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With LaVar's latest outburst towards Walton. Is Magic finding out the hard way, how blasting the franchise with an outside perspective can be hugely detrimental to the inside of the franchise?

After years of sniping at Jim Buss and previous coaches, it truly is ironic that LaVar is giving him a taste of his own medicine.

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“It’s all the same idea,” Walton said. “It’s our job to, as coaches, to coach our team, to not be concerned with parents, with what other people outside the organization think. A lot of them have shown support as far as they know what it’s like to coach young teams and from what they see in how hard our young group plays. They really like our young team and the way that they compete.” If there is a certainty to the fallout of LaVar’s outburst, it’s this: He won’t get what he wants. Firing Walton, even after the season, will be....


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I never felt Magic was the right guy for the job. Nothing in his past ventures says he is qualified to run the Lakers. They should've gone out and hired a talented assistant GM who's paid his dues. I will say that the pressure is on for Magic and Pelinka. Say what you want about Kupchak, but he kept things close to the vest for a reason. Yeah he f'd up with the Deng and Mozgov signings, but when you set expectations as high as Magic and Pelinka have, you better deliver. They've been harping about 2018 free agency, so they better come through. I don't believe they will, I don't see LeBron coming here, and think there is a good chance PG stays in OKC. And as much as it hurts me to say, I will laugh when that happens. Nothing like a little dose of reality slapping you in the face.


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Magic was a horrible decision. All you had to do was read his twitter or watch him commentate on... ABC I think. He was the absolute worst! He always seemed like the most clueless person on there. Throw in his stupid bashing of the franchise, which between him and the rest of the media, is why I really think Jim Buss got such a horrible rap. When you have people like Magic, Stephen A. Smith and other people saying from day 1 he has no idea what he's doing etc. etc. of course players are gonna pass on coming to play for his franchise. Jim Buss failed, don't get me wrong, but I think he failed because he never really had a shot. I think Magic is doing a worse job than him. This FO is blatantly doing the things that most fans assumed the previous FO was doing. Like putting out trade rumors about our players, having players with no confidence that they'll be back next year, signing 1 years deals, preserving cap space to chase older superstar free agents that they likely won't get. The difference though, is they have done just as little with more talent, and they are out in the media admitting exactly what they are doing. Mitch would never put anything out in the media like that. No wonder players are having meetings to complain and reportedly wanting to be traded. What a shame.

I know they have only been here a year, so I'm not condemning them like they've been her for a decade... but I knew Magic would be awful, and he's surpassed my expectations thus far. Hope he proves me wrong.


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The ESPN reporter went to Lithuania and asked those questions to Lavar. He answered them directly. He also mentioned that this was his own personal opinion since he was asked that specific question by the reporter. He further mentioned that he could be wrong but that was how he felt. That part was conveniently omitted by espn. More concerning for me is the way the lakers organization has got rattled with this outside noise. Magic gave the previous regime all the garbage he could dish out. Did he show solidarity with the lakers at that time? Didn’t he have his....


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Fwiw- Lavar might have just saved Walton from getting fired since the team is going to rally behind him. He was on the hot seat with the appalling record before the Lavar episode surfaced. Lol


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The ESPN reporter went to Lithuania and asked those questions to Lavar. He answered them directly. He also mentioned that this was his own personal opinion since he was asked that specific question by the reporter. He further mentioned that he could be wrong but that was how he felt. That part was conveniently omitted by espn. More concerning for me is the way the lakers organization has got rattled with this outside noise. Magic gave the previous regime all the garbage he could dish out. Did he show solidarity with the lakers at that time? Didn’t he have his....


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IhatetheCeltics wrote:
He was not on the hot seat. Several reporters have said he isn’t. What fans think isn’t always what the organization thinks.

Yeah,all reports say he wasn't anywhere close to being on hot seat. Even Jeanie twitted her support over holidays.


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... I think Magic is doing a worse job than him (Jim Buss)...

Comon now JJ. Giving away a decades worth of draft picks for a broken down old guard? Signing useless players like Dung and Vodka for long-term franchise-player salaries? And that is just off the top of my head. Jimbo was so bad I forgot how bad he was.

