Jordan Clarkson - "My Rookie Year"

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lakersfanjeff
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JORDAN CLARKSON

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For the majority of my rookie year, I had to lug around a fake baby doll in a pink stroller whenever I was entering and leaving Staples Center. On Christmas Day, in front of a national TV audience, I made the "Not Top 10" on SportsCenter for missing a wide-open layup. Day in and day out at practice, I had to defend Kobe Bryant and received firsthand tutoring.

What I'm saying is, it was a pretty entertaining first year in the league.

Just over a year ago, I was drafted in the second round, 46th overall, by the Lakers. My reaction: Time to prove myself.

Right after that, the Kobe clinic started. It was before the preseason and all the guys were at the gym playing pick-up - just the players. Kobe comes in. Everyone's choosing their matchups and no one picked up Kobe. Surprise, surprise, right? I was the only one left.

Link has the full article.

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/jordan ... ersTribune

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Great read !

This one also, Madsen praises his work ethic :

http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/150708_c ... mer?cid=FB

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Something I Have meaning to bring up lately but never got around to doing it. Since this thread was made, I guess I should bring it up now.

There are some Laker fans, maybe even a larger portion that say that Clarkson is a good player and will probably get better but doesn't have the potential to be great like how Russell and Randle are projected. Why is that? Is it because he was drafted late in the 2nd round? What if he was a lottery pick, even a late one at that. Would pretty much most of our fan base say that Clarkson has the potential for greatness if he was a lottery pick? The guy has the tools to be great. If you ask me, the Lakers basically got 3 lottery players the past 2 drafts. From all the lottery picks in the 2014 draft, only a handful are better than JC as of right now.

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sevankb24 wrote:
Something I Have meaning to bring up lately but never got around to doing it. Since this thread was made, I guess I should bring it up now.

There are some Laker fans, maybe even a larger portion that say that Clarkson is a good player and will probably get better but doesn't have the potential to be great like how Russell and Randle are projected. Why is that? Is it because he was drafted late in the 2nd round? What if he was a lottery pick, even a late one at that. Would pretty much most of our fan base say that Clarkson has the potential for greatness if he was a lottery pick? The guy has the tools to be great. If you ask me, the Lakers basically got 3 lottery players the past 2 drafts. From all the lottery picks in the 2014 draft, only a handful are better than JC as of right now.

With all the bad things that went on with the Lakers these past two seasons I think people are just trying to be cautiously optimistic with Jordan. It's an emotional defense mechanism. I really like the kid. He has the size, the athleticism. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders and a good work ethic too. If he works hard, keeps working hard, and doesn't settle, the sky's the limit.

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respect!

definitely, a steal in the 2014 draft.

the way he looks at things, he is definitely a hard worker and hungry for success. plus, he knows and realized, by now, what the Lakers Brand is all about. the fan base is ridiculous even on a shameful season.

Lakers, Represent! Smile

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It was a good read indeed. It's telling that group was relatively happy for having such a bad season. It's cool that it was a tight knit group and all, but it doesn't seem like there was a guy on the team that was all about winning. You need the guys that get mad at you for making a bad play, a guy that barks, a guy that pushes. Yeah those guys make it uncomfortable for everyone, but in the end you need a guy like that to be great. Magic Johnson was that guy. Larry Bird was that guy. Michael Jordan was that guy. They were all smiles in front of the camera --maybe not Larry-- but I've read they were the biggest a-holes on the court, in practice, constantly pushing their teammates, getting on them. They were there to win, not be everyone's best friend. I wonder which one of our three kids will be the guy that wants to win games so badly they'll make people uncomfortable. Greatness doesn't come by giving a guy a cookie after every good play.

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sevankb24 wrote:
Something I Have meaning to bring up lately but never got around to doing it. Since this thread was made, I guess I should bring it up now.

There are some Laker fans, maybe even a larger portion that say that Clarkson is a good player and will probably get better but doesn't have the potential to be great like how Russell and Randle are projected. Why is that? Is it because he was drafted late in the 2nd round? What if he was a lottery pick, even a late one at that. Would pretty much most of our fan base say that Clarkson has the potential for greatness if he was a lottery pick? The guy has the tools to be great. If you ask me, the Lakers basically got 3 lottery players the past 2 drafts. From all the lottery picks in the 2014 draft, only a handful are better than JC as of right now.

Perception is everything bro. I guess most people trust lame articles, draft position, and school prestige rather than their own eyes. It's easier to admit you were wrong with a large group of people while most won't go out on a limb for a second rounder, in fear of being off and not having links to show they weren't the only ones. A defense mechanism like OC said..

