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Pete,

Just sickening. That kid was electric. We play them this year and I was really looking forward to that and seeing him test our defense. It takes that game from a serious threat to one we should win, as much as any game is with field goal Hen as our QB, but I would gladly have that threat back if I could. He was amazing.

You know the Steelers seem to be cursing franchise QBs this year. We are playing Indy, Green Bay and Houston this year. Luck, Rodgers and Watson out for the year.

Good thing for you we don't play Dallas, LOL.

Will the curse strike Brady since we meet them too or is The Master immune to it as he seems all things?

Kennon,

This game against KC is a good one to still have Zeke.


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LMAO SPQR. No worries, my team is the "king" of screw ups. We have a 14-3 lead with 2 sec left on the clock before halftime and what does Rob Marnelli do, leave 3 defensive lineman and back the remainder of defense all the way back to the goal line and what does Alex Smith do, throw underneath to Tyreke Hill and score a TD all the way from the 50 yd line. But that's America's Team for ya.


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LMAO SPQR. No worries, my team is the "king" of screw ups. We have a 14-3 lead with 2 sec left on the clock before halftime and what does Rob Marnelli do, leave 3 defensive lineman and back the remainder of defense all the way back to the goal line and what does Alex Smith do, throw underneath to Tyreke Hill and score a TD all the way from the 50 yd line. But that's America's Team for ya.

Even though they had that screw up, I'm loving defense, especially line. Nice win!!!

Another big test against Atlanta next week, probably without Zeke.


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Even though they had that screw up, I'm loving defense, especially line. Nice win!!!

Another big test against Atlanta next week, probably without Zeke.

The defense is definitely getting better, especially the secondary. That front 4 are beasting.


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What an ending to the Seahawks/Redskins game.....Seahawks came up short.


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That was a very impressive win by the Cowboys. They are really looking like last year's team the last three games only with a better defense.

Catching Philly will be hard but you play them twice so if you get the sweep then it's a real horse race again. Those should be some games. Prescott really looks good. McFadden has to come through while Zeke is out. He has the talent behind that great line so I expect them do well. He's not Zeke but he's very good.


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Another week in the books and the big story is the powerful resurgence of the Dallas Cowboys who suddenly look like one of the best teams in the league and are playing as well as any team in the league. Carolina stuck another knife in the fading hopes of super bowl runner up Atlanta winning 20-17. Atlanta, along with the Raiders has to rank as the biggest disappoint of this season. The Rams and Philly continue to roll winning huge over the hapless Giants and Denver. The Eagles scored 51 points against the Broncos, who have one the best defenses in the league. Statement made, anyone? New Orleans continues their roll winning big over Tampa. Russell Wilson showed his normal erratic form, coming down from his great game against Houston in leading his team to a 14-17 loss to Washington. When Wilson plays well, as he did last week, you hear media guys like Tony Dungy rave and rant how we never give Wilson enough credit. Then when he plays lousy, they say nothing, until Wilsons next great game, which is usually about one in four. Wilson is the most protected QB in the game, both by his defense and the media. Dallas totally deconstructed KC with a dominating performance winning 28-17. This team looks great on both sides of the ball the last three weeks and is peaking at the just the right time. Can they catch Philly to win the division? They will have to sweep them and that will be rough but man, I can’t wait for both of those games. These two teams will be duking it out for that division for years. Both have terrific QBs and talent behind them. Dallas Philly is going to ascend right to the top of the list as the best rivalry in....


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No Zeke, now no Smith. We're in trouble!! Lol


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About ready to go into Tank mode with Cowboys. Lol


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About ready to go into Tank mode with Cowboys. Lol

Scott Linehan's offensive play calling was a joke. Stevie Wonder could see that Chaz couldn't hold his own and needed some help. Pitiful. Not saying we'd won but we'd at least had a shot at it.


