Lakers at Boston Celtics Game Day 2019-02-07 (P. 3)

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Axle
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Greatest come back from the Lakers in a long time. I guess Kuz got my message and started hitting his shots again. LOL!

Glad they beat the Celtics.


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Rondo is so Smart, his awareness is off the charts, knowing what's left on the clock. Huge tap by Tyson.


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BI has to get his $hit together plain and simple.


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Rondo is so Smart, his awareness is off the charts, knowing what's left on the clock. Huge tap by Tyson.

I think he'll make a good coach someday.


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Beating the celtics feels like 10 game win streak!


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Kids aren't too bad after all huh

Except for BI, who's playing style I don't think fits on this team.


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Yea! Ingram was not into the game tonight. He had been playing pretty good, but not tonight. Fact none of the Lakers played good the first half except Rondo and Stephson, but the second half Kuz, KCP, McGee stepped up their game and the rest is history.

Hope the Lakers start practicing those free throw shots though. If they had made some of those, they would have won by much more.


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If they can somehow pull this off, this would be the turning point in this season...considering what they’ve been through.

Amen.....lmao!!!!!


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This is exactly what we need playing together as a team been through a lot of crap for the last couple of days now it's time to start stop blaming people and start coming together as a team and playing the rest of the season


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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
Amen.....lmao!!!!!

Big win!


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I think he'll make a good coach someday.

Heard he called guys yesterday, 10 people came in, even no practice and gave them pep talk. We might not need Luke after all.


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Kuz/ Rondo game ball. BI you're garbage.

Let’s give the king some props as well for his triple double 28/12/12. Almost everyone has been bashing him recently. Lol.


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Heard he called guys yesterday, 10 people came in, even no practice and gave them pep talk. We might not need Luke after all.

I’ve been saying make him player /coach after Luke goes to Cancun. Lol.


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ralppcobarde wrote:
Heard he called guys yesterday, 10 people came in, even no practice and gave them pep talk. We might not need Luke after all.

Sounds like a leader to me.


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BI has to get his $hit together plain and simple.

When he’s off he’s unbearable to watch. Like a headless chicken running around in circles. Very happy to see Kuz come big in a pressure situation game. He seemed to be the one who looked most depressed during the trade talks, so it was nice to see him putting it behind him and showing some mental fortitude.

Glad to see the leprechaun azz getting kicked.


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Let’s give the king some props as well for his triple double 28/12/12. Almost everyone has been bashing him recently. Lol.

Had know idea he had a triple double......Props.


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The most clutch game by the King.he still owns Boston.


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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
Amen.....lmao!!!!!

lmaoo happybeer


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ralppcobarde wrote:
The most clutch game by the King.he still owns Boston.


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Irving played like he doesn't want to play for celdicks lol


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Roflll its always fun when celdicks lose


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Irving played like he doesn't want to play for celdicks lol

I’ll take him in the off season. Lol


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Is it me or did BI have about six straight games where he balled out and got minimal props, then had an off night and everyone’s bashing him? I’ve been a critic of BI but dude gets some undeserved hate here, especially with a good night passing the ball (and second highest +- on our team for those who care), including the one to Kuz towards the end


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I have no idea why I watched from beginning to end and I am glad I did.

The end looked like they got the team back the way they celebrated.

I stand by my Kobe 2.0 moniker for Kuz and I hope I am proven right. If I am, it is great he doesn't do it in a Plicans uniform.

This was a fun game to watch!


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TimmyDoe wrote:
Is it me or did BI have about six straight games where he balled out and got minimal props, then had an off night and everyone’s bashing him? I’ve been a critic of BI but dude gets some undeserved hate here, especially with a good night passing the ball (and second highest +- on our team for those who care), including the one to Kuz towards the end

Confirmation bias. It only comes up when it proves a person's point. At the same time Ingram was second lowest with -31 the other night against the pacers lol

The guy is no where near a finished product. As KK said earlier, I just don't think he is a player suited to play with LBJ.


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Idk I feel like people get too caught up in points. Yes obviously Kuzma scoring was very important but BI defense helped too. Look at kyries Quote. I think he was 2-7 guarded by Bi. BI is much better on D than Kuzma so I’ll take it


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Idk I feel like people get too caught up in points. Yes obviously Kuzma scoring was very important but BI defense helped too. Look at kyries Quote. I think he was 2-7 guarded by Bi. BI is much better on D than Kuzma so I’ll take it
Here you go. It’s ok, we bash Kuz a lot as well...and Hart and Zo and even Lebron. Let’s stop these “don’t bash” (insert favorite players) rants. This is not meant for you in particular, but applies to the larger audience in general. Fans will be fans. Fans are not robots....


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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
Here you go.

It’s ok, we bash Kuz a lot as well...and Hart and Zo and even Lebron. Let’s stop these “don’t bash” (insert favorite players) rants. This is not meant for you in particular, but applies to the larger audience in general. Fans will be fans. Fans are not robots programmed to respond in a flawless or regimental manner. Neither are fans blind to what’s happening out there. Lol. At the end of the day fans praise those deserve it and conversely call those out who put up stink bombs. It all evens out eventually.

