Magic Johnson Steps Down as Lakers President (P. 4)

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Kings just fired their coach. He exceeded expectations and is out. ....but we are keeping this team of Luke and Rob in place?? If the rumors are true that Magic wanted to clean house and Jeanie wouldn’t let him and that is why he quit, we are in more trouble than we thought!!!!

The Kings firing their coach reminds of when the Pels fired Monty Williams. He was doing really good too. I just don't get it.


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I can't really disagree with Magic there, lol. Ty Lue wasn't the answer if the rumor was true but I do like Monty Williams who was supposedly the other rumor.


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Well than someone is lying, because Magic clearly said that he and Rob were thrown together. Doesn't sound like he hired him, sounds more like Jeanie got someone whispering in her ear ,said hire Rob. Someone like maybe an ex Lakers legend. Lol
I personanly believe Kobe was behind the Pelinka hiring. He may have said consider him but Jeannie took it t heart because Kobe is a former Lakers' great. She has something for former Lakers.


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Lakers allegedly going after a top trainer from the Raptors.

Let's hope so. They need to clean house in a big way. If Jeannie is reading our posts she knows exactly what to do lol


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2 updates. First Lakers finally fire their training staff. An action I've been screaming for from the rooftops for years.

https://sports.yahoo.com/los-angeles-la ... 56640.html

And Jeannie wants Rambis to be team president now? Wtf? If that happens I'm done with this team. Done! Bad enough they hired him as "senior basketball advisor" last year. The guy isn't good enough (at anything) to serve donuts at the local coffee shop imo. There they go, grabbing onto ex-Lakers again. Wtf is it with this team? Are you shy? Can't speak to strangers? Wtf?


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Everyone loves Jeanie.....LMAO!!!

Like Mr T used to say...”Pity the Foo.” Lol


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This was a power play by the Lakers this is chest not checkers you guys will see


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Shepherd wrote:
2 updates. First Lakers finally fire their training staff. An action I've been screaming for from the rooftops for years. https://sports.yahoo.com/los-angeles-lakers-fire-head-trainer-marco-nu nez-after-season-full-of-injuries-lebron-james-014756640.html And Jeannie wants Rambis to be team president now? Wtf? If that happens I'm done with this team. Done! Bad enough they hired him as "senior basketball advisor" last year. The guy isn't good enough (at anything) to serve donuts at the local coffee shop imo. There they go, grabbing onto ex-Lakers again. Wtf is it with this team? Are you shy? Can't speak to strangers? Wtf?
This is no different than corporate america. There are tons of people who have....


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This was a power play by the Lakers this is chest not checkers you guys will see

I sure hope so. Regardless of what happens I'm a Laker for life. I'll just come in this forum to vent as always.....lol.


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gemfow wrote:
I personanly believe Kobe was behind the Pelinka hiring. He may have said consider him but Jeannie took it t heart because Kobe is a former Lakers' great. She has something for former Lakers.

It was reported a few times that Kobe recommended him to her. Just SMH on the dumbness of this. Now he elevates possibly and now (whether this is true or not.) They may keep him to see if he can get Kawhi, if not maybe he stays or goes. She needs to step and say something at this point. When they need to talk no one says anything, when they should shut up the team as whole run their mouths with non-sensical crap that makes the Lakers the laughing stock of the NBA now. We have reached New York Knicks country and it's not pretty.

She definitely has a thing for former Lakers, with Rambis and Phil still lurking around like unexorcised ghost. Just confusing.


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2 updates. First Lakers finally fire their training staff. An action I've been screaming for from the rooftops for years. https://sports.yahoo.com/los-angeles-lakers-fire-head-trainer-marco-nu nez-after-season-full-of-injuries-lebron-james-014756640.html And Jeannie wants Rambis to be team president now? Wtf? If that happens I'm done with this team. Done! Bad enough they hired him as "senior basketball advisor" last year. The guy isn't good enough (at anything) to serve donuts at the local coffee shop imo. There they go, grabbing onto ex-Lakers again. Wtf is it with this team? Are you shy? Can't speak to strangers? Wtf?
LOL...not going to lie...I felt the same way. I'm thinking you have the opportunity....


