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Pete, Kkennon1 and any other NFL fans here:

Tomorrow is the day we have all been waiting so long for. It's the start of training camp for the new NFL season. Dreams will be chased, revenge will be sought and hope springs eternal in every NFL city, but in the end only one team will know the joy of winning it all while the others will wallow in the misery of falling short.

Let the long, brutal path to glory begin with the hot, muggy camps of July and August.

Gentlemen, start your quarterbacks! Football is about to begin.


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Man I'm ready to go and will actually be at the Cowboys versus Eagles at Jerry World in November.....


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Damn, Pete. Great game, great rivalry and a huge one in the division between two teams that some "experts" have picked to win it, then throw in Wentz vs Prescott. it doesn't get any better.


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Wasn't impressed with Taco in the HOF game...not a bit. Showed no separation getting off of blocks at all. Hope to see better.


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Yeah, he's really raw still. Hoping he'll make a lot of improvement , we'll need him with all the suspensions. Lol


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I hate to see Zeke get a 6 game suspension. I guess with the Ray Rice fiasco the league wants to send a message and Zeke hasn't done himself any favors by his actions. However, I don't think this is the end of it. I since Jerry Jones will be appealing and going after the league hard. They have 3 business days to appeal. Stay tuned.


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Pete,

Wouldn't hold my breath on a lessening of the punishment even with Jones working on it.

Goodell wouldn't budge an inch on Brady even with the powerful Kraft who was a good friend of the commish trying his best. That was about deflated football's.

They got burned bad by the Rice fiasco. The NFL was humiliated and looked like a caveman outfit. No way they are gonna lower a abuse of woman case punishment. Ever.

He's gonna serve the full six.

On the football side at least Dallas has very capable back up running backs who would start on some teams and one of the best offensive lines in the game. Losing Zeke hurts, but they are uniquely qualified to wether the 6 game storm as almost no teams are.

Also will give us a look at what Dak can do to carry a team without Zeke.


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^^^

Yeah you're right. No excuses.


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Yeah you're right. No excuses.

On the upside Pete, we might get our 1st look at Jaylen Smith this Saturday.


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On the upside Pete, we might get our 1st look at Jaylen Smith this Saturday.

He looked great....


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Hey SPQR,

Did you watch Terrence Crawford on ESPN tonight, 8/19? If you didn't, you missed a great exhibition boxing match. Body punch in the 3rd round TKO by Crawford. He got all 5 belts in the junior welterweight. ...unified.


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Pete,

I did watch. I've been making an effort to get back in the fight game the last year.

I can now see why you mentioned him in the Mayweather McGregor thread.

Man you rarely see body shot KOs especially of a better quality opponent. He just took Indongo apart and broke him down in short order. Very impressive.

I'd like to see him fight again.


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SPQR,

You're going to love him. He's a throwback to the earlier days of Hagler, Ray Leonard, Hearns, etc. He's suppose to be moving up slightly in weight. Can't wait.....And remember, he can fight south paw or right hand. Most fighters counter south paw fighters by leading with their left and following with their right. He doesn't do that. He fights south paw with south paw.


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The first big injury that could have playoff impact took place last night when the great and seemingly uncoverable Julian Edelman of the Patriots tore his ACL and will miss the season.

He is Brady's go to guy and it seems like every time they need a first down to keep the chains moving Brady finds him. They always seem to make that big play.

NE has other weapons and the great Brady but make no mistake when you take away their best wide receiver and the man Brady trust's, knows and goes to when they just have to have that crucial completion, that is a huge injury. Not trying to plan for him or attempt to cover him really makes things a whole lot easier for every team they face and all the stronger playoff teams that will face them in the playoffs.

I always hate injuries, even though this helps my Steelers I really hate to see this happen.

The other injury that had ramifications was of course Miami QB Ryan Tannyhill going down for the season. But I don't rank that on par with Edleman because I didn't consider the Dolphins true superbowl contender's and I consider replacement Jay Cutler on Tannyhills level.

The Pats also lost their first draft pick, pass rushing DE Derek Rivers for the year with injury,

Not a good start for the defending champs.


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With the regular season now less than two weeks away, the team in the news the last two days has been my own Steelers. Tuesday they traded for 49ers tight end and former second round pick Vance McDonad and today they signed two time pro bowl corner Joe Haden who was cut by the Brown's after two injury plagued seasons.

The Steelers literally signed Harden 21 minutes after he was cut. This shows how badly they wanted him and they locked him up with a three year 27 million dollar deal. The fact he rejected even larger offers from lessor teams also shows how badly he wants to play for a contender after seven years of purgatory in Cleveland. A real meeting of the minds and goals right there.

The Steelers knew after camp two of their biggest weaknesses were tight end and a cover press corner and the fact they went a very atypical route for them in both cases shows how serious the front office feels this is the year to win it all.

The Steelers are abandoning their old Tampa zone defense after Brady again demolished it in the AFC title game and are now determined to play a physical man cover game with their secondary. They think they have one of those corners in last year's number one pick Artie Burns and damn well knew they didn't have one on the other side with Ross Cockrell, hence the move for Harden.

I applaud both moves by the team even if they fail. This team is right there on the cusp of a title and it's great to see the front office go all in to make that championship happen.

It's all a fan of any team can ask for.

Am I ready for some football? Hell yeah!


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The precipice of a lovely new NFL season is upon us. The interminable preseason is over and now all the games count starting next week.

Let's take a look at the division, who are the real contenders and who are already out.

There are some divisions where the results, barring injury seem pretty cut and dry. Others where we can expect exciting races down to the wire.

First the putative runaways:

In the AFC East New England should run away with it again. This is a combination of their ability and deficiencies of the teams there. The loss of Edelman will hurt. The Pats will find work arounds with other talented players on offense and the incomparable Brady the helm but if Gronk goes out for the season again at some point, they will reach the vulnerable stage against playoff team.