We can atleast agree that SOME fans disappear when certain players come to play, and their favorite player puts up said stink bombs...right?


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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
Let’s give the king some props as well for his triple double 28/12/12. Almost everyone has been bashing him recently. Lol.

That goes without saying, he's the reason for most of their wins and the reason they're not at top 5 in lottery race right now.


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TimmyDoe wrote:
Is it me or did BI have about six straight games where he balled out and got minimal props, then had an off night and everyone’s bashing him? I’ve been a critic of BI but dude gets some undeserved hate here, especially with a good night passing the ball (and second highest +- on our team for those who care), including the one to Kuz towards the end

As I said earlier, he was garbage TONIGHT. But I still think he doesn't fit on this team, unless he can adjust his playing style.


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There are 3 very talented players who are sure to be superstars, Kuzma, Ingram and Ball. Ingram should face the reality that fast tracking his way to stardom is bringing nowhere but down. He should learn to listen and stop thinking that he is the best among the young core. He should focus on perimeter and pull up jumpers which he was outstanding during his collegiate games but should not rush this development

and instead let it come to him. As for Ball. slowly but surely his brilliance is coming out specially prior to his recent injury. What these talented youngsters need is encouragement to nurture their confidence, most specially Kuzma and Ball who always go out of their way to seek advise to improve their play, they study and research. No wonder they took it very

hard when the rumors circulated about them being traded and affected their game.

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hogball wrote:
There are 3 very talented players who are sure to be superstars, Kuzma, Ingram and Ball. Ingram should face the reality that fast tracking his way to stardom is bringing nowhere but down. He should learn to listen and stop thinking that he is the best among the young core. He should focus on perimeter and pull up jumpers which he was outstanding during his collegiate games but should not rush this development

and instead let it come to him. As for Ball. slowly but surely his brilliance is coming out specially prior to his recent injury. What these talented youngsters need is encouragement to nurture their confidence, most specially Kuzma and Ball who always go out of their way to seek advise to improve their play, they study and research. No wonder they took it very

hard when the rumors circulated about them being traded and affected their game.

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Don't know about superstars, I still don't see it personally but than again it would depend on what you classified as a superstar, But it's definitely possible. As far as Zo, I keep hearing it's just the opposite and his work ethic and love of the game are in question( hearing that from outside off team, but also hearing teams like Suns and Pels would love to have him anyways).


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hogball wrote:
There are 3 very talented players who are sure to be superstars, Kuzma, Ingram and Ball....

Agreed about Ball and Kuzma. Tonight, on the big stage, in Boston, Kuzma scored 20 points in the second half AND the critical three -- miss that and go home. If that is not superstar level basketball, I don't know what is. Kobe 2.0! Thank the basketball Gods he is not in New Orleans.

As to Zo, he puts up triple doubles almost every game. Yes, he has to improve his shooting. But he has all the super star tools. Especially on the defensive end.

As to BI, who can tell. Maybe yes, maybe no.

As they say, sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make.

Addendum: I wish we kept Zu.


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As I said earlier, he was garbage TONIGHT. But I still think he doesn't fit on this team, unless he can adjust his playing style.

Didn’t mean to call anyone out in particular. But I notice a trend where BI would do good things, have a stretch where he’s played consistently, surpassing expectations even. And yet, fans are loudest when he’s bad, and when he’s having those good games, it’s radio silence. No praise, nothing.

I wholly agree that he doesn’t fit with Lebron right now. I’ve been saying that Lebron’s presence has hindered BI and masked his actual ability. But without Lebron’s he’s averaged 20-5-5 (I think, don’t quote me), yet no one wants to talk about that. Maybe it’s just me.


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Don't know about superstars, I still don't see it personally but than again it would depend on what you classified as a superstar, But it's definitely possible. As far as Zo, I keep hearing it's just the opposite and his work ethic and love of the game are in question( hearing that from outside off team, but also hearing teams like Suns and Pels would love to have him anyways).

Idk if I buy that about Zo. No one plays like he does and doesn’t love the game. He’s naturally a quiet guy, so I believe he’s an easy target for those labels. I think his biggest problem right now is his dad.

His dad gave him haters. Hes only 21 but will get scrutinized for every single brick and missed FT he puts up. In practice videos and back at UCLA his shot was never an issue, all of a sudden Lavar starts saying absurd things while Zo was still at UCLA, the rest is history. He’s had a brilliant stretch of games prior to his injury where he looked like a true point guard, a floor leader. Yet many people around the league will ONLY pay attention to his scoring deficiencies and disregard everything else. That kind of hate could weigh someone down, especially a kid not even two seasons into his career yet


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Idk if I buy that about Zo. No one plays like he does and doesn’t love the game. He’s naturally a quiet guy, so I believe he’s an easy target for those labels. I think his biggest problem right now is his dad.

