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gemfow
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Tempy wrote:
Window of what? With or without LBJ the franchise was going to struggle to make the playoffs.
At least it would have been more fun to watch the young team grow together rather than have unrealistic expectations with Lebron and five guys on one-year contracts.


BaadMaster
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There is a myth-making problem here.

Myth #1 -- LeBron took a bunch of bums to the Finals year after year.

BUMS -- Sorry but he had DWade and Bosh in the Miami years and statistical superstar Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving in the Cleveland years. All this in a very weak East.

Myth #2 -- LeBron had the best statistical year in 2018-2019.

YEAHBUT -- He played little defense in order to accomplish this.

Myth #3 -- He is not slowing down.

EYE TEST -- Forget stats. The eye shows he has lost at least a step.

Myth #4 -- LeBron can defeat Father Time.

FATHER TIME -- Undefeated. Wilt, Ali, Jordan and Kobe learned this. LeBron is being schooled.

Myth #5 -- Any roleplayers will do.

ROBERT HORRY -- He might disagree.

Lakers have big problems cos Magic believes these myths.


hogball
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The problems in the Lakers team is Magic, Lebron and Walton. Magic should resign because of mismanagement. Walton should be replaced because of gross incompetence and Lebron should be traded as it creates issues in just appeasing him to the detriment of the young very talented players. Lets face it, Lebron is old and the fact that he is having good stats is because other players don't make his life miserable on the court out of respect of the great old man who they know is just trying hard.


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gemfow wrote:
At least it would have been more fun to watch the young team grow together rather than have unrealistic expectations with Lebron and five guys on one-year contracts.

Seldom do we agree, but these two are right on the money. The Lakers should never have gone after an aging LeBron. I never wanted LeBron to come to Los Angeles, BUT! there were many in this forum that really thought that LeBron was Gods gift to the sport of basketball and that he would take the young Lakers to the promise land.

Reason LeBron became such a super star is because he always got every player he wanted in the east coast and was surrounded by the best shooters etc etc. When he left for Miami that is when I started to dislike LeBron and I always thought that he was over rated. If he had not had a stacked team in Miami, he would have been just another good or better then average NBA player. JMHO!


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Tempy wrote:
Window of what? With or without LBJ the franchise was going to struggle to make the playoffs.

Window of everything. We just lost our first of 4+ years.

Point is I don’t give a F*** about James’ years. McMennamin is a douche for even titling a story that. As soon as I read the title I thought, “F**k James’ years! He’s wasting our time, not the other way around. He’s not bigger or more important than the team.


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JJCali wrote:
Window of everything. We just lost our first of 4+ years.

Point is I don’t give a F*** about James’ years. McMennamin is a douche for even titling a story that. As soon as I read the title I thought, “F**k James’ years! He’s wasting our time, not the other way around. He’s not bigger or more important than the team.

aging superstar hamstringing the franchise when they should be rebuilding, why am I getting deja Vu lol


Angeluus
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Tempy wrote:
aging superstar hamstringing the franchise when they should be rebuilding, why am I getting deja Vu lol

It's not going to change. All we can do is speculate on the next incompetent move these morons will make next. Buckle up for another complete disappointment this summer folks. Honestly, I think everyone at the Staples center should "boo" this complete disgrace for the remaining home games. Perhaps not the player's, but unquestionably the management.


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Axle wrote:
I think Magic has done a fine job so far. Don't get me wrong, I never liked LeBron for what he has done in the past, BUT he is a very good player and am glad he signed with the Lakers. I am really glad that Magic and Pelinka decided to keep Kuzma, Hart, and Ingram I believe. Not sure about Ingram because he was not mentioned on a report I read today, it just said he had suffered a blow to the head and was out for the concussion protocol. But I am glad he did not go for Kawhi because Popovich has made some bad comments about the no talent the Lakers have, and I say he is full of BS. If Kawhi really wants to be a Laker, then let him play one more season and become a free agent, then he can come and play for the Lakers and with LeBron. By then our youth movement will have more experience and will be much better to have a super team. Sign for this season free agents for one year contracts and that way your cap space will still be there when the one year contracts expire next year.

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So you never wanted LBJ to come to the Lakers but you are glad he signed with the Lakers?! Which is it?


