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JJCali
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Season ticket holders are being asked/forced to renew their tickets 2 months earlier than normal. Before draft lottery, draft and free agency. This is scary to me. Seems like the management wants season ticket holders to renew before they let us know what kind of roster we'll be rolling out next season. Could be nothing, but it's scary. Some of you have predicted very few changes for next season. Between Nash refusing to retire and now this, I'm not so sure we won't be rolling with the same kind of squad next season. Management seems to want to get those tickets sold before we find out.

Do you guys think this is a sign of what's to come?

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This tells me they want people to commit to season tickets prior to the offseason and free agency, before we know what the team will look like. Why would they do this? They might be scared that people will not renew their season tickets after they see the squad and the coach we have next season. This makes me nervous!


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Staples is going to be a ghost town next season. With this season as a template of what our front office has in store for the fans, and now this bonehead move, the Lakers are going to lose fans left and right. Everything we have heard from the front office indicates that the Phony is their pony, and they're going to ride him to the end. Why in the world would someone commit to the cost of season tickets with this bunch of goofs in charge of the team? There is absolutely no reason to follow these guys into hell.

It's like the Times Warner deal. They committed to the team, and cut loose with the cash, and this is the season they got in return for their commitment. If you can't see it, and commit to season tickets under these circumstances, you deserve what you get.


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If you do your homework you'll find out that The Lakers are just finally following the league standard, as most teams have much earlier renewal dates. The Lakers, in fact, still have the latest renewal date in the NBA!

Also The Lakers are implementing a new system for upgrading tickets, and the earlier renewal date will give them more time.

"The world is changing, and as it does, so do the way companies, and not just sports teams, do business," said John Black, team spokesman. "We need more time to implement new technology for the upgrade and renewal process, and we're agreeing to the league's demands that we fall in line with all other NBA team renewal deadlines."

There's nothing to see here. The sky is not falling in L.A. The rebuild still starts in a few months at this years draft. Then continues during this summers free agency.


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This is definitely a stance that need to be taken from the fans. Fans need to call their bluff and not renew until things go in the right direction. And if season ticket holders want to go to a game, I'm sure they're rich enough to pay for the closest seats. Right now I don't even think the one's that wanted season tickets when they weren't available want them now. The last thing this organization should start doing is playing hook and snatch with the fans.


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PurpleKnight wrote:
If you do your homework you'll find out that The Lakers are just finally following the league standard, as most teams have much earlier renewal dates. The Lakers, in fact, still have the latest renewal date in the NBA! Also The Lakers are implementing a new system for upgrading tickets, and the earlier renewal date will give them more time. "The world is changing, and as it does, so do the way companies, and not just sports teams, do business," said John Black, team spokesman. "We need more time to implement new technology for the upgrade and renewal process, and....


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Asked and forced are two different things. Nobody has to renew their tickets.. They are almost the last team to put season ticket renewal up for sale. This is not a big deal in any way imo.


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Forced to do it by a certain date. No one said they're being forced at gun point to make the purchase. Jesus.


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A lot of you guys are apologists for our front office. You think everything is ok, and we will have a competitive team next season. If you look at the last 2 seasons, we've seen no improvement. Kobe willed us into the playoffs the year before last, and we were out in the first round. Since then, we trashed Phil Jackson; removed anyone with any history with the Lakers; got rid of the only defensive players we had; made feeble efforts to retain Howard; overpaid Kobe; and brought in a bunch of guys who couldn't get....


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Man... I hate to say it but I think you might be right, Lakerzip. I will still take a wait and see approach. I don't believe many rumors till they happen. But this and Nash saying he's coming back have shaken my confidence.


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As others have said, you don't have to renew your season tickets by that date if you don't want to. You can just as easily purchase season tickets after you see the acquisitions that have been made this offseason. You won't get the same seats of course, but that's up to you. You have the choice. Yes it sucks that you have to renew before the draft, free agency, etc., but it really does make good business sense for the Lakers to do this (as most other teams have already done). They want to get a handle on how many season tickets they have available so that they can better focus their marketing efforts and sell the rest. Besides, if they get a high draft pick and a good free agent or two, those tickets will sell easily anyway.


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It has nothing to do with not having a choice. You guys aren't getting it. It's like Lakerzip said, they want you to commit prior to knowing what's going on. Yes, you still have a choice, but are they doing that because they know they are going to put $hit together again?

