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kkennon1 wrote:
Think another player would be B. Beal, would be perfect next to Lebron, plus gives you great defense.

Beal would be a perfect fit but would likely cost one or more of the core plus the pick. What about trading the #4 for Myles Turner and Indy’s #18. The pacers need to get rid of one of their two headed monster and we need a center who can stretch the floor and block shots. Check and check. Use the remaining cap space on shooters who can defend like Malcolm Brogden or Patrick Beverly throw a feeler out to Julius. Use the pick on a high upsideproject like Bol or Porter. Or maybe a guy on the rise like KZ Okpala.

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It’s ova.....lol

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kkennon1 wrote:
Top FA'S weren't coming to Lakers whether James was here or not. Not with this mess of a FO.

And no one has ever called him a cancer, just said it's hard to play with him because of media circus that comes with him.

Plus most of these FA's want to beat him ,not help him win another championship, just like Wade ,James and others said about Kobe when he was playing and couldn't get any to come.

I just called him a cancer. After this year, he is a cancer. He ruined the chemistry that was developing and the coach quit. Combine that with free agents reportedly not wanting to join him, he’s a cancer.

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kkennon1 wrote:
Think a lot of it has to do with Kyrie and Hayward, all those Celtics young guys fell off this season when KI and GH came back , and some already said if team is same next year they rather be somewhere else. Tatum is a good young player, but most of it comes from great playoff run. Think BI and lakers core could get same hype if they stay healthy and make playoffs.

I fully agree that Kyrie and Hayward affected the kids. I don’t want Kyrie anywhere near LA because it’s enough that I have to watch Lebron iso but to watch Lebron and Kyrie take turns isolating would be m*rd*r. After watching Kobe hold the ball for so many years, I’d like to see an actual offensive system in LA that’s isn’t named the triangle.

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I like the Ball to the Suns for the 6th pick idea. Then package 4+6 to the Pels for AD. Then if Irving comes it's ova. We back. Fill it in with Hart/KCP (on a team friendly deal this time and tell him to start playing like a man like he did at the end of the season). Have to give up Kuz or Ing probably as well. S'aight. Whoever stays is 6th man. Get a decent shooter or 2. Bam!
give max contracts to guys who aren’t the best fit? Lebron and Kyrie don’t necessarily fit in a system and it will turn AD into a modern day Chris Bosh/Kevin Love who becomes a spot up shooter. On top of that, those three max contracts leave the Lakers with the inability to fill out the roster with good players.

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JJCali wrote:
I just called him a cancer. After this year, he is a cancer. He ruined the chemistry that was developing and the coach quit. Combine that with free agents reportedly not wanting to join him, he’s a cancer.

Lol, coach quit because he didn't want to upgrade his terrible coaching staff, want to keep his college buddies. Chemistry was starting to look pretty good before injuries. As far as top FA'S not wanting to play with him, than I guess Kobe was cancer too.

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ANy new thoughts on draft players who might be bargains? Seems like a few have their value rising. Who is Jordan Boone? Is he expected to go high? Hi stats are pretty ridiculous.

Speed and hops. Can he dribble? Shoot? And what about Fall? lol

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine/

Here are the rest of the 2019 category leaders:

Body Fat % -- Oshea Brissett | 2.9 %

Hand Length -- Tacko Fall | 10.5 inches

Hand Width -- Neemias Queta | 11 inches

Most of the top players in each category are not names of who's expected to go in the top 3.

Height Without Shoes -- Tacko Fall | 7 feet, 5.25 inches

Weight -- Tacko Fall | 288.8 pounds

Lane Agility Time -- Jordan Boone | 9.97 seconds

Shuttle Run -- Jordan Boone | 2.78 seconds

Three Quarter Sprint -- Jordan Boone | 3.03 seconds

Standing Vertical Leap -- Jordan Boone | 36.0 inches

Max Vertical Leap -- Jalen Lecque | 43.0 inches

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Shepherd wrote:
ANy new thoughts on draft players who might be bargains? Seems like a few have their value rising. Who is Jordan Boone? Is he expected to go high? Hi stats are pretty ridiculous. Speed and hops. Can he dribble? Shoot? And what about Fall? lol https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine/ Here are the rest of the 2019 category leaders: Body Fat % -- Oshea Brissett | 2.9 % Hand Length -- Tacko Fall | 10.5 inches Hand Width -- Neemias Queta | 11 inches Most of the top players in each category are not names of who's expected to go in the top 3. Height Without Shoes -- Tacko Fall |....

