Jeanie Buss 'pushing' for Byron to Remain the Head Coach

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believe it or not, Byron Scott has what one source described as a "major chance" to stay with the Lakers; Jeanie Buss is said to be pushing for Scott behind the scenes. If so, it could clear the way for a top-to-bottom reset for the franchise in 2017, and the possible return of Jackson to run basketball operations with Luke Walton as the coach. There are a lot of dots to be connected to get from here to there, though -- not to mention a lot more games for the Lakers to lose.

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All those "fire Jim and let Jeannie be in total control" are in for a very rude shock. First up she has always been in full control and conveniently slid under the radar.

Thanks to Jeannie we might still have the 4th edition of the tank and could potentially salvage the pick from Orlando....hahaha. What a fk'n joke.

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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:

All those "fire Jim and let Jeannie be in total control" are in for a very rude shock. First up she has always been in full control and conveniently slid under the radar.

Thanks to Jeannie we might still have the 4th edition of the tank and salvage the pick from Orlando....hahaha. What a fk'n joke.

Well MAGICLAKEZ, looks like you might be breaking out the Tank thread next season too....smh

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Well MAGICLAKEZ, looks like you might be breaking out the Tank thread next season too....smh

Haha. It's tank season next year even before this season has ended. What a joke If you ask me. They might do worse next season than what philly did this year. Lmao!!!

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If this is Jeanie's plan after all, she needs to leave tomorrow along with Kobe. Byron can leave on his way out too. This is ridiculous. Ownership doesn't have a clue as to what to do with the franchise every since Dr. Buss passed away. Instead, they're alluding more to the glory days of showtime to help bring them back to relevancy. Bringing in Phil isn't even a good idea in the first place. He's clearly done a horrible job in New York and everyone is clearly frustrated with him there.

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I don't think this is legit. Say what you want about the Lakers' competence, but they are pretty good at keeping stuff in house. When they do stuff, it generally comes out of the blue, it doesn't hang out there for weeks or months. As babbly as Jeanie seems she could be, I don't think she would go around spouting this stuff to fellow employees or her siblings. When the stories get stale, journalists will go to great lengths to get more views. Explains Henry Abbott's ridiculous article on Kobe, or Wojnarowski doing the same thing.

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I don't think this is legit. Say what you want about the Lakers' competence, but they are pretty good at keeping stuff in house. When they do stuff, it generally comes out of the blue, it doesn't hang out there for weeks or months. As babbly as Jeanie seems she could be, I don't think she would go around spouting this stuff to fellow employees or her siblings.

You do realize that this is the same person who is going to marry someone her late dads age (not that there's anything wrong with that) and then hangs her breasts on her Twitter handle. And do you have the playboy magazine 95-96 edition? She was the playmate that year....hahaha. Stay Dwight billboards on rodeo drive...anyone?? That's our lakers president for you. I know life is full of choices...however not all of them have to be weird.

Therefore i would keep that in perspective before proclaiming laker competence. Time will tell if this is legit or not. We have already heard murmurs/rumblings about Byron staying on.

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With the only laker news being all about Kobe, I'm not too worried about "sources" saying what may and may not happen.

I really don't see them giving Scott another year, even if they were he would be fired by Xmas. Which begs the question just what is the point in going that route in the first place.

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I'm so surprised....I'm so surprised....lol!!!!!

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I'm so surprised....I'm so surprised....lol!!!!!

You were right all along....lmao!!!

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You were right all along....lmao!!!

LMAO!!!!...nothing's concrete but I did say repeatedly don't be surprised.

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I hope we get rid of Byron next year, however if they decide to keep him, we need to try and get a really good offensive assistant coach.

I think our Defense could be decent if we had an offense. Bad offense is in most cases what leads to a bad defense.

Take for example Spurs and GSW, the top 2 offensive teams, but also near the top defensive teams.

If you can score the bucket and not turn it over, you give your team a chance to setup a defense.

I don't think Byron has it in him to know how to play offense in this generation of NBA.

Unfortunately we are not going to find a really good offense coach that wants to be an assistant.