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It was reported a few times that Kobe recommended him to her. Just SMH on the dumbness of this. Now he elevates possibly and now (whether this is true or not.) They may keep him to see if he can get Kawhi, if not maybe he stays or goes. She needs to step and say something at this point. When they need to talk no one says anything, when they should shut up the team as whole run their mouths with non-sensical crap that makes the Lakers the laughing stock of the NBA now. We have reached New York Knicks country and it's not pretty.

She definitely has a thing for former Lakers, with Rambis and Phil still lurking around like unexorcised ghost. Just confusing.

It absolutely kills me that this thing with former Lakers just keeps going on. It's hurting this franchise because they want to keep looking at former Lakers for positions as if there aren't better qualified people. I didn't even know Rambis and his wife were working for the Lakers until recently. This is a nightmare because it's not even as if former Lakers have been great. Why can't they just do like James Worthy and Robert Horry and do telecasts and leave the big time basketball decisions to the big dogs.


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Think about it like this guys if Ujiri takes the Lakers job who does the raptors have to recruit kawhi back Ujiri can be like hey join me in Los Angeles it pretty much becomes a two man race for kawhi with the LA teams


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gemfow wrote:
It absolutely kills me that this thing with former Lakers just keeps going on. It's hurting this franchise because they want to keep looking at former Lakers for positions as if there aren't better qualified people. I didn't even know Rambis and his wife were working for the Lakers until recently. This is a nightmare because it's not even as if former Lakers have been great. Why can't they just do like James Worthy and Robert Horry and do telecasts and leave the big time basketball decisions to the big dogs.
I was listening to local....


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userpete1037 wrote:
This is no different than corporate america. There are tons of people who have positions that are unqualified but because they are liked by the people that hire them, they get a pass.

Dang, I wish I could get one of those jobs lol


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As for KB taking over the influence behind the scenes, using Rob as his mouthpiece. I've no idea about that. But again, if true, it's all on Jeannie for allowing it to happen.

All it suggests is she doesan't trust her own judgement, has no idea what she's doing, and has to 'ask the experts' for their input. When you do that you will always get agendas.

It's different when you hire someone, as they have their authority, and are in the light. Maybe KB is trying to drive down the value of the team so he can swoop in and buy it? lol

Anyways that stuff is all speculation. And pointless imo. The buck stops with Jeannie. If she can't figure this out, and do it the right way, she can still own the team, but needs to step down.


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Dang, I wish I could get one of those jobs lol

You and me both....lol.


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I ended up believing that getting Magic for this position was never the right move. Such a position requires hard work and dedication. I at first figured it could ultimately be ok considering his prominence in the NBA, but that ended up being a non-factor and it showed that he was not qualified to do the job nor did he have the bandwidth.


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I don't mind the position if it means taking control of everything, analytics, training staff, Medical staff, coaches, scouting department etc etc but the way Magic was doing it, yeah it was a farce.

That should all be the general manager. We never used to hear about this whole “President of basketball operations” nonsense. Rarely see it in football too. It’s a dumbass position.


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kkennon1 wrote:
She didn't give him power to hire a GM, they were just thrown together, beginning to think there might be something to Lavar saying Magic was just a face. Either way, Jeanie needs to complete the house cleaning and let Rob walk too.

That’s not what was said when it happened. All we heard 2 1/2 years ago was that Magic hired Pelinka. Now we get all this revisionist history by the media. Typical.


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kkennon1 wrote:
Makes me remember what Stephen A. said a few years ago, what fans read and what gets out, is probably only 25% or less of the real truth, of what's really happening behind the scenes.

yeah, but he’s constantly making sh*t up himself lol


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userpete1037 wrote:
The Kings firing their coach reminds of when the Pels fired Monty Williams. He was doing really good too. I just don't get it.

They want Luke


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Conspiracy theories everywhere! Just falling out of the sky. You guys forget Magic was campaigning for the job before Jeannie even fired her brother. Magic flat out said on First take, if the job becomes open, I do want it. Then shortly after, he got it. All reports were that HE hired Pelinka, pretty sure he stated so himself at the time, and that he had full control over the team.