I'll say it.. I think Jordan will be a star. He has the intangibles and the physicals. He seems to really be thriving in this Laker brand they are rebuilding. If he went to Kansas and was properly taken before Elfrid Payton, people would be on the hype train.

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LakerBloodNoDoubt wrote:
Perception is everything bro. I guess most people trust lame articles, draft position, and school prestige rather than their own eyes. It's easier to admit you were wrong with a large group of people while most won't go out on a limb for a second rounder, in fear of being off and not having links to show they weren't the only ones. A defense mechanism like OC said..

I'll say it.. I think Jordan will be a star. He has the intangibles and the physicals. He seems to really be thriving in this Laker brand they are rebuilding. If he went to Kansas and was properly taken before Elfrid Payton, people would be on the hype train.

He could be very good, but I don't see him being a star. And I'm not basing it on draft position or articles, I just going by eye test. Look at Wiggins, Lillard, Curry, LBJ,Westbrook, Durant. And where they were at talent wise at same stage. Those are stars or future stars to me. Don't see Clarkson on that level. But I see him becoming very good player, with great work ethic. I guess some players just have that it factor, where you see their talent is already above most, just need to develop a bit. Clarkson looked good last season on bad team, would he have gotten playing time on playoff team, probably not.

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Right after that, the Kobe clinic started. It was before the preseason and all the guys were at the gym playing pick-up - just the players. Kobe comes in. Everyone's choosing their matchups and no one picked up Kobe. Surprise, surprise, right? I was the only one left.

I can just see it now, teams are picked, Kobe looks at everyone, ok I got Sacre, any one got a problem with that? lol

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kkennon1 wrote:
He could be very good, but I don't see him being a star. And I'm not basing it on draft position or articles, I just going by eye test. Look at Wiggins, Lillard, Curry, LBJ,Westbrook, Durant. And where they were at talent wise at same stage. Those are stars or future stars to me. Don't see Clarkson on that level. But I see him becoming very good player, with great work ethic. I guess some players just have that it factor, where you see their talent is already above most, just need to develop a bit. Clarkson looked good last season on bad team, would he have gotten playing time on playoff team, probably not.

My thoughts are very similar to yours. Clarkson showed nice potential but I didn't see him as some allstar for years to come. I'm not saying that won't happen but the eye test showed me a nice player, he likes to push the tempo, he's aggressive, plays D and the main thing is he seems to be coachable. Personally I'm not sold on him as a point guard. His passes seem to be more reactionary than anticipatory. When I saw his passes when he started to get better with it, they were still to cutting big men like Black when a guy stepped over. That's good playmaking but it's not the same as a great passer who knows where everyone is on the floor. When I saw A Russell passing video, I saw a kid who knew who were his shooters a kid who started slowing up on a break so he can let his guys catch up and he delivered the ball on time. This is something Magic did, he and Chick Hearns talked about delivering passes so a big guy can take two steps and dunk it. Great passers anticipate a play going a certain way and the ball is passed before the guy even reaches the spot. This is what I liked about Kendall Marshall. His jumpshot and athleticism may have been suspect but I really enjoyed the passes to get people the ball. Russell can score so it will be really fun to watch.

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He played top 5 of last seasons draft class...Funny i only hear about him playing well on a bad team while that same thing isn't used for the players he is compared against. Minnesota was a good team? Wiggins put up nice #s and played well on a poor team but that isn't dismissed like Jordan's play was with the Lakers.

I get it, wait and see....but at the very least Clarkson is going to be a heck of a back court mate with Russell for years to come. He has everything he needs to have to be an all star type G. Size, range, speed, hops....if his jumper continues to improve he will be near unguard-able due to his ability to blow past people.

The Lakers hit a home run with this guy. He is ultra talented.

I also loved his comments about Kobe...really goes to show how the guys he plays with see him vs how haters do or the media.

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RustyRay wrote:
He played top 5 of last seasons draft class...Funny i only hear about him playing well on a bad team while that same thing isn't used for the players he is compared against. Minnesota was a good team? Wiggins put up nice #s and played well on a poor team but that isn't dismissed like Jordan's play was with the Lakers.

I get it, wait and see....but at the very least Clarkson is going to be a heck of a back court mate with Russell for years to come. He has everything he needs to have to be an all star type G. Size, range, speed, hops....if his jumper continues to improve he will be near unguard-able due to his ability to blow past people.

The Lakers hit a home run with this guy. He is ultra talented.

I also loved his comments about Kobe...really goes to show how the guys he plays with see him vs how haters do or the media.

