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The irony of Butler wanting out of Minnesota and the Lakers basically having nothing to get in to trade discussions, without giving up parts of the young core.

The irony being Luol Dengs contract immediately gets you close to his $20 mill deal. Obviously we can't judge the move until next summer when they can actually use that money Deng freed up.

I'd certainly prefer Butler on the roster over KCP/Rondo/Stephenson.

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The irony of Butler wanting out of Minnesota and the Lakers basically having nothing to get in to trade discussions, without giving up parts of the young core. The irony being Luol Dengs contract immediately gets you close to his $20 mill deal. Obviously we can't judge the move until next summer when they can actually use that money Deng freed up. I'd certainly prefer Butler on the roster over KCP/Rondo/Stephenson.
While I'd prefer someone over Stephenson/ KCP, like the Rondo signing. But wouldn't touch Butler, all I've read since he came into league, is he's a locker room cancer. But one downside....

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While I'd prefer someone over Stephenson/ KCP, like the Rondo signing. But wouldn't touch Butler, all I've read since he came into league, is he's a locker room cancer.

But one downside to him rumored to not want Lakers is Clippers could get Kawhi if he goes there.

Didn't people say the same about Rondo lol.

It's interesting though, with LBJ here it seems like others don't want to be second fiddle to him. Similar to post prime Kobe.

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Didn't people say the same about Rondo lol.

It's interesting though, with LBJ here it seems like others don't want to be second fiddle to him. Similar to post prime Kobe.

Let's hope not!!! I'm hoping for Thompson, but most of all hoping for young guys to make a big jump this season.

Also find it interesting that Butler pretty much has all losing team at top of list, granted they'll have cap space, but don't see him leading a team anywhere if he's the best player. Imo

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Sure it may be true Butler doesn’t want to be 2nd fiddle to Lebron, but in reality we can’t /shouldn’t trade for him right now.

Due to not having contracts To make it work, we are not giving up 2 young pieces for him in a trade.

Butler and his Agent knows this already, so why even list us an option right now. Even if he said I only want lakers, we still can’t/wouldn’t trade for him right now.

See the thing is Clippers has no team if they trade for Butler. So Butler and Kwahi, with a bunch of scrubs is not going to win anything in this league.

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Maybe he just wants the money. And btw, Thompson is not signing here. Might as well say Curry or Simmons. Not gonna happen. He's already come out and said he's staying put. Unless you guys want to get your hopes up again like with George...

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Doesn't look likely. I think whoever said other top players won't want to come here now to play 2nd fiddle to LBJ, the way they didn't before with KB23, may be right... Yet somehow other teams like HOU and GSW have managed to get top players to come together in harmony to play for chips. Just doesn't seem to happen in LA. Not since Showtime anyways. Makes me wonder why Kawhi would want to come here. He may be another one who wants to be first fiddle on a team. Either way, it's official, Butler wants out of Minny. I see him going....

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Just wait until the end of season and go after KD, Kawhi or Klay. Dam, all three of their names start with a K!!!!!.....lmao.

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How we do this season will determine who wants I come here next year. If we blow the doors off and go to the Western Finals, I think players that may not want to come now, will take -2nd look. But if we are total mess, then maybe our drama. Filled in the spotlight team doesn’t pull nobody in next summer.

Also i do not think it’s a forgone conclusion Klay stays with GSW. He took a pay cut last time, Curry just got paid, Durant will get paid. Draymond basically said he’s getting his money on his next deal.

Are the GSW about to pay that kind of money? If they pay their 4 guys, their rooster will be 250 -300 mil each year. That’s crazy. So we will see.

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Doesn't look likely. I think whoever said other top players won't want to come here now to play 2nd fiddle to LBJ, the way they didn't before with KB23, may be right... Yet somehow other teams like HOU and GSW have managed to get top players to come together in harmony to play for chips. Just doesn't seem to happen in LA. Not since Showtime anyways. Makes me wonder why Kawhi would want to come here. He may be another one who wants to be first fiddle on a team. Either way, it's official, Butler wants out of Minny. I see him going....

