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I'd trade for a young proven star, but don't know if I do it all Leonard, that injury worries me. But say AD or Greak Freak comes available, than a bets are off. Lol SPQR, I'm also fine with the current young players we have, don't think we really need to add 2 max guys( now that Cousins is hurt, was hoping for him and PG13). Just 1 would be good, and see how that goes next season. Than if someone else becomes available, go from there. But you still don't think Randle is worth 20+ million, but might not....


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Disagree Curry came in playing like a future star, only thing that held him back were ankle problems. Thompson has always been great defensively, and came in shooting over 41% from 3 rookie season.

Lol, light years!!! Green is what I hope Randle can become, shooting and on defense.

So No!!! I currently don't see any of our guy's developing to that level, especially Curry's level. But I did say currently don't see it!!!

Curry was a great collegiate player, that everyone slept on in the draft, and when he first came into the league, NO ONE saw this in him! If you say you did, you're a liar. He wasn't even that hyped up, let alone being thought of as a two time MVP that was arguably the best player in the league until KD joins GSW.

Thompson recently became great defensively.

And I don't know what's funny. I didn't say anything about comparing Randle to Green right now, although it's not THAT far off, I said at 23 Randle is light years ahead of green at that point. That's clearly the truth so lol to you.

So again, NO ONE saw the warriors players becoming what they are today. So I'm not disagreeing with you when you say you don't see anyone getting to that level from the Lakers, neither do I tbh, but no one saw or for those players either.


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I completely agree with this post. I think those are exactly the 3 things we need, shooter, center and backup PG. I'd be interested in M. Smart, but wouldn't want to give up too much for him. Not many options at center tbh. I'd like to

See them attempt To Develop Zubac, who looked really good for a rookie. Then we'd need to add a shooter somewhere. Although, I do think Ball's shooting is improving, Ingram's is improving, hoping Randle's will, and Kuzma & Clarkson are decent shooters. I don't think we'll continue to be this awful is my point.

Like Smart ,but don't know if I like him at pg. And don't think at least 1 of those players you listed will be on team next season.

Think there will be plenty of 2nd tier FA's that could help with shooting, but FO seems intent on hitting a HR or 2. Lol


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There have been more than a few games this year ,where he didn't look like he was giving a 100%, but has definitely been better lately.

JJ, I'm not against keeping Randle, think we both have said at right price. Just don't think FO feels the same way.

Yeah of course. We both agree.

When talking about Randle, I just think thatnpost was pretty exaggerated. The first 5 games or so he was clearly not focused (hard to blame him with sudden lack of playing time, but hey, no excuses) and in previous seasons there was talk about how he was the number one hustle guy, but it wasn't with 100% consistency, but to act like he's been this drama queen all year is ridiculous.


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Like Smart ,but don't know if I like him at pg. And don't think at least 1 of those players you listed will be on team next season.

Think there will be plenty of 2nd tier FA's that could help with shooting, but FO seems intent on hitting a HR or 2. Lol

Well I hope we keep those players. Let KCP go and replace him with a shooter. Maybe get a backup SF.


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Cali, Ray, Kkennon: Going back to the young Warriors vs the young Lakers. Because of Curry's total greatness and uniqueness, it is hard to see our young guys, in aggregate, being better than theirs. But like I said, they don't have to be. But here is what's really interesting to me: We have something in a young that they never had, size. Of course i'm talking about Ingram. If this guy turns into a legit star, that gives our young group something they never had. They had to go out and get Durant to achieve that. Cali, I can tell you and I are both fascinated with Randle, probably two of the very few since almost all talk here about our future "stars" seems to center around Ball, Kuzma and Ingram. But this guy is very interesting because of how he plays, mentally and physically. And...... low and behold, he has become the teams best player! You make a good point about him being better than Green at this stage of his career. People talk about the upside to Ball, Ingram and perhaps Kuzma (he played much more college so his upside is a bit more debatable, though I think he will get considerably better). No one really talks about Randle's upside, as though at 23 he is a finished product. I would say this, was Shaq or Kobe a finished product at 23? Magic or Bird? Karl Malone? Lebron? Reggie Miller? At 23 had they reached their height of improvement and play? Randle has already shown two things that are so very rare, a ferocity of attitude and love of physical play. But it's not just that, he can run like a deer and is an adept, smart, willing passer. We know what Randle has to add, a reliable shot and some more moves. What if he does?....


