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The last two months of the regular season used to mean something to the Lakers.

Jockeying for playoff position. Sunday afternoon games on ABC. Anticipation of playoff runs deep into May and June.

Now there's only a handful of games to care about: March 12 versus New York, then two against Philadelphia and two against Minnesota.

The Lakers' only battle left is the one for lottery balls.

They're doing a fine job of being bad enough to keep the top-five-protected pick they owe Phoenix for Steve Nash. The Lakers (13-40) are comfortably locked into the fourth-worst record at the All-Star break and within range of Philadelphia (12-41), Minnesota (11-42) and the Knicks (10-43).

With so many Lakers on one-year deals or in the last year of their contracts, here are the only players you need to study: Jordan Clarkson, Jahlil Okafor, Karl-Anthony Towns, Willie Cauley-Stein and Emmanuel Mudiay.

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I've seen Towns play and I love how he rebounds in traffic, how he goes to block shots and his post game will only improve. He already can shoot which not too many people know. I plan on looking at some of these other players as well.

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Of course if somehow the basketball gods shined on LA, the pick is obviously Okafor but I'm hard pressed between Mudiay and Towns. For me I guess I would go Mudiay #2 and Towns #3.

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I am a bit leery of Mudiay, simply because of the fact he is playing in the China league... isn't that akin to the D-league? Don't washed up NBA players go become all-stars in the china league?

Not just that he is playing in the China league... but why is he? What made him choose to go there instead of stateside college ball?

That makes my choice at #2 is Russell... and actually kinda hoping that even if we got #1, we trade down to get Russell and another asset/player

Plus it seems that Russell is more of the PG who can pass and also score, as opposed to the PG who can score and also pass...

Reasoning of Russell over Towns is that i am also leery of choosing big men for their physical attributes over actual play.

But with all that said... I will be overjoyed for any of them lol, lets have 2 or 3 of them, can we lol

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I posted this on another thread, but I thought I'd put it here also. Just thought I'd post a little something on Mudiay for those that are hoping that the Lakers draft him. Emmanuel Mudiay CBA Player Page Chinese CBA Stats As you can see Mudiay hasn't even cracked the top-30 in PPG in the CBA. Granted he only played 10 games due to injury, but I mean come on. The top 5 players in the rankings couldn't make it in the NBA. Mudiay could be different. He has been compared to John Wall, which isn't shabby by any means. However, he carries a ton of risk IMO. I'd much rather go for a guy in Russell who has played some legitimate competition. No doubt that the injury to Mudiay will hurt him, as he's now being considered a cut candidate by his Chinese team. It'd mean that for the next few months until the draft he won't be playing in any games. All he'll be doing is working out and doing drills. All while the Russell, Towns, Okafor, etc. will be playing against high level competition in the tourney. I'll admit, I haven't seen much of Mudiay to write him off, but isn't that the point? If we were to draft a PG, I feel like Russell not only has the higher floor, but also the higher upside. He has shown the ability to distribute the ball and shoot. So if he were to be drafted by the Lakers, he can play as a pass-first PG or play off ball when Kobe has the ball in his hands. Mudiay to me seems like a Dante Exum type. I'll admit that I was one of those that were saying that we should draft Exum, but I see now that we got lucky. Mudiay, like Exum,....

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I've seen Towns play and I love how he rebounds in traffic, how he goes to block shots and his post game will only improve. He already can shoot which not too many people know. I plan on looking at some of these other players as well.

What I love about Towns also is that he's a pretty good passer. If we were to miss out on Russell, I think Towns has the attributes that can help our team the most. A frontcourt of Towns and Randle doesn't sound too shabby if you ask me.

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I am a bit leery of Mudiay, simply because of the fact he is playing in the China league... isn't that akin to the D-league? Don't washed up NBA players go become all-stars in the china league?

Not just that he is playing in the China league... but why is he? What made him choose to go there instead of stateside college ball?

