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Lakers Expected To Pursue Jimmy Butler May 9 at 5:51pm CDT By Chris Crouse The Lakers are expected to be one of several teams preparing a maximum salary offer sheet for Bulls guard Jimmy Butler, Shams Charania of RealGM reports. Chicago reportedly intends to match any offer sheet that he signs, but Charania notes that teams around the league are questioning how Chicago will handle the inevitable max contract for another star player given their pricey commitment to Derrick Rose. Los Angeles only has slightly under $35.1MM in guaranteed contracts on the books for the 2015/16 season, as our Salary Commitment page shows,....

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I could get on board with that.

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Was listening to a former GM say Kawhi Leonard has no shot of not getting matched by the Spurs. That even they would pay a max deal for a young player entering his prime. That is disappointing, the Lakers probably know this already and will look elsewhere. He also said D. Green of the Warriors would not be going anywhere either, but Butler could be the one player that gets away. The Bulls may not want to pay another max deal.

I would also look at T. Harris, as I've read that he may be the odd man out in Orlando with all of their young players and another top pick this offseason. He is also 3 years younger than Butler.

I would be extremely happy with Butler, Leonard or Harris coming to the Lakers though. So this would be great news!

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Not sure how likely it would be, but I would love Butler on this team. He would be an excellent starting wing for us, for now and the future. Excellent defender and versatile scorer.

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Might as well try! They got rose gasol Gibson on bigger contracts plus Noah is a free agent in 2016.

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First off, duh! Of course we'll go after Butler haha. We'd be fools not to. That's not to say we have a chance, but hey we can dream right? Chicago has always been a bit frugal when managing their cap and like JJ said, they won't have too much room under their cap for another max contract. Might as well offer Jimmy the max and see if the Bulls match. If not, then oh well, we won't lose much. The only thing I wonder (and really the only thing we risk losing) is if we offer Butler a max contract, will that cause us to lose our shot at Harris (if Chicago matches Butler's contract)? They're both RFA, both play the same position, but Harris is more attainable. Obviously though, we go after Butler first, since he's better. Though I would be happy with either. If we offer a max contract to Butler and Chicago matches before the 72 hour deadline, there's a good chance that many of the other sought after free agents will be signed also.

Hopefully then we can still go after Robin Lopez and KJ McDaniels which wouldn't be too bad. Especially since we're likely to fall to 5th in the draft (if we keep the pick) and will be getting Winslow.

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Everything depends on the draft... which depends on the lottery, but I really hope we can come away with one of Leonard/Harris/Butler AND KJ McDaniels. That would be my ideal offseason. Unless we draft Winslow, then I'd like to go after D. Jordan and McDaniels.

These remaining 9 days are taking forever. Come on lottery, hurry up and get here!

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JJCali wrote:
Everything depends on the draft... which depends on the lottery, but I really hope we can come away with one of Leonard/Harris/Butler AND KJ McDaniels. That would be my ideal offseason. Unless we draft Winslow, then I'd like to go after D. Jordan and McDaniels.

These remaining 9 days are taking forever. Come on lottery, hurry up and get here!

I'm with you man, I can't wait to see where we end up. I really REALLY hope we don't fall out of the top five. As far as FA goes, I hope we offer a max contract to Butler when FA opens, a max contract to Harris after Butler, AND a $4-6 mllion contract to McDaniels when FA opens. If we draft Winslow, then I'd hold off on trying to get Butler or Harris and go after RoLo or Deandre instead (unless we get lucky and draft Towns or Okafor), but I would still offer McDaniels a contract at the start of free agency.

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Go for it LA..........

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kerby720 wrote:
First off, duh! Of course we'll go after Butler haha. We'd be fools not to. That's not to say we have a chance, but hey we can dream right? Chicago has always been a bit frugal when managing their cap and like JJ said, they won't have too much room under their cap for another max contract. Might as well offer Jimmy the max and see if the Bulls match. If not, then oh well, we won't lose much. The only thing I wonder (and really the only thing we risk losing) is if we offer Butler a max contract, will that cause us to lose our shot at Harris (if Chicago matches Butler's contract)? They're both RFA, both play the same position, but Harris is more attainable. Obviously though, we go after Butler first, since he's better. Though I would be happy with either. If we offer a max contract to Butler and Chicago matches before the 72 hour deadline, there's a good chance that many of the other sought after free agents will be signed also.