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Well I hope we keep those players. Let KCP go and replace him with a shooter. Maybe get a backup SF.

I don't think they have any intention of keeping KCP, honestly think he was signed as in road to you know who's agent. Lol


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SPQR AGREE, think Randle is still improving. And as I said before I have no problem what so ever of keeping him. My argument is if FO has made its mind up already about him or Clarkson, than move 1 or both and get something, rather than lose either for nothing. And I don't mean just move either for cap space !!! Guess we'll find out by Thursday, if not than by end of season.

But will also say that sometimes a trade works out that you necessarily didn't think would at 1st. Clippers got rid if their best player and got back nice package that's working out for both teams so far , as neither has lost since trade. So that's why I say if FO isn't going to keep 1 or either ,get something back that could turn out good. And yes!! I know Randle ain't Blake, but still I would expect something decent in return.

Also SPQR you brought up the point that no one is talking about Randle's upside, I bring up another point that I've seen people talk about in pretty much every sport, and that is watching out for a player that waits till his contract year to start to really produce. Not saying he's one of those guys that after getting big contract tails off, but think it's also a fair question.


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I really do love Randle, but I don't love him for 20 million a year. Like 12-15million sure.

And there is no way someone watching the Lakers can't say Randle has let riding the bench or not finishing a game or only playing 18mins affect him on quite a few games this year. Yea he is happy now, he's been getting to start.

All I am saying I am ok to move Randle or Clarkson if it means an allstar comes here.

I don't want to move Lonzo Kuzma or Ingram hey are still on rookie deals


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Yeah, pretty much everything SPQR just said is what I would do if I was in charge of the team. I like Clarkson more than others on here. If we had a winning record, he'd be in the mix for 6th man of the year. I'd like to keep him as well as the 4 players SPQR named.


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Hi Randy,

Speaking of Ingram, he does possess a unique talent. He impacts the game so much in different plays. There is one play vs OKC that he lockdown Westbrook, blocked Melo & swiped the ball on Paul George. Of course he is tasked to play defense.but he is also tasked to play PG whoch requires playmaking & also lead the team in scoring.

Some fans don't give this guy too much credit. He is doing a lot for a 20yr old.just keeps getting better & better. Becoming one of my favorite players now. I know some people is bothered with his free throws.but more than that he is capable in the clutch man whether it is defense or offense.

I Have followed Durant since his rookie year but he doesn't possess the playmaking for others at 20yrs old just yet, he learn that in his mid year.Ingram has already have that in just 2nd year, he handles the double team nicely. i consider this his rookie year too since he got so little opportunities early last years season.

This team is playing hard & with effort, which i havent seen for years. Especially on defense. I'm also liking our passing game so far. Randle & Clarkson have already developed & attained the Ball culture i guess. No knock on Kobe, but early years from Kobe didn't help their foundation on the game. Seems like when they play Defense,sharing the ball & winning. After 3-4 years in the league, it seems they are finding the right mindset on winning

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Well with Woj reporting that the Lakers have shifted focus to the free agent class of 2019, I think it's official that the Lakers will probably take a "at the right price" approach with Julius Randle. I think they will most likely re-sign him this offseason unless it will cost too much and take them out of their free agent chasing plans. The fortunate thing is that he's restricted and every team knows we have the cap space to match an offer, that and not too many teams have a ton of cap space, so they'll likely not want to tie up their own cap space for 3 days in free agency and he will likely not get another offer. This would help us tremendously with retaining him at a good price.

Side note, I'm really curious if Pelinka got in Magic's ear and at least got him to compromise his star chasing plans. Based off the report that they may not have the same vision, I find this shift pretty interesting. As fans we can hold out some hope that either they will be forced to keep our talented group together or that Pelinka actually knows what he's doing and can get the job done.

... or who knows maybe they'll still get rid of our young core and sign a ton of 1 year contracts to chase nothing but unrealistic max free agents a year later. Guess we'll have to wait and find out.


