Dwight Howard is NOT a Winning Player

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Skyeword
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Critique of Dwight Howard by an honest sports caster. "Dwight is NOT a winning player."

His comments are exactly what I was saying 4 years ago before the Lakers traded for this selfish prima dona. He did it to Orlando and LA and now he's doing the same in Houston. He's all about attention, he's not about winning and Harden gets too much attention for his taste.

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IhatetheCeltics
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Frankly I'm just tired hearing about Howard. If he's not a winning player and we are saying good riddance, why do we continue to care? And I'm not singling you out Skyeword, but I hear this from Laker fans all the time. We should be saying "Dwight who?" But for some reason people still love talking about him. He's someone else's problem, that is just how I look at it.


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Orlando was the perfect situation for him and he was foolish to explore greener pastures. He was the " Center " of attraction out there both literally and figuratively. As things appear now, lakers could have been a better option for him with Kobe in his twilight and a young core to deal with...lol.


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IhatetheCeltics wrote:
Frankly I'm just tired hearing about Howard. If he's not a winning player and we are saying good riddance, why do we continue to care? And I'm not singling you out Skyeword, but I hear this from Laker fans all the time. We should be saying "Dwight who?" But for some reason people still love talking about him. He's someone else's problem, that is just how I look at it.

Me too, I was simply very happy to hear someone in the media call him out for his selfish nonsense and to point out how he has taken his brand of non winning to another city and they are thinking about dealing him too.


lakerfrommass
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Good find Skye, a few of us said the exact same things before the Howard trade.. Totally agree. I wish you would have expounded and further opined


Skyeword
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lakerfrommass wrote:
Good find Skye, a few of us said the exact same things before the Howard trade.. Totally agree. I wish you would have expounded and further opined

It's like Pepto Bismol for Lakers fans when we can complain about past mistakes! It also reveals the systemic Nature of the problems. I do consider this decision to be the beginning of the downward spire the Lakers have been in.


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Orlando was the perfect situation for him and he was foolish to explore greener pastures. He was the " Center " of attraction out there both literally and figuratively. As things appear now, lakers could have been a better option for him with Kobe in his twilight and a young core to deal with...lol.

Well if Dwight stayed, we wouldn't have the young core lol


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sevankb24 wrote:
Well if Dwight stayed, we wouldn't have the young core lol

Had Dwight never be brought in we would not have needed the young core!


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Skyeword wrote:
Had Dwight never be brought in we would not have needed the young core!

Lol.. Yup. We are now in damage control mode. The front office buffoons are now desperately trying to recover the multiple picks which were generously distributed as Haloween candy.


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Skyeword wrote:
Had Dwight never be brought in we would not have needed the young core!

Imo it goes further back to Jumbo's first foray into messing up the Lakers by taking a too young Bynum in the draft. That was the gradual beginning of the end.


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Imo it goes further back to Jumbo's first foray into messing up the Lakers by taking a too young Bynum in the draft. That was the gradual beginning of the end.

Boo, you know I'm not gonna agree with that one. He was a non factor for 3 years and then Phil put restrictions on him during which time he bulked up and then he acted out and then he made the all star team. IMO, it was Pau that had begun to whine about PT and Shannon Brown tapping his girlfriend and Fisher playing buddy ball and the hyper focusing upon Kobe that led to the initial decline in 2011/2012. Then the coaching issues, then Jerry Buss passing and than the idiot fringe took over and the rest is history. The actual plummeting, given that there were options available that could have resuscitated the team at that point, involved the choice to rebuild or to stay the course with Kobe. Bringing in Nash and Dwight and losing three first round draft picks, which including dumping the All Star Bynum, was the beginning of the end. Those that say his knees feel apart forget he played the entire final season in LA. He was hurt as a Sixer, a different context, than a Laker. That's how life works. Situations determine outcomes. Ask my ex-wife about that. Wink


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Skyeword wrote:
Boo, you know I'm not gonna agree with that one. He was a non factor for 3 years and then Phil put restrictions on him during which time he bulked up and then he acted out and then he made the all star team. IMO, it was Pau that had begun to whine about PT and Shannon Brown tapping his girlfriend and Fisher playing buddy ball and the hyper focusing upon Kobe that led to the initial decline in 2011/2012. Then the coaching issues, then Jerry Buss passing and than the idiot fringe took over and the rest is history. The actual plummeting, given that there were options available that could have resuscitated the team at that point, involved the choice to rebuild or to stay the course with Kobe. Bringing in Nash and Dwight and losing three first round draft picks, which including dumping the All Star Bynum, was the beginning of the end. Those that say his knees feel apart forget he played the entire final season in LA. He was hurt as a Sixer, a different context, than a Laker. That's how life works. Situations determine outcomes. Ask my ex-wife about that. Wink

Hahahahaa..love the ex wife reference. Well Bynum had knee surgeries in High School. The knees were a known issue before draft day, as he was very large and knock kneed. He had a bad attitude and was never a dedicated player. He was big so he just followed the money. Which in fairness is probably what any of us would have done. Even if he wanted to be a rocket scientist. Since being traded away he's been a 100% bust, so tho we'll never know, it would appear we dodged a bullet. Naturally on the subject of AB, possibly the most polarizing figure in LA history, we have to agree to disagree. And I also agree Phil (I forgot about that) played a role in the team's demise by not riding players with the hot hand, doing his own thing too much, sticking too hard to his old ways, not adapting etc. And when Tex moved on he was never the same, neither was the team. Imo Tex was the brains behind the triangle. Without him they weren't as good. Everyone says Phil got lucky with good players, I say he got lucky having Tex. A good team should be guided rather than over coached, esp these days, and he didn't develop incoming young players for crap. He was part of that "old guard" we keep talking about where big personality coaches like Red, Phil, Riles et al had total player control. Now that era is over, left over remnants of it show. Such as Vitti, Cupcake etc. You know what happened to the dinosaurs. Change / adapt or die. And thus until they catch up to the times, the Lakers are dying.


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Skyeword wrote:
It's like Pepto Bismol for Lakers fans when we can complain about past mistakes! It also reveals the systemic Nature of the problems. I do consider this decision to be the beginning of the downward spire the Lakers have been in.

That's my issue with Kupcake. I think he gets so caught up in big names that he refuses to look at other aspects of a player's game. I still don't believe that our GM knows how to put together a team and the biggest move that ownership can make is giving him his pink slip. We need a guy who has a vision for what he wants his team to look like. Mitch is acting as if he's playing pickup ball no he picks whoever.


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