Agree Wiggins played on bad team too, but if you ask every team in NBA , who'd they draft 1st, everyone of them would take Wiggins over Clarkson. Clarkson should become very good player, Wiggins could become superstar player. That's the difference I see.

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RustyRay wrote:
He played top 5 of last seasons draft class...Funny i only hear about him playing well on a bad team while that same thing isn't used for the players he is compared against. Minnesota was a good team? Wiggins put up nice #s and played well on a poor team but that isn't dismissed like Jordan's play was with the Lakers.

I get it, wait and see....but at the very least Clarkson is going to be a heck of a back court mate with Russell for years to come. He has everything he needs to have to be an all star type G. Size, range, speed, hops....if his jumper continues to improve he will be near unguard-able due to his ability to blow past people.

The Lakers hit a home run with this guy. He is ultra talented.

I also loved his comments about Kobe...really goes to show how the guys he plays with see him vs how haters do or the media.

Well a lot of the top talent suffered season ending injuries, Parker, Embiid, and Randle. Aaaron Gordon missed half the season. I am not taking anything away from Clarkson though, the took his chance and really proved a point that he belongs in the league. So far he is looking like the steal of the draft.

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kkennon1 wrote:
Agree Wiggins played on bad team too, but if you ask every team in NBA , who'd they draft 1st, everyone of them would take Wiggins over Clarkson. Clarkson should become very good player, Wiggins could become superstar player. That's the difference I see.

I'm not downplaying Wiggins. He has a ton of potential and like you I could see him being a star. I think Clarkson showed a ton of talent as well and the ability to be a potential star as well.

I am saying the comparison while dismissing how well JC played because of his team while WIggins did the same thing on a worse team doesn't make sense to me.

Clarkson put up good #s period. Wiggins put up good #s period. Clarkson was 1st team all rookie and it just seems he gets his play dismissed because the lakers were a bad team.

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sevankb24 wrote:
Something I Have meaning to bring up lately but never got around to doing it. Since this thread was made, I guess I should bring it up now.

There are some Laker fans, maybe even a larger portion that say that Clarkson is a good player and will probably get better but doesn't have the potential to be great like how Russell and Randle are projected. Why is that? Is it because he was drafted late in the 2nd round? What if he was a lottery pick, even a late one at that. Would pretty much most of our fan base say that Clarkson has the potential for greatness if he was a lottery pick? The guy has the tools to be great. If you ask me, the Lakers basically got 3 lottery players the past 2 drafts. From all the lottery picks in the 2014 draft, only a handful are better than JC as of right now.

Jordan had a very close friend that passed during his senior year and he vanished the second half of the season. Little is said about this. He was projected to go top ten prior to that....

I think the Lakers are gonna surprise people this season. Randle is James Worthyish and perhaps a bit better. I think T. Black is gonna be spectacular as well. If the Lakers can bring in a solid SF, they will be more than competitive this year. Jordan and D'Angelo I feel are gonna be on par with the best backcourts sooner than later. They are both incredibly confident. Kobe at the three I feel is the right move so these two can develop together from the get go.

Great write up by Jordan... His comments about Swaggy and Boozer remind me how insensitive Mitch is regarding team chemistry.

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RustyRay wrote:
I'm not downplaying Wiggins. He has a ton of potential and like you I could see him being a star. I think Clarkson showed a ton of talent as well and the ability to be a potential star as well.

I am saying the comparison while dismissing how well JC played because of his team while WIggins did the same thing on a worse team doesn't make sense to me.

Clarkson put up good #s period. Wiggins put up good #s period. Clarkson was 1st team all rookie and it just seems he gets his play dismissed because the lakers were a bad team.

Agree with everything you said, but I still stand by my opinion that Clarkson will be very good player, maybe make some all star games, and Wiggins will be possibly superstar hall of fame player. Don't see Clarkson ceiling that high. But if I'm wrong, that's even better for lakers.

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I don't see Clarkson as being a future superstar either, but I could definitely be wrong. The kid works hard and it shows. If he continues to really work on his game, he could be a vital part of the Lakers future. The thing is, we don't necessarily need him to be a superstar. If he can be great in his own right, I'll be plenty satisfied. If he can be the Klay Thompson to Russell's Steph Curry or Bradley Beal to Russell's John Wall, that'd be fantastic. That is of course if Russell reaches his potential also.

To be honest, I don't care which one of them, whether Russell or Clarkson, is Curry.Wall and which one is Klay/Beal. As long as they both develop into a tandem much like the ones in GS or Washington, then I'll be ecstatic.


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