That makes my choice at #2 is Russell... and actually kinda hoping that even if we got #1, we trade down to get Russell and another asset/player

Plus it seems that Russell is more of the PG who can pass and also score, as opposed to the PG who can score and also pass...

Reasoning of Russell over Towns is that i am also leery of choosing big men for their physical attributes over actual play.

But with all that said... I will be overjoyed for any of them lol, lets have 2 or 3 of them, can we lol

He figured he'd make money as a one and done as opposed to being one and done and being broke and having to go take classes. If he still is taken in the lottery then I can see more kids doing this same thing and I can't say that I blame them.

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What I love about Towns also is that he's a pretty good passer. If we were to miss out on Russell, I think Towns has the attributes that can help our team the most. A frontcourt of Towns and Randle doesn't sound too shabby if you ask me.

Yes, I forgot to list that. He's a really good passer and this kid has the talent to be sort of like Pau Gasol. Okafor has been coached well in the post and is really good down there, Towns is in his first season in the post.

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Yes, I forgot to list that. He's a really good passer and this kid has the talent to be sort of like Pau Gasol. Okafor has been coached well in the post and is really good down there, Towns is in his first season in the post.

That's the reason why I feel like the Lakers should draft Towns over Russell if given the opportunity. Also, as good as Russell is, Kobe will still have the ball in his hands the majority of the time next year. I just feel like big men are harder to come by in the NBA. That's why the Cavs gave up 2 1sts for Mozgov.

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I am all for D'Angelo Russell. Why? Besides the fact that he has a lot of potential to be a go to guy in the league and is a do it all type of player, there's really not anyone the Lakers could sign in free agency like him. I know Okafor and Towns are great prospects as well, but when there are players like Marc Gasol and Greg Monroe in free agency you take your chances. Monroe is an unrestricted free agent this year and believe the Lakers have a good shot at signing him. A young core of Russell, Randle, and Monroe looks pretty good to me. Plus the Lakers can turn their last 1st round pick into a point guard like Delon Wright from Utah or Tyus Jones from Duke. That right there would be a solid core. Durant would have to at least take a look at the Lakers the following summer right?

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There are a few monsters entering college next year including some guy tamed Taco who is 7'-6" and agile as well carried a 4.0gpa in H.S.. There's also Thon Maker whose stats are similar. In other words, there's gonna be some very skilled gigantic men emerging soon. Keep an eye out for them....

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gemfow wrote:
He figured he'd make money as a one and done as opposed to being one and done and being broke and having to go take classes. If he still is taken in the lottery then I can see more kids doing this same thing and I can't say that I blame them.

Mudiay was the number 1 rated high schooler, even over okafor. Kid did what Jennings did (went for the money ) and he turned out to be pretty good. Not saying he's why number 1 pick for lakers, but if they pick him I wouldn't be mad. 18 ppg, 6 Rpg, 7 apg , ain't bad playing against a lot of former NBA players. Kids a true pg, who looks to get his teammates involved 1st, Kobe should love that!!!! Lol

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There are a few monsters entering college next year including some guy tamed Taco who is 7'-6" and agile as well carried a 4.0gpa in H.S.. There's also Thon Maker whose stats are similar. In other words, there's gonna be some very skilled gigantic men emerging soon. Keep an eye out for them....

Heard them say on espn recruiting that Maker might red shirt or have to come off bench, because he's not ready physically for college basketball.

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Heard them say on espn recruiting that Maker might red shirt or have to come off bench, because he's not ready physically for college basketball.

This is from 18 months ago. He already weighs more than Durant when Durant entered the NBA and he handles the ball like Durant. I'm amazed he's not ready for college.

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This is from 18 months ago. He already weighs more than Durant when Durant entered the NBA and he handles the ball like Durant. I'm amazed he's not ready for college.

Hey I'm just reporting what I saw on espn. They were talking to Kentucky coach about incoming class and he said he has to add weight and muscle to compete with college centers, Might red shirt him.