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Wow!! Love that Magic went no holds barred on his interview today!! Will be very awkward if he is in the same room as Peklinka again.

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magic42157 wrote:
Wow!! Love that Magic went no holds barred on his interview today!! Will be very awkward if he is in the same room as Peklinka again.

Didn't help much with FA's that might be thinking about coming.

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Shepherd wrote:
ANy new thoughts on draft players who might be bargains? Seems like a few have their value rising. Who is Jordan Boone? Is he expected to go high? Hi stats are pretty ridiculous.

Speed and hops. Can he dribble? Shoot? And what about Fall? lol

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine/

Here are the rest of the 2019 category leaders:

Body Fat % -- Oshea Brissett | 2.9 %

A body fat % of less than 5% is regarded as a warning sign of poor health, even in elite athletes. You need something like 3% to account for your essential organ functions.

Those numbers are seriously skewed, and what reason is there for this test anyways?

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magic42157 wrote:
Wow!! Love that Magic went no holds barred on his interview today!! Will be very awkward if he is in the same room as Peklinka again.

Yep it is what it is. Now wait to hear from the other side because you know it's coming....lol.

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kkennon1 wrote:
Didn't help much with FA's that might be thinking about coming.

I don't understand Magic's MO with the interview. What good came of it in regards to the Lakers franchise? He says he loves the Lakers, BS. I had little respect for him before his hire, I don't see how any Laker fan can have any respect for him now.

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userpete1037 wrote:
Yep it is what it is. Now wait to hear from the other side because you know it's coming....lol.

Lakers just need to maintain this media silence and move on. The less light brought to his interview the better. Going to be hard if they are announcing Vogel today. The media narrative is going to be about Magic and them trying to get sound bites clapping back.

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Tempy wrote:
Lakers just need to maintain this media silence and move on. The less light brought to his interview the better. Going to be hard if they are announcing Vogel today. The media narrative is going to be about Magic and them trying to get sound bites clapping back.

Magic feeling like :

Lmao !!!

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kkennon1 wrote:
Magic feeling like :

Lmao !!!

Lol...I saw that on B/R. Funny.

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Tempy wrote:
I don't understand Magic's MO with the interview. What good came of it in regards to the Lakers franchise? He says he loves the Lakers, BS. I had little respect for him before his hire, I don't see how any Laker fan can have any respect for him now.

I couldn’t agree more. I posted a similar comment in another thread. Not sure what he was/is thinking but between the way he handled his departure from the organization to the things he has said in these recent interviews, he’s certainly not helping the organization nor is he helping the perception others will have of him. Especially when he touts the fact that he loves the organization so much and will do anything he can to help. He sure as hell isn’t helping this franchise when he goes on record making those statements regardless if that is how he feels or even if there is truth to it. Some things are better off left unsaid. That said, I think Rob handled the questions during today's press conference regarding Magics comments with eloquence and professionalism.

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Tempy wrote:
I don't understand Magic's MO with the interview. What good came of it in regards to the Lakers franchise? He says he loves the Lakers, BS. I had little respect for him before his hire, I don't see how any Laker fan can have any respect for him now.
Why would Magic put the Lakers' franchise above himself? IMO this is all about Magic trying to absolve himself of the huge mess in LA and to give people a look into why he supposedly left and for people to say they can't blame him for leaving.

We know it's a mess in LA but in a way, I hope his words really gets Buss to thinking how crazy it is to run things the way she's running them. Every time I turn around it seems like there is some sort of advisor chiming in. Magic said something similar when Jim Buss was in charge. Magic said there are way too many voices in LA and it needs to be one person. I agree with him but that one voice never should have been Magic.

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They need someone like a David Griffin to run the franchise. Clean house and install pros. All this turmoil is making us look like a Mickey Mouse franchise -- no insult to Mickey intended!

