Jimmy Butler Wants To Sign A One-Year Deal With L.A.

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Free agency is set to officially begin on July 1 and the Los Angeles Lakers are looking to make a major impact as they have the salary cap space to give at least one player a maximum contract. General Manager Mitch Kupchak has indicated that he intends to focus on the frontcourt, but there may be a wing player looking to come to Los Angeles.

According to Mark Medina of the Los Angeles Daily News, Jimmy Butler is hoping for a one-year contract with the Lakers, though the Bulls are expected to match any offer he receives:

Lastly, Chicago forward Jimmy Butler hopes to take his talents elsewhere and take advantage of the new television deal after his career year coincided with Tom Thibodeau's firing and Derrick Rose's chemistry issues. Although Butler wants to sign a one-year deal with the Lakers, according to a league source familiar with his thinking, the Bulls are expected to match any offer for the restricted free agent.

This would be a major acquisition for the Lakers if they are able to pull it off. While he isn't a big man, Butler would fill a major need at the small forward position. Last season, Butler posted career-highs in points, rebounds, assists, and field goal percentage while making his first All-Star team and winning the NBA's Most Improved Player award.

The good thing about possibly signing Butler is that his maximum deal is only in the $15 million range which would leave the Lakers enough room to pursue a mid-level center such as Robin Lopez or Kosta Koufos if they wanted.

As was noted in the report, however, the Bulls do intend to match any offers for Butler and that may scare off the Lakers as their cap space would be taken up for 72 hours while the Bulls decide to match. The best alternative for the Lakers could be Butler signing a one-year qualifying offer with the Bulls in order to hit unrestricted free agency next summer.

Source: http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-rumors-jimmy-butler-wants-to-sign-a -one-year-deal-with-l-a/2015/06/28/

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Only two ways of getting Jimmy,

1) Sign and trade for him

2) Let him sign a 1 year deal with the Bulls, and we grab him next year.

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There's a lot of info that Eric Pincus has been tweeting right now about this Butler's situation. Basically if the Bulls tender him a max qualifying offer, any team that wants to offer him a contract can't offer him less than a 3 year deal. As we all know Butler wants a one or two year deal so he can cash in on the cap jump. The thing is even if the Bulls were to offer him the max qualifying offer, he can choose to sign the regular qualifying offer which pays him $4.4 million for this upcoming year. He then will be an UFA next offseason. The thing is the difference between that and the 5 year $90 million dollar max offer the Bulls will probably offer him is $85.6 million. So essentially that's how big of a risk it is for him to just take the regular qualifying offer. However, he did do it this past year and it worked out for him, but he didn't risk anywhere near the amount of money he'll risk this time around.

The deadline for him to accept the max qualifying offer (if it's offered by the Bulls) or the regular qualifying offer is June 30th I believe. So we'll know in a couple of days what he does. You'd have to think though that if he takes the regular qualifying offer, it'd be great for the Lakers, but he'd be one crazy bastard hahaha.

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Would you guys offer Clarkson as an 'incentive' for them to not match the offer?

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If Butler takes the one year QO, we can expect him to have not as impressive of a stat line next season. Probably less drives to the paint and less hustle plays. You can bet your life savings that he's gonna be the most careful person on the face of the Earth lol. If this is the case, I hope the front office is smart enough to realize that Butler took a step back and that they will still give him the max because someone definitely will.

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AChad92 wrote:
Would you guys offer Clarkson as an 'incentive' for them to not match the offer?

I would do that. As much as I like Clarkson, he'll never be as good as Butler. Plus Butler is only 2 years older than him. He still has 8-10 good year left.

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If Butler takes the one year QO, we can expect him to have not as impressive of a stat line next season. Probably less drives to the paint and less hustle plays. You can bet your life savings that he's gonna be the most careful person on the face of the Earth lol. If this is the case, I hope the front office is smart enough to realize that Butler took a step back and that they will still give him the max because someone definitely will.

Plus Thibs isn't their coach anymore, so he won't be run into the ground. If I were Butler, I'd sign the regular QO, park it behind the 3pt. line and just wait for passes by D. Rose, maybe take a few games off for "rest", and trot my way to L.A. next offseason.

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As long as we still have a chance at Durant I'm all for it.