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Thon Maker does need to put serious weight on for advanced level of ball. But with a few months of heavy bulking and good work outs. He can gain 10-20 pounds.

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I am all for D'Angelo Russell. Why? Besides the fact that he has a lot of potential to be a go to guy in the league and is a do it all type of player, there's really not anyone the Lakers could sign in free agency like him. I know Okafor and Towns are great prospects as well, but when there are players like Marc Gasol and Greg Monroe in free agency you take your chances. Monroe is an unrestricted free agent this year and believe the Lakers have a good shot at signing him. A young core of Russell, Randle, and Monroe looks pretty good to me. Plus the Lakers can turn their last 1st round pick into a point guard like Delon Wright from Utah or Tyus Jones from Duke. That right there would be a solid core. Durant would have to at least take a look at the Lakers the following summer right?

I would think that would be a better idea as I'm with you on the potential free agent bigs like Marc or Monroe, however Marc is most likely staying put in Memphis if he does leave he's not going to come back to the franchise that traded him for his older brother who was treated like crap in his last few years as a Laker. Now look at him. He's STARTING in the All Star game this year.. He could have been the type of player he is now in Chicago. He WAS that type of player in his first few years.. We got to the finals 3 times after acquiring him. Memphis has a great, young and skilled team. He may not want to come to a rebuilding LA team with Kobe's health questionable. We definitely have a better chance at Monroe. Id love Monroe on the Lakers. But if we can draft Okafor, might not need him. But if we. Don't get the first pick, Okafor is going #1 no matter what UNLESS Philly gets the #1, I can see them going after Russell. They already have a good young front court of Noel and Embiid, they would be crowded at the 4/5 positions. It would make a lot more sense for them to draft Russell or Johnson since they already have a PG in MCW and Wroten. They need a SG and/or a SF. If they draft Okafor, they will either trade him or Embiid.

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I would think that would be a better idea as I'm with you on the potential free agent bigs like Marc or Monroe, however Marc is most likely staying put in Memphis if he does leave he's not going to come back to the franchise that traded him for his older brother who was treated like crap in his last few years as a Laker. Now look at him. He's STARTING in the All Star game this year.. He could have been the type of player he is now in Chicago. He WAS that type of player in his first few years.. We got to the finals 3 times after acquiring him. Memphis has a great, young and skilled team. He may not want to come to a rebuilding LA team with Kobe's health questionable. We definitely have a better chance at Monroe. Id love Monroe on the Lakers. But if we can draft Okafor, might not need him. But if we. Don't get the first pick, Okafor is going #1 no matter what UNLESS Philly gets the #1, I can see them going after Russell. They already have a good young front court of Noel and Embiid, they would be crowded at the 4/5 positions. It would make a lot more sense for them to draft Russell or Johnson since they already have a PG in MCW and Wroten. They need a SG and/or a SF. If they draft Okafor, they will either trade him or Embiid.

I can't see Johnson going number one overall. If Philly gets number one overall then I can see them possibly trading down with a top five team to acquire a lower pick and another player. They may even trade it to a team like Boston who has several picks but only if one of Boston's picks are high enough. I think Philly wants a point guard so they can slide MCW over to the sg position. They may go with a sg or sf to keep him at the pg position but I definitely think they're going with a perimeter guy.

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I think you're right on them most likely trading down, depending on what the teams below them have to trade... but they won't want to trade down very far, as they want Russell/Mudiay as their choice it seems.