Tempy
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Angeluus wrote:
It's not going to change. All we can do is speculate on the next incompetent move these morons will make next. Buckle up for another complete disappointment this summer folks. Honestly, I think everyone at the Staples center should "boo" this complete disgrace for the remaining home games. Perhaps not the player's, but unquestionably the management.

Yeah the whole rebuild has been a disaster in the making. Since the humiliation in Dallas the franchise has just spiralled. Nothing will change until competent people are put in position to make the relevant changes.

Rookie owners, rookie front office and rookie Coach, not sure what people are expecting the end result to be.


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Tempy wrote:
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Post #130

So you never wanted LBJ to come to the Lakers but you are glad he signed with the Lakers?! Which is it?

How many times do I have to spell it to you that I never have liked LeBron coming to the Lakers. But I was over ruled by you and a couple more in this forum that he was going to be great. OKKKKKKKKKK! Now it is proof that I was correct from the start. He can not save this Laker team at his age. This is a young team and he is used to getting or surrounding himself with the best shooter in the nba.

I did post that I was glad he had signed with the Lakers because I did not want to be the only one on this forum objecting to his arrival. So I decided to give you guys a chance to prove to me that I was wrong on LeBron. But in my heart I never liked him for what he has done in the past. And I still believe he is too old. Mother nature catches up with all these super stars. I saw that on my favorite player Kobe. Once he got injured he was not the same player.


Tempy
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Axle wrote:
How many times do I have to spell it to you that I never have liked LeBron coming to the Lakers. But I was over ruled by you and a couple more in this forum that he was going to be great. OKKKKKKKKKK! Now it is proof that I was correct from the start. He can not save this Laker team at his age. This is a young team and he is used to getting or surrounding himself with the best shooter in the nba.

I did post that I was glad he had signed with the Lakers because I did not want to be the only one on this forum objecting to his arrival. So I decided to give you guys a chance to prove to me that I was wrong on LeBron. But in my heart I never liked him for what he has done in the past. And I still believe he is too old. Mother nature catches up with all these super stars. I saw that on my favorite player Kobe. Once he got injured he was not the same player.

When did I ever say LBJ is a great signing, I gave you the link to the thread of him signing go read what I said lol


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Axle wrote:
How many times do I have to spell it to you that I never have liked LeBron coming to the Lakers. But I was over ruled by you and a couple more in this forum that he was going to be great. OKKKKKKKKKK! Now it is proof that I was correct from the start. He can not save this Laker team at his age. This is a young team and he is used to getting or surrounding himself with the best shooter in the nba.

I did post that I was glad he had signed with the Lakers because I did not want to be the only one on this forum objecting to his arrival. So I decided to give you guys a chance to prove to me that I was wrong on LeBron. But in my heart I never liked him for what he has done in the past. And I still believe he is too old. Mother nature catches up with all these super stars. I saw that on my favorite player Kobe. Once he got injured he was not the same player.

You’re kidding about the only one objecting to arrival part, right? More than half of us were not happy about him coming here. Probably more than that.


Angeluus
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JJCali wrote:
You’re kidding about the only one objecting to arrival part, right? More than half of us were not happy about him coming here. Probably more than that.

I have a confession. I was a little excited about the signing. Then, nothing else happened and the management made one terrible decision after the another. Unfortunately we have already blown through one of his remaining seasons and we appear to be a lottery team on the verge of a rebuild. Not a good spot for a declining Lebron. Really depressing if you ask me.


Tempy
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Angeluus wrote:
I have a confession. I was a little excited about the signing. Then, nothing else happened and the management made one terrible decision after the another. Unfortunately we have already blown through one of his remaining seasons and we appear to be a lottery team on the verge of a rebuild. Not a good spot for a declining Lebron. Really depressing if you ask me.

There was optimism that's for sure. It wasn't the worst signing in the world, it's all the other moves that were made. As you said, just terrible decisions.


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Well it is pretty depressing what has happened this season, BUT! it is not too late for next season. LeBron will still be here and hopefully he will completely recover from his groin injury, Keep the core of our young players: Kuzma, Hart, Ball and Ingram. The Lakers will have enough cap space to sign another super star or close to one. Then fill in the blanks with good roll players. We know that the four core players will get better and LeBron can just be LeBron and assist as much as possible. What if the Lakers can get a Kawhi, or a Durant. No! on AD because that would require a trade since he will still be under contract, but there are other players in the nba that are very good players. With good scouting and a line of BS from Magic, he should be able to draw another max player.