In the AFC North the Steelers should pull away. In Brown, Bryant and Bell they have the most talented and explosive starting offensive trio in the game. To secure it all is one of the best lines in the league. Baltimore looks like they will have a killer defense so they are one team that may keep close. If they have an offense it could get interesting. The questions for the Steelers are can they successfully switch to man coverage, abandoning their cherished zone that Brady ate up in the AFC title game last year and can the erratic Big Ben, especially on the road, be good enough to take full advantage of the supreme weapons at this disposal? If both answers are yes, the Steelers will roll to the division and be a monster team come playoff time. The Steelers brought in former pro bowl corner and Joe Haden and JJ Wilcox to sure up a secondary that Brady torched. The Steelers are all in to win it this year.

In the NFC West Seattle looks head and shoulders above a weak crop. The two questions here are as usual, a suspect offensive line and the height limitations that keep Russell Wilson from being a true franchise QB. Neither of those issues should prevent them from taking the West title.

In the NFC North, I'll take Green Bay, again. You know, Rodgers and that offense are hard to pick against in a mediocre division. There are various evaluations of the Vikings, some say they will be middling to bad, others like Sports Illustrated have them winning the division and going to the NFC title game. I'll take Rodgers over Bradford and question marks any time.

In the NFC South Atlanta should repeat as champs, bucking the trend of Super Bowl losers bombing out the next season. This is a superbly talented team on both sides of the ball with very good coaching. Ryan was last years MVP.

Now for the toss up divisions.

In the AFC West you have surging Oakland battling the always tough Chiefs. The big questions with the Raiders are will their pathetic defense from last year improve and can they get the monkey of the KC off their backs? KC has not only owned the Raiders the last few years but have made the normally super charged Carr look more like a rusty, sputtering, 68 4 cylinder Volkswagen.

If the Raiders can solve those issues they will take the division, if not it will be KC relegating the Raiders to what may be a very tough wild card race.

In the AFC South I will go with a newbie, the Tennessee Titans. They have a very solid team, good defense, great offensive line, good skill players. If Mariotta can take the next step up I think they will grab the South.

A team to watch is Houston. With apologies to Seattle, they have the best defense if football. They alone are best equipped to play the diamond defense, rushing only four or three players and still getting massive pressure, thanks to Watt, Whitney Mercilus and Clowney. How effective is this? Just look at last years playoff game with New England, a game they could have won had they had a quarterback. And it's that question that still hangs over them. If starter Tom Savage or first round draft pick Deshaun Watson can provide them with good play at that position, not only can they win the division but could suddenly become a threat to every team in the league, including the Patriots.

The Colts seem troubled again, mediocre talent and star QB who has an ailing shoulder. Hard to see them them making a run.

The other very interesting division is the NFC East. Dallas had a monster year last season behind a great line and super rookies Dak Prescott and Zeke Elliot.

Dallas should have another superb year. Dak should be one year better, and looked it in preseason. Zeke is still an unknown, not in talent, but because he is currently under a six game suspension. They have taken it to arbitration to reduce the punishment and NFL union has also filed an injunction to momentarily suspend the suspension. Fortunately for Dallas, they have tremendous back ups at the position who can and will thrive behind the holes that line will open.

Their main challenger is their bane of last year, the Giants who swept them and pinned two of their three losses on them. This team has improved bringing in more offensive talent and an even improved defense. This may be, this year, the best and baddest rivalry in the NFL. The erratic Manning's play will be a deciding factor in this very exciting race.

My top ten to start out, which is difficult to do given no games played yet. Of course there will be rapid changes here starting next week.

  1. Patriots. The champs, the best QB and coach in football. The questions, will gronk stay healthy, can Brady do it at 40 and how much will they miss Edelman?

  2. Steelers. Best offensive weapons in the league, bar none. Can Ben take full advantage? Can they ever beat the Pats when it counts? If this isn't the Steelers year, it's not going to happen under Ben.

  3. Atlanta. Should have and could have won the Superbowl last year except for a crazy decision to pass when they should have kicked the clinching field goal. You give the Pats one chance to beat you, they will and they did. Can they emotionally rebound from that devastating loss?

  4. Seattle. Still that great, great defense. Still has to carry a mediocre offense. They always do except playoff time when the teams get tougher and Wilson has to do more for them to win.

  5. Dallas. A great offensive line, great quarterback and great running back can take you a very long way. The questions here: Will Prescott take the next step (if he does, man, watch out!) what will happen with Zeke and how bad will the defense be?

  6. Raiders. Carr is becoming a premier QB. They have all the weapons he can play with on offense. The problem is the porous defense and question about whether Del Rio is the guy to take them to the next level. This year should answer both.

  7. Giants. Revamped, improved offense and defense. The FO did a great job. This team is primed for a big run.

  8. Green Bay. They have a solid team every year, especially on offense. They have Rodgers. Did I say, they have Rodgers?

  9. Chiefs. Same as it ever was. Great, ball hawking defense, terrific coach, mediocre QB in Smith.

  10. Tennessee. They have all the tools to be good. Good defense, great offensive line, good running game. It's all up to Mariotta now.

Teams to watch: Houston, Tampa, Carolina, Vikings, Ravens, Dolphins.

The first week has an abundance of great, vitally important games to excite any fan right off the bat.

The action gets going fast on Thursday night as the Patriots host KC in a battle of last years division winner. This game is much more important to KC in their battle with Oakland than it is for NE who will walk away with their division. It's almost impossible to win in Foxboro, which is bad news for the Chiefs and great news for the Raiders.

A good and important AFC North battle on Sunday as the Ravens travel to the Bengals. I want to see the Ravens defense, which is getting rave reviews.

Up and coming Tampa plays against wild card Miami.

The Raiders have a tough one in Tennessee. If they win that game they are off and running. The Titans look to be a rough team.

Philly plays Washington in a good division rivalry.