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This is a good move to keep him (if we do) and hope we resign Randle for 12-15 million a year. At that price we can easily trade him if for some reason we needed to. The risk of getting Randle to resign for 12-15 million vs him getting a huge offer is worth it. It appears our FO is not currently getting some amazing deals for him right now anyways or he would be gone.

Also there is no real reason to make a Clarkson and Randle move right now, before 2 FA commit to us. Clarkson can be moved this summer and we could let Randle walk. While I wouldn't want to let Randle walk for nothing, I don't think anyone would care that we did let him walk if it meant we got 2 all stars coming here. Which is the only way we let him walk for nothing.


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JJCali wrote:
Well with Woj reporting that the Lakers have shifted focus to the free agent class of 2019, I think it's official that the Lakers will probably take a "at the right price" approach with Julius Randle. I think they will most likely re-sign him this offseason unless it will cost too much and take them out of their free agent chasing plans. The fortunate thing is that he's restricted and every team knows we have the cap space to match an offer, that and not too many teams have a ton of cap space, so they'll likely not want to tie up their own cap space for 3 days in free agency and he will likely not get another offer. This would help us tremendously with retaining him at a good price.

Side note, I'm really curious if Pelinka got in Magic's ear and at least got him to compromise his star chasing plans. Based off the report that they may not have the same vision, I find this shift pretty interesting. As fans we can hold out some hope that either they will be forced to keep our talented group together or that Pelinka actually knows what he's doing and can get the job done.

... or who knows maybe they'll still get rid of our young core and sign a ton of 1 year contracts to chase nothing but unrealistic max free agents a year later. Guess we'll have to wait and find out.

Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't the one year thing again, as far as Randle ,think main team to worry about is Dallas.


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JJCali wrote:
Well with Woj reporting that the Lakers have shifted focus to the free agent class of 2019, I think it's official that the Lakers will probably take a "at the right price" approach with Julius Randle. I think they will most likely re-sign him this offseason unless it will cost too much and take them out of their free agent chasing plans. The fortunate thing is that he's restricted and every team knows we have the cap space to match an offer, that and not too many teams have a ton of cap space, so they'll likely not want to tie up their own cap space for 3 days in free agency and he will likely not get another offer. This would help us tremendously with retaining him at a good price.

Side note, I'm really curious if Pelinka got in Magic's ear and at least got him to compromise his star chasing plans. Based off the report that they may not have the same vision, I find this shift pretty interesting. As fans we can hold out some hope that either they will be forced to keep our talented group together or that Pelinka actually knows what he's doing and can get the job done.

... or who knows maybe they'll still get rid of our young core and sign a ton of 1 year contracts to chase nothing but unrealistic max free agents a year later. Guess we'll have to wait and find out.

Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't the one year thing again, as far as Randle ,think main team to worry about is Dallas.

This could also mean that offers they've had could mean take back players that's contacts go into next season. ..smh


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Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't the one year thing again, as far as Randle ,think main team to worry about is Dallas.

Well I'm thinking they'll be able to re-sign Randle for sure if this report is accurate. But other than that, yeah, they'll clearly go the 1-year route with free agents.


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Well I'm thinking they'll be able to re-sign Randle for sure if this report is accurate. But other than that, yeah, they'll clearly go the 1-year route with free agents.

Oh for sure they can re-sign him, but would guess it depends on the how much another team is willing to offer him.


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Well I'm thinking they'll be able to re-sign Randle for sure if this report is accurate. But other than that, yeah, they'll clearly go the 1-year route with free agents.

I'm still not convince PG stays in OKC. I think he very much wants to play at home in LA. I feel like OKC has to take GSW to at least 6 games for him to want to stay there. Has to be that feeling like we could make that jump and beat GSW.


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I'm still not convince PG stays in OKC. I think he very much wants to play at home in LA. I feel like OKC has to take GSW to at least 6 games for him to want to stay there. Has to be that feeling like we could make that jump and beat GSW.