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gemfow wrote:
Why would Magic put the Lakers' franchise above himself? IMO this is all about Magic trying to absolve himself of the huge mess in LA and to give people a look into why he supposedly left and for people to say they can't blame him for leaving.

We know it's a mess in LA but in a way, I hope his words really gets Buss to thinking how crazy it is to run things the way she's running them. Every time I turn around it seems like there is some sort of advisor chiming in. Magic said something similar when Jim Buss was in charge. Magic said there are way too many voices in LA and it needs to be one person. I agree with him but that one voice never should have been Magic.

It's ironic after all the years of Tweets bashing Jim that he was no better. As you said, it's all about his ego and wanting to wash his hands of this mess. None of it makes sense though. They traded Russell because of the "shaggy" P incident. His words lol. Then said he wanted to fire Luke but Tim wouldn't let him, but Luke gets canned 2 days later? Michael Scott runs the office better than these clowns lol

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Trump would be a better manager than these clowns LMAO....

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Tempy wrote:
It's ironic after all the years of Tweets bashing Jim that he was no better. As you said, it's all about his ego and wanting to wash his hands of this mess. None of it makes sense though. They traded Russell because of the "shaggy" P incident. His words lol. Then said he wanted to fire Luke but Tim wouldn't let him, but Luke gets canned 2 days later? Michael Scott runs the office better than these clowns lol

Did Luke get canned or did he walk because of college buddies??? Read some reports that said they wanted to still keep him , but he wouldn't change his coaching staff.

Guess it was easy when you knew you had a job right up the coast. Lol

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kkennon1 wrote:
Did Luke get canned or did he walk because of college buddies??? Read some reports that said they wanted to still keep him , but he wouldn't change his coaching staff.

Guess it was easy when you knew you had a job right up the coast. Lol

Yea I saw something too where they wanted to pick his staff and he said to hell with that....

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Mutually agreed to part ways. Best sound bite for both parties.

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On a different note: saw something that the Bulls are interested in Ball. They could possibly present a third team in a trade for AD to the Lakers.

What are some trade proposals? Could the lakers still keep a lottery pick if Bulls are involved in trade for AD?

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LALA-LandShow24 wrote:
On a different note: saw something that the Bulls are interested in Ball. They could possibly present a third team in a trade for AD to the Lakers.

What are some trade proposals? Could the lakers still keep a lottery pick if Bulls are involved in trade for AD?

Would depend on what other teams are offering.

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Tempy wrote:
It's ironic after all the years of Tweets bashing Jim that he was no better. As you said, it's all about his ego and wanting to wash his hands of this mess. None of it makes sense though. They traded Russell because of the "shaggy" P incident. His words lol. Then said he wanted to fire Luke but Tim wouldn't let him, but Luke gets canned 2 days later? Michael Scott runs the office better than these clowns lol
Lol, I got a laugh out of his Shaggy P comment too. It was telling when Magic said he planned on being there three years. I think we knew that he was trying to get them back into playoff contention but he was giving himself three years to do it which meant obliterating anything that was in place and building his own thing. It's just another Jeannie Buss mistake. I'm glad Mitch and Jim are gone but her resistance to hiring people outside of former Lakers is mind-boggling.

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Did Luke get canned or did he walk because of college buddies??? Read some reports that said they wanted to still keep him , but he wouldn't change his coaching staff.

Guess it was easy when you knew you had a job right up the coast. Lol

I think Luke decided to bounce and I can't blame him. He may not be this perfect coach but he got a raw deal. Magic was in his @$$ by the third week with that garbage roster.

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gemfow wrote:
I think Luke decided to bounce and I can't blame him. He may not be this perfect coach but he got a raw deal. Magic was in his @$$ by the third week with that garbage roster.

LOL...Magic said it as such. " I wanted to hire a better coach." I was like dang, Magic at least let the dude try. I was sorta torn between , them telling Luke to hire better assistants. Did Luke feel , that whoever Magic/Pelinka wanted would eventually take his job and he resisted? Or did Luke say screw all of y'all and I will roll with my guys? Magic did do him in, I think. Magic gave him trash and then expected a filet mignon.

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LALA-LandShow24 wrote:
On a different note: saw something that the Bulls are interested in Ball. They could possibly present a third team in a trade for AD to the Lakers.

