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Hey guys,

With NFL camps opening up next week I've started the thread of this season.


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1st the Zeke allegations and now 4 dead on Dallas Tour Bus. Not a great start. Prayers go out to those families who lost loved ones.


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Pete,

It gets worse. The Cowboys Randy Gregory, their number two pick last year, faces a ten game suspension for the fourth drug violation of his very young career. That news came out today.

Gregory, a pass rushing demon was considered a sure first round pick, till he tested positive for weed at the combine. You know, where he knew he would be tested.

It's a wonder the Steelers didn't draft him. He would have fit right in.

The Steelers and Cowboys are in competition to see which is Team Blaze.

Gentlemen, start your bongs!


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SPQR,

I saw that yesterday and just smh. There's nothing wrong with taking risk but it appears it's not working out for my Cowboys. I understand he's young, only 23, but it's just time to cut bait and quit taking these risks. He along with McClain and Lawrence just needs to be cut. But JJ won't do it so I'm just blowing smoke out my ears.


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Pete,

I just found out something today that I had never heard of before. The Cowboys will have to pay at least 250 grand in fines because they have three players suspended this year in Gregory, McClain and Lawrence. And they paid that find last year. I never realized there was such a rule.

So if Bell gets the four game suspension and one more guy gets suspended the Steelers will be subject to this fine as well.

I'm really tired of guys so weak they have to have their weed so much that they literally destroy their teams chances just to get high.

Since pot is so very prevalent in the NFL that the league designs their tests so players should pass, but so many still don't, I would strongly advise the players union to eliminate pot testing in their next contact negotiations just like the NBA players union wisely did.


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You know what, even the league legalized pot, there will be another drug that does them in. You have to be careful because once you give an inch, they'll take a mile. I'm quite sure there doing more than pot.


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I will say this, these KNUCKLE HEADS could learn a few things from Tyrann Mathieu. Got in trouble in college with weed and ultimately learned from his transgressions. Kept his head on straight, surrounded himself with good people and has been rewarded with $62.5 Million Dollar deal. Highest paid Safety in the league. Congrats young brotha...Congrats.


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One more thing, watch out for them Raiders. Just sayin.


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Pete,

Yep. The Honey Badger really turned things around. Funny thing is I wanted the Steelers to take a chance on him. Just got a huge contract and he deserves it.

I agree with you you on the Raiders. I like them to win the West. From there, who knows how far they can go.

How are my Steelers doing two weeks into camp? Monster reicever Bryant of course out for the year. Weed. Leveon Bell, perhaps the best all around running back in the league faces a likely four game game suspension for missing drug tests.

And this week we lose last year's second round pick, cornerback Senquez Golson for the year with a foot injury. He led the nation in picks his last year in college and was to be highly incorporated into our anemic secondary this year. Oh, he missed all of last year with a shoulder injury.

I'm sure Ben will break his throwing arm shortly.

And how was your team's week?


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Not sure how my team's week was SPQR. Just tired of JJ running his mouth and the season hasn't even started yet..lol. Looking forward to seeing my Cowboys against the Rams this Saturday in a preseason game.


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The Future


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Well it was only 1 preseason game....that being said, he did look awesome...lol.


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Well it was only 1 preseason game....that being said, he did look awesome...lol.

Now it's 2 preseason games, kid looks like nothing bothers him out there. Great 4th round steal.

Pete, can't wait to see Dak and Zeke on field together. Hopefully next week. Also Dez and Romo looking good.


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Can't wait to see them this coming Thursday against Seattle kk. Should be must see tv....lol.


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I see Dallas fans and the national media are going nuts about Dak Prescott. He is a very interesting story.

Pete, Kkennon, my take on the Prescott phenomenon: Well, it two fold. First, it is much better and more exciting to see him play like he is than being mediocre or sucking. It gives one thoughts about what might be. I mean he's doing it right now. So instead of having this big nothing, you suddenly have this interesting something. If I were a Dallas fan, I would be intrigued.

And if I were a Dallas fan, I would also temper my enthusiasm. I have seen dozens of rookie or young quarterbacks over the years do great in pre season, or even their first years then bomb out either from coming back to their real level or the NFL catching up to what they like to do and forcing them to do things they don't. And things they couldn't.

The Steelers Neal O'Donnell looked like the second coming of Dan Marino in pre season. The pre season was the last time he looked like that. By his second year I had christened him with the nickname, The Duckman. As I am sure you know, that was not a compliment. RG3 looked like a hall of fame lock his whole first season. Now he looks like, well, you know. But like I said, it's much better seeing him do well now than sucking. Because it gives hope.

Sports Illustrated came out with their NFL issue this week. Here is their playoff predictions. Wild cards: Bengals, Chargers, Arizona, Vikings.

Division winners: New England, Steelers, Colts, Chiefs, Seattle, Packers and Panthers, Dallas.

In the playoffs they have bengals over the colts, Cardinals over Cowboys (Sorry Pete, Kkennon), KC over Chargers and Packers over Vikings.

Then Steelers over KC, Packers over Panthers, Patroits over Colts and Cardinals over Seattle.

In the Championship games, Steelers over Patriots (WHAT!!! The Steelers beating the Patriots in a playoff game???) and Cardinals over Packers.

In the Superbowl they have the Cardinals beating my Steelers 40 to 37 in a game where I guess the defenses of both teams missed the plane ride.

A few thoughts on those predictions: Chargers making it out of the West instead of Oakland? I don't think so. I really love the Raiders this year. The one concern I have is coach Del Rio. I'm not sold on him.