Hopefully then we can still go after Robin Lopez and KJ McDaniels which wouldn't be too bad. Especially since we're likely to fall to 5th in the draft (if we keep the pick) and will be getting Winslow.

The problem is that darn TV money. It really couldn't have come at a worse time for the lakers. Yes it is going to give them more cap space, but teams that would never have matched some of the contracts this summer are now more than willing to. Its basically a 1 year hit and then they can slide back under the luxury tax the following year.

Throw in the fact the salary cap is increasing amounts never seen before it just makes stealing star players so much more difficult. A contract max of $15/16 million this summer is going to be chump change when players like LBJ will be topping $30 million.

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I'm with you man, I can't wait to see where we end up. I really REALLY hope we don't fall out of the top five. As far as FA goes, I hope we offer a max contract to Butler when FA opens, a max contract to Harris after Butler, AND a $4-6 mllion contract to McDaniels when FA opens. If we draft Winslow, then I'd hold off on trying to get Butler or Harris and go after RoLo or Deandre instead (unless we get lucky and draft Towns or Okafor), but I would still offer McDaniels a contract at the start of free agency.

I think we have the same plan.

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Butler stated his intention to remain a Bull, too.

"This is a place for me. I love playing with the guys that we have," he said. "They continue to bring in great, high character guys that fit the team role. I love it here. I'm happy to be here."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... /27058909/

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Sounds like he's ready to leave.

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JJCali wrote:
I think we have the same plan.

Let's hope Mitch and Jim see things the way we do or maybe they see something better. In any case though, I feel like getting Harris, Rolo, and McDaniels aren't that unrealistic. Butler is a stretch, but he's worth going for.

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Butler is RFA - not gonna happen. Bulls will match max offer sheet, no way they let him go. Plus, several teams with cap space are likely to offer him the max money, so no guarantee he even signs the offer sheet with Lakers

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Might as well close this thread. He's not going ANYWHERE.

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noname24 wrote:
Might as well close this thread. He's not going ANYWHERE.

Yeah, agree. Even if the Lakers put a poison pill in contract, Bulls who probably match. With Cap going up, It's a bad year to go after top RFA'S.

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This thread is cute.. LOL

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What about a sign and trade? Think the Bulls would be up for trading Butler and the 22nd pick for the Lakers #4/5, N.Young and the second round pick?

Bulls can draft Winslow to replace Jimmy, save on money (yes I know the cap will be increased the following year, but the Bulls are more frugal than the Lakers when it comes to cap).

To me Butler would be worth it. He is only 25, and while Lakers could draft Winslow as well, having a proven (young) commodity in Butler is a better way to go for Lakers. Lakers then could still draft (if available) Tyus Jones and Upshaw. Then buy 1 or 2 second round picks from the sixers (#17& 28 or 30) since they have 5 second round picks.

Then make an offer to KJ McDaniels. RoLo, decline Hills option, Resign Davis for ~3.5-5 mil/year at 2-3 years. Sign a veteran guard to be a back up (Brooks or Sloan?) along with Tyus.

Clarkson/ Brooks/ T. Jones

Kobe/ McDaniels

Butler/ 2nd round pick and/or FA.

Randle/ Kelly/ Black

RoLo/Davis/Upshaw/ Sacre (why is this guy still around?)

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With a battered up D-Rose from year to year, I think it's impossible to see Butler go elsewhere. He's just too good for them on both ends of the floor for them to let him go elsewhere. I honestly think we have a better chance with Draymond Green but even then, it's still highly unlikely we get any of these restricted guys. I still don't understand as to why we aren't being listed as suitors for Deandre Jordan.