Seattle takes on old playoff foe Green Bay in a huge one. Nothing like watching the chess match between Rodgers and that defense. These teams don't like each other and Rodgers is also not a huge fan of his counterpart there Wilson. Nothing like a little hate to spice up an already great game.

Sunday night we end up with the monster match-up, Dallas at home vs the Giants. Nope it doesn't get any better than this for playoff implications and bragging rights. Dallas must take one of these games. If they get swept by the G men this year, it will cost them this time around.


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Man I really like what I saw from Deshone Kizer. Even though they lost by 3pts to the Steelers, that kid showed poise. Hue Jackson clearly should be a coordinator not a head coach.

Jared Goff looks pretty good spreading the ball around and not looking nervous in the pocket.

My goodness the Jags handing it to the Texans and Fournette running for 100 yds. Clealry HOU might as well let the rookie start at QB. Savage is terribleeee!!!!!!!

And 3rd Cousins'......sigh.....lol.

Hey but still only week 1 and counting.


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Pete,

Kizer did look nice. They received criticism for starting him this year but I totally agreed with that move. Next year's quarterback draft is loaded and they can't wait a year to find out if he is the man. They need to know this year.

Biggest surprise for me was Houston. What happened to that great D against offensivley challenged Jacksonville and Bortles? They would be nuts not to go with Watson now. They are dead with Savage.


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Yes HOU looked dead from the start. Maybe it's from having to deal with Hurricane Harvey, etc.


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Hey SPQR,

I thought that was so funny Big Ben trying to cut that guy down and then grabbing his leg like Jeff Van Gundy did to Alonzo Mourning....lmao!!!!.....Man I fell out of my seat laughing.....lol.


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Pete,

That was classic. Ben said on local radio that he was trying to protect his teammates, lol. Huh?

Some interesting results this week with some big surprises.

My Steelers looked lethargic on the road. Bell looked like a guy who missed all of training camp, which he did, Bryant looked like a guy who hadn't played football in a year, which he hadn't, Ben looked like a QB who had gotten two series in the preseason, which he did.

But what about the offensive line? One of the best units in football and they got outplayed by a defensive line that not really highly regarded.

They still had enough to pull out a 21-18 win in large part thanks to super man, Antonio Brown who just killed it with eleven catches for 182 yards and out jumped three defenders, all taller than him, for the game clinching bomb.

The defense looked pretty good considering all the new pieces they have in place, getting seven sacks. Rookie TJ Watt, JJ's brother had five solo tackles, two sacks and a pick. Nice debut. He actually played better than JJ, by a lot.

The offense will have to play a whole lot better against the Vikings this week or things could get ugly.

KC went into New England and kicked the Patriots around 42-27 as they made Alex Smith look like Dan Marino. The whole PatriotsB defense, run defense, pass rushing and secondary looked horrific. Brady obviously missed Edelman.

Is this the end of the Patriots? Way to early to say that and I suspect they will find answers, but some red flags arose in that game. They just don't have a single defender an offense has to game plan for. That is a big problem. Next weeks game in New Orleans should tell us more about that defense.

It was a great win by KC and they unvield super rookie running back Hunt who just tore through New England. But the win came with a horrible cost as super safety Eric Berry who shut down Gronk was lost for the year with an injury. That's going to hurt.

The Raiders showed real big by going to Tennessee and dominating a team many pick to win the AFC South. What really impressed was the Raiders actually showed a defense that contributed to the win. If the defense plays like that all year, watch out because they will be hell to beat.

Philly did well beating division rival Washington in Washington. The packers shut down Seattle's offense and Robert Wilson to win a big home game against their bitter rival. Seattle's offense and Wilson's limitations will once again be their biggest hurdle to winning another title.

Dallas got a huge monkey off their back by beating the Giants. If that is the Giants offense without Beckham, then he should ask for twenty million a year on his next contract. He better get back fast or the Giants will be in trouble week after week.

Houston had a huge letdown at home against pathetic Jacksonville and that loss has now propelled Deshaun Watson into the starters spot. Will be very interesting to see how he does.

Baltimore's defense looked hard as rock in shutting out the Bengals in Cincinnati.

The Vikings looked tremendous in manhandling New Orleans on both sides of the ball. They made life hell for Brees and Bradford was immaculate with his passing while rookie running back Dalvin Cook showed he is everything that was advertised.

The week ended up with a terrific division nail biter as Denver blocked a last second field goal to avoid overtime winning 24-21.

The best games in the coming week:

The Vikings visit the Steelers to try makes a second great impression. That looms as a very interesting match up.

Philadelphia, road winners last week go to house of hell, Kansas City to try pull out one of there. Good luck.

New England goes to the Big Easy. If they lose that game the talk will start in earnest. Let's see how the Patriots defense looks after last weeks debacle.

You have a great game in Dallas at Denver. That monster offensive line, Prescott and Elliot against one of the most aggressive and best defenses in football. Bring it on!

The other top shelf game is Green Bay at last years super bowl runner up Atlanta. Can you say 43-38? We might. That's the Sunday night game and every football fan in the country will be watching it.

My top ten this week:

  1. Steelers. 1-0. They better be a whole lot better than they looked at Cleveland. If not the Vikings will run them out this week.

  2. Atlanta. 1-0. Like the Steelers, they looked lethargic in a close win against bad Chicago. Like the Steelers, they better up their game big when they tangle with the Packers this week.

  3. Dallas. 1-0. Finally beat the Giants. Their reward? How about a trip to Mile High to play one of the best defenses in football. A very intriguing game. The irresistible force, the Dallas offense, versus the immovable object, Denver's defense.

  4. Raiders. 1-0. One of the top two impressive wins last week (with KC). They have a bye week now against the Jets.

  5. Kansas City. 1-0. Go into New England. Beat them by 14 and score 42. Easy right? They did it.

  6. New England. 0-1. Some Patriot fans on the internet were actually calling for Brady to be replaced by Garappalo. No kidding. Wow. They really do need to look better in New Orleans or soon the hometown fans will want Bellichick fired.

