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Lakers Rumors: Team Will 'Likely Entertain' Trade Offers For Nick Young Posted by: Corey Hansford Posted date: April 14, 2015 One of the more disappointing players for the Los Angeles Lakers this season was Nick Young. After a career year last season, Young saw his numbers drop across the board and he clashed with head coach Byron Scott at times. With three years remaining on his new contract, the Lakers could be looking to shop Young this off-season and according to Mark Medina of the Los Angeles Daily News, are likely to entertain offers for the wing player: The Lakers will likely entertain trade....


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This would be a blessing if we can get rid of Young. He plays no defense, bad attitude, lazy, and takes bad shots! He thinks he is an all star and he isn't! Plus anyone who gives themselves a nick name shouldn't be on the Lakers haha!


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I wouldn't be mad at all if they traded young,I don't understand how a player feel like there a target when the coach is just simply asking you to develop your game.


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tlakers1010 wrote:
This would be a blessing if we can get rid of Young. He plays no defense, bad attitude, lazy, and takes bad shots! He thinks he is an all star and he isn't! Plus anyone who gives themselves a nick name shouldn't be on the Lakers haha!

Like the Black Mamba?

Anyways, we are stuck with him until he actually comes good again or till he is an expiring contract a team wants.


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I'm glad that we're looking to trade him, he's inconsistent and doesn't take the game seriously.


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Are you really comparing black mamba to swaggy p?


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I don't see how we can get rid of Young without having to include one of our draft picks. Needless to say, that would not be good for the Lakers. However, if it were something like the following, then I think it'd be the best thing we could do.

Nick Young and Houston's pick (#28) for a pick between #18-#23,

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Nick Young and our #34 pick for a pick between #26-#30.


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Looking back, probably shouldn't have signed him anyway. Hindsight is a MUTHA!!!!!


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I don't see how we can get rid of Young without having to include one of our draft picks. Needless to say, that would not be good for the Lakers. However, if it were something like the following, then I think it'd be the best thing we could do.

Nick Young and Houston's pick (#28) for a pick between #18-#23,

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Nick Young and our #34 pick for a pick between #26-#30.

I think we would be the ones giving up a lower pick to get out from under that contract.


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tlakers1010 wrote:
Are you really comparing black mamba to swaggy p?

If you actually read through you would understand that the post I replied to said "Plus anyone who gives themselves a nick name shouldn't be on the Lakers haha! "

Kobe named HIMSELF the Black Mamba, so Kobe shouldn't be on the Lakers?


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But who would want him and what could they possibly offer?


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But who would want him and what could they possibly offer?

Perhaps a concert by Iggy? No? Well... I guess not much.

I guess to "Entertain" is to "Amuse" the not so interested.


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I can't believe Swaggy ruined his chances playing for his hometown team and city. He can't take criticism very well.

I know he was frustrated about being injured all year but be a leader for once. I like to have fun and joked around , but it just seemed like he didn't care.

I like the guy. Just sad how he couldn't capitalize on this big chance playing for his city


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i think he actually does have value lol. who would take the game serious? i know if i played on a team like this years lakers, i wouldn't give a crap either. put him on a contender and he's an instant sixth man candidate, problem is, he's never been on a contender. but his contract for 3 more years, 5 million a pop is a bargain come next summer when the cap goes up about 30 million. i would be happy if we could trade him with our late pick to move up to mid first round, or trade him for a player on a rookie scale contract on a contender who won't beable to cough up the money for them (like GS barnes/ draymond green) and might leave via free agnecy. if we need to throw in the rockets pick, so be it.

if i ran the front office, my summer goals would be one of these.

At pg, keep clarkson , meaning don't worry about a pg in free agency or the draft. he's on a rookie contract, and i honestly think that on a championship team, he's more then suffiecient at the starting pg.

At sg, we have kobe

At Sf, i don't care who we resign

At pf, i want us to go after a max free agent (lamarcus aldridge specifically, but if not monroe, or love; love on max deal won't be good for next season capspace, but come next summer when the cap goes up , his contract will be a lot more friendly)

And at center i would try and fill in the draft. towns is who i want. just a defnsive center, rookie contract , rebounds the ball and won't complain about his roll. that is all i want.

then at the trade deadline, use, hill, randle, and some of our 1 year deals that we would finish off the roster with this summer, and even a future pick or 2 for kevin durant. with the new cap increase next summer, i just think that the tunder won't put their whole franchise on ice for a player with foot problems. that is a dangerous idea, especially with Russ in the wing. a third of the cap? i just think they will take cherish andle next to kanter and hill off the bench. they need to retain adams too.