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tmike23 wrote:
With a battered up D-Rose from year to year, I think it's impossible to see Butler go elsewhere. He's just too good for them on both ends of the floor for them to let him go elsewhere. I honestly think we have a better chance with Draymond Green but even then, it's still highly unlikely we get any of these restricted guys. I still don't understand as to why we aren't being listed as suitors for Deandre Jordan.

Maybe because we've been down a similar road with a player like him? aka D. Howard. Good defense, ok offense, Crappy FT shooter. Plus DJ probably doesn't want to play for Lakers.

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The Bulls would be making a huge mistake if they didn't match regardless of the money they have tied up in Rose. Butler is their best player.

Its all going to come down to where the Lakers fall in the lottery. If they get lucky and can land one of the 2 bigs or Winslow it opens up FA to them. I just pray they don't draft a PG...They don't need one and the couple that are available just don't scream star to me.

Towns

Okafor

Winslow

If its WInslow because I expect the Lakers to be 3 or 4...

Go get Monroe in FA to be a post threat and a nice big athletic young C to grow with Randle and Clarkson and WInslow.

Keep Ed Davis and Hill.

I know some don't like Monroe's lack of rim protection, but he is a moose on O with a nice post up game and he can rebound both ends. He is also a young guy which is a perfect fit to grow with what looks like its going to be a very young roster...That core could challenge in a few years imo.

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The Bulls would be making a huge mistake if they didn't match regardless of the money they have tied up in Rose. Butler is their best player.

Its all going to come down to where the Lakers fall in the lottery. If they get lucky and can land one of the 2 bigs or Winslow it opens up FA to them. I just pray they don't draft a PG...They don't need one and the couple that are available just don't scream star to me.

Towns

Okafor

Winslow

If its WInslow because I expect the Lakers to be 3 or 4...

Go get Monroe in FA to be a post threat and a nice big athletic young C to grow with Randle and Clarkson and WInslow.

Keep Ed Davis and Hill.

I know some don't like Monroe's lack of rim protection, but he is a moose on O with a nice post up game and he can rebound both ends. He is also a young guy which is a perfect fit to grow with what looks like its going to be a very young roster...That core could challenge in a few years imo.

Don't like Monroe at center, but wouldn't be mad if they sign him. Disagree about pg's in draft. I think they'll be just as good as Towns, okafor or Winslow. Really don't see any players coming out of this draft being stars first couple of years, if ever.

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I think that saying they would go after him, is a way of feeling out the market, to see if coming our way would be agreeable, and what Chicago's inclination is as far as matching.

I don't think there is a hope for him, Chicago would be crazy not to match. I think our best bet might be to entice T.Harris or Middleton... but I don't know if even they are attainable, and we'd likely be overpaying for either of them to get them. (sidenote: what Milwaukee is building is a team full of length with Middleton at SG, not sure if they would let that go.. plus they have the cap room to match as well.)

I am keeping my expectation for FA's low this off season.

Hopefully keeping and drafting a top-5, getting Randle back healthy, developing Clarkson and the new draftees (top-5 and late 1st, as well as early 2nd)... This will be enough as a step in the right direction for this off-season. If we get more, than great!... but hopefully not a star or stars in the later portion of his prime (Love and/or Rondo.. ugh please no)

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Maybe because we've been down a similar road with a player like him? aka D. Howard. Good defense, ok offense, Crappy FT shooter. Plus DJ probably doesn't want to play for Lakers.

I really do think the whole hack-a-PlayerX is being taken out of proportion. Of all the playoff games in which the hack-a-DJ has been implemented, the Clippers have won every single one of those games but one and even then, you could argue that the officiating was favored towards the Spurs almost the entire game. I understand that his offensive game is sub-par at best but he's a guy who does all the dirty work, is the best rim protector/rebounder in the league, he gets you easy buckets in terms of finishing the lob and putback dunks. How much of a difference does it make if a guy were to have post moves if he's already hitting 71% from the field. The only way in which post moves are effective is if you are a team that has a scheme where your half court sets are more effective then being out in transition. Also, by getting a DJ, you're also making the Clippers even weaker. You're probably right about the fact that he wouldn't want to play here since he's been a lifelong Clipper but every player in the league knows that when it comes to playing under the bright lights, no lights are brighter when wearing a purple and gold jersey. Another thing about DJ is that he's not injury prone, unlike Dwight. This guy is one of the most durable players in the league. He's probably the most athletic big we've ever seen and to be able to add a player who's only 26-27 and just entering his prime, it would be great to see management go after a guy like that.