  7. Greenblatt. 1-0. Grinds down offensively inept Seattle. Tough trip to Atlanta next after such an emotional win over a hated rival.

  8. Vikings. 1-0. Bradford was a master, Cook a virtuoso and the defense a blunt hatchet as they ground up New Orleans in every possible way. Now a very tough trip to Pittsburgh. If they win that then this team is on it's way.

  9. Seattle. 0-1. Midget QB Wilson has trouble generating points, again

  10. Tennessee. Big loss at home to Oakland. Are they not as good as presumed or the Raiders just that elite?


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For some reason I'm less excited about season this year. Maybe to much NFL news year round. Or more likely Ball affect !!! Lol


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Man what a whooping my Cowboys took. But hey glad the Giants lost....lol.


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Pete,

That was a beating, on both sides of the ball. The first one they have had in the Zeke-Prescott era. Denver looks to be very real this year and they will bang up lots of good teams in Mile High. Be interesting to see how the Boy's bounce back from that one. I think they will just fine. The Giants on the other hand look as dead on offense as a team can be. No line. No running. No passing. I'm beginning to think your main rival this year may be the Eagle's and Wentz who is really impressing me.

Kkennon,

I hear you on Ball and i can't wait either but I wouldn't lose much enthusiasm for football or the Cowboys if I were you and I sure haven't for the Steelers or the NFL season. We both root for legit superbowl contender's. The Lakers, if they are real lucky and make a huge jump may, just may squeak into the playoffs at best and then eventually get beat. I will love watching Ball and the kids play this year but I know exactly how the script will end. I also know who will win the NBA title this year, as do you. Not so with the Steelers, Cowboy's or the NFL.


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Week three is over and we are starting to get just a shadow idea of who the top teams are.

Let's look at some of the more interesting match-ups last week.

My Steelers beat the Vikings 26-9 in a much anticipated game....that became a dud the moment it was revealed that Bradford was a no go. No one was more disappointed than me in that development. The Vikings never threatened to win it and without Bradford it couldn't happen.

KC won a close one at home 27-20 over a rapidly improving Eagles team and charging QB phenom Carson Wentz who looks like he could end up being very, very special.

New England showed they are not left for dead by going to New Orleans and putting on the biggest fireworks display since the fourth of July.

Denver showed a much improved offense to go with that monster D by just throttling the visiting Cowboys 42-17. It was pure statement by Denver who handled the Dallas offensive line, Dak Prescott and Zeke and made it look easy. It's not. Just ask all the teams who Dallas has destroyed last year. It was the most impressive win of week, by far and ranks right there with what KC did to New England.

Atlanta was almost as impressive in also dominating Green Bay on both sides of the ball winning 34-23.

We have some nice games coming up this week:

Atlanta goes to 2-0 Detroit who have shown a diversified offense and very nice defense. This is a big test for Detroit and hard game for Atlanta on the road after that emotional win against the Packers.

Tampa, which won it's first game travels to the Vikings. Bradford is supposed to play and if he does it will be interesting to see if the Vikings look as good as they did with him in week one.

New England hosts Houston in last years playoff rematch where Houston's Diamond defense gave the Patriots fits. The problem was lousy Osweiler couldn't give them any offense. Will rookie and conqueror of Alabama to win the NCAA title also be able to slay the dragon of the NFL?

Seattle and their putrid no show offense takes their great defense into Tennessee to battle a very well round Titans. Good pairing here. Big test for both teams. Can Tennessee beat one of the big boys? Is Seattle still a big boy with that offense?

Oakland takes the pyrotechnic show on the road against the Redskins who when they are on can score too. Could end up a basketball game.

Kansas City has to take that road torture test on the road in the brutal AFC West against the 0-2 Chargers who could just as easily be 2-0. But you know the Chargers, it's bad luck or no luck with them. If KC wins this one they are really a statement team in the young season.

My top ten this week has the Viking and Seattle leaving and the Broncos and Ravens alighting. Seattle comes out because of their razor thin win against the worst team in football, San Francisco. Their offense is as bad as any in the league right now yet the media keeps calling Wilson an elite QB. Why?

It was also my hardest week in picking numbers one through three in all the seasons I've done this. I mean really hard. You can actually take those three and put them in any order and have a case. And if I still didn't have serious doubts about Alex Smith which will be hard to ever shed, I would put KC right there too.

Here are the Quoll Top Ten:

  1. Steelers. 2-0. Thought about dropping them for under performing offense but will give them the short leash for one more week. They are tied for the league lead in sacks and are getting tremendous pressure with young players Hayward, Tuit, Watt, Dupree and Chickalo. So much so that old Silver back Harrison can't get on the field. But if they don't show more offensive fire power this week against Chicago, who does not have the Vikings great defense, they will be dropping next week if Atlanta and Oakland keep showing what they have been on offense.

  2. Atlanta. 2-0. Just destroyed Green Bay but lose Beasley for at least six week. Tough challenge in Detroit next.

  3. Raiders. 2-0. Finished their first bye week destroying the Jets 45-20. They are unstoppable on offense and one of the true few elite teams. But the defense watch continues. Play dangerous Washington on Sunday night. That is a defense test.

  4. Kansas City. They beat the rough, tough Eagles at home. Now they have to start the hard, long AFC West slog by visiting the Chargers who are so very hungry for a win.

  5. New England. 1-1. Brady silences Patriot idiots...I mean fans asking for his benching after game one by lighting up the Saints for over 400 passing yards and three touchdowns, in the first quarter. Not bad for a bum. Next up a match with the defense that gives them the most trouble, Houston's.

  6. Denver. 2-0. Makes the jump from nowhere to six on the back of their total dismantling of Dallas. Are they really as good as they looked? If they are, pity the Bills this week.