For the Steelers to make the superbowl three things will have to happen. Super athlete and super touchdown from anywhere on the field machine Martavous Bryant will have to return. Oh, that's right, not going to happen, he's gone to bong land, so let's move to the other two. The Steelers offense will have to start scoring more touchdowns and kicking less field goals. Trust me when I tell you, that is a really big issue with us and has cost us many, many games. And the secondary will have to find some way to play better.

As for Arizona, they probably have the best team in football for both sides of the ball. But man, Carson Palmer looked so totally clueless in the playoffs last year. For them to make the big dance, he's going to have find some really big clues and apply them fast.


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Just smh at Romo. 1st series and he goes down with a back injury. The writing is on the wall but I also don't want to rush Dak. Dammit!!!!!!

Hey SPQR, I know the Steelers don't place priority on receivers but AB needs to be reconsidered for a better contract. Dude is out of this world.


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Pete,

Without question. They just renegociated Marcus Gilbert's contract. They did it to free up a couple million to give Brown this year. They did the same type of thing last year. Then they just take a couple million that is due to Brown next year and move it to this year. That way they can keep Brown semi happy and not break their rule of never renegotiating a contract till its last year. Its that rule they have that is really the reason that stops them from redoing Browns contract. His last year will be next year and they will rip that contract up after this season is done and give him what he has earned the last three years.

Didn't hear about Romo's injury. Prescott may end up playing this year given Romo's history.


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Pete, I'm with you. Wanted Dak to be able to sit and learn at least his rookie season, but doesn't look like Romo is going to make it through a whole season.

Trying not to get to high on Dak, but damn it !!! He does everything asked of him so well. Guess we'll have to wait and see if he looks as good when games count.


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Can't wait to see them this coming Thursday against Seattle kk. Should be must see tv....lol.

Pete, Zeke looked good last night, although I didn't get to see start of game where I'm at, because of some NFL rule...smh

Would have like to see him get more plays, but looks like Dallas run game is back!!! Just want to see Zeke make better decisions off the field.


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Pete, Zeke looked good last night, although I didn't get to see start of game where I'm at, because of some NFL rule...smh

Would have like to see him get more plays, but looks like Dallas run game is back!!! Just want to see Zeke make better decisions off the field.

The 7 plays he ran were awesome. Yes it was a small sample size but man he looked NFL ready. As far the marijuana store, he didn't buy anything and really shouldn't be scrutinized. He more than likely was curious. Again, he didn't buy anything and has no history of it. The NFL or others better get use to this because sooner or later, these type of stores will be all over statewide. Just the world we live in. I've also read the Cowboys are concerned about his frequent partying but the reality is he's a young man with money now and to some degree, you have to allow him to be a young man. Outside of the accusation by the young lady, as long as he's not being detrimental to himself or exhibiting Johnny Manziel symptons, then let him be for now. He has to grow and mature like all young men.


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Like I said when he was drafted, Zeke will be the NFL offensive rookie of the year if he isn't injured or has off the field issues.


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Just smh at Romo. 1st series and he goes down with a back injury. The writing is on the wall but I also don't want to rush Dak. Dammit!!!!!!

Hey SPQR, I know the Steelers don't place priority on receivers but AB needs to be reconsidered for a better contract. Dude is out of this world.

Well Pete, it looks like Dak your QB...smh


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Well Pete, it looks like Dak your QB...smh

His new name should be Mr. Glass.


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Damn guys,

Sorry about Romo. That is just way too depressing. I really feel for both of you. It just sucks. That's all there is to it.

Well, if Dak can manage the team and Zeke kill with the running game who knows? Especially if Romo only misses six.

But the problem is, even if he does, how long till he's hurt again. I actually think he should maybe retire. It just doesn't seem like his body can take the beating any longer.

I hope for your guys sake, this turns into what happened with Big Ben. I loved him in college and wanted him bad. I was stunned when home town Cleveland and the Raiders, both in desperate need of a QB passed on him and he fell to us.

Then there was the other problem. Ben was third in line behind starter Maddox and back up Batch. So, just like with the draft, I hoped for this: that both those guys would get long term injuries and Ben could take the helm. And just as with the draft, amazingly, that is exactly what happened. Batch got hurt in pre season and Maddox went down in the first game.

The Steelers went 15-1 and that was the end of Maddox and Batch ever sniffing the starting job again.

So, even though this hurts, there is this possible bright side. Prescott is something special. What he has shown in the pre season is what he is or will end up being as he matures. And he plays so well in Romo's absence that Tony never gets behind center as the starter with the Cowboys again.

If I were a Cowboy fan, that's what I would hope for. No disrespect to Romo, who was a terrific QB, but they need to find someone who can stay on the field and he just isn't it anymore.


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Well SPQR, I think the writing is on the wall for Ol Romo. It's probably time for him to think about life after football and being able to play with his kids. Some guys just have the worst luck and he's one of them. Some of it is his on fault like not knowing how to fall and you'd think this guy would know how to slide by now.....lol. Anyway, it is what it is.


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Totally agree SPQR, think Dak could be the future. Thing that impresses me must is how teammates step their game up for him when he's on the field, in all the years I've watched J. Witten , I've never seen him go all out and make a catch like he did in that Seattle game. Players seem to play hard for Dak.


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Kkennon,

That is a good sign that they play hard for him. It means two things, they like what they see in him and he must be working very hard to have earned that kind of respect and effort. Nice.

I haven't seen Dak play yet, but after all the hype and praise I have been hearing him get from the national media, I really want to see what the young man has. I'll be trying to watch any Cowboys game I can now to check him out for myself.

