King Kobe Speaks on Buss and Rebuilding. As in NOW! (P. 2)

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JJCali
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He's just answering questions. He already knows the FO is going to do everything they can to win. So he's not saying anything bad about them.

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ihatehpefans,

I read on different sources he unfollowed his teamates after that Clipper loss. Is it true? I don't know. That's what the artticles said. If he did, then the message was clear.

As to being a baby about it? I would say this: the only baby if he did it was Kobe. That is something a 12 year old pissed of kid would do. It's pathetic. I personally don't care. He can do what he wants.

If he did it after that Clipper game and he was trying to send some message, I will say this: the only message he sent is he needs to grow up. I am sure the reaction of his teammates to this was a laugh and the same thought.

If he did unfollow them after the Clipper game as I read.

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The main difference between magic Johnson and Kobe mamba is:

Magic who is a die hard laker is also a true basketball connoisseur. Like a true champion and role model he applauds the clippers and the heat and praises Lebron and Blake without any preconceived bias. Then you have this mamba taking cheap shots at the clippers by saying "I know how it feels to be a clipper fan." Absolutely disgraceful, classless and a true example of a degenerate! Definitely not befitting a leader of a team.

Like the old cliche goes: Game understands Game....Class acknowledges class.........

And at the same time crap gravitates towards crap!

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http://www.hoopsrant.com/kobe-unfollows ... ow-system/

If you look at who he follows which right now is 38 people it's just random fans. And he constantly resets it to 0.

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All i can say is this, when the ENTIRE basketball world including the media entertainment analysts journalists foes and fans are saying the SAME thing, that kobe and magic are 1000% in speaking up for the team they love in trying to prevent this utter disaster from going down and speaking up to get this franchise back on the right track, it becomes almost pointless to have this conversation. The ONLY people in all of the universe that have a problem with this are the people who bash kobe on this site. I'm at a loss.

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an interesting read regarding PJ going to NY

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... everything

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ihatehypefans, I checked into it as you requested. It is his system so I would retract my earlier comments about what he did. In the two contemporaneous articles I read, they just said he unfollowed his teammates after that loss which I thought was a ridiculous action by him. Listening to Russillo right now on ESPN radio and he was talking about the Kobe rant which of course is very big news in today's media. He made some comments I agree with. He said Lakers fans are just wallowing in this mistaken idea that if Dr. Buss had not died, Phil Jackson....

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Kobe really just needs to focus on healing. That's all. Nothing more. Saying he isn't patient is funny, seeing that his contract is going to force the team to do the very thing he has NONE of....patience. A quick rebuild is not going to push this team into championship contenders, because we really don't have a lot to work with (eg players for trades). And for those who says what is Kobe supposed to say when he ask questions about the team? How about nothing! How about I have no comment at this time, I would rather just spexk about me being done for the season.It has nothing to do with being a company guy and going against what Kobe stands for....being competitive, but wisdom SHOULD tell you to keep this in-house and TRY to work something out with the FO. I felt Kobe could have hashed out any concerns without bringing up what he wants....because a rebuild "NOW" is exactly why the Lakers are in this position they are in now.

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SPQR,

I did not mean to make it seem like I was calling you or anyone a baby. I apologize.

I do agree that Kobe shouldn't be so quick to take to the media and rant. As a competitor and a winner he believes he can still get the job done. So natrually he wants the FO to do whatever it takes to build a contender around him. While we can all vary on our opinions on if this is possible, I wouldn't fault kobe for his human nature as winner to expect excellence.

As for calling out the FO? I agree after taking that huge extension Idk how he sees that we can go all in this summer and all of a sudden be a contender. Maybe he thinks him, Melo, a cheap contract gasol, and a draft pick can get the job done? Or maybe its a PR move where he is trying to show LA fans that he expects to win and there is "hope" that they can win in the near future. Maybe in a time where laker fans are doubtful and unhappy Kobe feltl like he needed to say something as the face of the franchise? Maybe he's pissed that Phil jackson is going to New York? Idk.

However, there were two points that he made in his rant that I'm sure even you can be happy with. He said that the FO needs to get their act straight and that Jeanie and Jim need to work things out. We will not be a successful franchise if those two siblings don't get on the same page. Second, Kobe basically said that Dantoni shouldn't be the coach. So for these two points, Kobe represented the wants and needs of the laker fans and the laker franchis

e so for those two points alone, I am okay with his rant.

As it pertains to his point that he has no patience and we should go all in this summer, I agree with you shutup Kobe. Kobe you are right, your job is to play and you are being paid 48 million to do it, but dont expect that we can turn this all around in one summer.

