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I'm expecting the worst, 10 games out will be max for Lebron. He hasn’t encountered groin injury yet, had to be cautious. At the same time, we really need a scorer aside from Kuz because BI is looking like a glorified BUST

I think LBJ, Ad, Ball, McGee and Lance would be a decent starting lineup...better than the junk we currently have. Kuz and BI are insta models, they can make the recent fashion statements in New Orleans.

Rondo off the bench would be perfect.


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Refs are ridiculous tonight as well. Left is right. White is purple. The sequence where Kuz got the charge proved it in my eyes. That was a clear charge but it took them a full second to decide to blow the whistle


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ralppcobarde wrote:
I'm expecting the worst, 10 games out will be max for Lebron. He hasn’t encountered groin injury yet, had to be cautious. At the same time, we really need a scorer aside from Kuz because BI is looking like a glorified BUST

We will probably win 1-2 of your estimated 10 games. This team is worthless in it's current form.


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Guys showing some signs of life here.


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Ingram 5/11 FT’s frustrating


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Lord BI isn’t a bust you guys kill me with that, he has to develop everyone isn’t like Lebron, melo, wade some take 4-5yrs to figure it out. Now I don’t think he is a superstar #1 or 2. I think he is Lamar Odom a Tony kukoc. A guy that can thrive as a #3 option but certain matchups dominate.

Though I get the frustration, we want to win now.

If we can sign another superstar without trading our core pieces for 1 we’re going to be unstoppable because guys like BI, & Lonzo are unselfish. kuzma is slowly getting that mamba mentality


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No one is trading a superstar to LAL in particular. Get used to our core. They can only get better.


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No one is trading a superstar to LAL in particular. Get used to our core. They can only get better.

They seem to get worse. I love your optimism though.


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This loss sucks man 20-16 we are out of the spot.


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BI is garbage. Dude is a bum


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^^^

Yep....


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TimmyDoe wrote:
No one is trading a superstar to LAL in particular. Get used to our core. They can only get better.

Thank you �'�🏽�'��'& #2013266090;🏽 Our core outside of Lebron is under 25. Most don’t know how to win or play championship level basketball. As long as I see this team growing I’m fine.


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Angeluus wrote:
They seem to get worse. I love your optimism though.

They were playing well last year, Ingram was closing out games well, Kuz played more or less the same, Hart proved himself as well. LeBron doesn't make everyone better. His high usage makes it easy for our guys to sit back and watch, rendering them unprepared when he isn't around, the same thing happened to his Cavaliers, twice.

Whatever the case, without LeBron we're a rebuilding team. With LeBron we're supposed to be contenders. I think our unique position as a whole team makes the fans even more antsy than usual.


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Ingram 5/11 FT’s frustrating

I don’t get it, his form isn’t bad he just can’t make em man 😤


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TimmyDoe wrote:
They were playing well last year, Ingram was closing out games well, Kuz played more or less the same, Hart proved himself as well. LeBron doesn't make everyone better. His high usage makes it easy for our guys to sit back and watch, rendering them unprepared when he isn't around, the same thing happened to his Cavaliers, twice.

Whatever the case, without LeBron we're a rebuilding team. With LeBron we're supposed to be contenders. I think our unique position as a whole team makes the fans even more antsy than usual.

The current team that we can't win without Lebron is absurd. Letting a 15pt lead slip away and 10pt lead is getting really ridiculous.


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I don’t get it, his form isn’t bad he just can’t make em man 😤

His shot is always long. He needs to back off from the line and shoot it like T-Mac used too.


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I don't see any growth from BI. Only his hair though.


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I remember everyone call Lamar a Bum I remember we wanted to trade him for, Artest, Rashad Lewis. I remember we felt he wasn’t the Robin to kobe’s Batman & what happened �" we got Pau & Lamar thrives as a #3 option


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Lamar benefited from Pau. If it wasn't for Pau, we already shipped his a** out for somebody that time. People expect him to be a 2nd option, which he didnt live up to, same way BI is experiencing right now.

Lamar moved to 3rd option and was relieved from pressure and he step up. BI hasnt lived to expectations so far in his 3rd year and there’s no excuse missing wide open gimmie layups and free throws and expect fans to be on his back.


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I don't see any growth from BI. Only his hair though.

That’s because he’s a rhythm scorer a slasher he needs the ball in his hands in order to get things going. Playing with Lebron makes him & Lonzo, another guy who is a playmaker who game is up & down, a adjustment. Lebron does everything on the team it’s hard for a player to grow


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Lamar benefited from Pau. If it wasn't for Pau, we already shipped his a** out for somebody that time.

Right that’s how I see Brandon Ingram game to me Ingram at best will be a 18-22 pt scorer if he can improve his FT%.

I see a future defensive stopper/ Point forward


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We should have won last night. I can't say I expected us to have a chance tonight on the tail end of a back to back coming home from the road. The more the guys play without Bron though the more theyll learn. I expect a roaring win on Sunday.


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Waiting for magic and LBJ to pounce upon the trade once AD goes public about wanting out. Doesn’t matter what you and I think, this is gonna go down pretty soon. Hopefully we are still in the playoff hunt.