Pete,

I think they will have to drag Romo screaming and kicking off the field in the end, no matter what team he is with. This guy wasn't some prince charming number one pick in the draft who had it all given to him. He was nothing coming into the pros and had to fight and earn every single thing he has. I think that has also engendered in him a deep, deep love and obsession for the game. He strikes me as a guy who football is everything.

I agree with you that he should consider leaving, if he wants any kind of normal life in his forties, fifties and beyond. But I don't think he will until nobody wants him.

Going back to our talk about Brown and his contract. Did you see the sneaky move the Steelers did, just as I knew they would?

They took four million of the money he was due next year and shifted it to this year. So now Brown can grin and bear one last year of being underpaid a little easier and next year, with Brown's last year under contract they can rip it up and give him a new one, which they will. And the Steelers can claim they kept to their inviolate law that they never renegotiate a contract with any player except the quarterback before his last year comes due.

Having that rule isn't a bad thing. It keeps player from demanding renegotiation before their last year. But the Steelers found themselves in a bad spot, Brown, like JJ Watt is the unquestioned best player at his position. That is a very odd and rare situation in football. So the Steelers now had their backs up against a very unusual wall because they it was a very bad look what they are paying Brown. What to do? Well, they figured a way out of the trap and saved face and their law.

Lol, funny isn't it?

What isn't funny is what happened to the Vikings fans with Teddy Bridgewater. Just like that a playoff season ends and they have nothing to look forward to. What a nightmare. Next year is forever away. And even worse, unlike Dallas they don't have a young prospect to come in and look at. They have an old, lousy geezer to suffer with. They are looking at sixteen games of pure offensiveless torture.

If I'm a Vikings fan i've already shifted into lets lose every game so we can get a high pick mode. Really, that's the only small consolation they can get at this point.


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SPQR,

That was a horrible injury that happened to Teddy. I mean a non contact drill. I was watching tv the day the news broke and the 1st person I thought about was Shaun Livingston and we know how long it took him to get back to playing decent basketball. Man I just feel sorry for the young man.


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Pete,

Yes, a huge setback for Teddy. And to be cold and blunt, this was also the year for the Vikings to really see if Teddy was the guy for their long haul. Now that is posponed.

And I just heard they traded a number one pick for Bradford. Wow. That's a high price to pay for what will be a one year guy if Teddy is the man.

The Vikings must feel they are a super bowl contender to have done that. Going to be very interesting to see how that plays out. And what if Bradford just totally kicks butt? Then what happens with Teddy?


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Hope this kid can get it together. Looks like he might be getting 2nd chance, sooner rather than later.


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Hope this kid can get it together. Looks like he might be getting 2nd chance, sooner rather than later.

Yeah I saw that and my response is "How the hell they pull that off?"......


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Well I will say this SPQR, Bradford held out earlier feeling disrespected because the Eagles moved up to get Wentz. Well now he has his chance to show and prove. Too me that's a lot of pressure but we'll see if he can handle it. As for Teddy, I say it takes him at least 2yrs to get back to some resemblance of himself. To be honest I just don't know. I mean as I stated before, it took Shaun Livingston quite some time to get back to a decent and respectable playing level. I pray the Vikings let this kid take his time to get back and not rush it only to have another setback.


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Pete,

Bradford has done lots of complaining. Almost as much time as he has spent on IR his career. And you are right, it is put up or shut up time for him. This Vikings team is actually the best team he has ever been on.

It is interesting that in the last week, I have been hearing much speculation on sports shows that Bradford may in fact make the Vikings better than Teddy would have. Teddy was having his best preseason but we will never know what he would have been this year. But I would say this may be true: If Bradford finally plays like the guy who was picked number one in the draft, if he actually reaches the potential ascribed to him, since he is only 28, Teddy may actually be finished with the Vikings before he even started because he will not settle for being a back up for long. He wants to start. If it becomes clear Bradford has that job for good, Teddy will be leaving.

I find the VIkings saga very interesting. In fact, right now, early in the season, the two most fascinating stories in the NFL are the Bradford-Teddy-VIkings situation and the Prescott-Romo-Dallas story. Both of them could end up making huge changes to what we thought were their solid quarterback situations. If Prescott and Bradford shine, we may have seen the last of Romo and Teddy as starters on those two teams. Watching these two things play out is real drama.

Well, the first game is in the books and Denver ended up beating Carolina again in a great opening game.

In the first half it looked like the Panthers would turn the tables on their super bowl bete noire as they took a ten point lead against a second year quarterback. But man, Denver at home is Denver and that defense is tough as a junk yard rat and even more nasty. They slowly hammered Cam and Carolina into submission and in the second half it was totally different.

Denver sealed it right at the end when Carolina missed a fifty yard field goal for the win.

A few thoughts: Denver showed they are not going off into that good night. They still have the defense and poise. That defense is brutal, and yes, also a bit illegal. They make late hits and bad hits but are willing to take that chance. It really paid off for them Thursday night with two head to head hits with Cam Newton that were not called.

It is funny in the NFL that there are a few quarterbacks that don't seem to get the full protection under the law that the others get and nothing like Brady, Brees and the retired Payton Manning got. That huge DO NOT TOUCH sign hanging around their heads. They three that come to mind mostly are Newton, Big Ben and Andrew Luck. For some reason these guys take hits, over and over, that would draw flags for any other quarterback but not for them. The things they have in common are all three are big and all three run around to make plays. But how does that equate into not enforcing the rules when they are hit illegally?

Denver got a steal taking that quarterback Siemien in the seventh round last year. I don't know if he will end up a good starter but I'm already pretty damn sure he will make a great back up and I suspect he will end up starting material. If they did that draft again, he would go a lot higher than round seven and would pass up many quarterbacks taken before him. I would love to have that guy right now as Ben's backup. I have a feeling many fans of other teams feel the same or would even like to have him as their starter.