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Ray wrote:
I hope we get rid of Byron next year, however if they decide to keep him, we need to try and get a really good offensive assistant coach.

I think our Defense could be decent if we had an offense. Bad offense is in most cases what leads to a bad defense.

Take for example Spurs and GSW, the top 2 offensive teams, but also near the top defensive teams.

If you can score the bucket and not turn it over, you give your team a chance to setup a defense.

I don't think Byron has it in him to know how to play offense in this generation of NBA.

Unfortunately we are not going to find a really good offense coach that wants to be an assistant.

True, because less missed shots means less fast breaks and our fast break defense is a joke. If we make shots we have time to get back and set up on defense. No one gets that though when I say it.

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Whether the Lakers fire Scott (I hope they do), no matter who we pick up in the draft (I hope we're lucky enough to snag either Simmons or Ingram), and regardless of who we get in FA (hopefully Batum and Whiteside/Ezeli/Zeller/etc.), I just hope that next year we can implement some sort of legitimate offensive and defensive philosophy. I really REALLY hope we can play something other than iso ball on the offensive side of the ball. Also, I hope we can play something other than matador defense.

Sorry for the run-on sentence, but I just really hope that at least this can get done starting next year.

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Look at the bright side of keeping Bryon for another year. I saved a lot of money since I didn't go to any games. I got a lot of special projects done around the house since I didn't spend time watching the games on TV. If the Front office keeps him around for another year I may even cancel my Time Warner. This has been great for the family budget

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FrankBecerra wrote:
Look at the bright side of keeping Bryon for another year. I saved a lot of money since I didn't go to any games. I got a lot of special projects done around the house since I didn't spend time watching the games on TV. If the Front office keeps him around for another year I may even cancel my Time Warner. This has been great for the family budget

I'm right with you on cancelling TWC. It's not even entertaining to watch them play.

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True, because less missed shots means less fast breaks and our fast break defense is a joke. If we make shots we have time to get back and set up on defense. No one gets that though when I say it.

Most modern teams actually for go the offensive board to get back and set up on defense. I don't know what the Lakers try to do, it's just a Mish mash of no one knowing wtf is going on lol.

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Quit Fk'n around Jeanie and give B. Scott your vote of confidence.....LMAO!!!!!!

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Quit Fk'n around Jeanie and give B. Scott your vote of confidence.....LMAO!!!!!!

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If Byron is slated to be head coach next year, we will have a very tough time getting good free agents. Not firing Byron would be yet another sign that the Laker management has not a clue on what they are doing.

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WilttheStilt wrote:
If Byron is slated to be head coach next year, we will have a very tough time getting good free agents. Not firing Byron would be yet another sign that the Laker management has not a clue on what they are doing.

And if they do decide to let him go, all the better coaches will probably gone by the time they do it.

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And if they do decide to let him go, all the better coaches will probably gone by the time they do it.

Yeah, could be. My hope is that they will let a top free agent help decide which coach. For example, they can offer Durant a max contract, and he can help decide who his coach is going to be. This may not be allowed in the rules, but at least they can kind of do an under the table type offer. Let Durant help build the whole team for that matter. Anything to get him.

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Yeah, could be. My hope is that they will let a top free agent help decide which coach. For example, they can offer Durant a max contract, and he can help decide who his coach is going to be. This may not be allowed in the rules, but at least they can kind of do an under the table type offer. Let Durant help build the whole team for that matter. Anything to get him.

So you want another LBJ in LA running things. Lol!!

Well if Durant wants Brooks again, read today that he's interviewing with Wizards next week and is supposed to be their #1 choice.

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And if they do decide to let him go, all the better coaches will probably gone by the time they do it.

Yeah, things need to happen fast. The sooner he is gone the more time they have to search and interview. Even the kings understand that.

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So you want another LBJ in LA running things. Lol!!

Well if Durant wants Brooks again, read today that he's interviewing with Wizards next week and is supposed to be their #1 choice.

You don't want LBJ in LA running things? Really? Durant and LBJ together would be an unlikely, but fantastic, outcome for us this off-season.