What are some trade proposals? Could the lakers still keep a lottery pick if Bulls are involved in trade for AD?

Per Fanside

  1. Ball and Hart for the Bulls seveth pick and Kriss Dunn and Denzel Valentine.

  2. Ingram, Ball for 2019 NO. 7 PICK, KRIS DUNN, WENDELL CARTER JR., CHANDLER HUTCHISON and

  3. CHICAGO BULLS GET

LONZO BALL

LOS ANGELES LAKERS GET

ANTHONY DAVIS

NEW ORLEANS PELICANS GET

BRANDON INGRAM, KYLE KUZMA, KRIS DUNN, 2019 NO. 4 AND 7 PICKS

As I have stated before, I am up for keeping our core together to see if properly coached, with a real system , if they can be successful. I like the 1st option. And the 2nd is cool, but I am an Ingram fan and I really want to see him succeed in LA, but those are some of the deals floating out there.

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lakerdudeinindy wrote:
Per Fanside

  1. Ball and Hart for the Bulls seveth pick and Kriss Dunn and Denzel Valentine.

  2. Ingram, Ball for 2019 NO. 7 PICK, KRIS DUNN, WENDELL CARTER JR., CHANDLER HUTCHISON and

  3. CHICAGO BULLS GET

LONZO BALL

LOS ANGELES LAKERS GET

ANTHONY DAVIS

NEW ORLEANS PELICANS GET

BRANDON INGRAM, KYLE KUZMA, KRIS DUNN, 2019 NO. 4 AND 7 PICKS

As I have stated before, I am up for keeping our core together to see if properly coached, with a real system , if they can be successful. I like the 1st option. And the 2nd is cool, but I am an Ingram fan and I really want to see him succeed in LA, but those are some of the deals floating out there.

I think the Bulls would want more than just Ball for the 7th pick and NO would hands down win this deal if they got 2 lottery picks and Kuz and Ingram.

I actually would try to get AD and Dunn to LA. I think Dunn could be serviceable off the bench.

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Ball is better than anything after the first 3 picks in this draft. Don't sleep on how much better we were defensively with him on the court last year and in Vogel's system, that might even do better ......... (of course all this depends on him ever staying healthy and on the floor)

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magic42157 wrote:
Ball is better than anything after the first 3 picks in this draft. Don't sleep on how much better we were defensively with him on the court last year and in Vogel's system, that might even do better ......... (of course all this depends on him ever staying healthy and on the floor)

I agree. Like I said before, I would rather keep the young core and let them develop instead of just giving them away to win now, even with LeBron on the team. He'll be gone soon and the Lakers need to start building a consistent brand.

I actually want the Lakers to keep the 4th pick and get a player that fits. Just because the so-called draft pundits says the draft is weak after the third pick doesn't mean that the Lakers can't unearth a solid pick.

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Ok...so I seen on BR and watched a guy that would be intriguing to buy into the 2nd round: Luka Sumic is a 6'11" power forward that is stretch forward, with good shooting skills, an off the dribble game and plays defense. Mo Wagner doesn't really impress me, so I think this kid deserves a look. The dude I wanted ;Bol Bol lost weight going into the combine and that has actually hurt him at the combine. I really like him and think he would be a good player to draft.

I watched a little more of De'andre Hunter and his game does remind me of Kawhi's alot!!!

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So let's keep building in the draft heh. Buy the pick for Luka, and take Hunter. We'd have an all rookie team again, almost. But if no stars come along, then why not? It worked well up to a point before.

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Shepherd wrote:
So let's keep building in the draft heh. Buy the pick for Luka, and take Hunter. We'd have an all rookie team again, almost. But if no stars come along, then why not? It worked well up to a point before.

If no one comes, they'll have no choice but to draft a player, unless they make a dumb trade for someone other than AD or Beal.

Maybe Lebron asks for trade if they go into next season with young guys and no other star.

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I like Hunter but trading down with Atlanta and picking up a high second rounder makes a lot of sense. My preference after Hunter is Jaxon Hayes who should be available at 8. He plays a position of need and may have the highest upside of anyone not named Zion in this draft. Doing this would free up about $3 million in cap space making it easier for that max slot plus retaining rights to one guy.