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Some of these prospects look fantastic. At the start of the college basketball season, I wasn't too high on any of them but Okafor but Cauley-Stein, Towns, and Russel have been really impressive. If we're fortunate enough to get the first pick, I don't see how we can choose anyone but Okafor. He's so polished offensively and he'll be such a headache for opposing defenses. Towns has a lot of potential but in some ways, he reminds me of Bynum. He's probably a 3-4 year project. Offensively, he's still raw but could have the potential to be the best player in this class. Plays a little clumsy but hopefully that changes as time goes on. Cauley-Stein just reminds me of an even more athletic version of Tyson Chandler. He can just go up there and grab a lob and throw down with some authority. He's also great defensively but I haven't seen enough offensively to think that he's someone that the franchise might be able to build around. Russel is just a flat out star in the making. Some of the shots this guy takes and makes through traffic is almost james harden like. Don't know if he's athletic as Russel Westbrook (like some people are saying on this thread but he's definitely a weapon). The only thing about him is that I wonder if he'll impede Clarkson's growth if the franchise is actually looking to groom Jordan Clarkson as someone that the franchise wants to keep.

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Some of these prospects look fantastic. At the start of the college basketball season, I wasn't too high on any of them but Okafor but Cauley-Stein, Towns, and Russel have been really impressive. If we're fortunate enough to get the first pick, I don't see how we can choose anyone but Okafor. He's so polished offensively and he'll be such a headache for opposing defenses. Towns has a lot of potential but in some ways, he reminds me of Bynum. He's probably a 3-4 year project. Offensively, he's still raw but could have the potential to be the best player in this class. Plays a little clumsy but hopefully that changes as time goes on. Cauley-Stein just reminds me of an even more athletic version of Tyson Chandler. He can just go up there and grab a lob and throw down with some authority. He's also great defensively but I haven't seen enough offensively to think that he's someone that the franchise might be able to build around. Russel is just a flat out star in the making. Some of the shots this guy takes and makes through traffic is almost james harden like. Don't know if he's athletic as Russel Westbrook (like some people are saying on this thread but he's definitely a weapon). The only thing about him is that I wonder if he'll impede Clarkson's growth if the franchise is actually looking to groom Jordan Clarkson as someone that the franchise wants to keep.

I have felt the same about the Towns-Bynum similarities... it's the build and the clumsiness (nicely stated as "still growing into his body", heh, what it tells me is that he might end up being an injury victim because of this).

If Lakers don't get the first pick, Okafor... then I hope the Lakers are left with only Russell as their best choice, cause I don't think they will chose him second (Mudiay), or third (Towns)...

So maybe I am hoping they pick fourth, and that Philly isn't ahead of them lol, or any other team that wants Russell.

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I think you're right on them most likely trading down, depending on what the teams below them have to trade... but they won't want to trade down very far, as they want Russell/Mudiay as their choice it seems.

Exactly! Lakers don't have much to offer in a way of trading up unless they're willing to give up Clarkson with their pick or something like that. I wouldn't do it. TheLakers have so many needs that they'll get a good player within the top five. Personally I hope its Towns.

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I don't like Cauley-Stein offensively. I've seen him post smaller players and he can't take advantage. He's best playing the Tyson Chandler Joakim Noah role but Noah is a really good passer which is why he's such a favorite of mine. Personally I like Towns over most of the kids. Okafor is very tempting but like people have said he's polished so he doesn't have much further to go. He looks like he's patterned his game after Tim Duncan. My concern with him is defensively, does he have interest in playing defense? The way Twons grabs boards in traffic is something I like, I don't see that in Okafor and that makes me wonder if he will be like Brook Lopez. I may be wrong, Okafor could end up being like Brad Daugherty who I thought was a very good center, his critics pointed to his lack of shot blocking but he could do it all before his back essentially ended his career in Cleveland. The first time I saw Towns on a Highschool video the first person I thought of was Bynum. That's why I like him. His running up and down the court doesn't seem natural but people keep pointing towards him still growing. His knees don't point inward like Bynum's knees do which is why Bynum had so many knee issues. If Towns grows some more and ends up getting up to 270 then he will be almost a nightmare to guard. He can already shoot with NBA range it's just that not too many people know it. He's come to Kentucky and changed his game and I think it's for the better in the long run. Most one and done....