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Not sure if he's going to bring much back for us considering the season that he's had for us this past year. His contract isn't all that bad but finding a trade partner is still going to be difficult. A team that was rumored to want him was Toronto. For what pieces? Not sure. Maybe Miami would listen. Brooklyn? New York?


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Nick had career numbers last year because Kobe wasn't playing and he was not injured for half the season as well D'Antoni's run and gun system was ideal for his no defense playing style. I recall Van Gundy saying, that the "P" in Swaggy P certainly does not stand for pass!

I think he's a valuable bench player but with guys like Ellington and Jabari Brown, who also pass and play defense, it seems Nick's one dimensional game has caught up on him again. Kobe claims that he puts on his game face for games and practice which seems true, but why has he opted not to expand his game? I don't think his likely exit is due to conflicts with Coach Scott, I think it's simply a result of his ineffectiveness in several key areas. Given his stellar foul shooting and 3 point range, I say the Lakers ought to keep him depending on who they get at the 3 over the Summer....

Chicago's 26ppg in college McDermott is set to wallow away on the bench for years behind Mirotic because they are going to trade Taj Gibson this Summer in favor of Mirotic who made 6 three's the other night. If the Lakers could get a spot up threat like McDermott with upside, Nick instantly becomes expendable. Otherwise, keep him to bring run and gun firepower when needed. Tell him to play defense and pass or sit on the bench. He's a scorer but he's not Kevin Martin either!


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No doubt a healthy Nick Young would have value. All they have to do is look at his previous season when he was healthy. He is a person that will spread the defenses.

The reason why I would trade him is because of his lack of defense. I agree with one of the previous posters that he thinks he is a super star, but he is not. And this season he did not make any effort to improve his game. I blame his companion Iggy Azelia for messing up his brain, but who knows.

So I am for trading him and at five million per season, it is a bargain for a team like the Mavericks who like scorers. Since Dirk announced his retirement, Mark Cuban will be looking for somebody that can score big.


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tmike23 wrote:
Not sure if he's going to bring much back for us considering the season that he's had for us this past year. His contract isn't all that bad but finding a trade partner is still going to be difficult. A team that was rumored to want him was Toronto. For what pieces? Not sure. Maybe Miami would listen. Brooklyn? New York?

Read an article earlier today where it said lakers might have to give up a pick for someone to take him.


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Skyeword wrote:
Nick had career numbers last year because Kobe wasn't playing and he was not injured for half the season as well D'Antoni's run and gun system was ideal for his no defense playing style. I recall Van Gundy saying, that the "P" in Swaggy P certainly does not stand for pass!

I think he's a valuable bench player but with guys like Ellington and Jabari Brown, who also pass and play defense, it seems Nick's one dimensional game has caught up on him again. Kobe claims that he puts on his game face for games and practice which seems true, but why has he opted not to expand his game? I don't think his likely exit is due to conflicts with Coach Scott, I think it's simply a result of his ineffectiveness in several key areas. Given his stellar foul shooting and 3 point range, I say the Lakers ought to keep him depending on who they get at the 3 over the Summer....

Chicago's 26ppg in college McDermott is set to wallow away on the bench for years behind Mirotic because they are going to trade Taj Gibson this Summer in favor of Mirotic who made 6 three's the other night. If the Lakers could get a spot up threat like McDermott with upside, Nick instantly becomes expendable. Otherwise, keep him to bring run and gun firepower when needed. Tell him to play defense and pass or sit on the bench. He's a scorer but he's not Kevin Martin either!

I totally agree with the Lakers getting a spot up shooter like McDermott for Nick Young. McDermott reminds me of J.J. Redick a pure shooter and something the Lakers could use.


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I totally agree with the Lakers getting a spot up shooter like McDermott for Nick Young. McDermott reminds me of J.J. Redick a pure shooter and something the Lakers could use.

Agreed. I'd be surprised if Chicago did pull the trigger on this deal but McDermott would be a great addition to the team with the tools that he brings. He seems like a lights out shooter from deep and he's surprisingly athletic. I liked him going into last year's draft. I think he just fell out of the rotation after being injured at the start of their season but with some valuable minutes and some of season growth, he'll progress the way he should.