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Yeah guys, that was a tough one. No Zeke, no Shawn Lee, no Tyrone Smith. Smith really killed them. I felt bad for Prescott with what was happening. It's going to take a miracle for them to pull the playoffs this year with the injuries, Zeke out five more games and their schedule. My Steelers squeaked by the pathetic Colts with a second half comeback. Once again all problems caused by Big Hen and his inablity to take advantage of the worst defense with some of the best weapons in the NFL at his disposal. This week he said the fans and media should stop concentrating on the offensive problems and just appreciate the victories. Sure Hen. Now we can't even talk about your problems. Uh huh. The Saints just exploded on Buffalo on the road and really stamped themselves as a top class NFC team. Atlanta ended Dallas' division hopes with a win at home. Dallas is really in a must win mode now. The Vikings won again leading the division and Detroit did too, trying to keep in sight. New England had a real statement game, destroying Denver 41-16 in Denver. This team seems to be peaking now. There are some terrific games this week that will really affect the AFC and NFC playoff seeding. It all starts off Thursday night as the AFC South leading Titans come to Pittsburgh to play the AFC North leading Steelers. This is a huge game for both teams as the playoff jockeying has really kicked in now. In another big one, the desperate Raiders will have to bring their A game to Mexico to fight the Patriots. For New England it's about trying to take home field from the leading Steelers, for the Raiders its about a can't lose situation to keep their slim playoff hopes alive. It's an....


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How bout them Giants!!!!....lmao. Never saw that coming. What an ugly game by the way. Giants win in OT.

Now Redskins and Saints was exciting. The Saints came marching in and beat the Skins in OT. Really enjoyed that game.


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Yep, I'm now in Tank mode on Cowboys. Will begin looking at mock draft now. Lol


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Yep, I'm now in Tank mode on Cowboys. Will begin looking at mock draft now. Lol

Yeah. Dak looked awful and Dez's time as a Cowboy has come to an end IMO. They need to move him while he still has some value.


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Pete,

It's funny. I wanted so much to watch that Viking Ram game but couldn't get it. So I was "stuck" with New Orleans and Washington. Man was I lucky not to get what I wanted. I guess once in a while not getting what you want really works out well. I watched that classic come back you were writing about and missed a boring, one sided game.

Talk about getting lucky.


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Can't wait for Turkey Day!!!!!!!!.....Gobble....Gobble....lol.


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Pete, Me too. Work seemed to last forever today. Even more forever than usual. Another week gone by and some divisions have achieved full clarity. With Philly's win over Dallas and Washington's amazing come from ahead loss to New Orleans the Eagles have sewn up the NFC East. The Eagles along with Pittsburgh and New England should skate to division titles the rest of the way barring season ending injuries to Brady, Wentz or Roethilsberger. New Orleans kept right on Philly's tail with that amazing win at home against the Redskins coming from way back to win 34-31 as vintage Drew Brees took over in the fourth quarter to lead the comeback. If they win the division and get the first or second seed in the playoffs this game will be the key to it all. My Steelers finally showed the offense that has been expected all year, crushing AFC South leading Tennessee 40-17. It was also the first game all year Big Ben looked and played like a franchise QB. Coincidence? Hell no. Detroit kept after the Vikings winning 27-24 over the bears. They are one game back. The Vikings had their most impressive win of the year just dismantling the red hot Rams at home on both sides of the ball. It was as easy as the 24-7 scored indicated. Seattle could not make up ground on the Rams loss by losing themselves to Atlanta at home, 34-31. The loss of Sherman and Chancellor were very apparent in this game and will be felt for the rest of the year. Atlanta is starting to resemble the super bowl team of last year with their third impressive win in a row. The Chiefs, who for the first third of the year looked like the best team in the league continued their slide losing to the lowly Giants 12-9.....


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Can't wait for Turkey Day!!!!!!!!.....Gobble....Gobble....lol.

Lol, we got cooked!!!!

It's Tanking Time!!!!!!!