True that timing is tricky. I am not certain that Durant wants to play for Brooks again. Who knows. Teams are reaching out to coaches now, so we might lose a candidate or 2 if we wait. I am still hoping for Luke Walton, but there are a lot of good coach candidates out there. No Byron Scott. We need a coach that the free agents want.

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I hope just as much as every does that Scott is gone sooner rather than later. However, there is a small part of me that wants him to stick around just a little bit longer. If you recall, he was our good luck charm during the draft lottery. Maybe he can work his magic again?

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You don't want LBJ in LA running things? Really? Durant and LBJ together would be an unlikely, but fantastic, outcome for us this off-season.

True that timing is tricky. I am not certain that Durant wants to play for Brooks again. Who knows. Teams are reaching out to coaches now, so we might lose a candidate or 2 if we wait. I am still hoping for Luke Walton, but there are a lot of good coach candidates out there. No Byron Scott. We need a coach that the free agents want.

No I don't want LBJ in LA, maybe 5 years ago, but now no!!! Still don't think a Durant and LBJ team beat Warriors. We'll have a player getting towards the downside of his prime and one who's in his prime, who's been injured a lot in the last few years. Plus they'd be leading a team that's not anywhere close to seriously contending for a championship. But I'm not remotely even thinking there's a chance either come here anyways.

And when I said running things, I meant LBJ runs things in Cleveland like he's the head of basketball operations. Do think any player should have that much power.

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No I don't want LBJ in LA, maybe 5 years ago, but now no!!! Still don't think a Durant and LBJ team beat Warriors. We'll have a player getting towards the downside of his prime and one who's in his prime, who's been injured a lot in the last few years. Plus they'd be leading a team that's not anywhere close to seriously contending for a championship. But I'm not remotely even thinking there's a chance either come here anyways.

And when I said running things, I meant LBJ runs things in Cleveland like he's the head of basketball operations. Do think any player should have that much power.

LBJ is more questionable than Durant. But Durant, come on. He would be the building block to make a contender over the next few years. BRING DURANT IN, AND THEY WILL COME.

Should a player have that much power? Who cares. It is irrelevant. We are trying to win. If our management is anything like Jerry Buss was, they will do what it takes to win, within the rules of course, and as I stated, I don't know if it is within the rules..

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LBJ is more questionable than Durant. But Durant, come on. He would be the building block to make a contender over the next few years. BRING DURANT IN, AND THEY WILL COME.

Should a player have that much power? Who cares. It is irrelevant. We are trying to win. If our management is anything like Jerry Buss was, they will do what it takes to win, within the rules of course, and as I stated, I don't know if it is within the rules..

No I have no problem with Durant, just don't think team is good enough with Durant and say Whiteside or Derozan, to beat Warriors or Spurs right now. Our young players haven't really shown me anything yet that makes me think they'll be a contending team in the next few years.

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kkennon1 wrote:
No I have no problem with Durant, just don't think team is good enough with Durant and say Whiteside or Derozan, to beat Warriors or Spurs right now. Our young players haven't really shown me anything yet that makes me think they'll be a contending team in the next few years.

Yes, I like Whiteside and DeRozan as well. If we have no successful trades, then we need to acquire at least one of them for a successful off-season, Durant, Whiteside or DeRozan. There is almost no chance for LBJ or Drummond.

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Yes, I like Whiteside and DeRozan as well. If we have no successful trades, then we need to acquire at least one of them for a successful off-season, Durant, Whiteside or DeRozan. There is almost no chance for LBJ or Drummond.

If we can only get one of them, I'll take Durant. DeRozan isn't going to do anything for this team by himself, nor is Whiteside, but at least with Whiteside you'd have a defensive presents in the middle. Getting Durant will attract other FA'S hopefully, but I also think getting Durant would mean some of the young core will be traded.

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After listening to Mitch's exit interview, I'm not convinced they're going to be bringing Scott back. I don't think he created a good relationship between himself and the young core. That seemed like something the front office was hoping for. They also seem to understand that his style isn't suitable for this modern day age NBA. Although Scott understands that analytics services a big part, it doesn't seem like he implements it much into his gameplan. I think their jobs fringe too much on luring Durant here that they'll end up making a new hire. This offseason is an important one for them regardless of what they say cause this is it.