What really impressed me the most was he seemed so cool in his first regular season game, going against a terrific team that was in the super bowl last year. Make no mistake, cool is a very rare skill in pro sports and that kid seems to have it in spades.

I'll also say this, if Paxton Lynch eventually ends up beating Siemien out, then Lynch is going to be on hell of a player. And the fact is, Siemien may never lose that job and may end up one hell of a player himself.

If he keeps learning and improving this year, it is possible Denver may end up better than last year. Remember, Manning was horrific last year.

I also think Denver made a very wise choice in letting Osweiller go. He never impressed me. The kid did Thursday night.

With Denver, Oakland, San Diego and KC in the west, it looks like the toughest division in the NFL. That's going to one brutal fight.

But right now, who would bet against Denver to take that division? I wouldn't.

It took Carolina forever to lose their first game last year. This year it took one game. But you could see they are a very powerful team and will be right in it to the end again. The return of monster sized receiver Benjamin will be a huge boon to them.

So after one great appetizer, we await the main course to served Sunday. One especially nice thing is my four oclock game is Dallas so I will get to see young Mr. Prescott for the first time. And finally, my own Steelers on Monday night, which will make for a indeterminable long work day for me to get though on Monday.


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The first week is in and what a week it was.

That Thursday night nail biter between Denver and Carolina was just a precursor to more of the same.

Four games were decided by one point and end of the game field goal attempts. Six games were decided by two points.

Some of the biggest results:

Kansas City came from forever back to beat the Chargers at home. The turning point was when Charger receiver Keenan Allen went down for the game and the season with a torn ACL. The Chargers were up by 21 at the time. Then only scored one more field goal and lost 33-27. Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith had the best game of his career to lead the comeback. He actually looked like a star player instead of the careful caretaker he has always been.

The loss and injury to Allen was brutal for the Chargers. That single game may have decided their season. What a tragedy for Allen who worked so hard to come back from another significant injury last year. Also bad news for the Bronco's and Raiders who could have seen their tough rival pinned with a rare division home loss.

The craziest of the crazy games had to be Oakland and the Saints. Like the Chiefs, the Raiders came from way, way back to win the game on a two point conversion. If they had not converted, they would have lost. I don't know if Del Rio is a good head coach or not but man, he sure has serious sacks between his legs. Very few coaches would thrown out the chance for a tie and overtime. But he did and he was rewarded. I like that.

The Raiders offense is lethal but the defense will need to improve a lot before they can think about being a real contender for the big dance. Del Rio is considered a defensive coach so their porous defense is odd. But they have a long season to figure it out.

The Jets sacked Bengals Andy Dalton seven times and still lost in a 23-22 classic. You have to credit Dalton. He would have crumbled under that onslaught just a couple years ago. Hell, most quarterbacks would have. But he was a true man and led his team back to win. The Bengals are for real and sent a message to the Steelers that they are not giving up anything easy, if the Steelers want the AFC North title back, they will have to take it.

Dallas lost a game they should have won in New York 20-19. That was a big loss for them because beating division rival Giants in New York would have set them up really nice. Dallas can thank immensely talented but mentally vacuous receiver Dez Bryant for dropping a sure, easy touchdown pass. Even with that, they could still have pulled it out except Terrance Williams stayed in bounds with time running out after catching a ball that put Dallas in easy field goal range for the win. That is a hard way to lose. But the loss is not the end of the world as it was in New York and Dallas will play them again in Big D.

In the biggest shocker of the week. the Patriots, sans Brady and Gronk strolled into Arizona and beat the team many have picked to win the superbowl, 23-21. A botched snap at the end of the game may have cost the Cardinals a come from behind win but the fact New England led the whole game and was in that kind of position is amazing. Now matter how one feels about Bellechick, he is amazing. The best NFL coach I have ever seen. They should have gotten killed in that game.

After the game Coach Arians really blasted his staff and himself saying they did not prepare the team. A day later, the GM said that loss was humiliating and never should have happened. They are correct. Let's see how they bounce back for it.

My Steelers looked terrific in just stomping on last years NFC East winners Redskins, 38-16. Even without Leveon Bell and tight end Ladareous Green and receiver Marcus Wheaton, they showed massive offensive pyrotechnics. Ben was tremendous and Brown gave the national audience yet another up close look at why he is all alone atop the pantheon of wide receivers. Bell's backup D'Angelo Williams picked up right where he left off last year, running for 143 yards. How did the Panthers ever let this guy go? He always finds the hole. Always. And he has the power and moves to exploit those holes to the fullest.

The Steelers really showed me something I have been looking for and missing for years. They went on the road and instead of squeaking out a field goal win or losing, even to scrub teams, they blew the Skins out of the stadium. I have never really considered the Steelers a legit Superbowl threat the last five years because their abysmal road play told me something important about them. Something not good.

Or to put it another way, to beat New England in the AFC, you have to play like them. New England is a road killer. If the Steelers show they are now, well then you are talking about a special team.

Lots of young quarterbacks on display this week, a couple really stood out.

Siemien and Prescott for Denver and Dallas looked nice. What I liked about both was they weren't overwhelmed by the situations of their first starts. They seemed cool and under control, which is a rare and desired trait for a young quarterback.

Neither of them hit on any spectacular plays but they didn't give their games away either, making rookie mistakes. In fact, the resembled each other very much.

Siemien won his game and Prescott lost, but Dak can thank Bryant and William for his first blemish because he should have had that win. The Giants were determined to stop Ezekial Elliot all game long and that gave Dak some room to throw. Too bad Dez and Williams couldn't come through for the kid.