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I hope they can get Nick out of LA. As most of you know I can't stand one dimensional players and he is the epitome of that. I don't know how many of you play ball at Venice Beach but I use to ball there on the weekends and that's what Nick reminds me of. He reminds me of a Venice Beach baller. He stands around when he doesn't have the rock and when he does get it, he's shooting it almost every time. No other team will be foolish enough to trade for him. Even on a stacked squad he'd be there for what? Inefficient scoring off the bench and isolation play? Yeah right. Another bad move by Lakers' management when they signed him to a four year deal.


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I have never seen anybody so negative towards the Lakers front office like Gem. No faith at all that they could trade Swaggy P.

The thing is that I am not sure if they really want to trade him. Medina is the one reporting that the Lakers might trade Nick, but that is the first I have read about any trades.

But I am in favor of trading him.


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The real question is why they even re-signed this clown in the first place. I was against it last year, and people came out in full support of him. "He can get his own shot, he can be a key piece of the team moving forward." The guy is a joke, the Swaggy P persona has lost its luster. Giving him a 4 year deal, I mean what the heck are you thinking? The guy will never play on a team that wins anything. Another brain fart by the lakers front office. I have a feeling that was Jeanie's call.


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Axle wrote:
I have never seen anybody so negative towards the Lakers front office like Gem. No faith at all that they could trade Swaggy P.

The thing is that I am not sure if they really want to trade him. Medina is the one reporting that the Lakers might trade Nick, but that is the first I have read about any trades.

But I am in favor of trading him.

That's because I've seen baffling move after baffling move and I'm not a person who is unfair but what have they really done to inspire confidence? I've mentioned the good moves that I felt they've made in here. But just doesn't compare to the bad ones. I can either start acting fake and start saying how I think they'll turn it around or I can give my true opinion.

I said very early on how it was a mistake to sign Nick Young to that deal. Believe me when I say hate feeling that anything I say seems to be negative but some of this stuff is crazy. Why sign a 28-29 year old one dimensional player who has been inefficient his whole career?

It's hard to trade a player that no one really wanted to sign. Niw a team has to really want him and his inefficiency at three more years at 4-5 million per year. I don't have much faith in them trading him but I sure hope I'm wrong.


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IhatetheCeltics wrote:
The real question is why they even re-signed this clown in the first place. I was against it last year, and people came out in full support of him. "He can get his own shot, he can be a key piece of the team moving forward." The guy is a joke, the Swaggy P persona has lost its luster. Giving him a 4 year deal, I mean what the heck are you thinking? The guy will never play on a team that wins anything. Another brain fart by the lakers front office. I have a feeling that was Jeanie's call.

I definitely wasn't one of the ones who came down on you. People got so caught up in him getting off his own shot that they didn't realize he wasn't doing anything for his teammates. He's a useless player if his shot isn't falling and his shot was barely falling this year.


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Pretty sure the way the Lakers are going to handle this situation is by not trading Nick this offseason. They need to learn from their mistakes. Don't try to solve every contract problem by throwing in a pick to get rid of your problem. Use that player and try to raise their trade value. Let Young play throughout the season and hopefully he raises his value for a trade at the deadline. Keep in mind that he is still one of the best 6th men out there and a team would be getting him for a nice deal when the cap rises. If we aren't able to trade him without a pick and we keep him for all of next season, then we just took off a year from his contract and raised his trade value anyway. I don't think it is urgent for us to trade Young this offseason. Its not like this guy is a cancer in a championship locker room. Wait around until next season's trade deadline. Some team out there might get desperate and take him.


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Seems like last year everyone told me I was crazy for not wanting to re-sign Young and now everyone wants him gone.


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Last season he was one of the hottest players in the nba, getting three point shots to go in plus getting fouled. There were some managers out there that wanted Nick young and the announcers kept saying it. So if he can get his shots to go down again like he was doing two years back, the Lakers might be able to trade him without a pick. I sure hope the Lakers do not start trading our first round picks just to get rid of a player. After all the tanking the Lakers have gone through, and pure punishment for the fans to watch a tanking team, it would be insane to trade what they have sacrificed so much for.


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I think that his salary is low enough that we don't need to worry about him so much. Certainly not to the degree of having to give a pick to unload him.

low enough cap-wise that is... (cuz I will take 2% of his salary and be overjoyed lol)... especially since we will also have some salary controlled young draft picks as well on the roster


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Nick WAS playing hard and showing passion last year and early this year... I don't know if he changed when Kobe went down, or started to miss games, or maybe when he started dating that celeb-girl... but it certainly seemed as though he lost the fire. Girls can do that to ya, lol... the ol "no girls before a fight" and what not. But he also strikes me as someone who would also be similar to us fans, in that the wins were meaningless, so he didn't put his heart into the games. I heard people on here get mad at players for playing well, but would you rather have them give up, which is what I think Nick Young did, or push harder which is what I think Lin did.

