The Official Offseason Plan Thread (P. 2)

JANNERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rush is great, when he played for the lakers he was a young rookie, and his second year he starter playing good. THen we traded him to the bobcats when he became an stater and played very decent minutes. Then he had some troubles with his coach and went out and played overseas. That helped allot to his development, and this year eh payer great for indiana, with very good shooting and great D. I will really love to see him back in the purple and gold.

I think that Kwame will be back, but we need to trade mihm, or do something with his contract, but I don´t know know who I rather have in the backup, Kwame DJ or mihm.

All the others know the triangle, so they will be good additions, but I don´t think we need them

i remember Kareem Rush and his heroics a couple times....Pargo has really evolved playing with that Hornets team and is a great player.

Here is a bold move: Odom, Luke, Farmar and Mihm to Miami for Marion and their Number 1 pick - Derrick Rose (assuming Bulls take Beasley). We become more versatile at the 3 and get a better defensive player. We get a dynamic young point guard that can learn under Fish and can really compete with the Parkers, Pauls, Williams of the West for years to come. The Heat would get a huge expiring contract in Lamar and can load up cap space for the huge 2010 free agent derby. I think we could play great on both sides of the ball with Rose - Kobe - Marion - Gasol - Bynum starting and Sasha, Vlad, Ariza, Ronny and Fish providing a high energy, sharp shooting and effective bench.

Here's another idea I was thinking about. Again, trades that I think about are realistic trades based on free agency, financial considerations, as well as what I hear and read other teams in the NBA are looking to do. Here's my thought: Trade Gasol to Detroit for Rasheed Wallace (Detroit has said repeatedly they they are looking to shake things up and Rasheed in on the market) Trade Lamar Odom and Vlad Rad to New Jersey for Richard Jefferson and Stromile Swift (Swift is a free agent and New Jersey is looking to rebuild by using Jefferson as a piece. Odom's contract would be fantastic for them and he would be returning home to the east coast which I think he would love. Swift would be a sign and trade). The Rasheed move is a great move for two reasons. By getting Rasheed the Lakers get a much tougher inside presence than Gasol. Sheed also opens up the floor with his outside shooting and his offensive numbers are similar to Gasol. Second, if it doesn't work out, the Lakers are only on the hook with him for one season at 13 mil compared to Gasol's three seasons at 15,16,17 mil a year respectively. The Richard Jefferson move answers our desperate need for a scoring small forward who plays tough defense. His game will open up the floor also and create more room for Kobe to operate. Plus we will have a fantastic defender for guys like Pierce. Swift is the added bonus here. New Jersey is going to loose him to free agency and they might as well get something for him. Swift would be a fantastic, athletic big man who could back up Bynum. FISH KOBE JEFFERSON RASHEED BYNUM FARMAR SASHA ARIZA/WALTON TURIAF SWIFT I really feel this move answers ALL of the Lakers problems both in defensive toughness and in offense. PLUS, there is....

why would we trade gasol for rasheed whos career is already over and Gasol is getting to his prime, the lamar trade idea for jefferson is good but i dont think New Jersey wants Rad's contract

I'm on the fence with that move. I love the idea of RJ who can shoot and slash, I like the idea of Swift getting some minutes off the bench. I'm just not too sure about Wallace, I guess he could fit in well with Bynum posting low, but I'm not too fomd of bigs faling in love with threes unless they have the firts name of Dirk.

i heard the the nets want to get a big contract that expires by 2010 to sign lebron james and lamar contract is huge

If Buss is trying to stay somewhere near the salary cap Jefferson is a horrible option he has 4 years 12+ million peryear left on his contract

I'll take either Tayshaun or RonRon. Everyone else is pretty much a hell no.

Yeah, but Gasol's and Odom's contracts are even larger. This move actually saves money.

Your retarded it saves us 2 million next year but costs us much more in the long run. 09.10 Jefferson, Kobe and Pau alone would be 53 million and 56 million in 10/11. Were trading odom to get otu of financial trouble not create a worse one

Why would we trade Pau when we haven't seen him play with Bynum yet? Sorry, but anymore Pau trade rumors should be disregarded.

Dude, first of all watch it with the insults. And second of all if you would have read the topic of this post you would know what we were talking about.

Odom and Vlad Rad together = $20 Mil next year outgoing

Gasol = 15 next year outgoing (16 and 17 mil the years after)

= 35 Million outgoing next season

Jefferson = 13 mil next year incoming (14 and 15 years after)

Rasheed = 13 Million next year incoming

Swift = 5 Million incoming (from sign and trade)

= 31 Million incoming next season which is a savings of 4 mil not 2.

Rasheed is still a fantastic force but is a little older now. The Lakers play him next season and then sign him for much less the year after, say in the 7-8 Million range if he wants to stay in LA and compete for another championship. There is your savings.

I would rather use the piece of Lamar for Jefferson NOW and use the expiring contract of Rasheed over Odom's next year. It would be much easier to negotiate with an older Rasheed. By doing this, we will have used Lamar's contract more effectively and picked up an all star small forward in Jefferson and all star power forward with more toughness in Wallace.