The two star young quarterbacks who shinned really bright were Carson Wentz and Jameis Winston. Winston kicked butt all camp and he continued right on making all the big time throws in beating Atlanta.

Wentz also showed a spectacular arm and all the throws in ripping up Cleveland. What a debut he had.

You know, over the years Cleveland drafted Brady Quinn and Johnny Manziel as first round picks. They also passed on Big Ben twelve years ago and now Wentz. They passed on Wentz to sign RG3, who can't play quarterback a lick and is fragile as tissue. So while the Cleveland fans got to watch RG3 suck in his first game, then suffer an injury that will keep him out at least eight more games, they also got to watch the QB they should have drafted show off amazing passing skills.

Seriously, how much can a fan take? How long could anyone stay loyal to that team? It seems impossible. How bad can a front office be? Multiple front offices? Will it ever end?

Big games already coming this week.

Steelers vs Bengals in what has turned into the most bitter, physical rivalry in the league. Vontez Burfect will not be playing so that will take the edge of things a bit and probably save some Steeler from a season ending injury. This is football at it's highest level in every way.

The Vikings start the Bradford era against division rival Packers. It doesn't get any bigger than that.

Dallas travels to Washington. One team will come out of that game alright. the other 0-2. Ouch.

And now my long awaited by true football fans top ten list. We know it will change and evolve greatly over the coming months by injury and attrition that will weed out the the weak sisters and bring the best to the top.

For now they are:

1. New England. 1-0. They beat Arizona on the road without Brady and Gronk and you have to ask who is number one? I don't think so. Their defense looks as good as predicted. That is frightening.

2. Steelers. 1-0. Yep my Steelers. Road blowout of Washington showed what this offense can do. The scary part is they have three more huge weapons on the pine right now because of suspension and injury. All should be back.They also have found another gem WR in Eli Rodgers who was instrumental in our win. This guy is a monster in the slot and only in his second year. They are also slowly integrating some very promising defensive backs into the rotation. If everything works as planned, the sky is the limit here.

3. Denver. 1-0. Repeated their Superbowl win over Carolina. The defense looks as tough, nasty and dirty as last year. It all depends on Siemien. If the young QB can improve as the year goes on, they could attend the big dance yet again. But if he doesn't, it won't happen. They will need better QB play this year than last to get past the Steelers and Patriots and maybe some others.

4. Carolina. 0-1. They lost their first game quick this year, but they are loaded. The return of Benjamin should be huge.

5. Green Bay. 1-0. Beat an upcoming Jacksonville team 27-23 on the road. The return of Jordie Nelson should right what was wrong with Rodgers last year.

6. Bengals. 1-0. Dalton and Bengals overcame seven sacks to beat the Jets. That's toughness. They will have to overcome the losses of receivers Jones and Sunnu. Rookie Tyler Boyd is the man who will have to help them do that. He looks like he may.

7. Vikings. 1-0. They survived Hill playing quarterback for a road win in Houston. Hill didn't play half bad. Now it's on to the Sam Bradford era. Bradford will have to play like the first guy drafted, finally, for the Vikings to have Super bowl dreams. They have the defense.

8. Seattle. 1-0. Should have lost to Miami except for the easy touchdown pass that was dropped. Not a great look in their home opener.

9. Oakland Raiders. 1-0. Transcendent QB Carr and company developing an offense that can rival any in the league. They showed it in the great road comeback win against the Saints. But man, that defense. They need to work double time on that or it won't happen this year.

10. Chiefs. 1-0. Unbelievable home comeback win over the Chargers. They can thank Alex Smith for the best game of his life. He actually looked like a first round pick. And they can thank Keenan Allen for going down and out for with a torn ACL. The Chargers scored 24 points with him in and only 3 after he left.

Hovering just outside the top ten, humiliated Arizona and the Giants who look like they have a hell of a receiving corps.

And that my friends and fellow football fans, is the way it really is after week one.


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Terrence Williams.....smh. Been in the league 4yrs and doesn't know to catch the ball and get out of bounds. Wow!!!!...Dez Bryant, beginning to rethink JJ paying you all that money. Anyway, SPQR, enjoyed watching Big Ben and Antonio "Nino" Brown. What a duo.


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Pete,

I made a point to watch that game because I wanted to see The Kid. I was pulling for him and Cowboys. He did fine. He did enough to win that game. Dez at his age and with his skill level should have caught that TD in is sleep. That play cost literally Dak and Cowboys the huge road division win and there is no way to sugar coat it. A star has to make that catch.

As for Williams, I have seen so many dumb plays in my life, as I'm sure you have, but that one ranks right at the top. Just ridiculous. I feel bad for you about that loss. It never should have happened.

I remember clear as day when Dez came out in the draft. I wanted him in the worst possible way but suspected the Steelers would not take him because of the personal issues that were floating around about him. The Steelers were always trying to be like that back then. That proved accurate and I was so very, very disappointed. It bothered me for a long time.

But all these years later, despite the terrific career he has had, I no longer feel that regret. When I think of Dez I think of potential unrealized, of what could have and should have been. He should have been so much better. He had the body and skill to be the dominate receiver for years. Putting up numbers like Brown does. Because I live here I know about Brown's insane work ethic, which is exactly just like Kobe's. He is obsessed with being unstoppable, with being the best reliever in the league, not only now, but of all time. It's all he lives for. Just like Kobe did. With Dez on the other side it seems to me there just was something missing that prevented him from being all his physical talented predicated he should have been.

I am enjoying the Ben Brown show, every second of it. I know it won't last forever. I also know I will never see it again with the Steelers. Just a rare, spectacular confluence of two transcendent talents that does not happen often. I will be a sad, sad fan when those two gents fad into the sunset.