  7. Dallas. 1-1. They found out they can't run over every team in the league. Also found out they could be physically dominated on both sides of the ball. Will it make them better or shake them? Arizona should be a good salve for the wound this week.

  8. Green Bay. 1-1. After the nice win at home they get gutted by Atlanta on the road. An easier game this week at him against the Bengals. With their injuries they need it.

  9. Tennessee. 1-1. Big bounce back from Raider loss by trouncing Jacksonville. Now they go against one of the best defenses in the league as Seattle comes to town.

  10. Baltimore. 2-0. The defense looks as brutal as advertised. But they haven't faced a good team yet and they won't either at Jacksonville.

Teams right outside the hallowed ten: Seattle, Detroit, Carolina, Tampa, Vikings, Eagles.


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Yeah I know SPQR, think it's just getting to the point where NFL is becoming year round with all the social media, and NFL news all the time. Think that's maybe why rating have fallen off a little.

Plus the fact that these teams don't get the time they should have in off-season to prepare. Just seen some really sloppy football these 1st two weeks, even from the 2-0 teams. Imo


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Kkennon1,

Yep. The lack of preparation is killing teams. Especially offenses and offensive line play. Very ugly to watch. The ratings are dropping and I think that is a good part of it.

The NFL is in a bind now. These pratices are limited in the name of player safety. So if they try go back to the old way in the next CBA they will be called money grubbing hypocrites.

If the ratings keep dropping it will be interesting to see what their response is. My guess is they will institute even more restrictive rules on the defense to try elevate scoring yet again.


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Well, Hurricane Harvey hit Texas and Hurricane Irma mauled Florida and last Sunday Hurricane Upset wrecked havoc on the NFL and everyone's top ten list.

I honesty can't remember a week so filled with upsets, but not just upsets, it was how many top rated teams lost to so called bad or inferior ones: Pittsburgh-Chicago, Oakland-Washington, Baltimore-Jacksonville, Denver-Buffalo, Carolina-New Orleans. Wow.

My Steelers and big Hen laid another road egg against at a team they should have beaten, the Bears. The local media and team excuse this time was the national anthem controversy. I'm not buying. I've seen this road act many times over the last six years and it's a pattern not an aberration. I put a big part of it on Hen, who is slipping as a player and has been for years now. He does not look the quarterback who in his prime could carry a team on his back.

Washington looked the 85 Bears as their defense just pounded away on the Raiders offense. There is concern over Carr and his performance in big TV games. Like Hen on the road, Carr seems to be a different QB in these showcase, national events.

The Broncos followed up the most impressive win any team had in their beat down of Dallas by losing to the Bills on the road. Trevor Simien who looked so good against Dallas looked like a mediocre backup against Buffalo who are now 2-1. Is there something there with these Bills?

Cam Newton continued his abysmal play from last year throwing three more picks and handing the Saints their first win of the season and earning their first loss.

Baltimore looked like they left their team behind in American and let the cheerleaders play the Jaguars in London as they got humiliated 44-7.

Some games of note:

Tennessee really showed against Seattle, taking a big lead before hanging on to win 33-27. This is a good team.

Green Bay overcame a ton of injuries (whats new there, right?) to beat the Bengals in a close one, 27-24.

KC continued undefeated by winning a vital road division game over San Diego. KC looks like the most well rounded team in the league right now.

The Eagles beat the Giants and left the staggering New York team at 0-3 on already on the precipice of playoff elimination.

Case Keenum did his best week one Sam Bradford impersonation in just destroying Tampa 34-17. This Vikings team is very dangerous. They have a nice offense and great defense. If they can find a good QB who can stay healthy and play they have all the earmarks of a team that can go far in the playoffs.

The amazing Tom Brady covered up for the very porous Patriot defense by throwing the winning touchdown pass with 25 seconds left to take out Houston 36-33. Brady threw for 379 yards and five touchdowns against one of the best defenses in the league. What more can be said about the 40 year old? What more needs to be said? Probably a lot, lol.

Good thing for Deshaun Watson that Brady didn't play for Alabama last year or you know he would have found a way to steal that title game from him.

Atlanta pulled out a road win in tough Detroit, giving them their first loss. Atlanta, like KC, has the best body of work so far this year.

And Dallas came back from the Bronco debacle on the road beating Arizona 28-17. This team was Zeke's last year, right now it looks like Dak Prescots.

Next week offers some good fare:

The Steelers travel to the Ravens, the winner to be the AFC North leader. The Steelers have not fared well in Baltimore the last several years and both teams are coming off humiliating losses.

The resurgent Bills take on Atlanta in Atlanta. Hard to see the Bills pulling the upset this week.

The Rams take on the Cowboys in Dallas. I love what that 31 year old rookie coach Sean McVey is doing there. He has Goeff looking like a number one pick quarterback, the trade for Wadkins has been a gold mine and he has Gurly looking great again. But hard to see this young team winning over the powerful Cowboys in Big D. But the Rams are building something good.

Mike Martz, the author the greatest show on turf just ripped into McVey like crazy in his book, totally dismissing him as a fraud and then saying what can that guy teach Goeff or any QB? Maybe that's why Martz is unemployed now.

Tennessee can go a long way to winning that division if they can get by on the road against Houston.

Detroit travels to Minnesota in a very important NFC North battle. The winner will be 3-1.

Can New England's lousy defense get Cam Newton started? If it can't, what can? Will Brady throw another game winning touchdown? Sure, why wouldn't he?

The marque game by far is divisional match-up Oakland vs Denver in Mile High. Both teams lost games that figured to be wins last week. Who will rebound and who will fall to the dreaded 2-2? This game is what it's all about.

The Monday night game is interesting too, as Raider killers Washington try their luck with another AFC West power Kansas City. I don't look for Washington to turn the AFC West trick this time around.