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kkennon1 wrote:
Did Luke get canned or did he walk because of college buddies??? Read some reports that said they wanted to still keep him , but he wouldn't change his coaching staff.

Guess it was easy when you knew you had a job right up the coast. Lol

Luke totally bounced. I’ve been saying that. Reports said they wanted to keep him. Then he left and had another job the next day lol. He said F this BS. Magic wanted to fire me after trading away all my young talent and stuck me with LeBum. Peace!!

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From my research, three names keep popping up in regards to our pick;

1.) DeAndre Hunter

2.) Darius Garland

3.) Jarret Culver

Thoughts? Go!

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Angeluus wrote:
From my research, three names keep popping up in regards to our pick;

1.) DeAndre Hunter

2.) Darius Garland

3.) Jarret Culver

Thoughts? Go!

Hunter has been compared to Kawaii, but he is not as good with the ball. Garland is a mystery as he got hurt early in the season. A lot of people like him, but I have seen on some sites that he still is not taking full contact drills which is a big red flag. Culver has been compared to DeRozen on some sites. Seems to have a lot of room to grow, but not the 3 point shooter that Hunter is.

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magic42157 wrote:
Hunter has been compared to Kawaii, but he is not as good with the ball. Garland is a mystery as he got hurt early in the season. A lot of people like him, but I have seen on some sites that he still is not taking full contact drills which is a big red flag. Culver has been compared to DeRozen on some sites. Seems to have a lot of room to grow, but not the 3 point shooter that Hunter is.

I am leaning towards Hunter and Culver personally.

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Forget trading for AD, he like Embid and Giannis will also be a dud in the playoffs specially without the very talented young core. LBJs presence is not enough to help AD propel the LAKERS to championship level, most specially, AD is injury prone and LBJs age is telling on him in his health.

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De’Andre Hunter will be the surprise NBA star in this draft. If the Lakers pass on him (he will likely be available at #4) they will regret it.

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He is already 22 years old. Some analysts are not predicting a very high ceiling for him. Garland is younger and has a lot higher upside.

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I'm sorry, but there should be some legal repercussions against a legitimate news channel running countless hour long segments about how disorganized the Lakers organization is. Segment on right now titled, "Has Jennie Buss Ruined the Lakers?". The one before that, "Lakers failure 2.0." And the one before that, "Lakers completely disorganized."

They are trying to sink and already sunk ship. I understand that we have some issues, but the 24/7 negative coverage really hurts us in the free agency market. I personally think something should be done about it. I don't want to hear that we shouldn't control the media. I get that and I am all for the media being able to spread their wings, but ESPN should call itself what it is, "An Anit-Laker Propaganda Channel."

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Angeluus wrote:
I'm sorry, but there should be some legal repercussions against a legitimate news channel running countless hour long segments about how disorganized the Lakers organization is. Segment on right now titled, "Has Jennie Buss Ruined the Lakers?". The one before that, "Lakers failure 2.0." And the one before that, "Lakers completely disorganized." They are trying to sink and already sunk ship. I understand that we have some issues, but the 24/7 negative coverage really hurts us in the free agency market. I personally think something should be done about it. I don't want to hear that we shouldn't control the media.....

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kkennon1 wrote:
Totally disagree, ownership put theirselves in this situation, funny how this story came out after Magic going on ESPN. Think someone in FO had something to do with this current story.

What exactly are you disagreeing with? That ESPN is an anti Laker propaganda Channel? It's not like this is new. They have always been anti Lakers. I agree with you that the Lakers front office has put themselves in this position, but ESPN isn't helping matters.

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Angeluus wrote:
I'm sorry, but there should be some legal repercussions against a legitimate news channel running countless hour long segments about how disorganized the Lakers organization is. Segment on right now titled, "Has Jennie Buss Ruined the Lakers?". The one before that, "Lakers failure 2.0." And the one before that, "Lakers completely disorganized." They are trying to sink and already sunk ship. I understand that we have some issues, but the 24/7 negative coverage really hurts us in the free agency market. I personally think something should be done about it. I don't want to hear that we shouldn't control the media.....


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