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Plus Thibs isn't their coach anymore, so he won't be run into the ground. If I were Butler, I'd sign the regular QO, park it behind the 3pt. line and just wait for passes by D. Rose, maybe take a few games off for "rest", and trot my way to L.A. next offseason.

Heres to hoping that the Bulls either get a lot of talent this offseason so they won't need Butler to contribute as much or that they get significantly worse so Butler doesn't play an extra 2-3 rounds worth of games in the playoffs. However, if Butler takes his QO, it pretty much spells out that he is leaving and Chicago will entertain offers for him all season.

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AChad92 wrote:
Would you guys offer Clarkson as an 'incentive' for them to not match the offer?

ABSOLUTELY! now that we have Russell.. If we didn't then no.. But he could tell them hey I don't want to play here I refuse to suit up but in that case, they would have to do a sign and trade and I don't think they would take Clarkson straight up. Hell, give em Kobe too reunite him with Gasol and we can meet them in the finals LOL. Wouldn't be a bad idea to be honest free a lot of space and we could sign Aldridge as well. I would trade Kobe for Butler. I really want Kobe to retire a Laker he deserves it but I'm all for making the team better. Plus, Kobe would still have a good shot at a ring with a healthy arose and a Gasol we once had, not the Gasol we first had

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Gmoney818 wrote:
ABSOLUTELY! now that we have Russell.. If we didn't then no.. But he could tell them hey I don't want to play here I refuse to suit up but in that case, they would have to do a sign and trade and I don't think they would take Clarkson straight up. Hell, give em Kobe too reunite him with Gasol and we can meet them in the finals LOL. Wouldn't be a bad idea to be honest free a lot of space and we could sign Aldridge as well. I would trade Kobe for Butler. I really want Kobe to retire a Laker he deserves it but I'm all for making the team better. Plus, Kobe would still have a good shot at a ring with a healthy arose and a Gasol we once had, not the Gasol we first had

I was with you until you said trade Kobe.... Kobe made so much money for this franchise that's the ONLY reason they signed him to that big contract and plus people come just to watch a living Legend that still plays... in the end it's all about business.

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AChad92 wrote:
Would you guys offer Clarkson as an 'incentive' for them to not match the offer?

Absolutely. Especially since we drafted a PG. Clarkson isn't the future of the franchise. The FO made that clear on draft night.

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I want him to sign the qualifying offer for 4.4 million, then voice his displeasure with the team as ND his intentions on leaving next summer. Maybe we can give the bulls clarkson, young and a couple picks like one first and one second. I think that's fair. Could you imagine, butler aldridge cousins?

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24All_DAY wrote:
I want him to sign the qualifying offer for 4.4 million, then voice his displeasure with the team as ND his intentions on leaving next summer. Maybe we can give the bulls clarkson, young and a couple picks like one first and one second. I think that's fair. Could you imagine, butler aldridge cousins?

I'd be reluctant to give them Clarkson, especially when we can get Butler next year. We are NOT getting Cousins, Vlade doesn't want to trade him, and if he did he would demand Russell,Clarkson, and Randle, that is too much for 1 player, and i'm certain that the Lakers don't want to trade them either (especially Russell). I seriously doubt they would just take Randle and Clarkson when they can get better offers from the Celtics and Nuggets.

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Many of you are not realistically thinking about the Bulls situation in this whole thing, even if Butler says I will not show up to practice if I'm on the team next year. Bulls have all the leverage and can stop him from playing anywhere else for at least 1 year. With that being said why would the Bulls let him walk. They are probably praying that the Lakers offer him 2/3 year deal so they can match it and lock him, up.

At this point the Bulls would have a great trading chip and could get some real value back for him. THE BULLS WILL NOT JUST LET HIM WALK TO ANY TEAM THIS YEAR. If Butler truly wants to pick his team, he has to play one more year for the Bulls and become a FA like Greg Monroe did.

We need to forget about Butler this year and move on, because its not about what he wants but what the Bulls want. I like Butler, but not enough to give up anyone in our young core. The new CBA was made for this exact situation. They give the team every possibly advantage to keep their young stars, so they don't go running to a big market team.

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I think Bulls match anything w Jimmy Butler. Maybe next year if we miss on Durant.