How about we just make some simple trades here and there to "tweak" our roster, not blow it up. A simple trade could be for Lamar, but nothing to complex, we're a championship team. Why trade everyone?

Stop smoking Dope !!!!

I would like to see Pargo and Mo, and maybe Rush three point shooter.

pargo would be good... good back up for kobe... plus him and farmar will get at it during practice

I think Ron Artest is the best fit for right now. We don't need a BIG trade because it'll take time for them to get used to being coached under PJ.

Pau for Wallace?!

One of the dumbest things I've heard of. Another team cancer. 1 potential team cancer (Kobe) is enough. Anymore stars with huge egos will scream of dysfunctional.

I'm with the folks who are salivating to see Pau play along Bynum. I for one think they will complement each other quite nicely.

And why the hell would NJ want Radman's contract?! So they can NOT bid on King James?!

Please spare me the caps in the title name. Neither of these makes sense.

I would personally rather use LO's exp contract towards Bynum's extension.

We just made the freaking FINALS and people want to make drastic changes. I just don't get it.

Why is this not in the "Official Trade Ideas Thread"???

Why would we want to take on Jefferson's massive contract?

Oops. You lost me right there.

13/6.5/2 is what we get and 17/10/4 is what we give up?

You're not even really a Laker fan, are you? You're trying to tank the team...

Wallace is 32. Jefferson has a worse contract than Odom. We're looking for defense, not aging centers.

Wallace is 32. Jefferson has a worse contract than Odom. We're looking for defense, not aging centers, although he does bring good D

A deal (somehow) for Tayshaun Prince would be a perfect fit. He is a very versatile defender, one of the best in the league. He can also score very well and is a versatile offensive threat as well. He would be an awesome asset to this team. I would also agree if we got Ron Artest. Either one of them would help us out tremendously. Shane Battier wouldn't be a bad pickup either if we can't land one of the other 2 for some reason. Let me know your thoughts and comments on one of these deals

Yeah. I guess people forgot about it, seeing as we haven't needed a trade idea for a while..........

But, yeah. This belongs in the the "Official Trade Ideas Thread".

Moved.

what do yall think of trading for Josh Howard. decent permiter defender, solid scorer with jumpshots and drives.

what you think

Prince would be perfect, but I'm sure he's not available. You should just think of the realistic additions. People like Prince aren't leaving Detroit, he wasn't the problem in Detroit.

I thought about Josh Howard today, but do you think it would be a good idea to bring him down to Cali where he has free reign in a place that is considered to have soem of the best weed?

I changed the name of this thread to the official offseason plan thread. any trades go here.

why the hell would posey join the lakers after winning a championship with the Celtics. he officially cannot become a laker on principle alone, either way Boston aint giving him up either.

i would be greatly surprised to see Posey leave after winning it, playing an integral role in their win, and having a great chance to win again while the celtics window is still open

Dumars has said major changes are gonna be made to the roster, and that no one is safe on that team. I'd bet money that many players on that team are available at that time. I mean, the guy wants to go after Carmelo. I think he knows Carmelo would not fit with them at all. Which is why I think the entire Pistons lineup is gonna get a makeover.

I would love tayshaun prince with the lakers!!!! that would be a dream come true

yes i love tayshaun ever since he played for UK

yea gemfow joe dumars said every player on the whole roster is available and up for a potential deal. So anything is possible given the right circumstances

Tayshun would be great, but I don't see the pistons dealing with the lakes.

but he doesn't solve the problem with containing pierce...

Josh Howard would fill that reliable scoring threat that the lakers need. can score with jumpshots and drives, plays hard, and decent perimiter defender.

i can see him and kobe feeding off of each other

out of those listed by the original poster i would like 2 or 3 of them at least to replace Mihm and Radmanovic and possibly DJ (even though i like him). Posey Diop Pargo Rush or Kwame. But thats just if i had to choose between the ones listed.

Really good scorer, but not a good passer, not the smartest guy around and tends to choke...

he might fit but I dont want him on my team

He probably wouldn't be able to shut down pierce with the way he was playing, but he would certainly bother him much more than any of our players did this series. Except Kobe. By getting a defensive player like him, it will save Kobe more energy, as he will not have to expend so much energy guarding pierce.

Im interested in Rush....

well, you have a point.... tayshun at his worst day does a better job on pierce than luke or vlad.....

Do we still have Chris Wallace in Memphis? I got a good deal for him. Space Balls for Rudy Gay, straight-up trade!

He should snap that one up without thinking twice...

yea im sayin if we cant get artest this would be almost pretty much just as good because tayshaun is also a major offensive threat and can create his own shot which will take pressure off fisher and farmar to create and they can focus more on scoring

anyway...

I see the pisons looking foward for a big trade to get a young superstar(ex: carmelo)

if only we had caron butler.......

but then we wouldnt have eventually got Gasol

Detroit needs to shake things up. Tayshun to LA! I'm signing that petition.

i would also want caron butler very much