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WilttheStilt wrote:
Yes, I like Whiteside and DeRozan as well. If we have no successful trades, then we need to acquire at least one of them for a successful off-season, Durant, Whiteside or DeRozan. There is almost no chance for LBJ or Drummond.

The window of the Warriors is not that long if they are not willing to pay the luxury tax and then the repeater tax. Curry is going to get a max offer from somebody. If they pay Barnes this summer they are tied up for $90 million with 4 players when the cap starts to fall back down to $100 million. (Providing they pay Curry the max)

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After listening to Mitch's exit interview, I'm not convinced they're going to be bringing Scott back. I don't think he created a good relationship between himself and the young core. That seemed like something the front office was hoping for. They also seem to understand that his style isn't suitable for this modern day age NBA. Although Scott understands that analytics services a big part, it doesn't seem like he implements it much into his gameplan. I think their jobs fringe too much on luring Durant here that they'll end up making a new hire. This offseason is an important one for them regardless of what they say cause this is it.

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"I know he's hoping that he coaches here forever, but a lot of times what we do is we're really doing is preparing for the next GM or the next coach, and that's tough sometimes," Kupchak said.

I think that quote is really interesting.

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Tempy wrote:
I think that quote is really interesting.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/fixin ... es-lakers/

Yeah, especially the part where he said next GM.

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Added a poll- what do you guys think of the prospects of BS staying the Lakers head coach next season?

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Dave wrote:
Added a poll- what do you guys think of the prospects of BS staying the Lakers head coach next season?

So what is your reasoning for Scott should be coach next season Dave.

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Tempy wrote:
So what is your reasoning for Scott should be coach next season Dave.

I voted for "He will be, but he shouldn't". So I don't think he should be, but unfortunately I think he will stay based on what management has indicated thus far.

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Tempy wrote:
The window of the Warriors is not that long if they are not willing to pay the luxury tax and then the repeater tax. Curry is going to get a max offer from somebody. If they pay Barnes this summer they are tied up for $90 million with 4 players when the cap starts to fall back down to $100 million. (Providing they pay Curry the max)

It is a good point that there may be future opportunities. The Warriors are probably willing to pay luxury tax, because they are so successful and sold out right now, but you never know. If we strike out this off-season, a fall back position would be to do a bunch of 1 year deals again. I would rather do a bunch of 1 year deals than do poor multi year deals.

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kkennon1 wrote:
If we can only get one of them, I'll take Durant. DeRozan isn't going to do anything for this team by himself, nor is Whiteside, but at least with Whiteside you'd have a defensive presents in the middle. Getting Durant will attract other FA'S hopefully, but I also think getting Durant would mean some of the young core will be traded.

DeRozan by himself would not do much, but he could be one piece to a good team. Something like DeRozan, Conley (at a good price) and Cole Aldrich on long term deals. Maybe Bass too. Who knows, maybe someone like Wade or Rondo needs a change and would take a big pay cut. Plus our first pick. DeRozan would need to be pieced together with guys on bargain contracts. Then, it could be the start of something good. But if it is overpaying guys, forget it. Then, we would be better off passing on just DeRozan at a max.

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Tempy wrote:
The window of the Warriors is not that long if they are not willing to pay the luxury tax and then the repeater tax. Curry is going to get a max offer from somebody. If they pay Barnes this summer they are tied up for $90 million with 4 players when the cap starts to fall back down to $100 million. (Providing they pay Curry the max)

I don't think they play Barnes max, and if they do, they can always trade him down the line. Think their window is wide open as long as they have their core of Curry, Green, Thompson and a few other less costly players. They can pretty much plug in bargain FA'S here and there in the upcoming years, and with J.West there evaluating talent, I think this team still has a good 4 to 5 year window....imo

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Dave wrote:
I voted for "He will be, but he shouldn't". So I don't think he should be, but unfortunately I think he will stay based on what management has indicated thus far.

My bad,I was reading the wrong option.

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Yeah, Byron will come back and he'll want Lou Williams to stay and give him more minutes than Russell. He will ruin Russell's growth on this team by playing veterans over our youth. He has a boner for Williams man..