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Maybe he just wants the money. And btw, Thompson is not signing here. Might as well say Curry or Simmons. Not gonna happen. He's already come out and said he's staying put. Unless you guys want to get your hopes up again like with George...

Looks like Dad wants him too, 1st time he's said that publicly.

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How we do this season will determine who wants I come here next year. If we blow the doors off and go to the Western Finals, I think players that may not want to come now, will take -2nd look. But if we are total mess, then maybe our drama. Filled in the spotlight team doesn’t pull nobody in next summer.

Also i do not think it’s a forgone conclusion Klay stays with GSW. He took a pay cut last time, Curry just got paid, Durant will get paid. Draymond basically said he’s getting his money on his next deal.

Are the GSW about to pay that kind of money? If they pay their 4 guys, their rooster will be 250 -300 mil each year. That’s crazy. So we will see.

In August this year Thompson said he wanted to be a warrior for life.

If the warriors are serious about winning they know they need to keep this core together. It is far more likely he stays with the Warriors than it is for him to sign for the Lakers.

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Looks like Dad wants him too, 1st time he's said that publicly.

“Oh yeah, you can mark it down. Klay’s going to retire in the Warriors’ uniform," Mychal Thompson said to the San Francisco Chronicle. "He’s going to play at Chase Center and he’s not going to be at Chase Center as a visiting player, he’s going to be a Warrior for the next seven or eight years.”

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.si.com/n ... ors-future

Less than a few weeks ago lol

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I'm not even worried if Clippers get Butler and Kwahi, that team will have no players other then those 2 guys. And that will simply not get it done. Minn don't have to trade him right now, because come December more teams can join in on the trade offers. So if the Clippers and Knicks want to hold out because they don't want to give up anything good because they know they can sign him this summer, then I could see Minn sitting on him till December.

Kwahi and Butler with a bunch of scrubs won't even make it to the 2nd round.

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I'm not even worried if Clippers get Butler and Kwahi, that team will have no players other then those 2 guys. And that will simply not get it done. Minn don't have to trade him right now, because come December more teams can join in on the trade offers. So if the Clippers and Knicks want to hold out because they don't want to give up anything good because they know they can sign him this summer, then I could see Minn sitting on him till December.

Kwahi and Butler with a bunch of scrubs won't even make it to the 2nd round.

Bunch of scrubs? Harris, Gortat and Beverley are inferior to KCP/McGee/Stephenson and Rondo? Lol

Granted the Lakers have potential in the young core but providing Leonard is healthy, he is the better player (over LBJ) long term and we all hope one of the core can turn out like Butler.

A Lot of people here are expecting the Lakers to get to the finals with their current roster but the clips wouldn't get out of the 1st round? Lol

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Maybe this is just me but what young talent do the clips have that Woj keeps talking about?? Tobias??? There are 4 young guys on the Lakers better than the young players on the Clippers. Completely agree with Ray. Kawhi, Jimmy, and others are another high priced team that Doc won’t get out of the second round.

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“Oh yeah, you can mark it down. Klay’s going to retire in the Warriors’ uniform," Mychal Thompson said to the San Francisco Chronicle. "He’s going to play at Chase Center and he’s not going to be at Chase Center as a visiting player, he’s going to be a Warrior for the next seven or eight years.”

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.si.com/n ... ors-future

Less than a few weeks ago lol

Lol, guess we'll find out come next FA. Think it will come down and how much GS wants to go over luxury tax. And how much Klay thinks is a fare offer.

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Maybe this is just me but what young talent do the clips have that Woj keeps talking about?? Tobias??? There are 4 young guys on the Lakers better than the young players on the Clippers. Completely agree with Ray. Kawhi, Jimmy, and others are another high priced team that Doc won’t get out of the second round.

People were saying the same about the Pelicans and the Jazz last year. They stood no chance. It all comes down to match ups. Having a top 5 player (when healthy) and Butler (top 20-30 at worst) are match up nightmares. Both are legit 2 way players.