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I really do think the whole hack-a-PlayerX is being taken out of proportion. Of all the playoff games in which the hack-a-DJ has been implemented, the Clippers have won every single one of those games but one and even then, you could argue that the officiating was favored towards the Spurs almost the entire game. I understand that his offensive game is sub-par at best but he's a guy who does all the dirty work, is the best rim protector/rebounder in the league, he gets you easy buckets in terms of finishing the lob and putback dunks. How much of a difference does it make if a guy were to have post moves if he's already hitting 71% from the field. The only way in which post moves are effective is if you are a team that has a scheme where your half court sets are more effective then being out in transition. Also, by getting a DJ, you're also making the Clippers even weaker. You're probably right about the fact that he wouldn't want to play here since he's been a lifelong Clipper but every player in the league knows that when it comes to playing under the bright lights, no lights are brighter when wearing a purple and gold jersey. Another thing about DJ is that he's not injury prone, unlike Dwight. This guy is one of the most durable players in the league. He's probably the most athletic big we've ever seen and to be able to add a player who's only 26-27 and just entering his prime, it would be great to see management go after a guy like that.

From what I have read Dallas seem like they are going to offer big money to him. If that is the case I would love to see Chandler on a short term deal.

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Don't like Monroe at center, but wouldn't be mad if they sign him. Disagree about pg's in draft. I think they'll be just as good as Towns, okafor or Winslow. Really don't see any players coming out of this draft being stars first couple of years, if ever.

Which is why the Lakers should have tanked and tanked hard the season before. Randle may end up being a great player but Wiggins is looking like a franchise player.

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What about a sign and trade? Think the Bulls would be up for trading Butler and the 22nd pick for the Lakers #4/5, N.Young and the second round pick?

Bulls can draft Winslow to replace Jimmy, save on money (yes I know the cap will be increased the following year, but the Bulls are more frugal than the Lakers when it comes to cap).

To me Butler would be worth it. He is only 25, and while Lakers could draft Winslow as well, having a proven (young) commodity in Butler is a better way to go for Lakers. Lakers then could still draft (if available) Tyus Jones and Upshaw. Then buy 1 or 2 second round picks from the sixers (#17& 28 or 30) since they have 5 second round picks.

Then make an offer to KJ McDaniels. RoLo, decline Hills option, Resign Davis for ~3.5-5 mil/year at 2-3 years. Sign a veteran guard to be a back up (Brooks or Sloan?) along with Tyus.

Clarkson/ Brooks/ T. Jones

Kobe/ McDaniels

Butler/ 2nd round pick and/or FA.

Randle/ Kelly/ Black

RoLo/Davis/Upshaw/ Sacre (why is this guy still around?)

Hell no! And I'm not saying your idea is bad or anything. But after this horrible year, we better come away with one of these top draft picks. If a guy like Butler wants to come to LA, he can sign with us. I'm not giving up our top pick for him.

We need to come away with a good free agent AND our top pick! ...Assuming we keep it.

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I really do think the whole hack-a-PlayerX is being taken out of proportion. Of all the playoff games in which the hack-a-DJ has been implemented, the Clippers have won every single one of those games but one and even then, you could argue that the officiating was favored towards the Spurs almost the entire game. I understand that his offensive game is sub-par at best but he's a guy who does all the dirty work, is the best rim protector/rebounder in the league, he gets you easy buckets in terms of finishing the lob and putback dunks. How much of a difference does it make if a guy were to have post moves if he's already hitting 71% from the field. The only way in which post moves are effective is if you are a team that has a scheme where your half court sets are more effective then being out in transition. Also, by getting a DJ, you're also making the Clippers even weaker. You're probably right about the fact that he wouldn't want to play here since he's been a lifelong Clipper but every player in the league knows that when it comes to playing under the bright lights, no lights are brighter when wearing a purple and gold jersey. Another thing about DJ is that he's not injury prone, unlike Dwight. This guy is one of the most durable players in the league. He's probably the most athletic big we've ever seen and to be able to add a player who's only 26-27 and just entering his prime, it would be great to see management go after a guy like that.