Go every team playing Cowboys for rest of season. Lol


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Kkennon1, I'd be doing the same if the Cowboys were my team. I would also be hoping Jason Garrett gets fired. He let Prescott get sacked 8 times against Atlanta then realized, after the game, that he should have made some protection changes? Nor has he done a thing to except run the same Zeke offense....without Zeke? Three losses by twenty plus points. Wow. There needs to be some changes. And I'd want Jerry Jones fired too. Oh wait, Jones is the owner. So the last full week of November football is over. The means we are coming down the home stretch. An era comes to an end when two time super bowl champ Eli Manning will be benched to see what Geno Smith has. I can save them the trouble, Smith stinks. Play the rookie Davis Webb if you are trying to see if you want to draft a QB next year because if Webb isn't it, they they don't have it. Last week my Steelers beat Green Bay and their back up QB at home 31-28. The offense once again showed signs of life but the defense has continued a trend of late of giving up big yardage plays. The loss of CB Joe Haden has certainly contributed to this and so has a slew of bad tackling. Wonder what Brady thinks watching this? I have an idea. Speaking of Brady, the two best teams in football continued to roll with ease as the Patriots and Eagles crushed the Dolphins and Bears. The Vikings won a huge one in Detroit to just about sew up the division. The Chargers are creeping ever so slowly back towards wild card contention with their third win a row over Dallas. Two other AFC outside playoff chances were kept alive as the Raiders and Baltimore won. Atlanta continues to look like....


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I was not impressed with my Cowboys versus the Redskins....but at least it stopped the bleeding...lol. I'll take it...lol. Look forward to watching some good football Sunday.


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I was not impressed with my Cowboys versus the Redskins....but at least it stopped the bleeding...lol. I'll take it...lol. Look forward to watching some good football Sunday.

Is it me , or does this team need an upgrade at WR's ???


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Is it me , or does this team need an upgrade at WR's ???

Yes they do and since Jerry Jones is paying Dez Bryant a lot of money, he won't give Brice Butler the time of day he should be getting. Butler is a burner and can stretch the field like they need. Or at least give him the bulk of Terrence Williams' minutes....but I digress.


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Now on another note, really really enjoyed the Steelers/Bengals game last night. Justice was served to Burfict and he deserved it. Way to go JuJu!!!!!


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lol, Pete, rookie Ju Ju is a tough guy very much in the mold of Hines Ward but with better physical skills. He's going to be a very good receiver. If was funny watching a receiver knocking the monster man Burfict out. We are heading down the stretch now and December games elimate playoff hopes and begin to decide seeding. Last weeks games went a long to to those ends. My Steelers came back from 17-0 to beat the Bengals in Cincinnati 23-20. The finished off the Bengals slim playoff hopes. But the game features some crazy hits and suspensions. Ryan Shazier had to be carted off the field after he stupidly decided to spear a Bengal. That kind of "tackle" designed to hurt someone was outlawed by the NCAA and NFL immediately after Nick Bonouconi's son became paralyzed thirty years ago when he speared someone in college. Hopefully the very good and very talented Shazier will fully recover to live a normal life and even play again, but the truth is, he got exactly what he asked for when he did what he did. As Pete said, rookie receiver Ju Ju Smith who is not only a territic pass catcher but a ferocious blocker just leveled infamous NFL thug Vontez Burfict. I am sure there were lots of NFL players and fans who were cheering that moment. There were two suspensions coming of this battle, Smith for a game and Bengal safety George Lloka for helmet to helmet on Antonio Brown on a touchdown catch. I don't know how Brown held onto that ball. But then I don't know how he does any of the miracles he performs as the best receiver in the game. The Vikings followed up a road win over rival Detroit with a road win in Atlanta, 14-9. That is a....


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Only three weeks left in the year. Man it always seems to just fly by. There were some big results last week and a lot of the big boys lost but by far the biggest news was the season ending injury to super star in the making Carson Wentz. Wentz was on the fast track to league MVP in only his second year and had the Eagles as the number one NFC seed and the favorite to get to the super bowl. I had a hard time seeing any team beating them in Philly in the play offs. Now that is all dust. The Eagles must finish the drive with erstwhile staring QB Nick Foles who was OK when he was a starter and good back up. But can he seal the deal for Philly and get them to the big dance and win it? I don't think so. So much of what Philly did was a product of Wentz's greatness. First Watson, now Wentz. What a shame for them and all football fans. The second biggest story was our first two division winners, Philly and Pittsburgh. Welcome to the playoffs My Steelers won the game of the week beating Baltimore 39-38. The ran out to a 14-0 start and looked like an easy winner. Then Baltimore came back to go ahead 31-20 and it looked like it was over. But the resurgent Big Ben and of course the incomparable Antonio Brown led the dramatic comeback that resulting in the win. That was a great game between the two old, bitter rivals. Atlanta kept their flagging division title alive with a hard fought 20-17 win over division leader New Orleans. The Vikings finally lost to Carolina. This was the Vikings third road game in a row after winning the first two. It is almost impossible to win three....