You guys are predicting LBJ, McGee, Ingram, KCP and Ball can get to the finals but the clippers couldn't get out of the 1st round? Lol

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Lol, guess we'll find out come next FA. Think it will come down and how much GS wants to go over luxury tax. And how much Klay thinks is a fare offer.

Absolutely, in today's age of social media everyone is about building a brand image and creating leverage. I don't believe anything until it's official.

What changed in the 3 weeks between his dad's 2 quotes? He probably got an inkling that the warriors want to low ball his deal, time to use the Lakers to leverage a better deal. My 2¢.

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In August this year Thompson said he wanted to be a warrior for life. If the warriors are serious about winning they know they need to keep this core together. It is far more likely he stays with the Warriors than it is for him to sign for the Lakers.
I agree that its more likely that he stays in GSW, I'm not banking on him leaving. I am just not sold no the fact they are going to give Durrant 40 million and Klay 30 million in the same off season. Klay may not want 30 million, so it....

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kkennon1 wrote:
Looks like Dad wants him too, 1st time he's said that publicly.

His father would love that. I'd love it to after KD and Kawhi....lol.

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Bunch of scrubs? Harris, Gortat and Beverley are inferior to KCP/McGee/Stephenson and Rondo? Lol

Granted the Lakers have potential in the young core but providing Leonard is healthy, he is the better player (over LBJ) long term and we all hope one of the core can turn out like Butler.

A Lot of people here are expecting the Lakers to get to the finals with their current roster but the clips wouldn't get out of the 1st round? Lol

I am talking about next year if the 2 joined forces. Via Butler trade and Kwahi signing. Good chance Harris would be the trade for Butler, so he may be gone. Minn has no reason to trade him to clippers for a bunch of random crappy pieces, if Clips want him they have to throw in at least one decent piece.

Also Gortat and Beverly are in the last year of their contracts. So they may not be back next year.

So Butler and Kwahi will cost them 32 millin each on a 108mil cap space.

That is 44 million in cap space left.

Gallinari is making 22 millin net year. So now they have 22 million in space space

Then they have Lou making 8 mil, Teodosic 7.8 mil, Harrell making 6 mil and there 2 rookies from the last draft.

So here is there team probably.

Gallanri

Kwahi

Butler

Lou

Teodosic

Harrell

Shai Gileous

Jerome Robinson

I'm sorry but that is no where close a contender. If you bring in 2 max deals, you have to have the young core, or your team won't go any where. Clips don't have a young core, and having to players take up 60% of your cap and no young players, is not a good combo.

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People were saying the same about the Pelicans and the Jazz last year. They stood no chance. It all comes down to match ups. Having a top 5 player (when healthy) and Butler (top 20-30 at worst) are match up nightmares. Both are legit 2 way players.

You guys are predicting LBJ, McGee, Ingram, KCP and Ball can get to the finals but the clippers couldn't get out of the 1st round? Lol

Very very few people are predicting Lakers to make Finals this year (thats stupid). I do think they have a chance of reach conference finals though. But I don't think they will beat GSW.

And also I for sure think Clippers with Butler and Kwahi can get out of the first round. I am just saying those 2 guys with the non exiting Clippers core are not a contender.

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What we do know is GSW are very good at managing their contracts and finances. Lots of creativity there.

What we do know is, the Clips aren't lol.

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Jimmy Butler is overrated and not a max player IMO.

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Very very few people are predicting Lakers to make Finals this year (thats stupid). I do think they have a chance of reach conference finals though. But I don't think they will beat GSW.

And also I for sure think Clippers with Butler and Kwahi can get out of the first round. I am just saying those 2 guys with the non exiting Clippers core are not a contender.

I was referencing the conference finals. People are over estimating just how much LBJ is going to help.

Plenty of teams in the west have a great 1-2 punch. Unless a member of the young core gets to an all star level, the Lakers are going to be just like the Blazers, Thunder, potentially the clippers.

The Lakers with LBJ and whoever is not a contender. The warriors are simply just that good as currently constructed. The only way teams have a chance is through injury or getting home court.