I see your point. Plus He wouldn't be the focus of the offense. There are a lot of "IFs" to signing him. Like IF he wants to play for the Lakers, If management/coach will implement more of a run and gun system (which is what I think he excels at), If management can get another player to be the focal point of the offense (post Kobe era). At this point I agree he is probably the most athletic and defensive minded Big, but for the scoring punch, I think LA is better. However, we have Randle for the 4 spot and I think getting a lower cost defensive minded big and a SF that can play both sides of the ball (Leonard, Butler, Green, Harris) would be better suited for the Lakers.

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Hell no! And I'm not saying your idea is bad or anything. But after this horrible year, we better come away with one of these top draft picks. If a guy like Butler wants to come to LA, he can sign with us. I'm not giving up our top pick for him.

We need to come away with a good free agent AND our top pick! ...Assuming we keep it.

Haha. At least you totally don't hate my idea. The Lakers do seem to be in a position to have their cake and eat it too (cap space and high draft pick). I'm just thinking if we really want to contend next year while getting a young proven all star player who could be the successor for Kobe, this could be a way to go.

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From what I have read Dallas seem like they are going to offer big money to him. If that is the case I would love to see Chandler on a short term deal.

I love Tyson Chandler but after watching him go up against the Rockets these playoffs, I just don't think he has that much more to offer for the price I'm sure other teams might want to steal him for from Dallas. Then again, I'm not sure if he had significant lingering injuries or anything of that nature. He did have a pretty solid season and I wouldn't be opposed to giving him anywhere from 5-7 million in free agency if he fits what it is they're trying to do next year. I'll take that over the 9 mill that's owed to Jordan Hill lol.

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LALA-LandShow24 wrote:
I see your point. Plus He wouldn't be the focus of the offense. There are a lot of "IFs" to signing him. Like IF he wants to play for the Lakers, If management/coach will implement more of a run and gun system (which is what I think he excels at), If management can get another player to be the focal point of the offense (post Kobe era). At this point I agree he is probably the most athletic and defensive minded Big, but for the scoring punch, I think LA is better. However, we have Randle for the 4 spot and I think getting a lower cost defensive minded big and a SF that can play both sides of the ball (Leonard, Butler, Green, Harris) would be better suited for the Lakers.

Ya forsure. He's definitely not a guy you would build around on the offensive end but he's every team's dream scenario on the defensive end. Of course all those things are huge factors in his decision to want to come here and the odds are we're probably not going to get him anyway. I don't have that much faith in this front office to be able to snag a guy like that. I would much rather prefer them going after one of those wings but being that all those guys are restricted and being in good situations as it is, I don't really see them leaving their teams. However, you never know what happens in free agency (i.e. Chandler Parsons last year)

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Deandre Jordan would be my #2 choice free agent to sign, after Leonard/Harris/Butler. I'll call them my first choice.

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JJCali wrote:
Deandre Jordan would be my #2 choice free agent to sign, after Leonard/Harris/Butler. I'll call them my first choice.

Deandre Jordan is only going away if Marc Gasol is coming and I don't see Marc coming this way... jimmy Butler would be huge for any team.. has us all drooling over him.

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I think the lakers will make a max offer to all three and hope to land one. I do not see Jimmy Butler leaving the Bull's. But it would not surprise me if D Jordan does sign with the Lakers. As far as to Marc Gasol, it all depends how far they get in the playoffs. If they are eliminated by the Warriors, he might want to leave the Grizz.