Let's not ever forget how horrendous he was. And Kuppy as his "Yes Man."


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Comon now JJ. Giving away a decades worth of draft picks for a broken down old guard? Signing useless players like Dung and Vodka for long-term franchise-player salaries? And that is just off the top of my head. Jimbo was so bad I forgot how bad he was.

Let's not ever forget how horrendous he was. And Kuppy as his "Yes Man."

Yeah, it will be hard enough for them just to get team out of the mess Jimbo made.


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Very well said.

I understand Deng is not part of the future but I can't think of a worse way of trying to get him traded. They could have gave him minutes and showcased him to try bait some team towards trade deadline. No takers, then shut him down.

Now the talk is they will stretch him which is the worst thing you can do. Dead cap and potentially paying luxury taxes on it. That's crazy.

I mean showcase him and try to up his value. How do you shut him down and make his contract dead weight? It will easier now to move an expiring contract than it was before. Deng would probably also realize that this his last shot to play for an nba team and would try to give maximum effort. Plus he was hired primarily for locker room stability and mentoring the youngsters and right now the youngest team in the nba needs that desperately.


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Yeah,all reports say he wasn't anywhere close to being on hot seat. Even Jeanie twitted her support over holidays.
They were also talking about recreating showtime with Randle, Nance and jC (with Ball at the point) at the KCP signing news conference. I can post a vid if you want. Lol. Jeannie showed support at that time as well fwiw. Looks like all three could be gone (along with KCP who i expect to walk) next year. Lol. Who would have thought they were anywhere close to trading away those players at that news conference? Walton would....


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They were also talking about recreating showtime with Randle, Nance and jC (with Ball at the point) at the KCP signing news conference. I can post a vid if you want. Lol. Jeannie showed support as well fwiw. Looks like all three could be gone along with KCP next year. Lol. Who would have thought they were anywhere close to trading away those players at that news conference?

Walton would then remain the only one from the previous regime. Let’s see how that one plays out.

Guess we'll find out, but I really think they'll give Luke time to put team together that fits his system more or at least try upgrade the talent. But than again ,who knows with these guys and you couldbe spot on.

As far as those players, I never thought Randle would be on Lakers his whole career when they drafted him. Hell, rumors were, they didn't really want him , and tried to trade pick that year during draft night.


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Guess we'll find out, but I really think they'll give Luke time to put team together that fits his system more or at least try upgrade the talent. But than again ,who knows with these guys and you couldbe spot on.

As far as those players, I never thought Randle would be on Lakers his whole career when they drafted him. Hell, rumors were, they didn't really want him , and tried to trade pick that year during draft night.

Even I never thought Randle(and JC) would last here but then there was no need for Magic to say he would be an integral part of the showtime ver 2.0 team at the news conference. He even challenged him to come in shape for this season and he obliged. He challenged JC to pick up the 6th man of the year award. Just like you said it’s hard to believe anything they say.

That’s why I don’t believe these guys when they say Luke is the coach for the long term. And it’s nothing to do with what Lavar says. I believe Magic really had a lot of disdain for Jim and will try to cut off all links with all their hires. Similar to what Jim did when he cut off ties with Phil and his coaching staff. Jim tried to install his own imprint and I fear Magic is going to follow suit. Who knows he might just succeed, or history just repeats itself.


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Comon now JJ. Giving away a decades worth of draft picks for a broken down old guard? Signing useless players like Dung and Vodka for long-term franchise-player salaries? And that is just off the top of my head. Jimbo was so bad I forgot how bad he was.

Let's not ever forget how horrendous he was. And Kuppy as his "Yes Man."

A decade worth of picks?? Have we even lost a pick yet for Nash? 😂 Let's see: Randle... Russell... Ingram... Ball... �" What decade are we losing these picks? 2030s?

Btw, Magic is doing everything that you used to accuse Buss of! But this time we know their plan, BECAUSE THEY ADMIT IT IN EVERY INTERVIEW! And then we all discuss it on here, and then respecatable Insiders like Woj give us the same insight. It's a very small sample size, but so far it's been a joke.

