Wes Johnson On Lakers Tenure: 'Nobody Was Playing Together'

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IRVINE � Wes Johnson's zip code didn't change, and neither did the location of the arena. He certainly won't have any trouble navigating the streets around Staples Center. What has changed, besides the uniform, is Johnson's....


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"You would go out there and want to play the right way, but everyone wanted to prove themselves," Said the guy who played with his Nth number of teams.


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Well no ****. Everyone was out there with one year contracts trying to prove their individual games for their next contract. Whether it was with LA or another team. That's what happens when you are loaded with injuries and countless mixtures of different line ups. How do you expect to consistently play together with every game being different rotations? Wes really has to think these types of things through.


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AChad92 wrote:
Well no ****. Everyone was out there with one year contracts trying to prove their individual games for their next contract. Whether it was with LA or another team. That's what happens when you are loaded with injuries and countless mixtures of different line ups. How do you expect to consistently play together with every game being different rotations? Wes really has to think these types of things through.

Absolutely. Way to speak on it.


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"You are not gonna believe how soft Wes Johnson is," as Kevin Ding put it last year, which means that he does not desire to define his own role. I think he is speaking about the Lakers culture which is very individualistic though Wes is not this. Instead, he wants to be told what to do and that's what's gonna happen with the Clippers. The Lakers did not have leadership last season so generally speaking, I suspect nobody knew what to do. The Coach was new and feigning the pursuit of victories and the PG's were young and ill-defined as well the injury thing. Wes is a role player who was not given a clear role! When he says that 'nobody knew what was going on', I think he was referring to himself. Chris Paul will be happy to tell him what brand of toothpaste to use.


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You don't say, Wes...


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Skyeword wrote:
"You are not gonna believe how soft Wes Johnson is," as Kevin Ding put it last year, which means that he does not desire to define his own role. I think he is speaking about the Lakers culture which is very individualistic though Wes is not this. Instead, he wants to be told what to do, and that's what's gonna happen with the Clippers. The Lakers did not have leadership last season so generally speaking, I suspect nobody did knew what to do. The Coach was new and feigning the pursuit of victories and the PG's were young and ill defined as well the injury thing. Wes is a role player who was not given a clear role! When he says, that nobody knew what was going on, I think he was referring to himself. Chris Paul will be happy to tell him what brand of toothpaste to use.

Well put. Hopefully Byron Scott and the staff with put more focus on defining roles for players this season, and getting everyone to play together with trust, even in crunch time.


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Nicely stated, Skyeword. He can't figure it out on his own out there so his game depends on his leaders telling him what to do. I mean, i guess it's not a terrible thing that he's willing to do whatever he's told, but damn man grow a back bone and figure **** out for yourself. Insert YOURSELF into the game instead of depending on what others say. Clips don't have time to be babysitting this dude.


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Read Kevin Ding's article on Wes Johnson and it becomes clear how much of an underachiever he is. I don't understand how you average around 30 mins a game under D'Antoni and don't take advantage of it. If he had put work in and was hellbent on being more than mediocre, he wouldn't be playing for minimum contracts. But it's like the guy is content just floating around. Seriously, with his athleticism, if he developed into a good defender and a reliable outside shooter, he would be getting paid the midlevel at 5+ a year.


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IhatetheCeltics wrote:
Read Kevin Ding's article on Wes Johnson and it becomes clear how much of an underachiever he is. I don't understand how you average around 30 mins a game under D'Antoni and don't take advantage of it. If he had put work in and was hellbent on being more than mediocre, he wouldn't be playing for minimum contracts. But it's like the guy is content just floating around. Seriously, with his athleticism, if he developed into a good defender and a reliable outside shooter, he would be getting paid the midlevel at 5+ a year.

Thinking about this, honestly if I had the athleticism he had and were in the NBA, I'm not so sure I'd push myself to be the best that I could be. I'd like to think I would but most likely I'd probably be happy getting the couple of million bucks a year he gets doing pretty much the most minimal work required. I think most people would and that's what separates the bad, good, great, and legendary players of sports. But getting a couple of million bucks for basically doing nothing? Not a bad gig if you ask me. If he's happy, he's happy.


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I agree OC, nothing wrong with being soft. I suspect he's very kind and thoughtful person too. People whom are driven are more fun to watch but they have something to prove and tend to treat people poorly along the way. I have zero expectations of Wes and if he's content with Wes, I'm content with Wes. 'More' is not always better!