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I think the lakers will make a max offer to all three and hope to land one. I do not see Jimmy Butler leaving the Bull's. But it would not surprise me if D Jordan does sign with the Lakers. As far as to Marc Gasol, it all depends how far they get in the playoffs. If they are eliminated by the Warriors, he might want to leave the Grizz.

Don't see Gasol leaving Memphis at all. But stranger things have happened.

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Would y'all consider a Jimmy Butler for Jordan Clarkson sign and trade? in my opinion, I think it's a no brainer and probably our best way to snag him from the Bulls.

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tmike23 wrote:
Would y'all consider a Jimmy Butler for Jordan Clarkson sign and trade? in my opinion, I think it's a no brainer and probably our best way to snag him from the Bulls.

Why would the bulls do that trade. What are they getting out of it. They're giving up a all star player for Clarkson. They'd definitely want a pick too. And even then, don't see it happening.

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tmike23 wrote:
Would y'all consider a Jimmy Butler for Jordan Clarkson sign and trade? in my opinion, I think it's a no brainer and probably our best way to snag him from the Bulls.

Not even remotely close to happening. If you think Clarkson is equal to Butler talent-wise, then I don't know what to tell you. We would have to include our possible top-5 at least, but no it's not going to happen.

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tmike23 wrote:
Would y'all consider a Jimmy Butler for Jordan Clarkson sign and trade? in my opinion, I think it's a no brainer and probably our best way to snag him from the Bulls.

Would every Laker fan do it? Yes.

But please answer me why the Bulls would.

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tmike23 wrote:
Would y'all consider a Jimmy Butler for Jordan Clarkson sign and trade? in my opinion, I think it's a no brainer and probably our best way to snag him from the Bulls.

Would every Laker fan do it? Yes.

But please answer me why the Bulls would.

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I agree with La-La landzone 24.

While Gasol and DJ are top centers in this league and both available, the draft offers potential for a def or off center that could be valuable. Combine R Lopez and Towns or Okafor and we look great at the 5 for far less money. Spending should be on that SF two way player like Leonard or Butler.

The other option which may be more realistic is drafting Winslow and signing DJ to a max thus filling in our needs. Either direction would be great for us depending on our draft position.

Then when Kobe's contract runs out keep filling in the FA pieces.

And Please Mitch! Please trade Hill while he's worth something. Trade Hill and our pick dallas' pick so we have a shot in hell for Tyus as our 2nd or third string pg.

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Lakers_4_Lyfe_BayBay wrote:
Would every Laker fan do it? Yes.

But please answer me why the Bulls would.

I'm not saying that they would and I'm not saying it's a good deal for them but there are rumors out there that the Bulls might not want another max player on the books. There are also rumors out there that state that Thibs is definitely on his way out after this season. With them being in such a weird place in their franchise's history, it wouldn't surprise me to see them shake some things up. Just a glimpse of hope for us as Laker fans. Giving them the top 5 plus Clarkson seems like a bit too much but it wouldn't be something that I'd be totally against either. At the end of the day, if the player doesn't want to return back, the franchise has no choice but to trade them. No one wants a disgruntled star especially when they would be paying him as much as they would. This is all speculation and optimism. If you're management, you'd have to look at every possible scenario in order to better your team.

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kerby720 wrote:
Not even remotely close to happening. If you think Clarkson is equal to Butler talent-wise, then I don't know what to tell you. We would have to include our possible top-5 at least, but no it's not going to happen.

LOL no way in hell Clarkson is as good as he is but the bulls get back a talented combo guard who's still young and developing. If Butler chooses to sign with us then the Bulls have to see if his heart is set on being with them or if he wants to go elsewhere. I don't see him leaving but it would be awesome for us if that were to be the case lol.

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kerby720 wrote:
Not even remotely close to happening. If you think Clarkson is equal to Butler talent-wise, then I don't know what to tell you. We would have to include our possible top-5 at least, but no it's not going to happen.