Yeah, I mostly agree with you. But he has started sounding like he'll stay. If he wants to come here then the FO will happily take him. I think they must be convinced they are getting no one. Or at least not getting Cousins /James. I'd rather have Klay and/or Khawi than George though. So I'd be happy if they went the 2019 route. Plus then we can get more evidence on who is the future of this team.


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Yeah, I mostly agree with you. But he has started sounding like he'll stay. If he wants to come here then the FO will happily take him. I think they must be convinced they are getting no one. Or at least not getting Cousins /James. I'd rather have Klay and/or Khawi than George though. So I'd be happy if they went the 2019 route. Plus then we can get more evidence on who is the future of this team.

You do know in order to sign 2 max players in 2019, they still have to trade Clarkson and Randle, posted article earlier. Whether it's 2018 or 19, they still won't have enough cap space for 2 if they're still on team.

Here it is again.

https://sports.yahoo.com/lakers-want-fa ... 43834.html

So we'll be right back here next season going thru same thing unless team steps up and decide they only next 1 max player.


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You do know in order to sign 2 max players in 2019, they still have to trade Clarkson and Randle, posted article earlier. Whether it's 2018 or 19, they still won't have enough cap space for 2 if they're still on team. Here it is again. https://sports.yahoo.com/lakers-want-fans-stop-expecting-lebron-james- paul-george-174343834.html So we'll be right back here next season going through same thing unless team steps up and decide they only next 1 max player.
That is not true, we do not have to move both of those guys for 2 max players. So lets assume for the sake of what I'm trying to show, Lakers have chosen....


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That is not true, we do not have to move both of those guys for 2 max players. So lets assume for the sake of what I'm trying to show, Lakers have chosen to move Clarkson and take back no salary. And also stretch Deng over 5 years for 7 million cap hit. Also I believe the cap is roughly 103 next year. Also we agree to give Randle whatever he wants, but his cap hold is 12 million and he will let us make other deals before we sign him over the cap. (This could swap also, let Randle go....


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That is not true, we do not have to move both of those guys for 2 max players. So lets assume for the sake of what I'm trying to show, Lakers have chosen to move Clarkson and take back no salary. And also stretch Deng over 5 years for 7 million cap hit. Also I believe the cap is roughly 103 next year. Also we agree to give Randle whatever he wants, but his cap hold is 12 million and he will let us make other deals before we sign him over the cap. (This could swap also, let Randle go....


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LeBron and Durant are the only 2 players this summer that will see a max 35million since they have been in the league 10+ years.

Cousins and PG13 only can get 30million each.


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Trying to post an espn article , not saying your wrong, maybe you can explain it to me Ray. Might have to copy whole thing.

Here it is .

Hypothetical situation: Let’s assume they sign 2 FA’s, how do they pay our own guys who would be eligible for new contracts? Lol.


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Hypothetical situation: Let’s assume they sign 2 FA’s, how do they pay our own guys who would be eligible for new contracts? Lol.

Guess they have to decide if they want to go over cap. And who they want to keep depending on how they're playing at time of re-signing.


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Ralppcobarde, I don't have problems with Ingram's progress at all. I loved that play you mentioned and two others of his most spectacular were in games against Golden State and Durant. Him and Randle led the way last night to another win. He has flaws but he is so young right now. He has so much time to get better. They say he is a great worker and that's all that matters for me because he has great physical talent. You wish someone that tall was more physical and a better re bounder even at this age but the fact is he is skinny. He has put on pounds and muscle and will put on more. He won't ever be a Karl Malone but with years of weight work and his eventual man strength I think he will be able to do all the things we need including averaging decent rebounds. And guys, speaking of players we would trade or not trade I have to say Hart is rising fast on my no trade list. Will he ever be a starting caliber point? I don't know about that. He's not a great passer and I don't think he may ever become one. But his scoring is really coming along and like Randle he is physical and strong. He also plays really good defense for a rookie. He rebounds like crazy and you can see he understands the game very well, you can see why he was on a title winning college team. He strikes me as one of those guys, you know, a winner. He's one of those guys that you see on really good teams. That guy who comes off the bench and does several things well and is a real pain in the a$$ to deal with because of what he does....


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Think Randle is safe for now.


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Think Randle is safe for now.