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I was referencing the conference finals. People are over estimating just how much LBJ is going to help.

Plenty of teams in the west have a great 1-2 punch. Unless a member of the young core gets to an all star level, the Lakers are going to be just like the Blazers, Thunder, potentially the clippers.

The Lakers with LBJ and whoever is not a contender. The warriors are simply just that good as currently constructed. The only way teams have a chance is through injury or getting home court.

Lakers as they sit now I do think are a contender to make the Western Conference Finals, just my opinion though we will see. I agree GSW is way above everyone else, that's why I think they may 2nd guess Klay for a max deal this summer, if they think they are still above everyone else, which they probably still would be.

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Jimmy Butler is overrated and not a max player IMO.

Define over rated? I don't think anyone is saying he is a top 10 player in the league but he is definitely top 25. Top 25 players are not worth the max? 450 players in the league, top 5% would be 22 players. Butler isn't in that top 5%?

Just going off current players Griffin is at $32 million, Hayward $31, Lowry $31, George $30.5, Conley $30.5, Millsap $29, Horford $29, DeRozan $28.

Plenty of players there that are not a max player.

Is he worth the $38 million he is going to try get? No, I would agree but I don't think CP3 should be seeing $160 million over 4 years, I don't think LBJ is worth the $154 million either (long term, paying LeBron $41 million as a 37year old? He is already 20th all time in minutes played, after this season he will be extremely close to top 10 territory. how have Paul Pierce, Dirk, Garnett, Kobe, Duncan all looked in their final seasons?) but that's what players are being offered. If you don't pay you fall by the wayside.

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Lakers as they sit now I do think are a contender to make the Western Conference Finals, just my opinion though we will see. I agree GSW is way above everyone else, that's why I think they may 2nd guess Klay for a max deal this summer, if they think they are still above everyone else, which they probably still would be.

Not going to argue with your opinion. They have the potential to that's for sure. Too many variables for me to agree with you though.

As the season goes on I think we will get a better picture (obviously) I just don't think the young guys are quite there yet and need another year. I don't like the players they brought in and don't think they brought what the roster was missing. I would love to come back to this post and be proved completely wrong but playing at a fast pace with an aging star, has disaster written all over it. We already saw how it turned out last time.

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His father would love that. I'd love it to after KD and Kawhi....lol.

Well yeah, me too !!! Lol

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I am talking about next year if the 2 joined forces. Via Butler trade and Kwahi signing. Good chance Harris would be the trade for Butler, so he may be gone. Minn has no reason to trade him to clippers for a bunch of random crappy pieces, if Clips want him they have to throw in at least one decent piece. Also Gortat and Beverly are in the last year of their contracts. So they may not be back next year. So Butler and Kwahi will cost them 32 millin each on a 108mil cap space. That is 44 million in cap....

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kkennon1 wrote:

Why do you guys quote these nobody's? Random Twits who simply utter an opinion, no better than anything anyone here would come with on their own. Seem fruitless. Imo.

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Why do you guys quote these nobody's? Random Twits who simply utter an opinion, no better than anything anyone here would come with on their own. Seem fruitless. Imo.

Get your facts straight, he's not a nobody. Has covered Lakers and LA sports for years, and well connected with organization. Have often seen Ramona and others re-tweet his articles.

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Get your facts straight, he's not a nobody. Has covered Lakers for years, and well connected with organization. Have often seen Ramona and others re-tweet his articles.

Dunno, but that tweet was nothing. Just bla...random speculaltion. No interesting or insider info. Nothing new, no revelations. Just random musings of some self important guy. And it's about a unlikely but possible eventual maybe deal with the Clips. Not the Lakers. I realize Butler is involved. But wrong team otherwise.

Personally I'd rather hear your pov than his. Until it's something of substance, it's just taking up space.

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Dunno, but that tweet was nothing. Just bla...notta. Nothing interesting or insider info. Nothing new, no revelations. Just random mutterings of some self important guy.

I'd rather hear your pov than his.