Hope you guys are right, that are saying it's a coincidence.


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Computers are wonderful inventions. Do you really think they need more time to distribute tickets? Common - you're justifying again. They should be able to do it within the same time frame that Dr. Buss did for the past 40 years - most of them without computer programs to help allocate tickets. The front office is using the fact that fans won't get as good seats as a form of pressure, to separate the fans from their wallets. It's strong arm tactics. Many of these fans have been on board for 40 years or more. ....


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JJCali wrote:
It has nothing to do with not having a choice. You guys aren't getting it. It's like Lakerzip said, they want you to commit prior to knowing what's going on. Yes, you still have a choice, but are they doing that because they know they are going to put $hit together again?

Hope you guys are right, that are saying it's a coincidence.

Yeah I get what Lakerzip is saying, but like I said you don't have to commit. You can easily not renew and wait to see what develops. Then you can make your choice to purchase season tickets or not.


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In a better world, the Lakers front office would not have made a change that puts fans in this position. Ultimately, a lot of people will probably give up their season tickets because of this BS. It's just not right to put the fans in that position. There is no REAL reason to do so. It's all self-serving crap initiated by our front office to benefit the owners over the fans. The more things that they do, the less confidence I have in them or their approach to running this franchise. The Buss children are bush league, if you ask me. They aren't a chip off the old block. Instead, they've fractured the old block to the point that it is unrecognizable. Dr. Buss had integrity, but I don't see any today from the ownership of this team.

Magic - please come save us from these clowns. Get your partners to buy this team, and rebuild it into what it used to be - fun to watch.


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Yeah I get what Lakerzip is saying, but like I said you don't have to commit. You can easily not renew and wait to see what develops. Then you can make your choice to purchase season tickets or not.

Yeah my bad, I didn't mean literally didn't get it. Not trying to insult anyone's intelligence. But I'm saying I get that you still have a choice. I don't care about that. The fact is they moved up the date to a point before we'll know anything about the team. That makes me think it's more likely out team will suck again next year. Or at least that they are worried about that possibility.

That's what I meant about you're not getting it.


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The Lakers, in fact, still have the latest renewal date in the NBA! So why are we discussing a non-issue? Some of you will use anything to prove your hate for Jim Buss & Co. is justified. Even garbage like this And that's what Plaschke writes most of the time. Garbage. No. Bush league are the fans who don't have no special insight, just hindsight for things that haven't worked out. The Lakers were pointing to the Summer of 2014 since 2011 after the CBA was finalized. That is commonly referred to as direction. Anyone who has any understanding of what the....


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Actually PurpleKnight, I think I've stuck up for the FO more than anybody on this site since I became a member so you are dead wrong about proving our hate for the FO! I started this topic to see if you guys also thought this was a sign they may not make any moves. That is all.


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JJ that's not it at all. I don't mind us bashing the FO. So I'm not calling you out in particular. It's just the pointless bashing just to bash. Yes you posted this. And I can understand your concern. But please realize that Plaschke is doing what Plaschke does best. Stirring the pot.

Are we in a hole? Yes. Like I said the CBA was made to equal the playing field. 2014 has been the plan to rebuild since 2011. Lets hold the bashing til after they at least try to rebuild.


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That is was Plashcke does. And I an definitely holding bashing till after this offseason. So I agree with everything in this last post of yours.

So do you think they are just moving the dates, that is has nothing to do with getting money prior to the product that's put out?


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JJ, The Lakers are implementing a new system for upgrading tickets, and the earlier renewal date will give them more time to get er done


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I hope you're right.


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Me too, hope this isn't Jim buss trying to keep the money flowing, flowing right into his pocket! Lol


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But why do it now? They could have changed it years ago, or next year. That is the suspicious part amigos...convenient timing...


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The timing is suspicious. I personally think their season ticket renewal rates can determine how they approach this offseason.


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Don't forget that if the FO were such penny pinchers as some are worried about they would have traded Gasol, Hill etc.. and would had saved tens of millions.


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Well they did try to. Lol


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PurpleKnight wrote:
Don't forget that if the FO were such penny pinchers as some are worried about they would have traded Gasol, Hill etc.. and would had saved tens of millions.

