Lakers Plan Staff Move To Beef Up Analytics Operation

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BY BILL ORAM / STAFF WRITER

LAS VEGAS � Lakers executives have long defended their use of advanced statistics, disputing the public perception that the 16-time NBA champions are behind the times.

The organization, however, is taking steps to strengthen the analytics side of things, with plans to create a position for a staff member to facilitate better communication between the basketball staff and those crunching the numbers.

Assistant coach and advance scout Clay Moser is expected to transition from the bench to the front office in a sort of liaison position, which previously did not exist within the organization.

The responsibilities of the role have been among those heaped upon assistant coach Mark Madsen. The plan with Moser, however, is to facilitate a pipeline of ideas with a basketball person in the front office.

Moser has been with the Lakers since 2011, when Mike Brown hired him as an advance scout. Before that, he was an assistant coach for the D-Fenders and Reno Bighorns of the Development League, as well as an advance scout for Cleveland, Orlando, Sacramento and Golden State.

Team officials felt that statistical analysis got lost in translation between the two branches of the organization, with statistics employees sometimes failing to understand the practical complications of making certain adjustments based on numbers, and the coaches not appreciating the value of the stats.

In February, ESPN.com ranked the Lakers 113th out of 122 professional sports franchises for their use of analytics, and grouped the organization among just three "nonbelievers" league-wide, along with the Brooklyn Nets and New York Knicks.

Around that time the website published a story with a headline that asked, "Are the Lakers stuck in the stone age?"

ESPN reported that the Lakers employed six full-time analytics staffers, including four who focused on data from the in-arena SportVU cameras.

The external view of the Lakers analytics operation was only made worse when free agent LaMarcus Aldridge was reportedly underwhelmed by the Lakers' basketball presentation, and subsequently wowed by Houston's use of analytics in its pitch.

Coach Byron Scott has been especially resistant to analytics.

Madsen provided Scott with a weekly breakdown of advanced statistics, but in the middle of last season Scott said those numbers had never influenced a basketball decision.

He said he listens to the information when its brought to him, but that he is "still just old school."

The disconnect became apparent in February when Mitch Kupchak told KSPN/710 that analytics are "of most use to a coaching staff." Scott, however, said he had no use for them.

"I think we've got a few guys who believe in them," he said. "I'm not one of them."

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/oper ... -plan.html

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Couldn't hurt....Cool.

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So this would be the equivalent of hiring Scott a personal barber, absolutely no use for one. I think that is what separates pop from every other coach in the league, his willingness to evolve his system as the league has changed.

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Scott worries me tho...

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I always try to find ways to support my Lakers.

But between the Princeton offense and Scott's lack of analytics....

I'm hopping on the FIRE BYRON SCOTT bandwagon!!!!!!!!

tmike23
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The beginning of the end for the B-Scott era...

God I hope they bring in Jerry West and get rid of Jim Buss. it never really came to my attention as to why we didn't do that from the get go until Stephen A. suggested it on Firist Take. Pay the man whatever and have him come here and change the culture up like he once did. We have no personalities in the front office that are respectable. Bringing him in as well as Magic will change things up completely. What's the point of sharing the Laker lure with free agents if we have no one in a meeting who represents what it means to be a Laker?I know they bought in James Worthy in these past meetings but he's not a big enough personality to convince free agents to come here.

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tmike23 wrote:
The beginning of the end for the B-Scott era...

God I hope they bring in Jerry West and get rid of Jim Buss. it never really came to my attention as to why we didn't do that from the get go until Stephen A. suggested it on Firist Take. Pay the man whatever and have him come here and change the culture up like he once did. We have no personalities in the front office that are respectable. Bringing him in as well as Magic will change things up completely. What's the point of sharing the Laker lure with free agents if we have no one in a meeting who represents what it means to be a Laker?I know they bought in James Worthy in these past meetings but he's not a big enough personality to convince free agents to come here.