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Dave wrote:
I voted for "He will be, but he shouldn't". So I don't think he should be, but unfortunately I think he will stay based on what management has indicated thus far.

I voted the same. I concur with your assessment. Unfortunately if Jeannie has her way, we will see some more records being broken.....for NBA futility...lol.

Russell/Randle are going to face mid life crisis at the age of 20....hahaha.

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Yeah, Byron will come back and he'll want Lou Williams to stay and give him more minutes than Russell. He will ruin Russell's growth on this team by playing veterans over our youth. He has a boner for Williams man..

ROFL!!!!! That's fk'n hilarious dude....

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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
ROFL!!!!! That's fk'n hilarious dude....

Yes it is, and it's true. He's got some major thing for Lou. If Byron comes back, I will lose my damn mind Magic. I don't want to hear one more losing postgame interview from him again. I barely made it through this season, one more and I will go crazy dude..

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I don't think they play Barnes max, and if they do, they can always trade him down the line. Think their window is wide open as long as they have their core of Curry, Green, Thompson and a few other less costly players. They can pretty much plug in bargain FA'S here and there in the upcoming years, and with J.West there evaluating talent, I think this team still has a good 4 to 5 year window....imo

They May not pay him the max but he is going to get offered it when 20 teams have the space to do so. That leaves the Warriors in a hole because Curry is going to fill up the majority of the cap space the following year. Obviously they have options but it means letting go of the quality role players.

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Yes it is, and it's true. He's got some major thing for Lou. If Byron comes back, I will lose my damn mind Magic. I don't want to hear one more losing postgame interview from him again. I barely made it through this season, one more and I will go crazy dude..

Yeah and he cannot hide behind Kobe anymore or use his farewell or on court adventures as an excuse. He is predominantly a veteran's coach and can only connect with them. He is too detached or disconnected from modern NBA needs and his mere presence is detrimental to rookie development. He lacks patience and is in denial/ delusional about his own coaching abilities..(or lack thereof).

However I'm really getting more and more concerned with the cuckoos who run the lakers. If the reports are true and Jeannie has her way, then I'm afraid we are not only screwed next season but for years to come. This woman has gone absolutely berserk and needs to be stopped ASAP or just bloody sell the franchise to some competent basketball mind or corpus of basketball minds. This mockery happening at the top is what scares me the most.

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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
Yeah and he cannot hide behind Kobe anymore or use his farewell or on court adventures as an excuse. He is predominantly a veteran's coach and can only connect with them. He is too disconnected from modern NBA needs and is detrimental to rookie development. He lacks patience and is delusional about his coaching abilities..(or lack thereof).

However I'm really getting more and more concerned with the cuckoos who run the lakers. If the reports are true and Jeannie has her way, then I'm afraid we are not only screwed next season but for years to come. This woman has gone absolutely berserk and needs to be stopped ASAP or just bloody sell the franchise to some competent basketball mind or corpus of basketball minds. This mockery happening at the top is what scares me the most.

I agree 100%. I have so many concerns about what the Lakers are going to do and how incompetent Jim Buss is. I am not as down on Jim as say the prick Steven A Smith is. I Have grown so sick and tired of him dissing Jim Buss and blaming him for the Lakers failures. I'm sure you've heard of that a****** and his views.

I remember Jim being the main reason for drafting Bynum, and of his trade to acquire Chris Paul for Gasol and Odom which fell through because of the commissioner. Jim Buss seems to get the blame, which he deserves none of. To me, Jim has done his best for this team. I would rather have Jim make the decisions than Jeanie. She is in love with Phil and is clouded. WTF dude?

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I agree 100%. I have so many concerns about what the Lakers are going to do and how incompetent Jim Buss is. I am not as down on Jim as say the prick Steven A Smith is. I Have grown so sick and tired of him dissing Jim Buss and blaming him for the Lakers failures. I'm sure you've heard of that a****** and his views. I remember Jim being the main reason for drafting Bynum, and of his trade to acquire Chris Paul for Gasol and Odom which fell through because of the commissioner. Jim Buss seems to get....


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