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Just thinking we couldve had PG if we give up Ingram. Crapp!!!!


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Waiting for magic and LBJ to pounce upon the trade once AD goes public about wanting out. Doesn’t matter what you or I think, this is gonna go down pretty soon. Hopefully we are still in the playoff hunt.

Can't wait. Ill throw in Hart,Kuz,BI,Pope,2 picks and even Zubee LOL


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I smell Luke firing soon. 22-0 run is unacceptable. I wouldve risked playing Kuzma to start the 4th atleast.


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Can't wait. Ill throw in Hart,Kuz,BI,Pope,2 picks and even Zubee LOL

As long as Zo isn't included, go for it...lol.


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Just thinking we couldve had PG if we give up Ingram. Crapp!!!!

And KAwhi. Some thought Bi would be better than KAwhi. D-oh..!!! Lol


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As long as Zo isn't included, go for it...lol.

Same here brother! Lol.


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Been hearing Carlisle might be the next coach to be fired.Fans tuning him up for his inability to have the last play drawn on Luka. Can we trade coach? LMAO


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Ingram 0 assists, you Kobe?


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I don’t even mind reaching out to Phil...j/k...I think. Lmao


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And KAwhi. Some thought Bi would be better than KAwhi. D-oh..!!! Lol

Man I was one of those. Boy I was wrong.


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Man I was one of those. Boy I was wrong.

I was also on the bandwagon for sometime. Lol.


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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
I was also on the bandwagon for sometime. Lol.

LOL!!!


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Quite amazing seeing Rondo on the sidelines the same evening after he had his surgery. He was speaking to the guys and even high fiving them. I would really keep him here till the end of his career. In fact I am tinkering with the idea of offering him a coach/player role. If they fire Luke, screw everyone else and give him the job. He’s already calling all the plays and is literally a coach on the floor. Lonzo would benefit greatly along with the others.


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Zubac was 1/8 today....back to garbage time guest appearances. Lol.


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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
Quite amazing seeing Rondo on the sidelines the same evening after he had his surgery. He was speaking to the guys and even high fiving them. I would really keep him here till the end of his career. In fact I am tinkering with the idea of offering him a coach/player role. If they fire Luke, screw everyone else and give him the job. He’s already calling all the plays and is literally a coach on the floor. Lonzo would benefit greatly along with the others.

I read on B/R that BI said he was going to play more of his style of play since LBJ was out. Guess that says it all.


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And KAwhi. Some thought Bi would be better than KAwhi. D-oh..!!! Lol

If I’m not mistaken the spurs wanted the whole farm to trade Kawhi to LA they wanted Ingram or kuzma,+ Hart & multiple 1st round picks


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As long as Zo isn't included, go for it...lol.

Still not entirely understanding what you see in him. I remember last night asking you about it with the inappropriate response of, "Man, GTFOH". Not sure of your age, so I will let that one go. I know this may be difficult to comprehend, but you are not the only one with an opinion on Lonzo Ball.

Look, I am all about waiting to see how this kid pans out, but from what I have seen thus far, I am not impressed at all. I have to to admit, I do notice that he has an extremely high game IQ and he plays the most unselfish basketball I have seen in a long time. I also notice his defensive skills are excellent on most nights. Every once in awhile I will see a glimmer of hope from him to be typically followed by a series of terrible games. I don't think he is the worst PG in the league by far, but I don't consider him to be the untouchable franchise player of our future as it appears you do. I don't know, maybe I wrong.


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Still not entirely understanding what you see in him. I remember last night asking you about it with the inappropriate response of, "Man, GTFOH". Not sure of your age, so I will let that one go. I know this may be difficult to comprehend, but you are not the only one with an opinion on Lonzo Ball.

Look, I am all about waiting to see how this kid pans out, but from what I have seen thus far, I am not impressed at all. I have to to admit, I do notice that he has an extremely high game IQ and he plays the most unselfish basketball I have seen in a long time. I also notice his defensive skills are excellent on most nights. Every once in awhile I will see a glimmer of hope from him to be typically followed by a series of terrible games. I don't think he is the worst PG in the league by far, but I don't consider him to be the untouchable franchise player of our future as it appears you do. I don't know, maybe I wrong.

It’s because Lonzo’s skills that he possesses can't be taught: IQ,Passing,Awareness,Instinct, creates unselfish culture & Defense. Scoring & shooting can be improved as you aged. Out of all the young core with Kuz being 23 then 24 suddenly by next season, Ingram is 21 but he is an ISO player which doesn't fit in this league anymore,both can't shoot free throws, Hart will be most likely a role player at best.

They’re number of guys in the league who can do what he does being a 21 yr old? Not so much. In Kings game, he controlled the game for the most part but he got cramped.

People get caught up on highlights as it is like Harden,Fox etc. But he aint for highlights or showboat . He plays to win and make the right play. His maturity at that age cant be taught. His best play with much more minutes are ahead of him.