I'm not saying it would happen, but you guys do know the whole point to a sign and trade right? He's obviously saying that IF they were going to lose Butler in free agency Anyways, then what about a sign and trade for Clarkson. They might do it then. Completely doubtful, but I'm sure that's what he means. It's like the Suns losing Nash, they got tons of draft picks for him. Which people thought was nothing at the time lol.

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JJCali wrote:
I'm not saying it would happen, but you guys do know the whole point to a sign and trade right? He's obviously saying that IF they were going to lose Butler in free agency Anyways, then what about a sign and trade for Clarkson. They might do it then. Completely doubtful, but I'm sure that's what he means. It's like the Suns losing Nash, they got tons of draft picks for him. Which people thought was nothing at the time lol.

Exactly...if Butler chooses to sign with the lakers and the lakers only, what choice do the bulls have? the only way to compensate for their loss is to pluck out one of our young talented guys in order to at least get something back for losing a guy like Jimmy Butler. It's not a one for one trade. It's a technicality in order to ensure that one team isn't left with nothing when losing one of their star players. It's what Mitch should've tried to get done when losing Dwight to Houston the summer he was a free agent.

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Exactly...if Butler chooses to sign with the lakers and the lakers only, what choice do the bulls have? the only way to compensate for their loss is to pluck out one of our young talented guys in order to at least get something back for losing a guy like Jimmy Butler. It's not a one for one trade. It's a technicality in order to ensure that one team isn't left with nothing when losing one of their star players. It's what Mitch should've tried to get done when losing Dwight to Houston the summer he was a free agent.

If it were for a sign-and-trade, I guess that might be possible. But I honestly wouldn't see them trying to do a sign-and-trade. Butler is a star in this league and one of the best two-way players in the league. Unless if Chicago is that stingy with money, which they actually are known for but I don't think they will be with Butler, I can see Chicago trying to keep him. His contract is going to look nice for a player like him, especially when the cap goes up.

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Lakers_4_Lyfe_BayBay wrote:
If it were for a sign-and-trade, I guess that might be possible. But I honestly wouldn't see them trying to do a sign-and-trade. Butler is a star in this league and one of the best two-way players in the league. Unless if Chicago is that stingy with money, which they actually are known for but I don't think they will be with Butler, I can see Chicago trying to keep him. His contract is going to look nice for a player like him, especially when the cap goes up.

Lol well how else would you have imagined getting him? The only way would be for a sign and trade cause there's just no way the Bulls let him walk. There's no question that they'll match. Heck, from everything i've read, Butler wants to be back there as well but you never know what happens.

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tmike23 wrote:
Lol well how else would you have imagined getting him? The only way would be for a sign and trade cause there's just no way the Bulls let him walk. There's no question that they'll match. Heck, from everything i've read, Butler wants to be back there as well but you never know what happens.

LOL...you even mentioned their is no question they will match and he has said he wants to be back, according to various reports. So why would you think they would trade Butler for Clarkson, if the team wants him and he wants to be there?

I mean, as a Laker fan, I am pretty sure everyone would be on board with that. Just don't see it happening. I would love Butler or Kawhi to be a Laker, but realistically, their teams are going to keep them. Their contracts are going to look super nice once that cap rises by 20 million.

But I guess stranger things have happened, I just wouldn't be hopeful about it. lol

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Lakers_4_Lyfe_BayBay wrote:
LOL...you even mentioned their is no question they will match and he has said he wants to be back, according to various reports. So why would you think they would trade Butler for Clarkson, if the team wants him and he wants to be there?

I mean, as a Laker fan, I am pretty sure everyone would be on board with that. Just don't see it happening. I would love Butler or Kawhi to be a Laker, but realistically, their teams are going to keep them. Their contracts are going to look super nice once that cap rises by 20 million.

But I guess stranger things have happened, I just wouldn't be hopeful about it. lol

Lol because I'm an optimistic Laker fan who believes that anything is possible in this league. It's just that our chances are slim to none and the only way we could even entice Chicago to participate in a sign and trade for Butler would be to offer Clarkson for him. That's all there is to it. I'm not advocating it and I'm not expecting for it to happen. It's just something to hope for heading into what's going to be a crazy offseason.


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