Yep, it was his option, but one that seems logically if you look what Clippers have to offer Wolves. And post was just showing someone more connected than us was talking along the same lines as Ray.

No breaking news, unless trade goes down like that. Lol

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Yep, it was his option, but one that seems logically if you look what Clippers have to offer Wolves. And post was just showing someone more connected than us was talking along the same lines as Ray.

No breaking news, unless trade goes down like that. Lol

Exactly. So it's just...meh. But most of the tweets pple love to post lately are like that. Just some other guy speculating same as we do. No more right or wrong than we are. Who cares if they should know more or not. They're no more right than we are. So why follow them and post them here. Let's just keep it to arguing amongst ourselves, rather than bringing in a bunch of prattle. A news article is one thing. Anyone can blablabla on twitter. And if they're wrong, and they are most of the time, no one cares. AND btw, it's about the Clips! lol. I don't think he's going to the Clips anyways, I think he's going to the Knicks. But that's me. Maybe I should start a twitter account and talk about it lol. No way Wolves take Williams for Butler. Minny will ask the sun like Pops did for Kawhi. If you think about it. As that guy obviously did not.

Next....

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Exactly. So it's just...meh. But most of the tweets pple love to post lately are like that. Just some other guy speculating same as we do. No more right or wrong than we are. Who cares if they should know more or not. They're no more right than we are. So why follow them and post them here. Let's just keep it to arguing amongst ourselves, rather than bringing in a bunch of prattle. A news article is one thing. Anyone can blablabla on twitter. And if they're wrong, and they are most of the time, no one cares. AND btw, it's about the Clips! lol. I don't think he's going to the Clips anyways, I think he's going to the Knicks. But that's me. Maybe I should start a twitter account and talk about it lol. No way Wolves take Williams for Butler. Minny will ask the sun like Pops did for Kawhi. If you think about it. As that guy obviously did not.

Next....

Lol, probably right. But Pops didn't get that much for Kawhi, when it comes down to it.

But don't see him going to Knicks, at least not in a trade. Don't think they will give up young players for player who's contract is up. Imo

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Lol, probably right. But Pops didn't get that much for Kawhi, when it comes down to it.

But don't see him going to Knicks, at least not in a trade. Don't think they will give up young players for player who's contract is up. Imo

Yeah maybe. But an aging Williams (bench guy) for a young starter top 25 in Butler. Never gonna happen. Maybe someone else will get him then. Who knows. But if it's not us, it don't matter.

And at this point I'd rather not have him OR Kawhi. So they better put on their spelunking helmets and start digging for someone else. I like the idea of the unibrow. And that seems just as likely as anything else I've heard. Coming here I mean.

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Yeah maybe. But an aging Williams (bench guy) for a young starter top 25 in Butler. Never gonna happen. Maybe someone else will get him then. Who knows. But if it's not us, it don't matter.

And at this point I'd rather not have him OR Kawhi. So they better put on their spelunking helmets and start digging for someone else. I like the idea of the unibrow. And that seems just as likely as anything else I've heard. Coming here I mean.

AD is on my dream list. Lol

Don't know of it will happen, but I'd never ask for anything else as far as Lakers getting a FA or trade. Lol

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AD is on my dream list. Lol

Don't know of it will happen, but I'd never ask for anything else as far as Lakers getting a FA or trade. Lol

Well you know in time we will probably need to address 2 issues. One is PG, most likely, if Lonzo doesn't get a whole lot better this year, and the other is the 5. Unibrow takes care of the 5, and would make LBJ's game a lot easier. PG who knows. But with Uni and LBJ on massive contracts, dunno if we can really (or would want to) take on another max deal guy. So needs to be someone very good but not necc great. Assuming some of the other young guys make decent improvements. I know, some here are sold on Lonzo, I'm not one of them. But time will tell. Then again maybe Charlotte will give up Walker after this season. I'd do that all day. Or Wall if Washington rebuilds.