I have to say this weeks top ten is the toughest I have every done in any season because of the upsets from last week. Let me give you just two examples of why this is so hard. The Steelers beat the Vikings pretty good last week but lost to lowly Chicago. The Vikings came back and trounced the Buccaneers. So should I rank them ahead of the Steelers? You tell me.

Denver beat Dallas as bad as you can beat a team, then lost to the Bills. So should they still rank ahead of Dallas?

See what I mean. And that is not factoring in just what to do with all the better teams that lost. How far do they drop and who should move ahead of them? It just rough.

I think it is safe to say that the top ten won't really be stabilized after what happened last Sunday until we get results from at least another three weeks.

That being said, here are my Quoll Top Ten for the week:

1. Atlanta. 3-0. Another nice win this time on the road against the undefeated Lions. Next up a home duel with 2-1 surprise conqueror of Denver, the Buffalo Bills.

2. Chiefs. 3-0. They probably have the most impressive body of work so far this year. Home game against the Washington should be win. The Skins will be deflated after the big Raiders upset and the Chiefs defense is not the Raiders defense...and they are at home.

3. New England. 2-1. The Patriots creep up toward their accustomed spot at the top but man that defense stinks. Can Brady keep covering for it until it improves...or if it never does?

4. Green Bay. 2-1. They pulled one out against the Bengals on the road but man those injuries will kill you eventually.

5. Tennessee. 2-1. Nice win over Seattle. Road game against division opponent Texans will tell if this team is ready to make a serious move.

6. Washington. 2-1. Blew out Oakland at home. Beating KC over there will be a tougher order.

7. Oakland. 2-1. Two problems for this team: Carr seems lost in big national games and Washington brought back nightmares of Raiders defense past. It doesn't get easier with a trip to hated division rival Denver.

8. Dallas. 2-1. Nice bounce back win over Arizona and Prescott seems to making this his team, not Zekes. A home game against the young, improving Rams will be fun to watch.

9. Steelers. 2-1. Punch-less road Steelers head to Baltimore to take their annual loss there.

10. Vikings. 2-1. They just crushed Tampa on both sides of the ball....with Case Keenum. Imagine if Bradford could every stay on the field?

Those right outside and knocking: Eagles, Detroit, Denver, Buffalo.

And that's the Quoll Top Ten for week three. Enjoy the games and good luck to your teams.


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That Steelers/Ravens game is going to be a back alley fight...Can't wait to see that.

Also want to see how my Cowboys fair against the high octane offense of the Rams.


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Horrible game by my Cowboys. Scott Linehan was awful as an OC, Dak seems to have regressed some and trying to force the ball to Dez is just tired. Not sure why Bryce Butler doesn't get way more PT. He's extremely better than Williams and can stretch the field like Alvin Harper use to do back in the Michael Irvin days. Just highly disappointed.

That being said the Steelers dropped the hammer on the Ravens, Bills beat the Falcons, Lions beat the Vikings, Carolina beat the Patriots...what the hell is going on...lmao.


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I blame the defense, they score 30 and give up 35. Definitely hurt that Sean Lee was out. Hopefully getting Irving back next week will help against Packers.


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That rookie Ram coach McVey is only 31. Dude is killing it. Coach of the year so far along with Buffalo's rookie head coach Sergeant Rock......er.... I mean McDermott.

I would blame the Dallas D mostly. That was covered up a lot last year by that amazing running game that kept the ball forever.

Dak will need to make some adjustments this year because teams have a year of film on him what he does well and what he doesn't.

Patriots have the worst defense in the league and I'm not sure there's much they can do about it. Just no play makers there. They will lose more games.

Pete the upsets keep coming and the Quoll Top Ten will once again have changes.

Right now KC looks like the best, well rounded team in the league.

How about Deshaun Watson? If he gives them an offense they are gonna be a big problem for everyone.


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Deshaun looked out of this world!!!!!!.....I really like that kid and hope he has much success.


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Week four is over and the upsets keep coming. We have heard about parity in the NFL for years but it really wasn't so but this more than any in history so far, that fable has come closest to reality.

We will start with my Steelers who moved to 3-1 by beating a horrible Ravens team in Baltimore. The Steelers should clinch that very bad division early and the only real race for them is for home field through out the playoffs.

In another of the big upsets of 2017 the Bills went into Atlanta and took them from the ranks of the undefeated winning 23-17.

The Rams went into Dallas and pulled another stunner winning 35-30 in a terrific game. They showed a lot coming from behind when it looked like Dallas had control. How about those two rookie coaches in Buffalo and LA? Right now they are at the top of the list for coach of the year taking what were horrible teams last year and surging to 3-1.

Man, Houston made a huge statement in the AFC South and to the whole AFC by just obliterating Tennessee 57-14. This was Watson's second start and the second time he has jump started that offense. If he can keep this up Houston becomes lethally dangerous for anyone.

Detroit won a huge division game in Minnesota as Bradford was out again. But this week, unfortunately for the Vikings, the real Case Keenum showed up behind center. Teddy Bridgewater, anyone?

Another shocker was Carolina winning in New England 33-30. The Patriots defense is so bad they made Carolina actually look like they can play offense, which they can't.

A stat about 40 year old Tom Brady I heard the other day: He has been hit more and sacked more than any QB this year. Despite that abuse he is on track right now to pass for over 5000 yards and 50 touchdowns....and no interceptions. You just have to shake your head.

Philadelphia is showing more and more they are for real beating the Chargers 26-24 In LA.

Denver squeaked by Oakland at home 16-10. Carr looked skittish against Denver as he often does in big games against good defenses. This was actually a knock on him coming out of college. It may be becoming a problem for him and the team.

The bigger news (for now anyway) is Carr hurt his back in this game and may miss 2 to 6 weeks. If it is two, they will survive. If it is four our more, they are done.

And the best team in league also remained the only undefeated one as KC beat Washington 29-20.

