Lakers Have Renounced Randle making him an UFA (P. 2)

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Ray
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I don't have to be in the room to know that they let him go. And for nothing. That is their fault. They obviously didn't offer him enough, but I doubt they offered him anything. They could have extended him last year but like idiots they didn't because they made it clear they wanted to star chase. Also he was RESTRICTED, meaning no matter what happened they could've made sure he didn't get away. Do you have to be in a room to know that the FO has to let a player under contract get away a year and a....

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Ray wrote:
And you are assuming you were in the room today when they talked? Do you know what they offered if anything or what Randle demanded?

You and everyone else have no clue how that meeting went. And you are assuming FO went in there and basically forced him to walk away from us.

I don't have to be in the room to know that they let him go. And for nothing. That is their fault. They obviously didn't offer him enough, but I doubt they offered him anything. They could have extended him last year but like idiots they didn't because they made it clear they wanted to star chase. Also he was RESTRICTED, meaning no matter what happened they could've made sure he didn't get away. Do you have to be in a room to know that the FO has to let a player under contract get away a year and a half after taking over? I don't need to be in a room to know they didn't extend him or resign him. Those are facts.

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The best switching big man is a small set of defense and a major part of today's game. Mason was lock down and could play 5--3... Nonetheless, Randle is gone for 9 million a year to the Pelicans...so what sign does that send regarding Cousins?

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Randle to the Pelicans!!!!...2yrs/$18Mil...wow that was quick.

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To be honest i don't like this deal. So the Pelicans got Randle.

This move made them a force in a West Davis,Randle & Holiday/Nikola.

This move also signals that Cousins is going to LA.

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Wow!! Hope this doesn’t come back to bite us.

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So i guess Cousins has informed them that he won't come back? Randle/Nikola/Davis. No more playing time for Boogie.

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I just hope they get Kawhi ASAP -- cos with a 34 year old who plays as hard as LeBron, a serious injury could happen at any time. Remember some guy named Kobe? Having KL is a "superstar insurance policy."

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ralppcobarde wrote:
To be honest i don't like this deal. So the Pelicans got Randle.

This move made them a force in a West Davis,Randle & Holiday/Nikola.

This move also signals that Cousins is going to LA.

Randle and Davis is a match made in heaven. Davis can plays freely at 4 and they have Randle in the middle doing the heavy lifting. Wonder if we could have kept Randle and his Kentucky mate Cousins.

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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:

Wow!! Hope this doesn’t come back to bite us.

Good for him. I hope we meet them in the playoffs.

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Obviously if you jerk him around like the way we did. Lol

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JHC you guys are fast...don't you have jobs? lmao...

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Ray wrote:
There is it, Ramona just reported that randle wanted out of LA.

Some will say It’s Magic and Rob’s fault .. lol

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Obviously if you jerk him around like the way we did.

His agent is a turd

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TERRY-TEAGLE wrote:
His agent is a turd

Same guy who represents Pg as well. He didn’t even give us a meeting with him.

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Eric Pincus - The Lakers' relationship with Aaron Mintz of CAA was not a fruitful one - poor mutual experience with D'Angelo Russell, Lakers' prioritized cap room over an extension for Randle, benched him, etc. - George didn't give Lakers a meeting. It's all connected and apparently over

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At the end of the day Randle didn't want to stay because he was unsure of his role based off players we picked up.

Our FO would of 100% gave him 9mil a year for 2 years. That's a steal. But he wanted out, so it is what it is.

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TERRY-TEAGLE wrote:
His agent is a turd

For wanting what was best for his client? Lmao

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TERRY-TEAGLE wrote:
Some will say It’s Magic and Rob’s fault .. lol

They didn't offer him an extension.

They didn't want to offer him a long term deal.

You really want to say Randle felt like he was wanted?

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TERRY-TEAGLE wrote:
Some will say It’s Magic and Rob’s fault .. lol

Some would say the Lakers benched Randle for a far inferior player, almost like Magic didn't want a player he didn't draft.

Some would say that when Magic and Pelinka talked about the future of this team all that came out of his mouth was Ball, Kuzma and Ingram.

Some would say that after Randle fought back and forced the Lakers to start him, forced them by making them look like fools, when he proved he was the best player on the team, by far, and not Ingram, Ball and Kuzma, the Lakers still treated him like the step child of the group after the season. And during free agency.

Some would say Randle lived all this and saw it first hand because it happened to him and remembered it.

And some would be right about it.

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lakersfan1909 wrote:
Eric Pincus - The Lakers' relationship with Aaron Mintz of CAA was not a fruitful one - poor mutual experience with D'Angelo Russell, Lakers' prioritized cap room over an extension for Randle, benched him, etc. - George didn't give Lakers a meeting. It's all connected and apparently over

Yup...oh well...behind the scenes stuff...and all kinda silly. Grown men and all. Sheeesh. Anyways moving on. If we get Cousins out of the deal, and he's solid, we won't miss Randle. I know many here liked him but he and Ingram and Ball were my least fav players, and I don't mind seeing all 3 gone. There are better options. Funny thing is I was talking to a friend and saying I hope we don't get Rondo, after all this time (remember they tried to get him from Boston before years ago), coz then we'll have 2 PG's who can't shoot lol. But lots of assists for sure. Then again LBJ usually brings the ball down...sooo...