His dad gave him haters. He Is only 21 but will get scrutinized for every single brick and missed FT he puts up. In practice videos and back at UCLA his shot was never an issue, all of a sudden Lavar starts saying absurd things while Zo was still at UCLA, the rest is history. He’s had a brilliant stretch of games prior to his injury where he looked like a true point guard, a floor leader. Yet many people around the league will ONLY pay attention to his scoring deficiencies and disregard everything else. That kind of hate could weigh someone down, especially a kid not even two seasons into his career yet

Actually was hearing that coming from sports radio here, and people that like him. Don't know if I by the work ethic thing, simply because he's been injured so much and hasn't really had the time. Love of the game, I could see where people have questions. At times he looks like his mind is a million miles away during game.


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Actually was hearing that coming from sports radio here, and people that like him. Don't know if I by the work ethic thing, simply because he's been injured so much and hasn't really had the time. Love of the game, I could see where people have questions. At times he looks like his mind is a million miles away during game.

Idk if you saw Lavar on fox yesterday. He kept blaming Luke for messing with Lonzo’s confidence and yanking him in the 4th quarters. I know Lavar is a loud mouthed gasbag at times but he was not totally off the mark as far as Luke’s handling of Zo was concerned. Somehow we cannot seem to be able to develop youngsters. Youngsters on other teams seem to be much ahead on the learning curve.

FWIW, We should keep an eye on Jeb Buechler. I was very impressed with him last season and how he coached the team in the summer league. I know it’s summer league and all...but I liked how he handled the resources. He’s now with the suns as an assistant, if I’m not mistaken.


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Idk if you saw Lavar on fox yesterday. He kept blaming Luke for messing with Lonzo’s confidence and yanking him in the 4th quarters. I know Lavar is a loud mouthed gasbag at times but he was not totally off the mark as far as Luke’s handling of Zo was concerned. Somehow we cannot seem to be able to develop youngsters. Youngsters on other teams seem to be much ahead on the learning curve.

FWIW, We should keep an eye on Jeb Buechler. I was very impressed with him last season and how he coached the team in the summer league. I know it’s summer league and all...but I liked how he handled the resources. He’s now with the suns as an assistant, if I’m not mistaken.

I hear you, but think we have to face the fact that when they signed Lebron, it became win now mode. And youngsters develop isn't #1 thing.

There going to have to find away to fit in , while they develop. And deal with the pressure of being on team with Lebron. Think Kuz will be fine, think Zo needs to or has to become more aggressive and demand ball. BI I'm not sure about, going to have to be more of a spot up shooter, than iso player.

Honestly think Luke gets bad rap, don't agree with everything he does, but never see him get credit for wins on here, just he needs to be fired after every loss. He was the coach that had team at 4th seed before all the injuries.

Oh, side note. Leading radio guy here is John Gambo, guy has a lot of connections around the league's. Anyway he was saying that he's hearing from sources that the reason Lavar was so quiet lately was he might have been getting a little $$$ from lakers to shut up. But that went out window when Zo came up in trades. Lmao if true!!!


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I hear you, but think we have to face the fact that when they signed Lebron, it became win now mode. And youngsters develop isn't #1 thing.

There going to have to find away to fit in , while they develop. And deal with the pressure of being on team with Lebron. Think Kuz will be fine, think Zo needs to or has to become more aggressive and demand ball. BI I'm not sure about, going to have to be more of a spot up shooter, than iso player.

Honestly think Luke gets bad rap, don't agree with everything he does, but never see him get credit for wins on here, just he needs to be fired after every loss. He was the coach that had team at 4th seed before all the injuries.

Oh, side note. Leading radio guy here is John Gambo, guy has a lot of connections around the league's. Anyway he was saying that he's hearing from sources that the reason Lavar was so quiet lately was he might have been getting a little $$$ from lakers to shut up. But that went out window when Zo came up in trades. Lmao if true!!!

We have touched upon (several times) the predicament Luke finds himself in. I understand the fact that he has been made to develop and “win now” after we signed Lebron. In fact I have backed the coach several times as I know he didn’t purchase the groceries.

With that being said there was no Lebron on the team last year when Randle was benched for almost half the season and Nance was preferred in the starting lineup. Lonzo used to get 15/18 mins pt while getting benched in the 4th quarters. Laker fans always got frustrated when they saw this. There is no semblance of an offensive system and they seem out of whack while executing the so called half court sets. The floor spacing sucks and there is no player movement or back door cuts which are visible during the course of the game. When players are in a funk you need to design some set plays early on to boost their confidence/morale.

I have backed the coach on various threads on the forum and given him due credit, but I cannot ignore or condone some of the coaching crimes I witness. It’s not a coincidence, that our players flourish when they go to another team. Player development falls on both the front office and the coaches. We rightly call the front office out but we cannot give the coach a courtesy pass. We were ultra critical of Byron and his archaic coaching methodology, we need to use the same yardstick for Luke as well.


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