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Agreed with everything you've said. There's no way of judging who to draft from where we're sitting. So much goes into the draft process that we will never have access to. Like I said, Towns definitely has the potential to be the best big man to be drafted but it scares me when I think about recent big men who've been drafted high only to see them go down with injuries and or ways in which they didn't blossom into the players that the franchises that drafted them would have hoped. The league is so space oriented now that the center position is as invaluable as it has ever been. Especially one that isn't able to hit a consistent mid range jumpshot. However, with all that being said, Okafor's game reminds me so much of Tim Duncan that it's almost impossible not to draft him number 1. He still has room to potentially grow a little taller which could round him out at around 6'11. He doesn't have a rebounding problem. He'll just need to develop that motor to become a much better defensive player.

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Keep praying we get number 1. Okafor can't jump, can't block shots, plays no defense, scores 20 gives up 40 but someone will trade for him. Cousins to LA okafor to kings.

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Keep praying we get number 1. Okafor can't jump, can't block shots, plays no defense, scores 20 gives up 40 but someone will trade for him. Cousins to LA okafor to kings.

Everything you just said was said about Cousins coming out of college. Look at him now. But agree if you get 1st and can trade it for a more finished product in Cousins than do it.

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Cousins is entering his prime and the difference is coming out of college cousins could jump where okafor is a big flat footed slow guy that can't get off his feet to block a shot

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Cousins is entering his prime and the difference is coming out of college cousins could jump where okafor is a big flat footed slow guy that can't get off his feet to block a shot

I agree with you, if you can get Cousins than do it. But don't under value okafor defensively. Cousins wasn't known as a shot blocker either coming out of college.

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Cousins draft report: Strengths: A physical mismatch in almost every sense. Cousins' size, power, length and reflexes give him the ability to do things even when he's not in position to do them ... An underrated athlete, despite lacking great explosiveness, he's extremely nimble and dexterous for such a huge man ... His great hands and soft touch, along with his monstrous (7-foot-6) wingspan, allow him to finish easily around the rim ... His feet are very quick for a player with so much weight allowing him to react to plays very well ... Has a diverse skill set offensively, to go along with great footwork in the paint that makes him much more than just a big body ... Extremely adept at finishing after contact ... Feels he can score almost every time he gets the ball in the post. He can create for himself with a variety of offensive moves whether its facing up or with his back to the basket ... Uses his strength well to overpower opponents and create space to score ... Scores about 16 points, gathers 10 rebounds and shoots over 7 free throws in only 23 minutes per game, showing his efficiency and desire to stay active... He is capable of knocking down mid-range jumpers and with his huge wingspan can shoot it over just about anyone ... Defensively he can block shots from the weak side as well as on the ball due to his length, and dominate the boards at the college level, while eating up more space than anyone on the court... He's a defensive presence even if he just stands there with his hands up protecting the rim ... Although he averages just 1 assist per game, Cousins shows remarkable passing ability and vision for a bigman. Also can handle....

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Agreed with everything you've said. There's no way of judging who to draft from where we're sitting. So much goes into the draft process that we will never have access to. Like I said, Towns definitely has the potential to be the best big man to be drafted but it scares me when I think about recent big men who've been drafted high only to see them go down with injuries and or ways in which they didn't blossom into the players that the franchises that drafted them would have hoped. The league is so space oriented now that the center position is as invaluable as it has ever been. Especially one that isn't able to hit a consistent mid range jumpshot. However, with all that being said, Okafor's game reminds me so much of Tim Duncan that it's almost impossible not to draft him number 1. He still has room to potentially grow a little taller which could round him out at around 6'11. He doesn't have a rebounding problem. He'll just need to develop that motor to become a much better defensive player.

