Lebron or Embiid for the Lakers? (P. 2)

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Apollon
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gemfow wrote:
Great response my man, lmao at Devil's cut.

You hit the nail on the head about Kuzma being the better defender but I just don't like when people always try to point out Randle's arms as the problem when it really isn't. Randle's problem is that he is still learning the game. He may have been a superb athlete in highschool and bigger than everyone else and the same goes for college but now he's in a league where he needs the skills to thrive. Randle has no jumpshot or confidence in taking one but in contrast Kuzma does. Randle doesn't rotate, doesn't move his feet well on defense and I don't believe anyone would balk at him if he was at least a good position defender which he isn't but has all the tools to learn and do well on that side because he's quick, fast and strong.

I also hope he learns that setting a screen and just standing there is low bball IQ, he needs to roll or flare out. I expect Randle to be better this season but also we can't gnome that he's about the same age as Kuzma, Randle was 19 when coming into the league and missed one year of basketball with a broken leg.

I think the bottom line is - if Lakers want a shot at 2 max guys next season - they can't keep Randle. He's RFA and at 22 and #7 pick isn't going to consider Nick Young type "hometown discounts". He will sign an offer sheet, if Lakers just extend qualifying offer and wait it out. Then he walks for nothing. I believe Eric Pincus mentioned he's eligible for something like $95M contract with current cap. Kuzma is more than adequate replacement, I believe he'll be a better player overall, and Lakers got Nance as a backup, who will also come much cheaper and is still under contract next year. It makes all the sense in the world to move Randle, just gotta find some takers. If Lakers try to do it at Feb. deadline it won't make much sense for teams to give up assets for him for 2 months rental, when they could just sign him to offer sheet Lakers won't much 2 months later. I speculate the only reason he hasn't been moved already is because Lakers havent gotten the right offer, teams probably lowballing Lakers with a 2nd rounder for him.

Shaq
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I tend to disagree with all this underating of Randle here.

Kuzman is nowhere near Randle in finishing close to the basket, and he is nowhere near Randle in the pace and coast-to-coast skills of Randle for a power forward.

Randle has a good shoot technique and his numbers will increase should he continue working this year. But Kuzman will never be able to run the floor the way Randle is.

gemfow
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SPQR,

Like others have pointed out, Embiid will be a RFA just like Randle will be who were of course in the same draft. So, the Lakers could give him a max offer and maybe he'd sign it but I think it's safe to assume that if Embiid is healthy all year that he will command a max deal due to the extreme potential. I don't see the Lakers even trying to sign Embiid to an offer sheet because Magic has his eyes on a high mileage Lebron James. I'm fairly certain Magic's vision is a lineup of

Ball

Paul George

Brandon Ingram

Lebron James

Brook Lopez (on the cheap)

That lineup would be pretty competitive and would make most Lakers' fans happy, you and I wouldn't be too pleased because we like to see youth develop and not watch the bigger names dominate the ball/shots.

kkennon1
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Shaq wrote:
I tend to disagree with all this underating of Randle here.

Kuzman is nowhere near Randle in finishing close to the basket, and he is nowhere near Randle in the pace and coast-to-coast skills of Randle for a power forward.

Randle has a good shoot technique and his numbers will increase should he continue working this year. But Kuzman will never be able to run the floor the way Randle is.

Not yet!!! Lol

JJCali
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Shaq wrote:
I tend to disagree with all this underating of Randle here.

Kuzman is nowhere near Randle in finishing close to the basket, and he is nowhere near Randle in the pace and coast-to-coast skills of Randle for a power forward.

Randle has a good shoot technique and his numbers will increase should he continue working this year. But Kuzman will never be able to run the floor the way Randle is.

Absolutely.


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