I'll be happy w something like this.

Russell/ Clarkson/ Vet

Kobe/ Young/ Ellington

Caron Butler/ Rookie

Randle/ Kelly/ Lance

DeAndre/ Sacre/ UpShaw

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Also it seems like every year we hear about some FA coming to lakers and than it doesn't happen. Most of it is just their agents using lakers as leverage against their current teams. Butler wanting to sign a 1 year deal is bullsh+t!! He can't sign one year deal it's against league rules. Only way we get him is through trade or next year in FA, if he becomes UFA.

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If Butler really wants to cash in he HAS to sign the QO. Basically a one year deal with the Bulls so he can cash in big next offseason. Once he signs the QO he has a bit more leverage to also request/demand a trade to the Lakers.

Lakers should then offer Clarkson, Young, Kelly and future 1st and second and take back Butler and Gibson.

I know Gibson would eat into the Salary cap but taking back his contract would be more enticing to the Bulls as they would clear cap space for other free agents. And they have Mirotic who played well and will be Gibsons replacement for less money.

SO after some calculations (Salary out vs. Salary In) the Lakers would have ~16.8 in cap space to work with to bring in a FA to join what could be this Roster:

Russell

Kobe/ J. Brown

Butler/ A. Brown (rookie)

Randle/Gibson/Nance

???/Black/Sacre

Which FA could fit? I think the obvious need here would be a center so these options are most viable in my opinion:

Robin Lopez

Tyson Chandler

Kosta Koufos

Greg Monroe

Signing one of these centers could still give Lakers flexibility to have money left in the cap to sign a decent back up to Russell.

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LALA-LandShow24 wrote:
If Butler really wants to cash in he HAS to sign the QO. Basically a one year deal with the Bulls so he can cash in big next offseason. Once he signs the QO he has a bit more leverage to also request/demand a trade to the Lakers.

Lakers should then offer Clarkson, Young, Kelly and future 1st and second and take back Butler and Gibson.

I know Gibson would eat into the Salary cap but taking back his contract would be more enticing to the Bulls as they would clear cap space for other free agents. And they have Mirotic who played well and will be Gibsons replacement for less money.

SO after some calculations (Salary out vs. Salary In) the Lakers would have ~16.8 in cap space to work with to bring in a FA to join what could be this Roster:

Russell

Kobe/ J. Brown

Butler/ A. Brown (rookie)

Randle/Gibson/Nance

???/Black/Sacre

Which FA could fit? I think the obvious need here would be a center so these options are most viable in my opinion:

Robin Lopez

Tyson Chandler

Kosta Koufos

Greg Monroe

Signing one of these centers could still give Lakers flexibility to have money left in the cap to sign a decent back up to Russell.

Depending on how Upshaw does in summer league, I'd put him ahead of Sacre and black.

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Anyone think this a leverage ploy by Butler's camp....

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Depending on how Upshaw does in summer league, I'd put him ahead of Sacre and black.

That Is true. I forgot the Lakers had signed him until i read another thread. Keeping my fingers crossed for Upshaw. If he pans out, maybe we don't need a big time FA center? But probably should still look into a vet to start.

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Anyone think this a leverage ploy by Butler's camp....

More than likely as he is not allowed to sign anything less than a 3 year contract with another team once the QO was made. The bulls will not let him go over a 3 year pact. Really the only leverage Butler would have is to sign the QO and have the bulls risk losing him for nothing after the season. Butler would then put pressure on them to trade him to his desired destination, whether that be the Lakers or anywhere else.

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Butler is a Bull for the next 4-5 years in my mind, unless he signs that one-year qualifier that allows him to be unrestricted next year.

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LALA-LandShow24 wrote:
More than likely as he is not allowed to sign anything less than a 3 year contract with another team once the QO was made. The bulls will not let him go over a 3 year pact. Really the only leverage Butler would have is to sign the QO and have the bulls risk losing him for nothing after the season. Butler would then put pressure on them to trade him to his desired destination, whether that be the Lakers or anywhere else.

Exactly! And Randle ' s contract matches perfectly! If they were willing to do that, and the kings want russel and Clarkson and future picks for cousins, you got to go for both. I like the potential in Russell, Randle and Clarkson, but I am enamored of the thought of a kobe/ butler/ aldridge/ cousins combo way more!