Jerry West would not come back to the Lakers. His son Ryan is in the FO and is supposed to be getting groomed to eventually take Mitch's place. So if Jerry feels him coming back to LA will hinder his sons chances of advancing then I don't see him coming. However, if Ryan was to be moved into the GM role, then MAYBE I could see Jerry coming on board as a senior adviser but not as president.

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LALA-LandShow24 wrote:
Jerry West would not come back to the Lakers. His son Ryan is in the FO and is supposed to be getting groomed to eventually take Mitch's place. So if Jerry feels him coming back to LA will hinder his sons chances of advancing then I don't see him coming. However, if Ryan was to be moved into the GM role, then MAYBE I could see Jerry coming on board as a senior adviser but not as president.

I would prefer that he take over Jim Buss's position and there's no indication as to when Mitch is going to call it quits so it doesn't really affect Ryan West whatsoever. Why would Jerry West coming back hinder his son's chances of being the GM? If anything, it'll give Ryan West a bigger chance of being the GM if Jerry feels like he's the right man for the job. Even if Jerry West took the president of basketball operations position, he'll call the shots as to whether or not Ryan West moves up the totem pole or not. The GM reports to the President of BO, not the other way around.

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It's stats or die for coach Scott. It would be a hard thing to institute to an old school and stubborn coach and we all can't help but to ponder who the replacement would be. I can't think of none better available than Calipari. But for now, Scott is a good rookie coach to guards. Seeing him let go will be another PR hit to the organization that the public is quietly willing to endure.

Tell ya what though. Y'all know my main wish for this organization. And that is to move far away from anything Showtime era. To me that's a ghost that will haunt this organization if they keep holding on to it so tight.

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TheInfamous55 wrote:
It's stats or die for coach Scott. It would be a hard thing to institute to an old school and stubborn coach and we all can't help but to ponder who the replacement would be. I can't think of none better available than Calipari. But for now, Scott is a good rookie coach to guards. Seeing him let go will be another PR hit to the organization that the public is quietly willing to endure.

Tell ya what though. Y'all know my main wish for this organization. And that is to move far away from anything Showtime era. To me that's a ghost that will haunt this organization if they keep holding on to it so tight.

I don't think you have to move away from it completely. It doesn't have to be emphasized but to have those figures around doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt for the Spurs to keep David Robinson around. It doesn't hurt for the Knicks to have Walt Frazier around. I think players like the fact that the organization has some legend to it. However, using that as the sole reason as to why free agents certainly isn't the way to go about it. You have to go along with the times and although it's great to show off the legends that the franchise's produced, analytics and ways in which players know they can win and get better are the keys to luring top tier free agents.

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tmike23 wrote:
I don't think you have to move away from it completely. It doesn't have to be emphasized but to have those figures around doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt for the Spurs to keep David Robinson around. It doesn't hurt for the Knicks to have Walt Frazier around. I think players like the fact that the organization has some legend to it. However, using that as the sole reason as to why free agents certainly isn't the way to go about it. You have to go along with the times and although it's great to show off the legends that the franchise's produced, analytics and ways in which players know they can win and get better are the keys to luring top tier free agents.

Of course I didn't mean that we put all the Laker legends in a drawer and forget about them. But it's become a song that's played itself out. To the point that it's mocked. Personally I'm tired of hearing "The Laker Way" and "Showtime Is Back!" and to me it is a bit "Stone Aged". On a marketing perspective, it's obsolete. From a free agent standpoint, "who cares who Grampa's team is?"

My premise of my statement come from the fact that Jeanie and Jimbo are holding too long to what was Dr Buss's brainchild. And with that I feel they can never make strides forward if their too attached to their past.

So along with the new investment of analytics the Lakers have taken. I am hoping that they take a strong look at changing their brand for the better (of course).

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Kings just fired Dean Oliver. Time to hire him now, Buss family!

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LakerFan4Life wrote:
Kings just fired Dean Oliver. Time to hire him now, Buss family!

Yes, please!


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