You want to compare signing Deng & Mozgov (which a bunch of these people on here really liked at the time!) to attempting to traDe away the majority of our best young players to chase old superstars that'll never get us a ring? That's like treason! Did somebody else hire Magic to secretly come in and destroy the franchise even more when it looked like we were going to start to turn things around?

Russell, Clarkson, Nance & Randle. Can you imagine if one year ago Magic said, "I'm gonna come in and trade all those guys away so we can have the potential to chase after a 33 year player that the majority of our fan base hates more than any other NBA player, ever?"

Yeah, great plan!


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Yeah, it will be hard enough for them just to get team out of the mess Jimbo made.

Out?? Lol, we're in the middle of watching them make it worse.


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A decade worth of picks?? Have we even lost a pick yet for Nash? 😂 Let's see: Randle... Russell... Ingram... Ball... �" What decade are we losing these picks? 2030s? Btw, Magic is doing everything that you used to accuse Buss of! But this time we know their plan, BECAUSE THEY ADMIT IT IN EVERY INTERVIEW! And then we all discuss it on here, and then respecatable Insiders like Woj give us the same insight. It's a very small sample size, but so far it's been a joke. You want to compare signing Deng & Mozgov (which a bunch of these people....


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Hey some guy became President by not paying his bills. LaVar is learning from the best!


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If those are best young players, than we're not getting close to a ring anytime soon. BI ,Kuz, Zo are best young players. Randle, Clarkson, Nance are rotation players. My only problem with trading them is every team in league knows what your doing and is going to try to love ball you. And this definitely doesn't sound good:

Tell us more about that love ball 😛


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Tell us more about that love ball 😛

Lol, low ball you.


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Laughing my a** off at people blaming Magic and Rob for the sh*t show and roster management of the previous regime ... dudes have barely been here a year... can't make this up


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Laughing my a** off at people blaming Magic and Rob for the sh*t show and roster management of the previous regime ... dudes have barely been here a year... can't make this up

Is there anything that says they are going to be successful? What makes you confident they are going to succeed? Magic wasn't exactly a great coach so what makes you think he will be a competent GM?


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Is there anything that says they are going to be successful? What makes you confident they are going to succeed? Magic wasn't exactly a great coach so what makes you think he will be a competent GM?

The thing I find most strange and hilarious at the same time is the fact that they have already declared who would be made available for the trade deadline.

Front offices around the league usually don’t divulge such things before the deadline cause: a) It affects the spirit and morale of the players and team chemistry b) How can you expect good returns when other execs already know what’s on the table. They will obviously low ball you...like KK was alluding to above.

Such things are kept under wraps and only discussed with trading partners during the trade deadline. There is a limit when it comes to being too transparent. This is no longer the Stephen A Smith show.

I’m still giving them their time and quite frankly they deserve it. They might just pull out the rabbit out of the hat. Lol. However that does not mean we keep a blind eye and look the other way, when we see nonsense happening right in front of our eyes. So far they have been treading the same path as the previous regime. At least the previous regime kept things close to their chest even though they were horrible.

When you compliement your franchise Pg with ace shooters like KCP, Nance and Lopez in an uptempo system...Houston we have a problem. Lol.


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The thing I find most strange and hilarious at the same time is the fact that they have already declared who would be made available for the trade deadline.

Front offices around the league usually don’t divulge such things before the deadline cause: a) It affects the spirit and morale of the players and team chemistry b) How do expect good returns when other execs already know what’s on the table. They will obviously low ball you...like KK was alluding to above.

Such things are kept under wraps and only discussed with trading partners during the trade deadline. There is a limit when it comes to being too transparent. This is no longer the Stephen A Smith show.

I’m still giving them their time and quite frankly they deserve it. They might just pull out the rabbit out of the hat. Lol. However that does not mean we keep a blind eye and look the other way, when we see nonsense happening right in front of our eyes. So far they have been treading the same path as the previous regime. At least the previous regime kept things close to their chest even though they were horrible.

When you compliement your franchise Pg with ace shooters like KCP, Nance and Lopez in an uptempo system...Houston we have a problem. Lol.