The best part of the whole thing is that come next off season, we would have the rights to butler, and he would have a 4.4 million cap hold, b which would allow us to sign durant, resign kobe and then go over the cap to resign butler. Or kobe could retire. Lol

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Some of you are too impatient are wiling to sell the farm for a WIN NOW moment. Its not going to happen, and it is not realistic. There is no way we would be able to afford all 4 of kobe/butler/aldridge/cousins. Mitch stated we wouldn't be sacrificing our future like that. Y'all need some chill.

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And then they want to sign Durant next year lol

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JJCali wrote:
And then they want to sign Durant next year lol

LOL i know right. smh some of these posters.

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Some Of THE So Posters? Lmao just cause you can't pick up a calculator, doesn't mean it can be done. And selling the farm to win now? Lmao that right there is 2 cornerstones for the next 10 years bud, that's win now and win later. The lakers can't afford to sit around and take another 4 or 5 years rebuilding on unknown untapped potential

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plus it's not contractually allowed... Butler CANNOT sign a 1 yr deal with the Lakers this year. Best is a 2yr, and more likely it would have to be a 3yr.

And at that point Butler will more than likely sign a 1 or 2 or 5 yr deal with Chicago.

Sure I would like to have Butler, but it ain't happening this year. If he signs a 1 year only deal with Chicago then we can hope for next year.

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If butler signs the 4.4 million QO, butler might force their hand, "trade me to the lakers and get something while you can (a 2nd year randle, with allstar potential bonus a rookie contract) or nothing at all. I bet they take the bait

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Yup, it will definitely be telling if Butler signs the regular qualifying offer. There's a big possibility that this was all orchestrated by his agent to make sure that the Bulls max him out. However, we'll find out tomorrow which way it goes.

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No matter what he was going to get maxed out. So I font see the need for leverage on that front. All he would have to do is sign a max offer sheet and he's getting his money. There's a bunch of teams that would sign him to that. So I think he really wants out

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24All_DAY wrote:
No matter what he was going to get maxed out. So I font see the need for leverage on that front. All he would have to do is sign a max offer sheet and he's getting his money. There's a bunch of teams that would sign him to that. So I think he really wants out

Yeah it was telling that when the rumors started flying about Butler wanting out that it was Woj that first broke it. Woj doesn't usually break just any story. Again though, we'll see. All we can do is hope for the best.

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True! I hope he signs the QO on the first

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Yeah it was telling that when the rumors started flying about Butler wanting out that it was Woj that first broke it. Woj doesn't usually break just any story. Again though, we'll see. All we can do is hope for the best.

Couldn't have said it any better. There's definitely more to this than Butler just wanting a shorter deal from the Bulls. My belief is that he really wants out and that he's looking to come here. Why would you need leverage in a scenario where you know that the Bulls will match any dollar amount that you get?

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And then they want to sign Durant next year lol

Can it not be done with the ballooning cap and Kobes expiring contract next offseason? If it can't let me know but I'm under the assumption the Lakers are going to have lots to spend next offseason.

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Can it not be done with the ballooning cap and Kobes expiring contract next offseason? If it can't let me know but I'm under the assumption the Lakers are going to have lots to spend next offseason.

Oh they definitely can. That's if we sign more 1 year contracts. Next year is a big increase in cap, then 2017 will be the biggest leap.

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24All_DAY wrote:
Some Of THE So Posters? Lmao just cause you can't pick up a calculator, doesn't mean it can be done. And selling the farm to win now? Lmao that right there is 2 cornerstones for the next 10 years bud, that's win now and win later. The lakers can't afford to sit around and take another 4 or 5 years rebuilding on unknown untapped potential

please explain to me how we would be able to fit kobe/butler/aldridge/cousins on one roster with our cap this year. I can pick up a calculator, and theres no way this can be done. We wouldn't have any money to fill out the roster with anything but vet min contracts. Also who would play for another 10 years? maybe butler? Cousins till he is 34? aldridge till he is 40? and Kobe till he is 47? Please, sit down.