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well... He has said that he's never played for a winning team... if he is a true role player we will see his worth. if he's garbage (still) so long.. I hope he is not though.


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well... He has said that he's never played for a winning team... if he is a true role player we will see his worth. if he's garbage (still) so long.. I hope he is not though.

So Wes is the reason the Lakers have been terrible? Thanks for clarifying and appreciate you all taking him off the Lakers back.


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OCLakerfan8 wrote:
Thinking about this, honestly if I had the athleticism he had and were in the NBA, I'm not so sure I'd push myself to be the best that I could be. I'd like to think I would but most likely I'd probably be happy getting the couple of million bucks a year he gets doing pretty much the most minimal work required. I think most people would and that's what separates the bad, good, great, and legendary players of sports. But getting a couple of million bucks for basically doing nothing? Not a bad gig if you ask me. If he's happy, he's happy.

Getting a couple million for doing nothing may not sound bad, but it's that mindset that also leads to guys being out of the league and being irrelevant. And I have a feeling that's where Johnson is headed. You can only float by on so many teams before GMs see you for what you are.


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I don't understand all the hate Wes Johnson is getting for these comments. He's not wrong. It's not like he brought this topic up himself. I'm sure he was asked questions about his times with the Lakers so he answered. Nothing wrong with what he said. I think he was forced into a bigger role with the Lakers due to the lack of talent as well as injuries.


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Wes's statements aren't a shocker, if you watched the games last year you could see it first hand. The players seemed disorganized and that had to come down from the coaching staff. Even Kobe's playing time seemed dysfunctional, I thought Coach Scott was going to have a talk with Kobe to get his buy in on resting. Maybe he was to busy turning the team into a defensive juggernaut. I'm sure the coaching staff is probably wondering whether or not to start Steve Nash at point guard this year!


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TheInfamous55 wrote:
"You would go out there and want to play the right way, but everyone wanted to prove themselves," Said the guy who played with his Nth number of teams.
Wes Johnson has never been a game changer. He will never be an elite player, and up to this day the best he has ever done is to fill the role of a career journeyman. I never understood this move by the Clippers. Still, I don't think anyone in the Clippers fan base expects him to be anything more than a role player who is going to fill in to keep Paul Pierce fresh for the playoffs.

These types of stories are just cannon fodder for the fan base, and each team's fans love it when the former-Laker or former-Clipper bad mouths his ex team. It's the nature of the game. Matt Barnes bad mouthed the Lakers when he joined the Clippers, Nick Young bad mouthed the Clippers when he became a Laker, and the fans on each side ate up the stories.


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Skyeword wrote:
I agree OC, nothing wrong with being soft. I suspect he's very kind and thoughtful person too. People whom are driven are more fun to watch but they have something to prove and tend to treat people poorly along the way. I have zero expectations of Wes and if he's content with Wes, I'm content with Wes. 'More' is not always better!

Yup. Maybe he's reached his happy place in life. What you see is what you get. Nothing more. Nothing wrong with that I guess.


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IhatetheCeltics wrote:
Getting a couple million for doing nothing may not sound bad, but it's that mindset that also leads to guys being out of the league and being irrelevant. And I have a feeling that's where Johnson is headed. You can only float by on so many teams before GMs see you for what you are.

At the same time his numbers have been pretty consistent throughout the years. At least he isn't a contract year player and GMs know what they're getting. Again I ain't saying this is the best career move for an NBA player but if he's happy with being a role player then good for him. Like Skyeword says, sometimes more is not better.

Honestly I'd rather have a role player like Wes on my team versus an under-talented overly ambitious role player like say, Jordan Farmar.


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Well put. Hopefully Byron Scott and the staff with put more focus on defining roles for players this season, and getting everyone to play together with trust, even in crunch time.

Role #1; Get Kobe the ball.

Role #2; Stand in the corners and create an iso for Kobe

If you think Scott has the balls to get Kobe to do anything different you need to take your blinkers off.


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Just like Lamar. So much potential but also, so much passiveness.


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As one of the writers said on Lakers nation, " thank you Wes, your play here helped get us Randle and Russell ". I'd just like to 2nd that!!! Lol


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kkennon1 wrote:
As one of the writers said on Lakers nation, " thank you Wes, your play here helped get us Randle and Russell ". I'd just like to 2nd that!!! Lol

Lmaoo for real though. The only thing to thank him for.


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