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Ray wrote:
At the end of the day Randle didn't want to stay because he was unsure of his role based off players we picked up.

Our FO would of 100% gave him 9mil a year for 2 years. That's a steal. But he wanted out, so it is what it is.

Heard Ramona say on the jump just now, that they only were offering 5.5m and 1 year.

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I think there is a Kwahi move in the works with Lonzo involved going to a 3rd team. Magic and RP know what they are doing. I do not think they operate in vacuum. They would have thought of every plan A/B/C and then contingency.

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N*^^*a acting like Randle is a super star or something. With every addition we make we make trade offs. It’s just business

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I guess it's a good thing we didn't give him 4yr/48mil last summer? Since the best deal he could find was. 2yrs/18mil.

I like Randle, but I'm cool with the over all deals we have made.

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lakersfan1909 wrote:
Eric Pincus - The Lakers' relationship with Aaron Mintz of CAA was not a fruitful one - poor mutual experience with D'Angelo Russell, Lakers' prioritized cap room over an extension for Randle, benched him, etc. - George didn't give Lakers a meeting. It's all connected and apparently over

Dude got caught up in his feelings, can’t be that way as an agent

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TERRY-TEAGLE wrote:
Dude got caught up in his feelings, can’t be that way as an agent

F Him and PG scary a^^^.

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lakersfan1909 wrote:
Eric Pincus - The Lakers' relationship with Aaron Mintz of CAA was not a fruitful one - poor mutual experience with D'Angelo Russell, Lakers' prioritized cap room over an extension for Randle, benched him, etc. - George didn't give Lakers a meeting. It's all connected and apparently over

Ok. That says it all.

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WatchTheSkyFall24 wrote:
Are you trolling? How is replacing Randle for Lebron while keeping the rest of the core intact equate to giving up a dynasty for mediocrity? You're being delusional bro.

Well, first of all, bro, I don't expect the rest of the core to remain intact. That might be delusional thinking. Just like everyone saying we wouldn't get rid of Randle when James signed with us.

But assuming you're not actually trolling with this post, answering your question, we just signed James (34), Rondo, McGee & Stephenson, while losing Randle and we should expect more to come. That's how you break up a great looking future to form a win now super team... oh wait there's nothing super about this team. Just a win now older players team.

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lakersfan1909 wrote:
I think there is a Kwahi move in the works with Lonzo involved going to a 3rd team. Magic and RP know what they are doing. I do not think they operate in vacuum. They would have thought of every plan A/B/C and then contingency.

I think you are right. And I think the Lakers explained their full strategy to Lebron.

I think we are dumb enough to trade some young players this year to get a guy we can have for nothing next year.

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Ray wrote:
I guess it's a good thing we didn't give him 4yr/48mil last summer? Since the best deal he could find was. 2yrs/18mil.

I like Randle, but I'm cool with the over all deals we have made.

Yeah he didn't get the big payday he wanted. So it's kinda odd. He could be outta NO after one year. Testing the market again. With his weaknesses, he has too many holes to expect the big payday. Esp in today's nba. He's getting what he deserves. What the market will bear. At least atm. Sure we could have paid him that, but then the resentment plays into it. And hey, it's his choice. Or is it Mintz's choice to steer all his clients away form LA? Time will tell. Let's hope none of our other hopeful targets are with him. Nothing worse than a vindictive agent who holds a grudge.

But remember, everyone said that other than the few max players, everyone else would be getting less this offseason than they hoped to, thus the proliferation of 1 year or 1+1 deals. More teams will have money to spend next year and the one after. So it is conceivable he hates it in NO and we have a need next season and bring him back. Personally I don't care if we do or don't, but I'm offering a little hope to the Randle lovers here heheh.

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SPQR wrote:
I think you are right. And I think the Lakers explained their full strategy to Lebron.

I think we are dumb enough to trade some young players this year to get a guy we can have for nothing next year.

Kind of like how it worked out with Paul George? Don’t get me wrong, I have mixed feelings about trading the young guys for a proven all star but as good as the young guys are, they have a lot to prove until they are at all star level. Not taking KL now if we can trade for him is gambling on the future since we could miss out on him entirely. Granted, I think the likelihood of him signing next year is far better than George was this year but if KL gets traded to a team that is contending for a finals spot then the chances deminish greatly.

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lakersfan1909 wrote:
Eric Pincus - The Lakers' relationship with Aaron Mintz of CAA was not a fruitful one - poor mutual experience with D'Angelo Russell, Lakers' prioritized cap room over an extension for Randle, benched him, etc. - George didn't give Lakers a meeting. It's all connected and apparently over

Well ok...wow.

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SPQR wrote:
I think you are right. And I think the Lakers explained their full strategy to Lebron.

I think we are dumb enough to trade some young players this year to get a guy we can have for nothing next year.