Believe me IF Magic does not go crazy trading away our young guys, this team still has great potential.

It is all on Magic's hands this summer. And I hope they retain Luke as the head coach. If they fire Luke, that will be a big mistake, and the Lakers will spiral downward with another new coach. Replacing coaches every year is dumb when you know that this team could have been something special IF the injuries had not occurred.


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Axle wrote:
Well it is pretty depressing what has happened this season, BUT! it is not too late for next season. LeBron will still be here and hopefully he will completely recover from his groin injury, Keep the core of our young players: Kuzma, Hart, Ball and Ingram. The Lakers will have enough cap space to sign another super star or close to one. Then fill in the blanks with good roll players. We know that the four core players will get better and LeBron can just be LeBron and assist as much as possible. What if the Lakers can get a Kawhi, or a Durant. No! on AD because that would require a trade since he will still be under contract, but there are other players in the nba that are very good players. With good scouting and a line of BS from Magic, he should be able to draw another max player.

Believe me IF Magic does not go crazy trading away our young guys, this team still has great potential.

It is all on Magic's hands this summer. And I hope they retain Luke as the head coach. If they fire Luke, that will be a big mistake, and the Lakers will spiral downward with another new coach. Replacing coaches every year is dumb when you know that this team could have been something special IF the injuries had not occurred.

KD has an option for next season. If he doesn't exercise it he will be a FA. So technically he could be one of the FA available. But no way he's coming here.


BaadMaster
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Let me state this for the record. I liked signing LeBron. I did caution about him, at his age, being injury prone. But I assumed Magic would use the formula LeBron always used --surround him with shooters. From Kevin Love to Kyrie to even Mike Miller, he had players who could drain threes.

I thought Kuzma would become Kobe 2.0; I did not expect him to fall apart after the trade rumors surfaced.

In fact, I never thought any organization would ever negotiate such a deal in public. Did anyone here know about PG13 signing with OKC until he actually did?

So Magic got his albeit aging superstar, and failed to sign the players LeBron needed. Like JJ Reddick or even Reggie Bullock (a bit late though) who are the types of players LeBron needs.

I am not sure all is lost but the pressure is on Magic to do......Magic!


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JJCali wrote:
You’re kidding about the only one objecting to arrival part, right? More than half of us were not happy about him coming here. Probably more than that.

I think quite a few were displeased or was giving the situation the side eye. I didn't post, but I preferred if we just grew organically and not take the quick way out. Most posers on this forum wanted the same.


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lakerdudeinindy wrote:
I think quite a few were displeased or was giving the situation the side eye. I didn't post, but I preferred if we just grew organically and not take the quick way out. Most posers on this forum wanted the same.
It's all fine and well to say this stuff now. I didn't want LBJ either and always spoke against him coming here. Always despised the guy myself. But at the same time, we do NOT have enough talent to get very far with the young guys we have. So I get the need was there to do something. None....


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i would never become a clipper fan LAKERS 4 life..Its been a long drought as for winning and competing.i believe BALL KUZMA INGRAM should stay as well as LUKE.Nobody complained when the team was healthy and winning.its on MAGIC to get the players that best suit the team without destroying it,The young kids lost focus when they were mentioned in trade talks.now they know its business. LEBRON ,hopefully he comes back health and accept that he's an aging warrior,The Lakers have enough cap space to get what they need if they don't go nuts trying for that MAX guy


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lakerdudeinindy wrote:
I think quite a few were displeased or was giving the situation the side eye. I didn't post, but I preferred if we just grew organically and not take the quick way out. Most posers on this forum wanted the same.

Thank you!


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Shepherd wrote:
It's all fine and well to say this stuff now. I didn't want LBJ either and always spoke against him coming here. Always despised the guy myself. But at the same time, we do NOT have enough talent to get very far with the young guys we have. So I get the need was there to do something. None of our young players are considered star material. Including Randle and Russ when they were here. And even now. They're all potentially decent pieces, but not stars. In the NBA you can't win without stars. Will any of them ever get....


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