The best match-ups this week: Seattle takes their shot at the red hot Rams. The Rams have not faced any defense like this one. It's also a division game and Seattle is chasing them. It is a home game for the Rams. This is a very intriguing game.

New England tries to get their defense to rights traveling to Tampa. Tampa has good offensive weapons and can score, if Winston is throwing touch downs and not interceptions in any particular game. There is a chance for the Pats to go 2-3.

Green Bay goes to ancient rival Dallas. Their playoff game last year was a classic. They have butting heads in huge playoff games since the 60's and have done so many times over the decades. This is a true legacy rivalry in the sport. While it is not a must win game for Dallas, losing two in a row at home will put the Eagles in the early cat bird seat in that division.

And how about this one for our Sunday finisher: The undefeated Chiefs go to Houston to take on the newly minted Houston machine and rookie QB sensation Deshaun Watson! Wow. Sweet as it gets.

Once again more changes in the Quoll Top Ten poll because of the crazy results. I have no doubt plenty of teams in the top ten this week will eventually find their out and others will move in.

  1. Chiefs. 4-0. They finally officially ascend to number one, even though they have been the best team since week one. Huge battle on the road this week against Houston.

  2. Green Bay. 3-1. They just exploded on the Bears. Next up, a battle of the offenses as they travel to Big D to take on their hated and ancient rival Cowboys.

  3. Steelers. 3-1. The defense continues to carry them though Bell and offense showed some signs of waking up in Baltimore. Next up a home game against the up and down Jaguars.

  4. Atlanta. 3-1. Never thought Buffalo could win up there. Bye week for injury riddled offense. They need it.

  5. Eagles. 3-1. Yep here they come. This team is good on both sides of the ball and Wentz is the real deal. Home against the Cardinals.

  6. New England. 2-2. That's not a typo. Yes, they are at 500 four weeks in. The defense is a sieve and they play on the road against Tampa, who can score when Winston is one.

  7. Houston. 2-2. What happens when you have one of the best defenses in football and suddenly you start averaging 40 points a game? A big, fat headache fort he rest of the league. The ultimate test for young Watson and the offense against KC this week.

  8. Rams. 3-1. Yep. When was the last time the Rams were in anyone's top ten? How many years? Rookie coach has Goff, Wadkins and Gurly flying high. But can they stay aloft and also ahead of division rival Seattle this week in huge game?

  9. Seattle. 2-2. Seattle is starting to score some points. That's the good news. The bad is Wilson is still throwing pics. They can make a big division move if they win in LA this week.

  10. Denver. 3-1. Great defense but man Simien is Jekyll and Hyde on offense. It's hard to get on a role like that. A bye week for them.

Teams just outside waiting to pounce: Dallas, Oakland (if Carr gets back) Buffalo, Tennessee, Detroit.

That's it for the Quoll Top Ten this week.

Enjoy this weeks games and good luck to your teams.


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Kkennon,

I know how you feel, only with me it's about the Steelers offense and rapidly sliding Ben again. Too bad we can't combine your offense and our defense. Then you would have a superbowl team LOL.

I have to say that no teams produce better games than Dallas and Green Bay. I mean every single game is a freaking classic. I think it would happen if they played every week. Just incredible.


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Week five is over and for three of 2017's putative powerhouses things are starting to go horribly wrong.

My Steelers once again lost to a bad or mediocre team, once again because they just can't score touchdowns or generate any offense. Big Hen had the worst day of his career with five picks inculding two for touchdown returns as they lost at home to Jacksonville. Hen has looked like a mere shadow of Ben for all five games this season and it is obvious the Steeler need to put quarterback at the very top of their needs list next season.

The Cowboys failed again, too, losing their second straight at home as they once again played the role of Aaron Rodgers personal play toy losing in the last seconds 35-31. This was the best game played this year and it will be hard to top. It has become obvious that Dalla's porous defense will stymie any super bowl hopes. Like the Steelers, the Cowboys know exactly what needs to be at the top of the agenda next season. Defense. Defense, then some more defense.

The Raiders lost their third straight, this time without starting QB Carr. Losing without Carr is understandable, losing at home to Baltimore and giving up 30 points to one of the worst offenses in the league is not. What are the Raiders chances? What do they need to do? See Dallas, above.

New England got a nice defensive win on the road, beating Tampa 19-14. They should send some their weeks paycheck to the Tampa kicker who missed four make able field goals.

Carolina backed up their impressive win on the road against the Patriots with another road win over tough Detroit. Starting to look like this team is back in it for real.

Seattle took what was really a must win division game from the Rams in LA, 16-10.

Kansas City still proved to be the NFL **** of the walk staying undefeated, beating Houston on the road. The final score did not reflect the one sided nature of the game.

Houston suffered catastrophic injuries losing Watt and Mercillious for the season on defense. You can't over come that kind of loss of talent on one unit.

Games of note coming in week six:

This week we get off to a terrific early start Thursday night as two 4-1 division leaders, the Eagles and the Panthers pair off in Carolina. That's a must see.

My Steelers travel to KC to take on the only undefeated team in the league. They have the talent to beat them, as they did twice last season, including that road playoff game but with Ben playing like a washed up clown, they can lose by a mile too. KC surely wants to avenge that playoff eviction. What will happen? I have no idea but its a great match up....unless Hen throws more picks.

Green Bay can put a little distance on their division lead if they can win in Minnesota.

The Chargers go to Oakland in what is must win game for the Raiders division hopes and maybe even playoff chances.

The Quoll Top Ten once again has plenty of movement.

1. Kansas City. 5-0. An impressive pounding of Houston on the road but they suffered some potential damaging injuries. Next game against their last years two time conqueror Steelers, who knocked the Chefs out of the playoffs last year in KC. Is it payback time for KC or the beginning of a bad trend in losing to the Steelers?

2. Green Bay. 4-1. They win in Dallas in the game of the year. Next up a road trip to their always tough rivals the Vikings.