A Superbowl win or two would be the perfect capstone for them. But it's so hard to get, isn't it?


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Dude if your team had all of it's weapons at their disposal, I would say hands down the Steelers would represent the AFC in the Super Bowl. It appears both our teams have a weed/drug problem but my team has that and owner that just cares about make dollars and cents now. He leads on like he wants to win football games but what he really wants is to win the popularity and money game. With that logic, we've won the last 3 or 4 SB's....lmao!!!!!!!......How pathetic. But hey that's my team so I have no choice but to accept it.


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Pete,

I don't even want to think about what the Steelers could have had on offense if Martavis Bryant wasn't a pot head. That guy is amazing. He can score from anywhere on the field. The biggest physical freak TD receiver since Moss. But he is gone for the year and I really don't have any hope that he will get and stay clean. But we still have Bell, Wheaton and Ladareous Green waiting to return this season and hopefully they all will.

But I still can't help bout wonder what might have been with Bryant. If he had played this year along with the rest of those guys, they would have had a chance to be the most prolific offense in NFL history. I really believe that.

You know, the Jerry Jones thing is funny. I remember when he took over and fired legend Tom Landry. I don't have to tell you that was blasphemy. But it was the right call and I approved of it totally, just like when also legend Chuck Noll left the Steelers. Landry and Noll were done.

Then when Jones hired Jimmy Johnson I thought, Wow, this Jones is a terrific owner to make those two moves. I loved Johnson at Miami and when the Cowboys hired him I knew super bowls would be coming and they did.

So here you have this new owner starting off pulling the trigger on two huge, gutsy moves: Firing a legend and hiring a college coach. And I'm sure you remember he caught a lot of heat for both those moves. I loved both of them. And when Johnson built a machine and started winning super bowls everyone forgot about him being a college coach and Landry became Tom Who? At that point I thought Jones would take his place with the very best owners in all of sports.

I changed my mind about Jones when he fired Johnson, lol. There was a lot to that story, both guys had huge egos and neither really wanted to share credit for those super bowls. But for me, the bottom line was this: Jones shouldn't have cared if Johnson was getting the lions share of the credit. Just like Robert Craft doesn't care if Bellechick gets the credit in NE or the Rooneys don't care if Noll, Cowher and Tomlin got the credit. Or Dr. Buss didn't care when Pat Riley was being called a genius.

If you really want to win, then you don't care. When Jones fired Johnson you could see he wanted to win, but only if he got the credit.

Then when he hired knuckle head Barry Switzer, well, that told me everything about Jones. He probably prevented the Cowboys from winning another super bowl by getting rid of Johnson. Yeah, Switzer got one but that was only because of the muscle memory and talent that team had from Johnson. It didn't take long for Switzer to run that team into the ground.

I would tell you to have hope though. Jones son seems far more level headed than dad. He was the one who prompted the building of that great offensive line and not drafting Johnny Football. You just have to hope that the son continues to get more and more say in football operations. It's kind of like how Al Davis' son finally righting that long sinking Raider ship because the old man had lost it long upstairs many years ago. Of course it took Oakland Al's death for that to happen. Hopefully you won't have to wait that long for Jerry's son to become the prime mover on team.

Good luck today, Pete. Two huge games for both our teams. Going to be exciting.


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Pete, Kkennon,

Congratulations on the huge win against the Skins. Not only do you get a must win over a division rival but you knock them down to 0-2.

Prescott and Zeke did well.

Bet you're really longing for Brandon Weeden, huh?


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Lmao SPQR at the Weeden reference. Absolutely not longing for him lol!!!!!....Dak is the real deal. I'll take the win but was Garrett trying to give the game away. In the 3rd quarter, Dak rushes for a TD and then we come back and do an onside kick!!!!...I mean does Garrett think he's Andy Reid....smh at that one. Watching Dez though, I couldn't tell if he was there to play football or be BFF's with Josh Norman. I mean every play he's laughing it up with Norman. Getting tired of him. I tell you what though, can't believe the Rams beat the Seahawks. I watched that whole game and both teams got after it all day. 9-3, no TD's only FG's. Both QB's took a beating. I guess the Rams should wear the LA uniforms for now on lol!!!!! Jeff Fisher extension to follow that win...lol!!!!! Oh and Von Miller is a beast. I watched the Broncos/Colts as well. Think Broncos have the best defense in the NFL. Your Steelers did what I thought they were going to do the Bengals and Andy Dalton.


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Pete,

I thought you might like the Weeden reference.

I didn't get to see the game, wasn't televised here but the Garrett play must have had you saying a few choice words, lol.

Week two brought out plenty of stories as each one usually does.

The two miracle rookie quarterbacks Dak Prescott and Carson Wentz both continued to play well and win, Dallas taking out division rival Washington and Philly destroying pathetic Chicago.

These two guys are showing terrific stuff because in my view there is only one position harder to play than quarterback in all of sports and that is playing quarterback as a rookie.

Of course both will have their ups and downs, it's going to happen, but man, they are showing some good things.

My Steelers took out the Bengals. I loved the win but not how they got it. Ben left too many plays on the field. You can get away with that against almost any team and still win, if you are good, but not against New England, and that's the team you have to beat in the AFC and that is who I always measure the Steelers against.

But that being said, I'll take the win. We have held serve at home, next time it will be in Cinci.

One thing did stand out in that game, both Antonio Brown and AJ Green were nullified. Was it because both teams know each so well and both concentrated their defenses on those two wide outs? Either way, what were the odds on both being negligible in the stats department?