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Well, The NFL game of the year between the Patriots and Steelers certainly lived up to the billing. It came right down to the last play of the game and Big Ben, who has all the physical talent in the world but always a two cent brain did the only thing that could have cost the Steelers the game, threw an interception, which prevented a sure game tying field goal. It was a terrific battle with the Patriots going up early then the Steelers coming back to take the lead. Mr. Brady, as usual responded with the go ahead TD before the Steelers roared back to make for that tremendous, very dramatic finish. With the win the Patriots in all likely hood locked up home field for the entire playoffs. For the Steelers it was an excruciating loss. Detroit, Atlanta and Dallas kept their playoff hopes alive with wins. The Rams slaughtered Seattle in Seattle to take command of the division. This signals a huge sea change in the NFC West. For the last five years Seattle has been the overlord of that division but with the advent of the Rams you can that era seems to be over. The Rams don't look like a short term winner, but a team that will lay claim to division titles and playoff appearances for a long time to come. Teams officially in the playoffs: Pats, Steelers, Vikings, Jaguars and Eagles. Welcome aboard guys. In another big game the Chiefs beat back the Charger challenge at home, 30-13 and puts them in the cat birds seat for the AFC West title. The return of Aaron Rodgers was short lived as the Panthers eliminated the Packers from playoff contention with a win at home. The Packers then promptly decided to sit Rodgers for the rest of the year. The benching of....


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Can't wait to see Zeke!!!!!!....lol. Really need Falcons to lose last 2 games though but we need to win our last 2 as well....lol.


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Pete,

I'm looking forward to Zekes return too.

You know it could happen. I like Dallas chances against Seattle. You guys seem to push them around.

Atlanta has to play in New Orleans this week. I'll take the Saint's there.

Then next week the Falcons have to take on Carolina who will need a win too.

You guys will be in Philly, a tough nut to crack but if the Vikings lose this week Philly will be resting everyone.

And even if they still have to play for the number one seed the last week Philly without Wentz is no Philly with him.


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Pete,

Detroit, Carolina and Atlanta losing. If that holds up and Dallas wins over Seattle its looking a whole lot better.


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SPQR,

In perfect Cowboy style, we laid an egg. I would say I'm surprised but I'm not...lol. I wish JJ would get with the times and hire an innovative coach, offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator but by the time JJ does that, Dak and Zeke best years will be behind him.


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Pete,

Yeah that was a lousy loss. You did push them around and your defense totally controlled Seattle's offense.

Just too many field goals and turnovers.

I agree with you about the changes they need but as you say with JJ there it's unlikely. He has his Yes Men in place and that's how he likes it.


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Pete,

Yeah that was a lousy loss. You did push them around and your defense totally controlled Seattle's offense.

Just too many field goals and turnovers.

I agree with you about the changes they need but as you say with JJ there it's unlikely. He has his Yes Men in place and that's how he likes it.

Yeah but I'm still looking forward to some good playoff football so I'll have my popcorn ready...lol.


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Pete, No doubt. I watch and love it whether my Steelers are in it or not. And speaking of the Steelers they sewed up at least the second seed in the AFC with a 34-7 win in Houston that was as lopsided as the score. As it should be considering they were facing a third and fourth string QBs. The Patriots moved one Jet win next week from the top seed by beating the Bills in a game that was much more competitive than the final score. Some things never seem to change and two of them are the Pats getting home field and winning the superbowl even though this is the most flawed team they have had in a long time. The Eagles secured home field for the playoffs be sqeaking by the Raiders at in Philly. What good it will do them or how long they will last is in dooubt as Nick Foles is no Wentz in any way, shape or form. They look like a dead team playing. Baltimore is on the verge of wild card with their win over the Colts. The Chiefs took their third straight AFC West title by beating the Dolphins. New Orleans eliminated Atlanta from the division race. Carolina kept their division hopes alive with a comeback win over Tampa. Dallas was eliminated by Seattle in what was essentially a wild card game. The Seahawks hopes go on. The Chargers kept their slim chance alive with a close win over the Jets. Detroit was eliminated by their loss against the Bengals. The Rams clinched the NFC West beating the Titans who really need to fire retread loser coach Mike Mularky about as bad as the Raiders need to get rid of Jack Del Rio. What a year the Rams have had and what a head coach 31 year old Sean McVey is. They are really....