I am not supporting either here, just continuing the discussion with another angle.

I also think that Nick Young needs Kobe around to keep him in line.


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^^^ Nick didn't give up. I'm sure injuries played a part but honestly this mirrors his career even though his percentage has never been quite this low. He'snot the most consistent shooter, he's streaky but he doesn't do much else. Byron Scott wanted him to do more than just gun the ball at a low percentage rate. Any coach should ask that from one of his players.


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The Lakers problem is they have no vision. They see a player have a break out year, everyone else sees it as a possible one off/wait and see, as they should. The Lakers throw money at him hoping lighting can strike twice, which it rarely does. They are really stupid when it comes to contracts, including Kobe's. I can't remember the last time they gave someone a sensible contract. It's nuts really. They have no money sense whatsoever. So they give Nick a 4 year for having one decent year his entire career, but they let Meeks and Marshall et al walk, and get nothing for Pau or DH12, and stand pat on trading Nash, and end up eating his contract. If they were a smaller market team they'd have been sold by now. It's only because they are the Lakers and the team is in a big market and makes money no matter what they can get away with it. But really I am surprised at the lack of criticism against the owners. In this town of all towns, that should be happening, but it's like the media is backing off because it's a Laker town. I mean some pple throw a few lobs their way, but not much really, considering how horrible they've been at choosing players and coaches the past few seasons. And the bad contracts. Just pure mismanagement if you ask me. The day Jimmy and Jeannie took over the team is the day they became a shell of their former selves. Even LTB'ers are mostly 'polite' to the owners. Let's see what they can do etc, even with no visible signs of them having a clue. If this team were in Pittsburgh or Philly they'd be burned at the stake. Vis a vis Nick yes....


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I'd be glad to get Ariza back if possible.


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Odaca wrote:
I'd be glad to get Ariza back if possible.

I wish...Mitch made a mistake letting Ariza go the summer after winning the chip...Although Ron was a better short term choice, Ariza was the better long term selection and I think that we would've still been able to repeat with him the next year. Anyway, there's no way Darryl Morrey would ever trade Ariza for a long-2 loving shooter like Nick Young. They like guys who can consistently hit the 3 so James Harden can wreak havoc driving into the lane...


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Yup another big Mitch mistake. He overpays and keeps who he shouldn't, and let's go and won't pay who he should. Horrible GM.


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Shepherd wrote:
The Lakers problem is they have no vision.

I've been saying this same thing. It left with Jerry and Phil. It also affects the way the team is managed and the game day decisions including lineups. Phil established roles and decided who was best to play that role each game, each quarter and each situation... If you do this arbitrarily, you fail!


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tmike23 wrote:
I wish...Mitch made a mistake letting Ariza go the summer after winning the chip...Although Ron was a better short term choice, Ariza was the better long term selection and I think that we would've still been able to repeat with him the next year. Anyway, there's no way Darryl Morrey would ever trade Ariza for a long-2 loving shooter like Nick Young. They like guys who can consistently hit the 3 so James Harden can wreak havoc driving into the lane...

Wasn't it Ariza's choice to leave? He ended up signing with Houston for the same amount Artest signed for? We got a championship out of it regardless so it wasn't a mistake IMHO.


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Wasn't it Ariza's choice to leave? He ended up signing with Houston for the same amount Artest signed for? We got a championship out of it regardless so it wasn't a mistake IMHO.

In a nutshell the Lakers told Ariza's agent they would pay him full MLE and would likely match any offers others offered. While meeting Morey (Rockets GM) at PF Changs (Talk about fancy lol) Morey told Ariza that the Lakers had just agreed terms with Artest. Ariza was livid, and basically said F it, they don't want me so I will sign with the Rockets.


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tmike23 wrote:
I wish...Mitch made a mistake letting Ariza go the summer after winning the chip...Although Ron was a better short term choice, Ariza was the better long term selection and I think that we would've still been able to repeat with him the next year. Anyway, there's no way Darryl Morrey would ever trade Ariza for a long-2 loving shooter like Nick Young. They like guys who can consistently hit the 3 so James Harden can wreak havoc driving into the lane...

Trevor is an exceptional defender and always fills up the stat line. Great player to have on a fantasy team! Smile


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Forget about Ariza ever coming back. He is happy with the Rockets and let it go. Man this Ariza BS has haunted some LTBers since he left. I believe Ariza by now is probably around 29 years old and will start declining in his game once he hits thirty. FORGET IT!