You're correct in regards to space, Stern has really eliminated the big man out the game to a degree. I still believe that a great big man will always be drafted number one over a great wing player. It's just rare to see big men with a legit post game anymore and that could make Okafor hard to guard coming into the league. No matter what it's a gamble when it comes to drafting these kids out of college. I'm just concerned about Okafor being a 21 point and 6 board type player, I can't stand when a center only averages around 6 or 7 boards. It's just a preference of mine that a center snatches at least 9 boards or more.

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I'm not trading the number 1 overall pick for Demarcus Cousins! You guys act like he's Shaq! Just cause he's big doesn't make him Shaq. Shaq's teams were contenders from day 1 while being built around him. Cousins can't even get his team out of the cellar.

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gemfow wrote:
You're correct in regards to space, Stern has really eliminated the big man out the game to a degree. I still believe that a great big man will always be drafted number one over a great wing player. It's just rare to see big men with a legit post game anymore and that could make Okafor hard to guard coming into the league. No matter what it's a gamble when it comes to drafting these kids out of college. I'm just concerned about Okafor being a 21 point and 6 board type player, I can't stand when a center only averages around 6 or 7 boards. It's just a preference of mine that a center snatches at least 9 boards or more.

Okafor is averaging 9.3 rpg right now.

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I'm not trading the number 1 overall pick for Demarcus Cousins! You guys act like he's Shaq! Just cause he's big doesn't make him Shaq. Shaq's teams were contenders from day 1 while being built around him. Cousins can't even get his team out of the cellar.

Nobody's saying he's shaq, but he is one the best centers in the league right now. And I doubt if Shaq would have got this kings team to playoffs with all the coaching changes and player movement they've had since he's been there. And with the way his outside shot has came along you could put him at the 4 if you wanted too.

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You could easily put him at the 4. I think he's just as much a PF as a C if not more. He's not worth a number 1 pick though! I'd trade the number 1 overall pick for Anthony Davis, but not Cousins.

Cousins is immature and said to be uncoachable. If he was as great as people are making it sound, the coaches wouldn't be getting fired all the time.

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You could easily put him at the 4. I think he's just as much a PF as a C if not more. He's not worth a number 1 pick though! I'd trade the number 1 overall pick for Anthony Davis, but not Cousins.

Cousins is immature and said to be uncoachable. If he was as great as people are making it sound, the coaches wouldn't be getting fired all the time.

In the past I would agree with you, but from all I've heard the last year to year and a half, he has matured a lot. As far as coaches getting fired lately with kings, think that's more to do with new owner. But I agree with you about AD, if you could get him with number 1 pick, to hell with Cousins. But earlier I was just agreeing with someone else about Cousins for 1st, what I should have said was if lakers had more of a team to put around him right now than I'd think about trading 1st. Cousins by himself isn't going to get us a championship.

It's early but I do think Cousins is better than any of the 5's or 4's in this draft.

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Cousins or the defensively challenged okafor is the question and we will have a team to put around him. tomorrow trade ed davis and lin and a 2nd rounder for wilson chandler who wants out of denver. then sign dragic who wants to come here. then sign robin lopez.

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lepcitylakers wrote:
Cousins or the defensively challenged okafor is the question and we will have a team to put around him. tomorrow trade ed davis and lin and a 2nd rounder for wilson chandler who wants out of denver. then sign dragic who wants to come here. then sign robin lopez.

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Well if all that happens, than I'd say why not. But don't think Denver is going to trade for a player that can't opt out at end of season and a 2nd rounder. When other teams have already offered more.

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denver might get nervous during the last minutes. now they want to trade lawson cause coach shaw is sick of him. then the rumors that faried isn't liked in the organization. then you hear afflalo wants out. Denver is a mess right now. On the other hand Coach scott and others were joking with jordan hill saying mitch wants to see you lol.

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Watching Duke game and okafor is listed at 6"11, got to be the shortest 6"11 I've ever seen, when center he's playing against is supposed to be 6"9.