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Hey SPQR,

Do you know if Nino will be back at anytime during the playoffs? I know you have a closer pulse on the situation.


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Pete. He was doing light jogging on the treadmill this week. Tomlin said if a game was this week he would be listed as questionable. Brown says he will be ready. If anyone can he can. So the short, lovely season ends for another year. Why? Why? Lol. of course now the final playoff spots have been rounded out. What were the biggest shocks this season? I would say number one the total disintegration of the Raiders. I blamed much of that on Coach Del Rio. He was a loser retread and I told some Raider fan friends of mine last year I didn't think he was the man for the job. He showed it this year. No way in hell should a team that talented finish out of the playoffs let alone with 6-10. Even more alarming was the slip of their most talented side of the ball, the offense. This was a team clearly reflecting a disorganized, bad coach. All teams with a coach like that eventually take on that same look. It's not hard to see. The question now is, is Gruden the man for the job? I don't hold him in as high regard as many do and I think there are much better young coaches out there I would hire in his stead. But he almost has to be better than Jack. I guess we will have to wait till next season to see just how good he can be in 2018 after all those years in the booth The second surprise was Seattle not making the playoffs. They had ruled that division with an iron fist for five years. I think with the slippage in defense due to injuries it did shed some light on Russell Wilson's deficiencies and the fact that while he does what he does best better than any QB....


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Man that some hard nosed smash mouth football I saw between the Saints/Panthers and Bills/Jags. I must say an ugly game between Bills and Jags...10-3. And Blake Bortles and Tyrod Taylor looked like garbage. Hey but somebody had to win....lol.

The Rams basically did what my Cowboys did last year, had a break out season with their running back having a break out season as well. Getting a 1st rd buy and then losing. I'll give ATL defense a lot of credit by constantly changing their defensive schemes at the last second to confuse Geoff. I guess the figured out the Rams HC was telling Geoff the defensive schemes all year.


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Although I'll probably check in on some games in playoffs, I've basically moved on to draft. Lol


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Pete, Yep, that Saints Panthers game was terrific. The Saints just couldn't get rid of them and when Brees threw that horrific pick you really wondered how it would go. That Bills Jags game was so bad. It was a showcase of what teams are without a QB. Both teams will need to upgrade there if they ever want to compete for a title. The Falcon's made the Rams look young and not ready. That happens a lot to new teams in the playoffs. Alex Smith and Reid pulled their usual choke job losing to big underdog Tennessee. I would suspect this will be the death knell for Smith as they have young QB Mahoomes waiting in the wings to take his job. I mean how long do you keep going with the same old thing? Coming from ahead by 18 points to lose to a crappy team like the Titans says it all. It is the second round of the playoffs where most of the blowouts happen because you have weaker teams who beat other weak teams in the first round then moving up over their heads. I think two games are very likely for this to happen. I think the Pats will just maul the Titans. Mariota will not beat the Pats by scrambling unless he does it for about 280 yards. Bellichich will have his ready to stop this and their backs and force him to throw. At that point expect it to get ugly. The other game that has a strong potential to get bad is the Steelers Jacksonville game. Yes the Jags beat them good in Pittsburgh this year, 30-9 on the heels of Ben's five interceptions. But unless he has another atrocious game the way to victory is pretty clear. Stack the front to hold Fournette and Borttles down in....


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Can't wait to see Steelers/Jags. Think that's going to be a war.