People who support the new FO, do so or at least Imo are doing so because of blind Faith. That's why I asked, what makes you think they are going to be successful. None of their moves have been well thought out.

In a game of poker you don't announce that you are going all in with 3 of a kind. You are only getting called by a better hand. I just don't understand the logic of their decisions.

How the hell can you tell Deng he isn't part of the team anymore and then expect to find a trade partner?

How can you be so naive and get caught up in a tampering case with one of the better free agents this summer.

How can you expect team chemistry and togetherness by telling the world you want cap space in the summer.

All we get is responses similar to teagle's, lmao blaming this fo hahaha.


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People who support the new FO, do so or at least Imo are doing so because of blind Faith. That's why I asked, what makes you think they are going to be successful. None of their moves have been well thought out.

In a game of poker you don't announce that you are going all in with 3 of a kind. You are only getting called by a better hand. I just don't understand the logic of their decisions.

How the hell can you tell Deng he isn't part of the team anymore and then expect to find a trade partner?

How can you be so naive and get caught up in a tampering case with one of the better free agents this summer.

How can you expect team chemistry and togetherness by telling the world you want cap space in the summer.

All we get is responses similar to teagle's, lmao blaming this fo hahaha.

To be fair, they also supported Mitch as well right until he got fired. Lmao!! It’s only when he was gone that some people turned against him. Oh yeah the Mozgov/Deng signings also started the revolt. Lol.

Do you remember Pelinka’s introductory speech at the KCP news conference? He referrred to him as “Manna sent from heaven.” ROFL!!!

https://www.google.com/amp/ftw.usatoday ... erence/amp

Don’t get me wrong I think KCP is a really fine player and has a role in any nba team, but he’s not bread falling from heaven. Plus he might just be gone next year.


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Tempy wrote:
Is there anything that says they are going to be successful? What makes you confident they are going to succeed? Magic wasn't exactly a great coach so what makes you think he will be a competent GM?

I'm not saying they will but I'm definitely giving them more than year to get the players they want. I mean we've s*cked for awhile now , I see the light at the end of the tunnel now ... before I didn't. Trust me , if we get Cousins and LEBRON with some shooters , we can make noise. We're not winning jack with Clarkson , Randle , or Nance .. all just role players on terrible teams

People did the same thing with Friedman from the Dodgers. He had a plan , took him some time but he got us to the show, just came up short .

I'm willing to give them more time to see who he gets to mesh with the young guys ( the ones they've drafted ).


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If those are best young players, than we're not getting close to a ring anytime soon. BI ,Kuz, Zo are best young players. Randle, Clarkson, Nance are rotation players. My only problem with trading them is every team in league knows what your doing and is going to try to low ball you. And this definitely doesn't sound good:
First of all, I said majority, not all of our best young players. I would absolutely count those three in the group of our best young players. Secondly, I do expect Ingram & Ball to become our two best players eventually,....


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Laughing my a** off at people blaming Magic and Rob for the sh*t show and roster management of the previous regime ... dudes have barely been here a year... can't make this up

Wait the previous regime traded Russell? You mean when people blame Magic and Rob for saying they are keeping cap space to chase 2 max free agents, that they'll be active in trades, and then Woj says Randle, Nance & Clarkson have been made available? What does the previous regime have to do with any of that?... can't make this up.


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Wait the previous regime traded Russell? You mean when people blame Magic and Rob for saying they are keeping cap space to chase 2 max free agents, that they'll be active in trades, and then Woj says Randle, Nance & Clarkson have been made available? What does the previous regime have to do with any of that?... can't make this up.

And what has Russell done this year? Nothing ... and Moz? Nothing

What's your point?

I'll tell you right now ... if we had 2 max guys on our roster , we wouldn't be where we are now ... facts.


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First of all, I said majority, not all of our best young players. I would absolutely count those three in the group of our best young players. Secondly, I do expect Ingram & Ball to become our two best players eventually, but right now Clarkson & Randle have been our best players this season.