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It’s because Lonzo’s skills that he possesses can't be taught: IQ,Passing,Awareness,Instinct, creates unselfish culture & Defense. Scoring & shooting can be improved as you aged. Out of all the young core with Kuz being 23 then 24 suddenly by next season, Ingram is 21 but he is an ISO player which doesn't fit in this league anymore,both can't shoot free throws, Hart will be most likely a role player at best.

They’re number of guys in the league who can do what he does being a 21 yr old? Not so much. In Kings game, he controlled the game for the most part but he got cramped.

People get caught up on highlights as it is like Harden,Fox etc. But he ain't for highlights or showboat. He plays to win and make the right play. His maturity at that age can't be taught. His best play with much more minutes are ahead of him.

I get what your saying, but in a league filled with three point shooters and players who can actually make free throws, his style doesn't fit this team. We NEED offense from him unfortunately due to our lack of shooters. If he is the franchise player you all consider him to be, than we need to build a team around him which I am against. I'd rather trade him if the package is right. We just don't see eye to eye on that and that's fine. That's what's great about this forum. We all have our own opinions and I wish some of you would get that.


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Angeluus wrote:
Still not entirely understanding what you see in him. I remember last night asking you about it with the inappropriate response of, "Man, GTFOH". Not sure of your age, so I will let that one go. I know this may be difficult to comprehend, but you are not the only one with an opinion on Lonzo Ball.

Look, I am all about waiting to see how this kid pans out, but from what I have seen thus far, I am not impressed at all. I have to to admit, I do notice that he has an extremely high game IQ and he plays the most unselfish basketball I have seen in a long time. I also notice his defensive skills are excellent on most nights. Every once in awhile I will see a glimmer of hope from him to be typically followed by a series of terrible games. I don't think he is the worst PG in the league by far, but I don't consider him to be the untouchable franchise player of our future as it appears you do. I don't know, maybe I wrong.

Beat it dude. I care less about your opinion. Can't you tell. Move on.


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If I’m not mistaken the spurs wanted the whole farm to trade Kawhi to LA they wanted Ingram or kuzma,+ Hart & multiple 1st round picks

I’m willing to give up a pack of headless chickens for a tiger. If I knew it would only take: the black hole/ volume shooting Kuzma + 70’s hippie era drug addict BI and reckless Tasmanian Devil Hart..I would do it with my eyes closed. Subsequently I would come inside and laugh my heart out when no one was looking.

Give up quarters for a dollar.


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^^^

The only thing that would've really ticked me off is that if we had done it and KL walked to the Clips...lol. Talk about being furious...lol.


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The only thing that would've really ticked me off is that if we had done it and KL walked to the Clips...lol. Talk about being furious...lol.

I think they would have reached some sort of understanding before going ahead. I remember listening to Chris Carter on 1st things 1st and he was quite adamant that Kawhi wanted to be a laker. CC knows the uncle very well and they are literally like family. At one point CC was the official spokesperson for the Kawhi camp. Lol.

I think once he got traded to Toronto the equation changed slightly and he expanded his options. Just like the PG debacle we cannot assume they will come to the lakers. I think magic needs to start taking some calculated risks and make things happen rather than wait for things to happen. People talk about the core being gutted. KAwhi is just 26-27 if I’m not mistaken and Ad is 25. Just a couple of years older than Hart and Kuz. Lol.

I’m still hoping we land both KAwhi and AD, although the former is looking more like a pipe dream.


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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
I’m willing to give up a pack of headless chickens for a tiger. If I knew it would only take: the black hole/ volume shooting Kuzma + 70’s hippie era drug addict BI and reckless Tasmanian Devil Hart..I would do it with my eyes closed. Subsequently I would come inside and laugh my heart out when no one was looking.

Give up quarters for a dollar.

Haha I dunno that sounds a bit harsh. Kuzma is starting to pass the ball more. Ingram has the tools to be a very good defender. I think his focus needs to shift from offense to defense, and the points will come more naturally. The team as a whole needs to focus more on defense, because there is plenty of length of quickness to defend. Get the stops, and everyone knows how good the guys are in transition.


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userpete1037 wrote:
Beat it dude. I care less about your opinion. Can't you tell. Move on.

Obviously a child. I took you off ignore because I thought you may have something substantive to add. Apparently not. Back to ignore you go.


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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
I think they would have reached some sort of understanding before going ahead. I remember listening to Chris Carter on 1st things 1st and he was quite adamant that Kawhi wanted to be a laker. CC knows the uncle very well and they are literally like family. At one point CC was the official spokesperson for the Kawhi camp. Lol.

I think once he got traded to Toronto the equation changed slightly and he expanded his options. Just like the PG debacle we cannot assume they will come to the lakers. I think magic needs to start taking some calculated risks and make things happen rather than wait for things to happen. People talk about the core being gutted. KAwhi is just 26-27 if I’m not mistaken and Ad is 25. Just a couple of years older than Hart and Kuz. Lol.

I’m still hoping we land both KAwhi and AD, although the former is looking more like a pipe dream.

Well I hope he doesn't hold it against us like PG did because we didn't trade for him. Time will tell.


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Obviously a child. I took you off ignore because I thought you may have something substantive to add. Apparently not. Back to ignore you go.

Thank you brother or sister. It's not like I engaged you. Thanks again.


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