The Vikings got a huge home win over Green Bay but it came with a hard cost as Adrian Peterson suffered his second bad knee injury. He could miss four to six weeks or the whole season if he ops for surgery. I would go under the knife. Why play on a damaged knee all year and risk your career?

For the Vikings, that is the second big injury in the young year, with Teddy Bridgewater being the first. I said a few weeks ago that the injuries to Teddy and Romo may have long standing consequences to those two quarterbacks depending on how Dak and Bradford played. Probably less so for Romo. In all likely hood he will get that job back no matter how Prescott plays because Romo is just that good and established when healthy.

But as I watched Bradford show off physical skils and an arm Teddy will never have, you could almost feel his career in Viking land slipping further and further away with every pass Bradford completed in the win over Green Bay.

If Bradford continues to play like this and not get hurt, a big if considering his track record, I don't think there is much doubt that Teddy will not get that job back and will rightfully ask for a trade. He will not want to sit behind Bradford for six years to wait his turn. He thinks he is a starter and showed enough already to get that chance somewhere.

Carolina rebounded for the Denver loss with a drubbing of San Francisco. That was expected. As was Arizona's rebound from the New England debacle by destroying Tampa 40-7. Jameis Winston, who looked so fantastic in week one looked just as lost and and bad in throwing four picks in that game.

Seattle followed up their close, very lucky win over Miami with a loss to the Rams. Right now their offense is beyond putrid. They need to straighten that up fast because the NFL season goes by fast and teams are unforgiving if you show weakness.

Denver beat up on Indy 34-20 dropping the Colts to 0-2, a position they are becoming used to lately. Indy is going nowhere. I think they really need to make some front offices changes there, namely head Coach Pagano and their GM. This team has been kind of just floundering around for three years with no improvement in the areas that are bad. You can't waste years with a quarterback like Luck in the fold and that is exactly what they are doing.

Another team that may need to look for a better head man is Oakland. For the last year and two games this season now Coach Del Rio's defense has been beyond abysmal. So bad they need to invent a new word to describe it. The problem goes beyond that because they actually have some really good players on that side of the ball. There is no excuse for what is happening. The funny part is, Del Rio was supposed to be a defensive coach. They have an all world offense but as long as the defense plays that way all those offensive pyrotechnics end up just being a very pretty but ultimately futile tease.

Some big games this week:

My Steelers travel to take on the Carson Wentz Miracle and Ben has never won there. Ever. Philly is 2-0 and a game that looked easy in the pre season suddenly has some real cachet.

A huge game is coming this Thursday as two undefeated teams clash when Houston visits the Patriots. Jimmy Garappalo played lights out in beating Miami but injured his throwing shoulder and may not play. If that is the case then the Pats will start a rookie against one of the best defenses in football. For teams like the Steelers and Denver that covet home field over the Pats, this game is more than intriguing. It could also decide home field when all is said and done.

The undefeated Vikings travel to Carolina. Tough game to play period, let alone without Adrian Peterson. Lots of Vikings will have to step way up for them to stay in it. They have the defense but the offense will have to show too.

In another fun looking game, the suddenly very exciting Jets travel to Kansas City. If the Jets can pull it out it will go a long way to helping their playoff hopes.

Finally you have Denver and their second year QB traveling to the Bengals. Cinci does not want to drop to 1-2. This has the makings of a real tough scrum.

There are some changes in my top ten this week as some teams leave, some fall and others ascend in.

My top ten this week:

  1. Patriots. 2-0. Grappalo looks like Brady in dissecting Miami. But will he play with a bum shoulder against Houston's ferocious defense? If the Pats win with a rookie QB should we just stop the season and give them the title?

  2. Steelers. 2-0. Steelers beat division rival Bengals in a sloppy game but one they never felt or looked like they would lose. Next up, undefeated Philly and the Carson Wentz Miracle in a stadium Big Ben has never won in.

  3. Denver 2-0. Beat down of Colts. Simien looked Ok. He will need to progress for them to repeat. Next up, tough game in Cinci.

  4. Carolina. 1-1. They crush Frisco and now face the very good but Peterson less Vikings at home.

  5. Vikings 2-0. Terrific home win over the old boss Green Bay. If you want to be the new boss, you have to take out the old. Next up, brutal game in Carolina.

  6. Arizona. 1-1. Back in my top ten. No real surprise. They showed what the can do destroying Tampa, and when they are not playing New England. Next up Buffalo.

  7. Green Bay. 1-1. Close loss on the road to Vikings.

  8. Cincinnati. 1-1. No shame in road loss to Steelers, especially without super tight end Effert. Big one at home against Broncos next.

  9. Houston. 2-0. That defense is for real. They get New England at the perfect time....if Garappalo isn't playing.

  10. Seattle. 1-1. Lucky they aren't 0-2. Great defense, no offense and right now living on a prayer. Playing at home against Frisco should help. Right?


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Damn Pete,

I just noticed the Steelers play the Cowboys November 13th LOL. I didn't know. That should be fun. Let's hope both teams are healthy for the game.


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Dam and it's in Pittsburgh too.....smh for my defense...lol.


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Pete,

Smh for our defense too. We have a grand total of one sack and the pass rush of a gentle lamb.

38-35? LOL.


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Week three is over, funny how fast the football season moves. Like a down hill runaway truck.

My Steelers had their first loss of the year, so bad it could count for two losses, 34-3 at Philly.

There were several components to it, two of which did not surprise me, one that did. There was no pass rush at all. Not unexpected since we have nobody who can rush the passer. Going against a rookie QB I think they should have blitzed everything including the kitchen sink to try put some pressure on him. They didn't and Wentz stood tall looking every bit a franchise quarterback in passing for 300 yards, two touch downs and no picks. Philly has some player there for the next decade or more. That is 3-0 for the kid.