Who said they were penny pinchers? In fact the attempt to extort $$ from ticket holders is a money grab more than anything. Of course TWC may have been involved in the decision as well. Setting an operating budget, they want to know as well. Esp since the team came unraveled after they bought in. Fans are not the only ones disappointed in the FO I bet.


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PurpleKnight wrote:
Don't forget that if the FO were such penny pinchers as some are worried about they would have traded Gasol, Hill etc.. and would had saved tens of millions.

If I lived in LA, I would be a season ticket holder regardless of the record. But that's just me.


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JJCali wrote:
Well they did try to. Lol

Yes. But only to try to get better. Not to be cheap and save money. They wanted pieces to help with our rebuild.


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No they wanted to cut salary. All that was talked about with Pau is how much it would save the team with taxes etc. Pau was an attempted salary dump.

But no one would take it on, even tho they'd only assume the prorated remaining part of the contract, then it's expiring. I never understood that. It was still too much. Yet he's talked about as one of the, if not the top FA this summer (potentially). Weird.


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Yes. But only to try to get better. Not to be cheap and save money. They wanted pieces to help with our rebuild.

While rumors are just that, rumors. Most of the rumors at the deadline were all about just to shed contracts and save money. Like Gasol to Cleveland for Bynum just to waive Bynum. And there was a couple about Hill for basically nothing.


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Lotta overreacting going on here about the season ticket renewals. I'm a 10 year season ticket holder, going on 11 years once I re-up for next season. The reason we got our renewal packages so early is because the Lakers clinched being eliminated from the playoffs so early. This being the first time in nearly a decade that this has happened, I think people are digging around for theories. In fact, the moment the Lakers typically clinch a playoff birth in previous years, guess what? Us season ticket holders get the playoff order package in the mail right away. The....


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Hey PurpleKnight, Defending this FO must be a lonely occupation? Definitely in the minority. Using injuries as a crutch for the last two years for the Lakers poor performance is pathetic. Blaming D12 because he didn't have the guts to play in LA by this FO, who still to this day are in denial of why he left. All this could have been prevented in 2012. Why would you hitch your wagon to a 39 year old PG with brittle bones and to a center who did not want to come to LA in the first place? Because this FO....


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Well the guy who has held season tickets for longer than anyone else makes it sound like it's the first time.

Maybe he's also just frustrated and looking for something to complain about. But something smells fishy.


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JJCali wrote:
Season ticket holders are being asked/forced to renew their tickets 2 months earlier than normal. Before draft lottery, draft and free agency. This is scary to me. Seems like the management wants season ticket holders to renew before they let us know what kind of roster we'll be rolling out next season. Could be nothing, but it's scary. Some of you have predicted very few changes for next season. Between Nash refusing to retire and now this, I'm not so sure we won't be rolling with the same kind of squad next season. Management seems to want to get those tickets sold before we find out.

Do you guys think this is a sign of what's to come?

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http://lat.ms/1q6iJUH

If I was in the Joe Smith's shoes, or any other expensive ticket holder like him, who drops 400 grand/season on Lakers tickets and I was being forced to commit 2 months earlier than usual, without knowing the roster and the coaching stuff for next year - I'd most definitely sue the Lakers. That's completely fuked up move from an organization towards their most expensive and valuable fans, who finance their very existence. "toxic organization" is very accurate term, to describe current Lakers' management


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I can't believe this subject is being talk about as if it's life or death. Hey all you season ticket holders, did you renew this year knowing Kobe would be back with a bunch of guys getting a 2nd chance? If you did then I would expect no less of a rooster then what we had this year for next year. Either buy the tickets or not and stop looking at every little thing "as a sign".


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the only reason this is an issue is because of the "product". no one would have given this a thought in times past but the FO has lost the trust of its fans. i'm not a season ticket holder, but if i lived in california, i would be on every street corner with my blow horn telling lakers fans NOT to renew UNTIL we see some wise decisions being made.

in my estimation, mitch and jim have every intention of letting mike dantoni coach out his contract and filling next year's roster with more d-league budget players all in the name of "patience". the only thing corporations understand is money...especially losing money. if every laker season ticket holder emailed and called staples center and let them know that they're not renewing sh*t until AFTER they see the product, the FO will get their heads out of the behinds. i hope they don't just plop down the money but stand their ground. people can only do what you allow them to do.