Now that he quit, or secretly got fired, we defend his trash moves and start to put the blame on everyone else? You guys gotta be kidding. Magic decided to go after James, to trade Russell for cap space and let Randle walk for cap space. Even if Pelinka had more control that we thought, we all know he’d still be carrying out Magic’s vision/plan. Like SPQR stated, Magic didn’t openly campaign for the job, take the job that he wanted not needed, tell everyone he had control all the meanwhile just being some sort of puppet or figurehead. He could’ve kept working as an analyst for ABC, banking money off Starbucks and the Dodgers. I doubt he had any complaints with that life. He wanted to run the Lakers, and that’s what he got. He did a terrible job at it and got let go. Stop making excuses for him or placing the blame elsewhere.


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JJCali wrote:
That should all be the general manager. We never used to hear about this whole “President of basketball operations” nonsense. Rarely see it in football too. It’s a dumbass position.

Well I guess what do you term general manager as? With scouting, and running the G league affiliate team and being involved in trade talks, player contracts etc etc I see the reason why they need someone else to handle the other areas. Does that person have to oversee the GM? I don't know, I don't know enough about the inner workings of NBA front offices. I see why some teams think it's necessary and why some don't.

Just wish the Lakers could find somebody competent to actually get the franchise back to where it needs to be.


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I’m hearing Magic quit his current position since his performance was below expectations.


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JJCali wrote:
Conspiracy theories everywhere! Just falling out of the sky. You guys forget Magic was campaigning for the job before Jeannie even fired her brother. Magic flat out said on First take, if the job becomes open, I do want it. Then shortly after, he got it. All reports were that HE hired Pelinka, pretty sure he stated so himself at the time, and that he had full control over the team.

Now that he quit, or secretly got fired, we defend his trash moves and start to put the blame on everyone else? You guys gotta be kidding. Magic decided to go after James, to trade Russell for cap space and let Randle walk for cap space. Even if Pelinka had more control that we thought, we all know he’d still be carrying out Magic’s vision/plan. Like SPQR stated, Magic didn’t openly campaign for the job, take the job that he wanted not needed, tell everyone he had control all the meanwhile just being some sort of puppet or figurehead. He could’ve kept working as an analyst for ABC, banking money off Starbucks and the Dodgers. I doubt he had any complaints with that life. He wanted to run the Lakers, and that’s what he got. He did a terrible job at it and got let go. Stop making excuses for him or placing the blame elsewhere.

A lot of assuming. Think they're all to blame, from Jeanie on down.


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Lmfao, Hell No!!!!


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kkennon1 wrote:
Lmfao, Hell No!!!!

What do you mean hire? He’s already the de facto GM...lol.


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A lot of assuming. Think they're all to blame, from Jeanie on down.

People on here are throwing Kobe’s name in there too, lmao. Like he’s even apart of the FO. This is on Magic. And I blame Jeannie cause she hired him. But this isn’t Luke, Pelinka or Kobe calling the shots. It’s Magic.


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JJCali wrote:
People on here are throwing Kobe’s name in there too, lmao. Like he’s even apart of the FO. This is on Magic. And I blame Jeannie cause she hired him. But this isn’t Luke, Pelinka or Kobe calling the shots. It’s Magic.

Like I said, a lot of assuming. Don't know who was doing what. I'm sure Pelinka had something to do with this mess too. Doubt if Kobe had anything to do with it. But At this point, nothing would surprise me!!!!


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PS: Some explicit language....

Dave/ mods please take it down if you feel it crosses the line.


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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:

PS: Some explicit language....

Dave/ mods please take it down if you feel it crosses the line.

I remember that one......hilarious!!!!


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Sounds like Zo isn't missing Magic a whole lot. Lmao


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kkennon1 wrote:
Sounds like Zo isn't missing Magic a whole lot. Lmao

Yeah, college educated dudes talkin' right there. Jhc.


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Yeah, college educated dudes talkin' right there. Jhc.

And you think college educated people don't talk that way when their just hanging out? And it has nothing to do with color.

Come hang out down by ASU on a Friday night. Lmao


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Zo growing up, talking charge.


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And you think college educated people don't talk that way when their just hanging out? And it has nothing to do with color.

Come hang out down by ASU on a Friday night. Lmao

I never mentioned anyone's color. But yeah I've no doubt. College's are full of idiots now lol. And pple, of all colors and races etc, who all want to talk gangsta and ghetto. Isn't the idea of going to an institute of higher learning that you have a brain and common sense, want to learn and do better? If you can't speak decent english, are lazy, and have a bad attitude, you shouldn't be allowed in. Sad.


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Zo growing up, talking charge.