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Pete,

It could well be a war. The Steelers and Ben want to prove the first game was a fluke. The Jags want to show it wasn't. One thing about Jacksonville, they are one of the very few teams with the defensive talent and stars to match up with the Steelers offensive talent and stars.

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Baptist!

Yes. It sure is Jax today.


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The second round of the playoffs is over leaving only four deserving teams standing. My Steelers lost for the second time at home to Jacksonville definitively proving the Jaguars have their number with a 45-42 win. I don't think anyone expected the game to be that high scoring and while it was always in the realm of possibility for Jacksonville to win who would have thought this defensively stalwart but offensively challenged group would give up 42 and still win? The one thing I said the Steelers couldn't do happened as Big Hen appeared in the first half with a pick and fumble that lead to a 21-0 deficit that had the Steelers in a hole the whole game. While the offense did eventually come alive the defense faded like a maple leaf in a chill October air as Fournette gashed them over and over and in the second half they let one of the worst quarterbacks in the league, Blake Bortles hit pass, after pass to keep the Jaguars always one touchdown ahead. Ben becomes the first quarterback in nfl history to pass for over 400 yards and five td's and still lose. The Steelers abject futility on defense was best exemplified by two stats, the Jaguars were five for five in the red zone and the Steelers had only one negative yardage play on defense and no sacks. The other turning points in this game was the Steelers horrendous play calling on two fourth and one plays with a toss six yards back on one and a pass play on the other. In his career Ben is 18-19 getting first downs on quarterback sneaks. So what was up with that? Finally why go with that onside kick with two time outs and the two minute warning left? Onside kicks only work 12 percent of the....


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It could well be a war. The Steelers and Ben want to prove the first game was a fluke. The Jags want to show it wasn't. One thing about Jacksonville, they are one of the very few teams with the defensive talent and stars to match up with the Steelers offensive talent and stars.

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SPQR,

I didn't think the Jags could take that defense into Pittsburgh and win. But also didn't see Blake making a few plays and also didn't see the score being 45-42.

As for the Saints/Viking, what a game!!!!....Feel sorry for Brees because he played his butt off.

The Falcons/Eagles didn't really get my juices flowing but hey, football is football.


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Pete,

Yes. Tough way for Brees to lose. I doubt a competitor like him will ever get over it. That game was over and the Saints were moving on, then they weren't. And what a comeback he engineered.

I was happy for the hundred year old woman Viking fan who was there for her first game. I'm glad she didn't have a heart attack watching that crazy game and miracle finish. It was enough to give a twenty year old one. She attended the right game, didn't she?


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Pete,

Yes. Tough way for Brees to lose. I doubt a competitor like him will ever get over it. That game was over and the Saints were moving on, then they weren't. And what a comeback he engineered.

I was happy for the hundred year old woman Viking fan who was there for her first game. I'm glad she didn't have a heart attack watching that crazy game and miracle finish. It was enough to give a twenty year old one. She attended the right game, didn't she?

I think she did...lol.


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What a game between Jags/Pats. Unfortunately the Jags didn't score enough TDs to hold of Brady. Bortles did good but the Jags clearly need a franchise QB and they'll be all set.


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Didn't think the Eagles would detroy the Viking like that. Guess the Viking were a fluke after all.


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Pete,

Yep. That game shocked me. I gave the Eagles a good chance to win it, but never in a million years did I think that offense, with Foles especially, would just do anything they wanted to the Vikings number one rated defense.

Not only did their defense come apart but Keenum finally came to earth too at the worst possible time. I would let him walk if I were the Vikings and cast my lot with Teddy. If he doesn't work out then back to the draft.

As an aside, I have to say your Cowboys are going to have to be on top of their game from the FO on down to the field the next ten years being stuck with Philly. I think they are the successors to New England with Pederson and Wentz. I can't help but see multiple super bowls in their future and I'm talking about wins not just appearances. Pederson is impressing the hell out of me with his ability to scheme. I mean he lost the MVP Wentz, their best line backer, their best offensive lineman and an all pro kicker and yet here they are, destroying the Vikings and in the big show. With Wentz back, man, I don't know. They look like they are ready for a very, very long run.

I would not want the Steelers to be in a division with them.


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