Definitely safe...LOL!!! And that's good. The team is rolling and I think the FO needs to REALLY take a look at what they have on the roster and Randle should be a part of it. Is he a super star? No, but I think he can play a very important part on this team.

The one deal I am glad that did not go down, was Randle to Dallas for Nerlens Noel. If the FO would have did that I would be soooo done with this FO already....lol!


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SPQR,

I agree with you about Hart. Hart is the type of player that winning teams utilize off their bench. Hart is very versatile, a good rebounder and can grow into a better shooter. The Laker's hopefully realize this and can somehow keep players like him.


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Lakerdude,

Yep, if they had moved Randle for the Big Nothing Noel I would have started giving Magic and Pelinka the same treatment I gave Mitch and Jim's abominations their last few years, stopped watching. I can live with a bad team, losing seasons but what I could never abide was a dumb front office that makes one bad move after another. Not for years, like we had.

I saw Earv really praised Randle today and said he's playing terrific ball. Maybe he's having second thoughts.

I agree with what you said about Hart. He's just one of those guys you see on really good teams and always does something to help the cause. A great rebounding day, crucial steals, that big shot, tough defense.

I have a very strong feeling about that guy.


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Hi Randy,

I'm totally agree with Hart. For me he is untouchable, he is gonna be vital for us in this team. In the future he will be the glue guy to this team like Fisher or Fox on our title run. I won't be surprised when he hit one or two big shots in the playoffs along the way.

I'm currently liking this roster although we traded Nance & Clarkson but it opened up more minutes for Kuzma, Randle & Hart. This is the passive way for the organization for rewarding them on their great play as of late. To be honest, he is now my favorite player on our roster. He brings so much to the table & defend like crazy. A very good drafr choice IMO. He is definitely a winner. He spoke like a veteran actually & could not agree more.

One reasons why he didnt get minutes at the start is because he got injured early in the Summer League? Or Preseason? Im not sure but he didn’t have the exposure early & we do have KCP & Clarkson. But ive noticed our defense have been an improvement as of late . The lineup of KCP,Hart,Ingram,Kuzma & Randle are really good fefensively. They pick their man so much with all the switching of the pick & roll. Man i remember few years ago we really suck defending that pick & roll.

In terms of the trade they did made, i really like Frye.always been a fan. Great locker room guy & fits our system well that needs shooting IMO. I wont mind him on the team.and of course, we got that pick back , the one we traded before on Nash trade. With that, im happy.


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... The lineup of KCP,Hart,Ingram,Kuzma & Randle are really good defensively...

Those five are killer! (Although KCP should shoot less unless he is hot.)

But we do need a center. Look at what we did with Zubac in the game -- he might be a slow lumbering slug BUT he did not park his carcass on the three point line and shoot like one of the Three Blind Mice.

It would be amazing if IT became the IT of last year.

This team is getting ready to blow up!!!


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Yup with KCP & IT knowing & playing with their roles they might be a good piece for us in the future. You know, just like Iggy and Livingston , they were going teams to teams until they became integral part of the team.


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Hey Ralppcobarde, I agree with you about the roster we are building. I am hoping the trade opens more playing time for the young guys. Clarkson was a loss. If he had been more of a team ball player I would have really hated losing him. He could fill it up. I'm real happy to get that pick from Cleveland. If they keep picking like they have the last few years we may get something good. Look at some of these picks lately, Nance, Clarkson, Kuzma, Hart and when he played last year even Zubac. More on him later. And that begs a question, has there been one prime driver for those picks? Because if so, that person is invaluable to the team and they need to keep him at all costs. With the young players we have now you are not only talking about talented kids who can run but also play defense and that is very exciting. Baad, I'm with you on KCP not shooting as much. The same problem I had with Clarkson. We do need a center and it's interesting you brought up Zubac. When we drafted him it was as a raw, young project. But surprisingly he had some very good games last year ahead of schedule so I was really looking forward to seeing him this season. He even added much needed muscle with hard work in the off season. Then we got Lopez and that all ended. I can tell you of all the things that can bother me about a basketball player is a real big center who is afraid to rebound. That is right at the very top of my loathing list. Lopez is the exemplar of this. He is more likely to get up six three point shots than get six rebounds. Good analysts like Hubie Brown have more....