Who doesn't want a dad like Lonzo's? Omg LMAO. I hope nobody. Talk about trying to spin a horrid situation, and person, into a positive. So Cali/Hollyweird. Sheeesh.


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Who doesn't want a dad like Lonzo's? Omg LMAO. I hope nobody. Talk about trying to spin a horrid situation, and person, into a positive. So Cali/Hollyweird. Sheeesh.

Yeah, he's a loud mouth. But he seems to always have his sons backs, good for bad. There's a lot of kids out there that would love to have him as a dad or any dad in they're lives.

We see the media side, we have no idea what he's like at home when cameras are off. Seems to have raised his sons right, they've stayed out of trouble, except for that China thing.


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Shepherd wrote:
I never mentioned anyone's color. But yeah I've no doubt. College's are full of idiots now lol. And pple, of all colors and races etc, who all want to talk gangsta and ghetto. Isn't the idea of going to an institute of higher learning that you have a brain and common sense, want to learn and do better? If you can't speak decent english, are lazy, and have a bad attitude, you shouldn't be allowed in. Sad.

Yeah, the whole gangster talk makes me laugh, but I don't think that shows a bad attitude or laziness. Just the way youth talks these days. Unfortunately!!!


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Anyone else miss these amazing insights? Lol


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^^^

Hell no...…..smh.


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I have the same insight as Magic so I’m wondering if the Lakes would like to hire me as his replacement


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And one step closer. Destabilize the management by creating scandal, hint at an interest in purchasing the team, feign at caring about the Buss family, make pubic appearances to secure the lies and all that remains is one more scandal or two and the agenda is complete... Perhaps he'll persuade LeBron to leave behind closed doors?


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These actions of Magic is deliberate to destroy the ballclub so he and his group can buy it. These are pre-plan when he took over as president. He traded very talented Russel just to get rid of Moscov and likewise traded another talented player in Randle for nothing. Worst he was on the verge on giving the whole bunch of young core for AD, its a blessing the Pels did'nt take advantage of the disparity of the trade.

Ballclubs should not entertain this very dangerous man who works like a mafia for his vested interest.

This guy is so thick faced that just before the Lakers go on air to formally introduce their newly hired coach, he went ahead to a presscon destroying his former associate Pelinka. This is a very uncivilized action brought about by HIV virus infecting his brains.


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I'm not siding on Magic on this one. He looks like a fool sabotaging Rob in the media. It seems like he is bitter or what.LMAO


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How can Magic buy the Lakers if AEG has right of first refusal -- and has to only buy 21% more to own the club.


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My guess is the real back stabbing he’s talking about was Pelinka saying MAGIC sucks balls at this job! He’s getting rid of all our players for nothing! So he felt back stabbed. But truth is, you did suck balls at your job Magic!


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Thank goodness that Magic is gone. That was a nightmare having him running things. He ran the team just like he coached the Lakes years ago....horrible! Perhaps the Lakes can finally get back on track.


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Go back 2 pages where I am describing what amounts to a conspiracy theory and 2 years where I left this site after explaining that Magic never had HIV. His situation has all of the hallmark qualities of a person being 'handled'. An athlete who was confronted with ultimatums due to his useful popularity and influence. His success and estimated worth of $500 million is no accident and not merely a function of his business prowess. Others have been taken down for similar reasons including Bill Cosby though Magic, perhaps naively, chose to play the game. How would someone else other than AEG buy the Lakers? Magic is aligned with the Manhattan based Guggenheim Family who I presume told him to get the value of the team lowered. With the Clips selling for $2.2B, the Lakers are worth at least twice that amount, so let's say $5B. "It's a goldmine," in his own words! If he can influence yet another season of decline which is highly probable, Jeannie and brothers will be coaxed to sell for $3.8B (a $1.2B savings) for example, and Magic will be awarded with 5-10% ownership assuming he co-invests a massive chunk of his own money. This is all prediction, but you heard it here first... Maybe some choice words between Philip Anschutz and the Gugs will happen off camera, though while the Lakers franchise is being placed into a trust, as a means of 'protecting' it, that magic word that's always used just before a rod is inserted up one's derriere', a sale will be easier to manipulate given that the Buss Family will become both the trustees and the beneficiaries holding a dying brand with Anshutz as the trustor. Anyone paying attention to the state of this....


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