But with the PG experience, you cannot take a chance. If you can trade for BI + Hart + Picks get him right away. We do not know if KL changes mind. The only thing that worries me is his health. But I like what Magic and RP are doing, they are giving 1 yr deals to keep a max offer open for next year ..

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Lmao! And the Pelicans get him for 2 year 18Mil! Wow! What a steal. Shows how much he didn't want to be back here. The Pelicans will be a better team than us now too. Wow.

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Kind of like how it worked out with Paul George? Don’t get me wrong, I have mixed feelings about trading the young guys for a proven all star but as good as the young guys are, they have a lot to prove until they are at all star level. Not taking KL now if we can trade for him is gambling on the future since we could miss out on him entirely. Granted, I think the likelihood of him signing next year is far better than George was this year but if KL gets traded to a team that is contending for a finals spot then the chances deminish greatly.

Nope. Not trading a young player for a guy we will get next year for nothing. Not with what Ingram and Kuzma have shown. That's pure idiocy to me.

A couple other things. Heard today that George soured on the Lakers for two reasons, they didn't offer enough to get him traded to us last year and then this year they pulled back on him to explore Leonard first. Those two things did not sit well with him.

Lebron has called Cousins the best center in the game. Hmmmm does that carry any weight with the Lakers you think?

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Ramona Shelburne (@ramonashelburne) Tweeted:

According to multiple sources Julius Randle asked to be renounced by the the Lakers once it became clear his role could dramatically change this season and the team wasn’t interested in making a longer term commitment to him.

So if this wasn't the case, that his role wasn't about to change why couldn't the great Magic say so. It's pretty simple, they didn't want him around and were ok letting him ok. You don't renounce players if you want them around. I'm not even that high on Randle but it's not fair to put this completely on him.

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Ray wrote:
He asked to be let go man, why would they want to keep him at that point? That's like saying the Spirs should keep kwahi all year.

He just signed a 2 year deal for 18million. The Lakers would have gave him that easily. He just didn't want to come back

Most people do think the Spurs should keep Kawhi!!

Why should they keep him? Well first, I love how you totally ignore the fact that it's their fault he wanted out! B. Because he's one of the best young players in the league and they control his future! Why in the hell would you let him walk??? Are you even being serious right now? I don't think it would be been hard to fix the relationship that they soured. Pay him and tell him how important he is to the future. That's all it would've taken.

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Esquire wrote:
The best switching big man is a small set of defense and a major part of today's game. Mason was lock down and could play 5--3... Nonetheless, Randle is gone for 9 million a year to the Pelicans...so what sign does that send regarding Cousins?

I'd have to see how much money we have left, guessing not much, but I'm think Cousins may be headed to LA now.

Davis and Randle will be the best front court in the NBA for years to come if they can retain him.

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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:

Obviously if you jerk him around like the way we did. Lol

Exactlyyyyyyy

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TERRY-TEAGLE wrote:
Some will say It’s Magic and Rob’s fault .. lol

All I gotta say is wow. Talk about blind loyalty.

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Ric Bucher - Let’s not pretend the Lakers aren’t vetting every single move w/LeBron. So why Lance, JaVale and Rajon? They all have showed no fear of LeBron on the court. They can’t get guys that fit him on one-year deals so they’re getting guys he at least respects.

I think 1 yr deals are the key to keep cap space for next summer .. so you have to see whom you can sign ..

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Tempy wrote:
For wanting what was best for his client? Lmao

Lol yeah. Scumbag!!

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SPQR wrote:
Some would say the Lakers benched Randle for a far inferior player, almost like Magic didn't want a player he didn't draft.

Some would say that when Magic and Pelinka talked about the future of this team all that came out of his mouth was Ball, Kuzma and Ingram.

Some would say that after Randle fought back and forced the Lakers to start him, forced them by making them look like fools, when he proved he was the best player on the team, by far, and not Ingram, Ball and Kuzma, the Lakers still treated him like the step child of the group after the season. And during free agency.

Some would say Randle lived all this and saw it first hand because it happened to him and remembered it.

And some would be right about it.

Some would also say he wasn't even extended last offseason for cheap money.

And then somehow some will say it's not the FO's fault...

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kkennon1 wrote:
Heard Ramona say on the jump just now, that they only were offering 5.5m and 1 year.

If this is true there is your proof of the mismanagement we are seeing before our eyes!

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I saw somewhere that Lakers can still do a sign and trade for randle as nothing is officially signed yet. Can Lakers do S&T for Randle and get Cousins?

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Golden State just signed Cousins.

And that takes care of that. Hold the ring ceremony tomorrow.

Sorry Magic, sorry Lebron.

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SPQR wrote:
Golden State just signed Cousins.

And that takes care of that. Hold the ring ceremony tomorrow.

Sorry Magic, sorry Lebron.

And got him for nothing. Lmao!!!

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SPQR wrote:
Golden State just signed Cousins.

And that takes care of that. Hold the ring ceremony tomorrow.

Sorry Magic, sorry Lebron.

But hey, we got James!!!! Getting him and losing Randle was a great move!!

Zero chance we ever beat Golden State during this 4 years. Magic just wasted another 4 years of the franchise.


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