Randle has definitely been our best player. He's not a consistent star yet, but he plays solid almost every game and every couple of games he plays like an all-star. Can't say that about anyone else on this team, YET. Kuzma looks great, for a rookie, I expect Ingram to become a poor man's Durant, and you can tell Ball will be great. But they aren't that great yet. Nance is a rotational player at best. Agree with you there.

Randle has played better this season, but star!!! Just No !! If he ever improves his shooting ( just a mid-range shot would be nice) ,than maybe. And Randle hasn't been solid almost everything game this season, look down right terrible on defense early in year, and still has night where he looks bad on that end. Do get why people ,not just you JJ, keep trying to make him put to be something he wasn't supposed to be coming out of draft. He was protected to be a good rotation player , 3rd or 4th opt on good team.

But like I said on another thread, if I'm Lakers I'd try keeping him if price is right. But he definitely has to work on getting a shot away from basket (like Aaron Gordon has in Orlando) , he gets there and we can talk about star !!!! Imo


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I'm not saying they will but I'm definitely giving them more than year to get the players they want. I mean we've s*cked for awhile now , I see the light at the end of the tunnel now ... before I didn't. Trust me , if we get Cousins and LEBRON with some shooters , we can make noise. We're not winning jack with Clarkson , Randle , or Nance .. all just role players on terrible teams

People did the same thing with Friedman from the Dodgers. He had a plan , took him some time but he got us to the show, just came up short .

I'm willing to give them more time to see who he gets to mesh with the young guys ( the ones they've drafted ).

So you see a post prime LBJ and Cousins making noise in a brutal west, when LBJ, Irving, Love and a great 3 point shooting roster almost got swept in the finals.

If that's the plan the franchise is f***Ed.


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And what has Russell done this year? Nothing ... and Moz? Nothing

What's your point?

I'll tell you right now ... if we had 2 max guys on our roster , we wouldn't be where we are now ... facts.

Um that's speculation. It hasn't happened so how is it fact? Lol


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So you see a post prime LBJ and Cousins making noise in a brutal west, when LBJ, Irving, Love and a great 3 point shooting roster almost got swept in the finals.

If that's the plan the franchise is f***Ed.

Don't know about LBJ, but what do they do? Just keep drafting and hope young guys turn into stars, and wait to GS gets old. Lol


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Don't know about LBJ, but what do they do? Just keep drafting and hope young guys turn into stars, and wait to GS gets old. Lol

I've got no problem with trying to bring in a star, but you don't throw max money at a player past his prime coming to the end of his career. If he was the piece that makes them contenders sure why not. But he ain't.

Teams that win championships have balanced rosters. Do the players they sign this summer have to be superstars, or would 1 star with players that compliment that star be a better solution?

Look at OKC and the trouble they are going through, just signing stars and hoping they mesh is not a strategy for success. It's why the Spurs have been so good for so long.


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I've got no problem with trying to bring in a star, but you don't throw max money at a player past his prime coming to the end of his career. If he was the piece that makes them contenders sure why not. But he ain't.

Teams that win championships have balanced rosters. Do the players they sign this summer have to be superstars, or would 1 star with players that compliment that star be a better solution?

Look at OKC and the trouble they are going through, just signing stars and hoping they mesh is not a strategy for success. It's why the Spurs have been so good for so long.

The OKC parallel is very pertinent and makes most logical sense. The difference being, they were very patient with the rebuild and we now know what they eventually turned out to be. We on the other hand would probably never know what our young crop could turn out to be as lakers, since most of them might not even be here. Lol.

If you saw OKC’s record in the first couple of years, you would be fooled into believing that you were watching a glorified D-league team(it was not Gleague then). None of those players remotely looked like they would morph into superstars. They displayed flashes of brilliance but were highly inconsistent. Typical traits exhibited by a young team.

FO (and fans) are handling the growing pains in a very haphazard and impatient manner. Threads like these tell you how impatient and star crazy fans have become. They might post or say the right things on forums, but in their hearts they are fking impatient and craving for a star.