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Well you know in time we will probably need to address 2 issues. One is PG, most likely, if Lonzo doesn't get a whole lot better this year, and the other is the 5. Unibrow takes care of the 5, and would make LBJ's game a lot easier. PG who knows. But with Uni and LBJ on massive contracts, dunno if we can really (or would want to) take on another max deal guy. So needs to be someone very good but not necc great. Assuming some of the other young guys make decent improvements. I know, some here are sold on Lonzo, I'm not one of them. But time will tell. Then again maybe Charlotte will give up Walker after this season. I'd do that all day. Or Wall if Washington rebuilds.

Still have faith in Zo, it's only been 1 season. And I wouldn't touch Wall, overrated in imo. Other than his shot, Zo had a pretty damn good 1st year. Think he'll improve his shooting this season (fingers crossed) , but if you looking for a 25+ ppg scorer, Zo is never going to be that or was supposed to be. Like I said when he was drafted, think he'll be a 18ppg , 9 +' assists with better talent around him and 7 + rebounds , per game. But he's already the top or one of the top defensive guards in league. My biggest concern with him and some of the other core is staying healthy.

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Still have faith in Zo, it's only been 1 season. And I wouldn't touch Wall, overrated in imo. Other than his shot, Zo had a pretty damn good 1st year. Think he'll improve his shooting this season (fingers crossed) , but if you looking for a 25+ ppg scorer, Zo is never going to be that or was supposed to be. Like I said when he was drafted, think he'll be a 18ppg , 9 +' assists with better talent around him and 7 + rebounds , per game. But he's already the top or one of the top defensive guards in league. My biggest concern with him and some of the other core is staying healthy.

Statistically he had a terrible year by any measure. Other than some defensive stats. And his injuries were worrying.

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Why do you guys quote these nobody's? Random Twits who simply utter an opinion, no better than anything anyone here would come with on their own. Seem fruitless. Imo.

Well since KAT has signed his new deal, something's about to go down. I say he goes to Clips or Knicks.

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Now the Cavs want in on the Butler sweepstakes? If they need assets to get the deal done I say send them next year first round pick in exchange for reaquiring Larry Nance Jr. With Nash back we’d never need to ask LeBron to play small ball center and Luke’s vision of an all 6’9” team could be realized. Nance’s cap hold isn’t that large and we could probably re-sign him in the offseason and still have a max slot available for Klay or Leonard.

Shepherd
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I'd like to have Nance back myself. Energy guy. But are you suggesting we get in on Butler as well? Not sure what you're suggesting there.

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Shepherd wrote:
Statistically he had a terrible year by any measure. Other than some defensive stats. And his injuries were worrying.

How !! Other than shooting. Rebounds and assists were very good for 1st year, besides them playing better when he was on floor. Anyways my dream player just possibly got a little closer. Lmao !!!

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kkennon1 wrote:
How !! Other than shooting. Rebounds and assists were very good for 1st year, besides them playing better when he was on floor. Anyways my dream player just possibly got a little closer. Lmao !!!

Let's hope so! He just bought a house here.

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Shepherd wrote:
Let's hope so! He just bought a house here.

Celtics super fan thinks so !!! Lmfao!!!!

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LBJ trying to put together a Space Jam team....lol.

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I think Butler will end up going to a team that is decent right now and hope they can convince him to stay long term. Similar to how Raptors traded for Kwahi, a team like that. I don't think any of the 3 teams he mentioned will get him for a trade. When you are a young team like those 3 teams, you don't want to give up pieces for a guy, that him alone won't make you all that great.

He wants to be traded for 2 reasons:

--He wants his money, if traded to a team that he likes, they can give him the 5 year max deal. Which is a big deal, because in year 5 of a max deal he probably get like 40 million and will be 34 years old. That is the only way he is going to see that kind of money at 34 years old.

--He wants to start recruiting guys to play with him sooner then later.

I think it will be hard for him to basically turn own 40 million guarantee, if he is traded to a good team this year. Same with Kwahi, if Toronto is a top team in East, which they should be. I think it will be hard to turn down all that extra money while being on a good team.


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