Big Ben left too many plays on the field. Again, no shock to me. He does this regularly on the road.

The surprise was the offensive line, which was supposed to be one of the best in the league just getting man handled. Ben was under pressure and there were no holes for the backs. This was the second game in a row the offensive line lost the trench battle. What's up with that?

It all led up to a total disaster. The Steelers haven't won in Philly since 1965 and the way they looked, they may not win there till 2516.

Super running back Bell finally returns this week for the Steelers. At least until his next weed suspension comes.

New England continued on their merry way just destroying undefeated Houston 27-0 behind a rookie QB starting his first game. Houston Coach O'Brien had his defense playing like Brisset was going to stand in the pocket like Marino that throw the ball. Of course that was not going to happen. It was not O'Brien's finest hour.

Boy did Houston waste money on Osweiller. He looked very mediocre last year with Denver and looks exactly the same in Houston. That team will never be for real with him.

Houston also lost JJ Watt for the year with his back injury. Fact is, they just allowed him to come back too soon from surgery. Now they will pay a huge price for that impatience.

Brisset was hurt and it is debatable if he or Garropalo will be able to play against Bills this week at home. Does it matter? You know Billechick can start a cheerleader at QB and still find a way to beat the Bills at home.

Denver had a great win in Cinci. Young QB Simien had a good game throwing for four touchdowns. He also threw two horrific passes that should have intercepted but were dropped. Regardless he is giving them much more at the position than Manning or Osweiller did last year. That bodes well for them.

In another statement game, the Vikings went to Carolina and must man handled the defending NFC champs. Denver is assumed to have the best defense in the league, but man, the Vikings might be just as good or even better. This is a team coming hard. If they had some more offensive weapons I would call them the heavy favorites in the NFC.

Cam Newton was all everything last year, he does not look like the same player right now.

In another shocker, Arizona got their second embarrassment in three weeks and fall to 1-2 after getting spanked by Buffalo 33-18. It's early yet, but Carson Palmer looks finished.

One other shout out this week and that is for Dak Prescott, along with Wentz the other rookie sensation of 2016 as he led his team over the Redskins.

You know Romo will get that job back as soon as he is healthy. But man, as soon as he throws some picks or can't move the team for a couple of games the fans will be calling hard for Dak and it may be hard to resist that call.

You think Wentz and Prescott, in the same division might have some epic confrontations over the next decade if they both keep getting better? Wow.

Big game coming up:

Kansas City, which has won 13 of it's last 15 games visits the Steelers. The Steelers were decimated with injuries in the Philly game, especially in the secondary, but they need to bounce back big time from the debacle they had last week. If they lose this game, things get dicey.

Oakland goes to Baltimore. Can the Raiders beat the cross country flying jinx? It would be a great win for them as Baltimore is 3-0.

My top ten:

  1. New England. 3-0. The Master wins once again in a situation that almost any other coach and team would lose against. Billechick is amazing.

  2. Denver. 3-0. Big beat down at Cinci. They look really, really good.

  3. Vikings. 3-0. They jump up to number three. Peterson out for the year? No problem. Not with that defense.

  4. Green Bay. 2-1. The offense of yesteryear was on display in throwing up 34 against Detroit.

  5. Philly. 3-0. So far they have a great defensive line and The Carson Wentz Miracle. Is that all they have and how far can it get them? So far to undefeated in three games.

  6. Baltimore. 3-0. Are they for real? They are winning ugly, real ugly, and not against top teams, but the defense looks like it is rebounding from last season. A much sterner test against the high flying Raiders offense this week at home.

  7. Steelers. 2-1. It doesn't get much worse than last week when Tomlin suffered his worst ever loss. KC is not a good team to try rebound against, but if you are a top team, you should do it. Now lets see if the Steelers are

  8. Seattle. 2-1. Offense came to life against pathetic San Francisco. But like the Steelers, they too have injury concerns.

  9. Carolina. 1-2. Right now they are looking bad and very lucky to be in the weakest division in football.

  10. Raiders. 2-1. Surprise, surprise, the Raiders actually played defense in beating the Titans 17-10. Or is the Titan offense just that bad? Interesting test for Carr and company in the dreaded east coast flight to undefeated Baltimore.


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THE FUTURE IS HERE!!!!!


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Kkennon,

The future certainly is here for the cowboys. Zeke is as advertised and Prescott is having one of the all time rookie quarterback seasons in history so far.

Now the big question for you and Pete, when Romo is ready do you want him back in or do you keep riding Prescott?

That decision will have to be made. What do you two prefer to have happen?


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I definitely don't want Romo back at anytime but he's family to JJ so he will be back in the starting lineup when we play Philly if rumor is true coming out of Cowboy camp.

But hey I like what I saw out of my boys and your Steelers kick you know what!!!!!! Man the Rams beat the Cardinals, the Falcons demolished the Panthers....what a weekend of NFL football and college football as well.


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Pete,

I see it as you do. What's the point of going back to Romo? He's on the downside of his career and putting him back in just delays what has to happen and costs Prescott invaluable experience. He's playing great and the team is responding to him in a huge way.

Why go back in time with Romo and then have to do it all over again in a year or two?

Carolina and Arizona look really bad, as do Palmer and Cam. Which is a good thing because it's opening up spots for the Cowboys in case you don't win the division.

Man if things keep going like this those Cowboy - Philly games are gonna be something else.


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I'm not really worried about Romo at this point SPQR, don't wish any harm on him, but I just don't think his body holds up anymore. Which will make Dak starter anyways. But either way, with that running game coming back like 2014, think either will be fine leading them.


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