3. Atlanta. 3-1. Coming off a much needed bye, they play at home against anemic Miami.

4. Eagles. 4-1. After crushing Arizona at home the pickings get a whole lot tougher in Carolina.

5. Panthers. 4-1. After two very impressive road wins, in New England and Detroit, they go home, only to face their third tough team in a row, the surging Carson Wentz and his Eagles.

6. Patriots. 3-2. They finally showed some defense in Tampa but only scored 19 in the win. Can they put both sides of the ball together? They get the chance against the somewhat surprising Jets who have won three in a row.

7. Broncos. 3-1. Coming off the bye they get the easiest pickings this side of Cleveland, taking on the Giants at home

8. Seattle. 3-2. The good news is they beat the young Rams on the road to salvage their division hopes. The bad news is their offense once against returned to normal, putting up 16 points against a really bad defense. It's going to like that all year for this team.

9. Jaguars. 3-2. Do I think the team with maybe the best secondary in football will remain in the top ten? With Blake Bortles at QB? No way. But for now, they have earned it.

10. Vikings. 3-2. Why not? It all just gets so crappy at this point of the list. They slipped by Chicago on the road when Bradford bailed out fast. Maybe this week he will be able to stay in. They ain't playing the Bears this week as Green Bay comes to town for a big division game.

And that's the Quoll Top Ten for now. Enjoy the games and good luck to your teams.


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Agree lol, but now that Zek is gone for six gms, don't know if I can count on offense either. Might have to go into Tank mode. Lol


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Might as well give Jaylen Smith's brother Rod Smith a crack at running the ball. It can't hurt..lol.


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Another week, six, has come and gone and only affirms the impression I have had for a few weeks now, there is no super team this year, no prohibitive favorite to win it all. Chaos and mediocrity reign supreme. This is the year of the weak NFL.

My Steelers went into KC and whipped up on the last undefeated team in the league, the Chiefs. This was no surprise to me. That Steelers owned this team last year and still do. Three meetings in the last two years, all Steeler wins, two in KC. The Steelers are the one team KC does not want to meet in the playoffs. The win was led by Brown and Bell on offense and a really good defense that reduced the formally hot Alex Smith into the timid, weaker armed QB he really is.

Philadelphia and Wentz showed in a huge power play, winning in Carolina to take the number one seed in the NFC. This team is the real deal, losing only in KC.

Atlanta lost to pathetic Miami at home. Suddenly the super bowl runner up is looking bad. This was after a bye, too.

Deshaun Watson continued his terrific play in putting up 33 points against Cleveland.

New Orleans is getting hot, winning three in a row while drubbing the Lions.

The Rams bounced back nicely from the Seattle lose by taking out Jacksonville on the road.

The two biggest upsets?

The Raiders losing at home to the Chargers. The Raiders are fading faster than a drunk fifty year old fat man trying to pick up a super model.

The shocker of the week? The Giants getting their first win against Denver, in Denver. Denver has a big problem at QB and it tells you how bad Paxton Lynch must be that he can’t get in.

The single biggest event of the week was Aaron Rodgers breaking his collar bone in the lost to the Vikings. He was tearing the league up and had the Packers right there for full home field in the NFC. His season is over and with the snap of one bone, so is the Packers year.

The good games this week:

There are three games where a team come pretty damn close to locking up a division title this week

The KC Chiefs get to give the Raiders their first of the bi yearly beatings this Thursday night. This win will just about wrap up the AFC West for the Chiefs. If the Raiders want any hope at all of winning this division, they have to take this home game.

The Steelers can also just about wrap up the division if they can beat two game in a row winner, resurgent Bengals.

In a huge NFC West game the Redskins go to Philly to try slow down the Carson Wentz express.

If the Steelers, Chiefs and Philly win, those division titles are really right there for them to have.

Atlanta takes on New England in a super bowl rematch in Foxboro. Neither team looks like the team that was in the super bowl, yet.

Here’s a bit of stunning minutia. This year’s Patriots’ are the only team in NFL history, yes, the entire history of the league, to give up six 300 yard passing games in a row.

Once again, huge changes in the top ten. I suspect there will be plenty more all year long is this years weak, crazy league. I have to take Green Bay out from number two, simply because without Rodgers they are not a top ten team. That’s a real shame because Rodgers and Packers would have been number one this week and the Packers were one of the better teams in the league this year.

The Quoll Top Ten for this week;

  1. Eagles. 5-1. Coming off their most impressive win of the year on the road against 4-1 Carolina. They can put a death grip on the NFC west with a win at home against Washington.

  2. Chiefs. 5-1. They had to lose sometime. And every time they play the Steelers they lose. Like the Eagles, they can take total control of the division this week if they win in Oakland.

  3. Patriots. 4-2. The only team in NFL history to give up six 300 yard passing games in a row is number three. And they have as much chance to win the super bowl as anyone. How weak is the league this year? Next up, their super bowl victim Atlanta.

  4. Steelers. 4-2. Terrific win in KC, except for The Big Hen, who was again along for the ride. A win against the Bengals will just about seal the division deal.

  5. Panthers. 4-2. Very disappointing loss at home to Philly. Another very, very disappointing interception prone game from Cam.

  6. Seattle. 3-2. Coming off the bye. Next up the Giants, who got their one win this year against the Broncos last week.

  7. Vikings. 4-2. They put themselves right into the playoff and division cat bird seat by knocking Rodgers out for the year. Teddy is cleared to practice!!

  8. Rams. 4-2. Bounced back from the Seattle loss with a real nice win in Jacksonville. This team has something. Next up a home game against Arizona and Adrian Peterson who shined in first game with Cards last week.

  9. Atlanta. 3-2. Brutal home loss to Miami. Next up a super bowl rematch with New England.

  10. New Orleans. 3-2. Three in a row! Should make it four in row with Green Bay next.

And that is the Quoll Top Ten for this week.


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