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Ray wrote:
I can't believe this subject is being talk about as if it's life or death. Hey all you season ticket holders, did you renew this year knowing Kobe would be back with a bunch of guys getting a 2nd chance? If you did then I would expect no less of a rooster then what we had this year for next year. Either buy the tickets or not and stop looking at every little thing "as a sign".

Expect no less of a roster? That would be exactly the problem.


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Apollon wrote:
If I was in the Joe Smith's shoes, or any other expensive ticket holder like him, who drops 400 grand/season on Lakers tickets and I was being forced to commit 2 months earlier than usual, without knowing the roster and the coaching stuff for next year - I'd most definitely sue the Lakers. That's completely fuked up move from an organization towards their most expensive and valuable fans, who finance their very existence. "toxic organization" is very accurate term, to describe current Lakers' management

Sue them for what exactly? It'd be Just another frivolous lawsuit in our already frivolous lawsuit filled judicial system. lol.


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the only reason this is an issue is because of the "product". no one would have given this a thought in times past but the FO has lost the trust of its fans. i'm not a season ticket holder, but if i lived in california, i would be on every street corner with my blow horn telling lakers fans NOT to renew UNTIL we see some wise decisions being made. in my estimation, mitch and jim have every intention of letting mike dantoni coach out his contract and filling next year's roster with more d-league budget players all....


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zheck13 wrote:
the only reason this is an issue is because of the "product". no one would have given this a thought in times past but the FO has lost the trust of its fans. i'm not a season ticket holder, but if i lived in california, i would be on every street corner with my blow horn telling lakers fans NOT to renew UNTIL we see some wise decisions being made. in my estimation, mitch and jim have every intention of letting mike dantoni coach out his contract and filling next year's roster with more d-league budget players all....


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How is it that you know they're not planning on doing anything? Are you inferring this just because they moved the renewal date up? Now I'm not a season ticket holder, but I will have some patience and let this FO do whatever it is they have to do. It's kinda funny how people are clamoring for the Lakers to do something (trade/sign Melo, Love, Lebron etc.). I only wondering how many of these people are the ones that chastised the Lakers FO for trading for Nash and Howard. As I've said in another thread, those moves are good moves at....


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Agree. Same with buying merchandise, and giving up 246 hour of your life to watch a season's worth of games on tv. If the ratings drop, and season tickets drop, pressure would be brought to bear. And they'd suddenly be more responsive to a fan base, without whom they would have no business. That said, they may just be too lame in any case. Only time will tell. But in the meantime I have better ways to spend my time then watching a D-League team suffer loss after loss by 20+ pts to the likes of Minnesota etc. In fact....


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JJCali wrote:
Those were good moves. The people that are clamoring for us to make more moves are typically the ones who liked those moves. The ones that hated those moves are usually the one on here saying they want a slow rebuild.
Sorry, I don't like those moves nor do I care for a slow rebuild. I just want hope that there is a future for the Lakers in this town. I don't care for the Clippers, but the sight of them punking the Lakers for 50 points just doesn't sit well with the Lakers faithful like me. Jimbo was....


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Ray wrote:
I can't believe this subject is being talk about as if it's life or death. Hey all you season ticket holders, did you renew this year knowing Kobe would be back with a bunch of guys getting a 2nd chance? If you did then I would expect no less of a rooster then what we had this year for next year. Either buy the tickets or not and stop looking at every little thing "as a sign".

Very well put I must say.....


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This is where the real Lakers civil war is happening. Some of you believe in the Lakers so much that you're not seeing things objectively, and you defend the bad actions of our front office, no matter what they do. The other side sees the actions of Jimmy Boy as traitorous. Yes, folks, we are evenly divided. Tank vs. Win. Lakers Nation is not united behind its team. And until our front office gives us something to root for, it will be easier and easier to buy season tickets for those of you who want to....


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lakerXpeat wrote:
Sorry, I don't like those moves nor do I care for a slow rebuild. I just want hope that there is a future for the Lakers in this town. I don't care for the Clippers, but the sight of them punking the Lakers for 50 points just doesn't sit well with the Lakers faithful like me. Jimbo was nowhere to be seen that night and Cupkake had the look of a deer in the headlights. This is a Lakers town and the way this FO has handled these last two seasons, leaves me to believe they don't....




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