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Axle wrote:
Forget about Ariza ever coming back. He is happy with the Rockets and let it go. Man this Ariza BS has haunted some LTBers since he left. I believe Ariza by now is probably around 29 years old and will start declining in his game once he hits thirty. FORGET IT!

Thank You!!!!!!


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Yes now it's nothing more than a footnote in Laker lore. I think everyone was so upset he left coz he was the first quick fearless slasher we'd had in a long while, and wasn't afraid to get his own baskets rather than stand around watching Kobe, and played D. Energy guy as well. But yes nothing but a memory now. And an example of how not to run a franchise, how not to treat your players if you want them to come back, and how to make enemies fast.


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I thought Ariza left to Washington not Houston like Tempy said? Wondering how Houston gm met at PF Changs and was livid after finding out Lakers signed Artest. He went to wizards after Lakers. Not sure some of the info people get. Now to offseason and hopefully we get better.


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Axle wrote:
Forget about Ariza ever coming back. He is happy with the Rockets and let it go. Man this Ariza BS has haunted some LTBers since he left. I believe Ariza by now is probably around 29 years old and will start declining in his game once he hits thirty. FORGET IT!

But goooooo Rondo? Did Kobe and many others decline when they reached 30? Some mature and extend their game between 30-35...


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I thought Ariza left to Washington not Houston like Tempy said? Wondering how Houston gm met at PF Changs and was livid after finding out Lakers signed Artest. He went to wizards after Lakers. Not sure some of the info people get. Now to offseason and hopefully we get better.

Please do yourself a favor and go look up Trevor Ariza. He was drafted by the New York Knicks and traded to the Magic for Steve Francis. Long story short he was traded to the Lakers, after that he signed a $33 Million deal with the Rockets for 5 yrs. Traded to the Hornets in 2010, Traded to Wizards in 2012 and Traded back to Rockets in 2014.


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Rheseyj19 wrote:
I thought Ariza left to Washington not Houston like Tempy said? Wondering how Houston gm met at PF Changs and was livid after finding out Lakers signed Artest. He went to wizards after Lakers. Not sure some of the info people get. Now to offseason and hopefully we get better.

Sorry...Double Post.


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userpete1037 wrote:
Please do yourself a favor and go look up Trevor Ariza. He was drafted by the New York Knicks and traded to the Magic for Steve Francis. Long story short he was traded to the Lakers, after that he signed a $33 Million deal with the Rockets for 5 yrs. Traded to the Hornets in 2010, Traded to Wizards in 2012 and Traded back to Rockets in 2014.

He signed with the Rockets as a free agent. Not traded there.


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But goooooo Rondo? Did Kobe and many others decline when they reached 30? Some mature and extend their game between 30-35...

LOL, Please do not even compare Ariza to Kobe. Kobe is a super star. Ariza is a role player. Like comparing apples to oranges.


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LOL, Please do not even compare Ariza to Kobe. Kobe is a super star. Ariza is a role player. Like comparing apples to oranges.

I don't believe that's what he was getting at. Everyone ages differently, some guy's depend on athleticism more so when it fades it shows and shows badly. In the case for Kobe, he has been one of the most skilled players out there, probably of all time. His athleticism faded but the skill was there, same for Nash, Andre Miller, Tim Duncan, Ray Allen and others. One reason I love a good point guard is because passing is a skill just like shooting is a skill and so on. Skills don't necessarily fade, athleticism does. Ariza has worked on his shooting and has proven people like me wrong. I was one of the ones saying he isn't this one guy everyone should be crying over all the time because he got hot during the playoffs. I still don't see the point in crying over him, he and his agent made a decision to ask for 9-10 million which was absolutely ridiculous. Good riddance is what I say but I respect how he has worked on his game and he is a legit role playe.

Will he show a steep decline at 30? Not sure but role players vs Superstar doesn't really factor into it that much. Injuries, family genes skills and type of game is what really factors in when we talk about decline. Kobe is so skilled that he's still a viable player at 36, now the injuries and athleticism are catching up. Unfortunately he will probably be injured again next season. All warriors have to lay down their weapons at some time.


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Unlike almost everyone else, I'm going to stand up for nick young. Young is not there for a 61 loss team. Like Jr smith you put him on a good team off the bench and young will bring it and when he does as you saw in 13-14 his swag makes everyone have better attitudes


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