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I know that is what I mean. Offensively he is good but defensively he plays small, can't protect the rim, and doesn't even jump to block shots. Of the few blocks he gets he just stands there and someone 5 foot 10 will shoot and their shot just gets a piece of okafor.

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lepcitylakers wrote:
I know that is what I mean. Offensively he is good but defensively he plays small, can't protect the rim, and doesn't even jump to block shots. Of the few blocks he gets he just stands there and someone 5 foot 10 will shoot and their shot just gets a piece of okafor.

You're right, but I meant that he doesn't really look 6"11.

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Okafor still looks like he can flat out score down low. He has been double teamed all night and when they don't he gets right to the basket. Smooth player. Does look more like power forward then true centre

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Too bad we don't have a top 3 pick and 6-8 pick as well. Could take Russell with top 3 and Cauley stein with 6-8 pick. Wishful thinking as we would have randle , Russell , Cauley stein for defence and he can get up and down the floor. Not sure he would be a player in would pick unless I already have the other players.. Tyson chandler clone with more foot speed. Hope we rebuild the right way this time. Add these young players then when the cap goes to 90 million we have boatloads and young guys on rookie contracts. Add 3 max players when kobe retires

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kkennon1 wrote:
Okafor is averaging 9.3 rpg right now.

That's college with nit too many players being 6'11" and 272 pounds like he is. Those rebounds will go down in the NBA most likely. Julius Randle averaged 10 boards at 6'8-9" with the same 30 minute pregame average. Towns averages 6 boards a game in 20 minutes of action per game. I've just read too many things about Okafor's rebounding that leads me to believe he just doesn't have the motor to go after them. Cousins averaged 9 in college and now he's aberaging 12 so I could be wrong indeed.

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gemfow wrote:
That's college with nit too many players being 6'11" and 272 pounds like he is. Those rebounds will go down in the NBA most likely. Julius Randle averaged 10 boards at 6'8-9" with the same 30 minute pregame average. Towns averages 6 boards a game in 20 minutes of action per game. I've just read too many things about Okafor's rebounding that leads me to believe he just doesn't have the motor to go after them. Cousins averaged 9 in college and now he's aberaging 12 so I could be wrong indeed.

I don't think Towns was a good point for your argument. 6 rebounds in 20 minutes equates to 9 rebounds in 30 minutes, the same as Okafor. What impresses me about Towns though is that he averages over 2 blocks in 20 minutes which is more than Okafor does in 30.

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gemfow wrote:
You're correct in regards to space, Stern has really eliminated the big man out the game to a degree. I still believe that a great big man will always be drafted number one over a great wing player. It's just rare to see big men with a legit post game anymore and that could make Okafor hard to guard coming into the league. No matter what it's a gamble when it comes to drafting these kids out of college. I'm just concerned about Okafor being a 21 point and 6 board type player, I can't stand when a center only averages around 6 or 7 boards. It's just a preference of mine that a center snatches at least 9 boards or more.

I just think big men are more of a guarantee as opposed to how much a wing player might be able to contribute. A solid big man will always be a solid big man but you'll never know how a wing player translates to the league unless he's just a freak of nature like LBJ or Durant were. Ya totally agreed. They're risks and it's scary that we don't even know what Julius Randle is going to end up being like. As far as rebounds go, I think Okafor will be just fine. This guy's posted huge rebound games throughout this season at Duke and it isn't something that we should really worry about. He positions himself well and he's a big solid body so that won't be much of an issue. At least, that's what I'd like to believe. I understand where you're coming from though in terms of a center only being able to snag 5,6 boards a game **cough cough B. Lopez**

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TheSHOEMAKER wrote:
I don't think Towns was a good point for your argument. 6 rebounds in 20 minutes equates to 9 rebounds in 30 minutes, the same as Okafor. What impresses me about Towns though is that he averages over 2 blocks in 20 minutes which is more than Okafor does in 30.

Towns worries me, guy doesn't seem to have that competitive drive, disappears in games sometimes.


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