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kb24_4life wrote:
Can it not be done with the ballooning cap and Kobes expiring contract next offseason? If it can't let me know but I'm under the assumption the Lakers are going to have lots to spend next offseason.
the cap doesn't balloon this offseason, so how are they going to get Cousins, Butler & Aldridge this year? And even next year, I don't think they'd be able to resign Kobe and add Durant. That'd be at least $90M on 5 players. The cap isn't going up to infinite.

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I think the best route for the Lakers would be to get a player such as DeAndre Jordan this summer while Butler signs on to the Bulls for 1 year. Next off season the Lakers could sign Butler and try hard for Durant. That's Russell, Butler, Durant, Randle, Jordan, with Clarkson off the bench. While a dream, still very possible under the cap.

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JJCali wrote:
the cap doesn't balloon this offseason, so how are they going to get Cousins, Butler & Aldridge this year? And even next year, I don't think they'd be able to resign Kobe and add Durant. That'd be at least $90M on 5 players. The cap isn't going up to infinite.

Agree, although I don't think Kobe will be at the top of their list to resign. Think they'll go after whoever they're targeting in FA, than if kobe wants to take a big pay cut, they bring him back.

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the cap doesn't balloon this offseason, so how are they going to get Cousins, Butler & Aldridge this year? And even next year, I don't think they'd be able to resign Kobe and add Durant. That'd be at least $90M on 5 players. The cap isn't going up to infinite.

Pretty sure I said next offseason the cap goes way up. And never said anything about Cousins here. This offseason clearly can only bring one max player however next offseason, depending on what the max is, we might be able to have close to two max contracts because Russell and Randle will still be on rookie deals and Kobe will be gone.

I'm thinking more along the lines of Russell, Clarkson, Durant, Randle, and one of either Aldridge, Butler, or DeAndre Jordan. Is that not possible by next offseason? I'm no cap expert, obviously, so I don't really know.

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kb24_4life wrote:
Pretty sure I said next offseason the cap goes way up. And never said anything about Cousins here. This offseason clearly can only bring one max player however next offseason, depending on what the max is, we might be able to have close to two max contracts because Russell and Randle will still be on rookie deals and Kobe will be gone.

I'm thinking more along the lines of Russell, Clarkson, Durant, Randle, and one of either Aldridge, Butler, or DeAndre Jordan. Is that not possible by next offseason? I'm no cap expert, obviously, so I don't really know.

Yeah, you said next season. We were talking about Cousins, Aldridge and Butler this offseason though. So it doesn't matter if it balloons next year.

What you're saying is very possible. That's just one free agent this year and Durant next year. Very possible, especially with Kobe's contract coming off the books.

In your scenario I would prefer Jordan this year and Durant next year. That's a great team possibly.

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Agree, although I don't think Kobe will be at the top of their list to resign. Think they'll go after whoever they're targeting in FA, than if kobe wants to take a big pay cut, they bring him back.

Which is all moot cause he's probably retiring anyways. We STILL can't afford the rest of that team lol.

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please explain to me how we would be able to fit kobe/butler/aldridge/cousins on one roster with our cap this year. I can pick up a calculator, and theres no way this can be done. We wouldn't have any money to fill out the roster with anything but vet min contracts. Also who would play for another 10 years? maybe butler? Cousins till he is 34? aldridge till he is 40? and Kobe till he is 47? Please, sit down.
bro it really isn't that hard to figure out. I'll do it step by step so you can follow along. Step 1- trade Russell, Clarkson, nick young and a couple future picks for cousins. His contract is for 14 million. Step 2- sign Aldridge to max 18.8 million. At this point, the lakers have 25 million (kobe) + 14 million (Cousins) + 19 million (Aldridge) = 58 million. The rest if the contracts we carry is 7 million. So technically we can have those 3 and be 2 million under the cap. Now the last step is getting butler, like i explained before, we can't give him a contract (1, we would be over the cap then and 2, the bulls would match it and lock him up long term), he has to sign the qualifying offer from the bulls (4.4 million), once he does that, the bulls are on the clock to move him before he becomes a free agent and they don't get anything for him. He's already let it be know he wants to play for us, and we will have cap room next year, I don't think any teams would cough up cheap talent like randle for a rental. We trade julius randle for jimmy butler.