Minnesota just needed a Butler to put them over the top. Don’t chase current stars who will stunt the growth of future stars. Start with getting a center like Cousins and then address the most urgent need of surrounding Ball with multiple knock down shooters and guys that can create their own shot and play off the ball. No ball stoppers. Next make a run at Klay Thomson. This front office is under the illusion that all the stars should be pursued in 2018. Make incremental improvements. Don’t go for home runs.....yikes where have I heard that before? LMAO!!!


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So you see a post prime LBJ and Cousins making noise in a brutal west, when LBJ, Irving, Love and a great 3 point shooting roster almost got swept in the finals.

If that's the plan the franchise is f***Ed.

It doesn't have to be LEBRON , it can be George .

The front office does not value some of the young guys that Mitch drafted like some fans do. Next years free agent class is not great minus a few stars.


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Um that's speculation. It hasn't happened so how is it fact? Lol


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kkennon1 wrote:
Don't know about LBJ, but what do they do? Just keep drafting and hope young guys turn into stars, and wait to GS gets old. Lol

I mean this would be different than when Mitch and Jim went Star chasing for a broken down Howard and Nash ... Cousins and Gerorge are in their primes. Bron has 2-3 more years of elite play

Randle and Clarkson aren't taking us anywhere. Ball, Kuz and Ingram it's still to be determined .

We need some stud young Vets to ease the workload


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I've got no problem with trying to bring in a star, but you don't throw max money at a player past his prime coming to the end of his career. If he was the piece that makes them contenders sure why not. But he ain't.

Teams that win championships have balanced rosters. Do the players they sign this summer have to be superstars, or would 1 star with players that compliment that star be a better solution?

Look at OKC and the trouble they are going through, just signing stars and hoping they mesh is not a strategy for success. It's why the Spurs have been so good for so long.

Ok , so your issue is with LEBRON coming. I actually don't like or want LEBRON personally. I would rather go with a younger guy in George. But I think LEBRON is coming for some reason .

If they sign some middle of the road free agent next year , we'd be exactly where we are now .

Thank good they weren't able to sign George Hill.


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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
The OKC parallel is very pertinent and makes most logical sense. The difference being, they were very patient with the rebuild and we now know what they eventually turned out to be. We on the other hand would probably never know what our young crop could turn out to be as lakers, since most of them might not even be here. Lol.

If you saw OKC’s record in the first couple of years, you would be fooled into believing that you were watching a glorified D-league team(it was not Gleague then). None of those players remotely looked like they would morph into superstars. They displayed flashes of brilliance but were highly inconsistent. Typical traits exhibited by a young team.

FO (and fans) are handling the growing pains in a very haphazard and impatient manner. Threads like these tell you how impatient and star crazy fans have become. They might post or say the right things on forums, but in their hearts they are fking impatient and craving for a star.

Minnesota just needed a Butler to put them over the top. Don’t chase current stars who will stunt the growth of future stars. Start with getting a center like Cousins and then address the most urgent need of surrounding Ball with multiple knock down shooters and guys that can create their own shot and play off the ball. No ball stoppers. Next make a run at Klay Thomson. This front office is under the illusion that all the stars should be pursued in 2018. Make incremental improvements. Don’t go for home runs.....yikes where have I heard that before? LMAO!!!

I agree with your post 100% ... Cousins would be my #1 target ... period

I knew the OKC thing would not work .. they have 2 ball hogs in Westbrook and Melo ....George is just standing around waiting for the scrap points to come his way

I think it would be smart to wait for Klay. But if they only sign one max next year , a bunch off Laker fans would not be happy with hoarding the cap space again. And you don't want to give some average bench player 15 mil a year and be tied to him for a long period of time .


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Cousins to me would not be a good signing. You have to think about fit. They want to play a fast-paced, up and down style. That's how the entire roster is built right now. Cousins doesn't fit that at all. There are certain players who are so talented that you overlook the fit and just get them. If you can sign prime Shaq or LeBron, then the gameplan of how you want to play goes out the window. But to me Cousins is not that. Not sold they're going all in this year anyways. Magic has hinted they might preserve their space for 2019 if they don't like the guys available.


