from the draft lol. That's ridiculous, I think
without Chris Paul; Kaman, Eric Gordon and Blake Griffin as the core would've been
horrid. The clippers FO made very smart decisions to get back into contention but
your judgment on all of their revival coming from Blake Griffin... You must be
misinformed. They are a second-round exit at best WITH Chris Paul. With Half-court
play slowing down in the playoffs, Chris Paul will be held down through the series
and who will they rely on to handle the ball then? Chris Paul isn't their savior, and
you think Blake Griffin is? Delusional, that's what you are. Go root for your
pathetic Clippers. I will give credit where credit is due, the Clippers are
definitely on the rise but for you to throw your Lakers blood away just because
things don't go the way you want them to, that's garbage.
I understand Lakers should not stand for mediocrity, but I will not allow the Lakers
to bring losing into their traditions ON PURPOSE just for a crack at a prospect that
might not even pan through. Do things right, perform how they may and better. The
future will be a lot more brighter than you may expect.
MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California votes: 77
01/20/2014 - 05:26 PM
BaadMaster wrote:
We had better not win tonight.
No...not all...we are already positioned at a disgusting #10 pick....we need to move on
up.....i mean down the standings.
MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California votes: 77
01/20/2014 - 05:28 PM
mcbill wrote:
"The difference between Champions and everyone else is that Champions
aren't afraid of losing, while everyone else is afraid of winning." Jeffrey
Fry
Which such a fantastic quote, which you posted, all that is left for me to do is ask you the
$$$$ question.......YOU IN?? LOL
MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California votes: 77
01/20/2014 - 05:31 PM
mcbill wrote:
Not being afraid to lose and rooting for it are two totally different things. To hear
lakers fans upset over a win or wishing we would keep our better performers on the
bench during close games is unacceptable. If the front office
trades away all of the decent talent that isn't injured so be it. I will still root for
the lakers that are on the floor to win.
I'm not saying you are wrong, but empirically this is not the way to build a winning
culture.
MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California votes: 77
01/20/2014 - 05:32 PM
gemfow wrote:
Those of us who want a great draft pick aren't afraid of losing. Such a fitting quote.
LOL ISNT that ironic??
AChad92 Laker GMPosts: 4781votes: 13
01/20/2014 - 05:41 PM
mcbill wrote:
"The difference between Champions and everyone else is that Champions
aren't afraid of losing, while everyone else is afraid of winning." Jeffrey
Fry
Ok wait.. why would anyone be afraid of winning?
MAGICLAKEZ LNS HOF GoldPosts: 19919Location: Los Angeles, California votes: 77
01/20/2014 - 05:43 PM
GhostNugget wrote:
I'm not joining team tank but I also don't care if we loose and end up with a good
lottery pick.
The Motto at TANK HQ's:
"It's not what the tank can do for you...but what you can do for the Tank"
LOL
Birna,
I understand what you are saying. But having a losing year does not suddenly
inculcate a losing tradition on a team. What does that is the moves the FO does over
years. They decisions they make. They players they get, or don't get.
I am not asking Mitch or the FO to purposefully lose this year. I just hope we do, for
obvious reasons.
Your example of Cleveland is just one of many. I can give you some others. The Spurs
took Tim Duncan and developed not only a culture of winning that lasts to this day,
but a culture of winning titles.
Closer to home, my Steelers had a great team, minus a QB. It relegated this great team
to losing in the playoffs every year to teams with top QBs. Then one year, they
underachieved for various reasons. They got the 11th pick in the draft. During that
whole season there was a running debate on whether it was better if they won or lost. I
wanted them to lose because there was certain QB I saw in college who I coveted, Ben
Rothliesberger. Well, in the draft, because some other dumb teams passed on him, we
did get him with the high pick (for us) at number 11. Three Superbowl appearances and
two championships later, nobody is upset we lost that year and missed the playoffs.
Sometimes, in certain situation, losing is winning. This team needs a new young
star in the worst possible way for its future, like those Steelers desperately
needed a top QB. I rooted for the Steelers to lose that year and don't regret it one
bit. No Steeler fan does now, even those who had a million arguments why it was better
if we won. Without that pick we would have had no super bowl
appearances....