Since butlers contract would be 4.4 million cap hold, with the rest if the team locked up, the lakers renounce their rights to kobe next year and make a play for durant.

And I didn't say the whole team still has a good 10 years, I said we would gave TWO cornerstones for the next 10 years (butler and cousins - and yes, cousins will still be putting in work at 34, he's ZBO on steroids)

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Oh and we would resign butler after we lock up durant, since we can go over the cap to retain our own free agents. And to answer your question, yes we fill the rest of the roster with vet min contracts

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24All_DAY wrote:
bro it really isn't that hard to figure out. I'll do it step by step so you can follow along. Step 1- trade Russell, Clarkson, nick young and a couple future picks for cousins. His contract is for 14 million. Step 2- sign Aldridge to max 18.8 million. At this point, the lakers have 25 million (kobe) + 14 million (Cousins) + 19 million (Aldridge) = 58 million. The rest if the contracts we carry is 7 million. So technically we can have those 3 and be 2 million under the cap. Now the last step is getting butler, like i explained before, we can't give him a contract (1, we would be over the cap then and 2, the bulls would match it and lock him up long term), he has to sign the qualifying offer from the bulls (4.4 million), once he does that, the bulls are on the clock to move him before he becomes a free agent and they don't get anything for him. He's already let it be know he wants to play for us, and we will have cap room next year, I don't think any teams would cough up cheap talent like randle for a rental. We trade julius randle for jimmy butler.

Since butlers contract would be 4.4 million cap hold, with the rest if the team locked up, the lakers renounce their rights to kobe next year and make a play for durant.

And I didn't say the whole team still has a good 10 years, I said we would gave TWO cornerstones for the next 10 years (butler and cousins - and yes, cousins will still be putting in work at 34, he's ZBO on steroids)

I dunno if he's ZBo on steroids. He's ZBo on Abilify maybe, not steroids.

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24All_DAY wrote:
bro it really isn't that hard to figure out. I'll do it step by step so you can follow along. Step 1- trade Russell, Clarkson, nick young and a couple future picks for cousins. His contract is for 14 million. Step 2- sign Aldridge to max 18.8 million. At this point, the lakers have 25 million (kobe) + 14 million (Cousins) + 19 million (Aldridge) = 58 million. The rest if the contracts we carry is 7 million. So technically we can have those 3 and be 2 million under the cap. Now the last step is getting butler, like i explained before, we can't give him a contract (1, we would be over the cap then and 2, the bulls would match it and lock him up long term), he has to sign the qualifying offer from the bulls (4.4 million), once he does that, the bulls are on the clock to move him before he becomes a free agent and they don't get anything for him. He's already let it be know he wants to play for us, and we will have cap room next year, I don't think any teams would cough up cheap talent like randle for a rental. We trade julius randle for jimmy butler.

Since butlers contract would be 4.4 million cap hold, with the rest if the team locked up, the lakers renounce their rights to kobe next year and make a play for durant.

And I didn't say the whole team still has a good 10 years, I said we would gave TWO cornerstones for the next 10 years (butler and cousins - and yes, cousins will still be putting in work at 34, he's ZBO on steroids)

you just proved yourself wrong. I don't know where you got the 7million from, but 58 million plus the 5 million we still owe to nick young, and i believe 4.5 million goes to our 2nd round draft pick, on top of the minimum salaries to black, sacre, clarkson, kelly, nance, and the 2 browns. We would be reaching and extending ourselves way over the salary cap, and that even before we could trade randle for butler (if they would even seriously consider that). That Is not even realistic.

24All_DAY
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Aone wrote:
you just proved yourself wrong. I don't know where you got the 7million from, but 58 million plus the 5 million we still owe to nick young, and i believe 4.5 million goes to our 2nd round draft pick, on top of the minimum salaries to black, sacre, clarkson, kelly, nance, and the 2 browns. We would be reaching and extending ourselves way over the salary cap, and that even before we could trade randle for butler (if they would even seriously consider that). That Is not even realistic.

go back and RE READ the post, i said trade young and 2nd round picks are less then 1 million.

24All_DAY
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and the 7 million i was was talking about was the 3 for randle, 1 for sacre, 1 for black, 1.7 for kelly and 1 for brown.


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