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SPQR,

Let's hope as we near the end of the year, they will start playing Zubac to see what they have, knowing they will be letting Lopez go.


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Let's hope as we near the end of the year, they will start playing Zubac to see what they have, knowing they will be letting Lopez go.

Cali,

Indeed. I really want all the kids to get most of the time. I'd Luol Deng the Terror Bird pretty much.


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Indeed. I really want all the kids to get most of the time. I'd Luol Deng the Terror Bird pretty much.

Haha! I'd love to see Zubac in action a lot more. To see if we really have something there. Our center moving forward or not.

Encouraged about us not trading Randle btw. Apparently they got offers for him if they wanted to just dump his salary, and they turned those down immediately. We'll see what happens this offseason. I'm quite sure, if he wasn't in their plans they would've traded him for something. That way they get something for him as opposed to just letting him walk for nothing.


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Cali,

Yeah. I think Randle kind of forced them to change their plans at least for the present. I mean who trades a 23 year old who is playing like that? Unless you get an offer you can't refuse you will look pretty damn dumb.


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...I can tell you of all the things that can bother me about a basketball player is a real big center who is afraid to rebound. That is right at the very top of my loathing list. Lopez is the exemplar of this. He is more likely to get up six three point shots than get six rebounds. Good analysts like Hubie Brown have more than once said during games that Lopez would serve the team better down low more. They are correct. But this huge wimp will never do it...

Against Dallas, "The Big Doofus" (my name for Lopez) got three rebounds, Kuzma got fifteen.

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kkennon1 wrote:
Think Randle is safe for now.

Finally an FO that didn't let other teams rake us over the coal like the past FO.


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BaadMaster wrote:
Against Dallas, "The Big Doofus" (my name for Lopez) got three rebounds, Kuzma got fifteen.

What is wrong with this picture?

The book of Luke chapters dumb, stupid & ignorant.


kkennon1
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BaadMaster wrote:
Against Dallas, "The Big Doofus" (my name for Lopez) got three rebounds, Kuzma got fifteen.

What is wrong with this picture?

Lopez isn't known for his rebounding, wasn't exactly crashing the boards with Nets. Even when he's down under rim he looks slow and not to interested in fighting the a rebound.


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Pete,

They must really take the Lakers for fools or Magic willing to do anything to cut salary. A second round pick is a joke.

The way Randle is playing it would have to be a high lottery pick in a really good draft to even start to get my attention.

I guess teams are used to picking us dry and laughing about it after as they did so many times with Mitch and Jim.


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SPQR wrote:
Pete,

They must really take the Lakers for fools or Magic willing to do anything to cut salary. A second round pick is a joke.

The way Randle is playing it would have to be a high lottery pick in a really good draft to even start to get my attention.

I guess teams are used to picking us dry and laughing about it after as they did so many times with Mitch and Jim.

Think if he wasn't a RFA they might have been offered 1st. But as you said , been offered a high 1st, say top 5 !! I would have packed his bags for him. Lol


userpete1037
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SPQR wrote:
Pete,

They must really take the Lakers for fools or Magic willing to do anything to cut salary. A second round pick is a joke.

The way Randle is playing it would have to be a high lottery pick in a really good draft to even start to get my attention.

I guess teams are used to picking us dry and laughing about it after as they did so many times with Mitch and Jim.

Oh without a doubt. Giving up all those picks for Nash, signing Deng and Mozgov like they were PG13 or Boogie Cousins; yeah I can see why teams think we're suckers...lol!!!!!


JJCali
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SPQR wrote:
Pete,

They must really take the Lakers for fools or Magic willing to do anything to cut salary. A second round pick is a joke.

The way Randle is playing it would have to be a high lottery pick in a really good draft to even start to get my attention.

I guess teams are used to picking us dry and laughing about it after as they did so many times with Mitch and Jim.

Exactly. But like Kkennon said, think it had more to do with impending free agency. But, they finally did something smart and turned it down. They must be impressed, cause I know nothing has been more important to Magic than his precious cap space!


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