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TERRY-TEAGLE wrote:
I mean this would be different than when Mitch and Jim went Star chasing for a broken down Howard and Nash ... Cousins and Gerorge are in their primes. Bron has 2-3 more years of elite play

Randle and Clarkson aren't taking us anywhere. Ball, Kuz and Ingram it's still to be determined .

We need some stud young Vets to ease the workload

I have no problem with LBJ, he is a future Hof player but he ain't going to do anything for the Lakers.

Let's say they sign PG13 instead. OKC have Westbrook, PG13, Melo and are 6th in the West. How does PG13, Ball and Ingram do any better than that? Unless 6th seed is what you meant about making noise?

They didn't just go star chasing for D12 and Nash, when Howard walked and Gasol said adios, that's when they got cap space. They chased Melo, Durant, Aldridge, LBJ, Monroe, DeRozan, Barnes, Bazemore etc. Granted some didn't even want to hear their pitch but it is no different now than it was then.

Stripping the roster of all assets and striking out in free agency is basically going back to step 1 of the rebuild. Which is very possible.


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IhatetheCeltics wrote:
Cousins to me would not be a good signing. You have to think about fit. They want to play a fast-paced, up and down style. That's how the entire roster is built right now. Cousins doesn't fit that at all. There are certain players who are so talented that you overlook the fit and just get them. If you can sign prime Shaq or LeBron, then the gameplan of how you want to play goes out the window. But to me Cousins is not that. Not sold they're going all in this year anyways. Magic has hinted they might preserve their space for 2019 if they don't like the guys available.

Cousins is the only center out of the current crop of centers who is as deadly at the post, as he is from the perimeter. He is a freak of nature. No other player besides Shaq has been so dominant in recent times. He runs the floor hard and is extremely athletic for his size. If you want to talk about the mental aspect then yeah that area is suspect. But there is no denying his talent. Artest was a far bigger head case than Boogie, arguably the biggest head case ever. But we still took the gamble on him and he retired as a Laker champ.

We don’t have many options in free agency at the C position. I would even take him over AD since AD is always hurt along with Embiid. Towns is locked for now so that is no option. Who else is left? The fo will be foolish if they ignore or overlook the opportunity to get Boogie. Boogie has never worked with a personality like Magic. Shaq was nothing until he met Phil(and J.West). Not comparing the two but you need a winner to have a winning mentality. If lakers don’t show interest in Cousins I would have issues with the front office.


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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
Cousins is the only center out of the current crop of centers who is as deadly at the post, as he is from the perimeter. He is a freak of nature. No other player besides Shaq has been so dominant in recent times. He runs the floor hard and is extremely athletic for his size. If you want to talk about the mental aspect then yeah that area is suspect. But there is no denying his talent. Artest was a far bigger head case than Boogie, arguably the biggest head case ever. But we still took the gamble on him and he retired as a Laker champ.

We don’t have many options in free agency at the C position. I would even take him over AD since AD is always hurt along with Embiid. Towns is locked for now so that is no option. Who else is left? The fo will be foolish if they ignore or overlook the opportunity to get Boogie. Boogie has never worked with a personality like Magic. Shaq was nothing until he met Phil(and J.West). Not comparing the two but you need a winner to have a winning mentality. If lakers don’t show interest in Cousins I would have issues with the front office.

Totally agree, except part about talking him over AD, if AD was available. Lol


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Totally agree, except part about talking him over AD, if AD was available. Lol

Agree there with you however I firmly believe that the “best ability is availability.”

Wherein you are available to play the entire season. In and out of the roster is also detrimental to team chemistry and offensive/defensive rhythm. Team has to adjust to playing without you and then readjust to incorporate you back in the lineup.

As much as AD is supremely talented, he is invariably out every other week.


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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
Agree there with you however I firmly believe that the “best ability is availability.”

Wherein you are available to play the entire season. In and out of the roster is also detrimental to team chemistry and offensive/defensive rhythm. Team has to adjust to playing without you and then readjust to incorporate you back in the lineup.

As much as AD is supremely talented, he is invariably out every other week.

Now all we have to do is hope Pels fall out of playoff race. I'll also be rooting for Wolves against OKC tonight. Lol


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