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Ihatehypefans,

I didn't think you were calling me out. You were right about the unfollowing thing. I didn't pursue that story after I read the first accounts because to be honest, I didn't care about it. That was why even though I thought what he did was stupid (when I had just read those first accounts that day) I didn't even bother to post on it here. No problems.

I do agree with you about the FO and it's structure. I agreed with Kobes remarks there. Not just the structure, but competence itself. Jim and Jeanie can't be talking in the media and tweeting (well Jeanie I guess since she is the one doing it) about their differences and what each thinks should have been done. That is a nightmare and a soap opera. And by competence I mean, if Jim is not capable of running a team, he needs to hire a good GM (if Mitch can't do the job either) good scouts, good FO personnel and just step back and let them make the decisions and do their thing.

There are many, many good sports owners who understand they cannot micro manage their teams. That they simple are not smart enough in that area to do it. So they hire people who can and let them do it. That takes the ability to swallow your ego. Some owners can't do it. Jerry Jones is the obvious example in the NFL. This guy just has to run everything that happens, including all personnel decisions, trades, draft choices and coaching hires. And because he is not capable of doing this, the results are not good.

It is a scary lesson for us that if Jim Buss is like minded, if his ego is as large as Jones' what could be our future.

If as Kobe says, the FO and ownership does not get their house in order, we are in big trouble, not just now, but for the future.

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THats the one thing I agree with you on , SPQR. I was also listening to that. In fact DR Buss is the one who decided to go with MDA over Phil! Why do people act like he was this perfect guy who won a title every year. If you blame Jim for that, which I thought was the worst decision he has made until I found out it was t him, then you should really be blaming Dr. Buss for the state of the Lakers. Not Jim.

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LOL the one thing that doesn't make any sense, is that you continue to say Kobe blasted the FO. He did no such thing! He never said they weren't doing a good job. He never said anything negative about anyone. He said he would have patience for sucking again, something that we all already knew. He just reiterated that we are not going to suck again next year. That we are not going to do things the way that SPQR and many other fans on LTB want us to which is to just keep sucking and relying on the draft.

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Paraphrasing here:

Asked the question are you ok with patiently rebuilding the team and sucking next year he answered. No! Absolutely not. I expect to compete next year.

Asked how to rebuild that Lakers culture of winning he said, that's starts at the top with ownership/management then next to the coaches.

Asked about how he felt about the losing he said, I hate it. When I come to the arena I want to kill everybody. No one is more hurt by this than I am.

..... Um, literally perfect answers from a superstar. Culture obviously starts at the top with any business. He hates that his team is losing and he expects to be a competitive team next season. That's exactly what I want from him!

Good day. There's nothing worth arguing about here. The media is acting like its a rant and trying to turn it into a negative. When it was all extremely positive.

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JJCali,

Sometimes in life you have no choice, as Kobe and lots of fans here will find out the hard way. We will not contend for a ring next year no matter what the FO does, short of getting Lebron.

Kobe is clear he wants action. No amount of action will win us a title next year. I don't want us to suck, as you say, but for a change I do want this FO to think things through carefully and make measured decisions on how to build this team back up. That does not include and fantasy championship hunt next year that Kobe and many fans crave.

We mortgaged the future enough already trying to win one now. How do you think we got here? If Kobe and certain fans want to go that route again, fine, but they won't like the results. If they go that route, it just means those fans will still be complaining about this team four years from now as we pay the price for that stupidity. Kobe won't be complaining though, he will out of basketball with his five rings which are all he is going to have.

I would bring up another point. When we signed Howard and Nash, I didn't hear Kobe complaining. Not that we gave up two number ones and two number twos to get a 38 year old player. He didn't complain when we got Howard, a guy who didn't want to come here, on a one year contract, giving up Drew and a number one to get him. The only thing that came out of his mouth was that this was his team. He didn't complain when we hired D'Antoni. He wanted him. He didn't complain when the FO gave him that huge deal that hurt what we could do next year.

But now he says the FO has to do what is required? lol. They did everything he wanted and look where it got us?

We will pay a dear price for all that. We are. So will Kobe. He will have to live with it. So will lots of fans who think this can turned around next year.

The vitally important thing now for this team is not to compound that mistake chasing a dream. They need to get smart and act accordingly.

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JJCali wrote:
THats the one thing I agree with you on , SPQR. I was also listening to that. In fact DR Buss is the one who decided to go with MDA over Phil! Why do people act like he was this perfect guy who won a title every year. If you blame Jim for that, which I thought was the worst decision he has made until I found out it was t him, then you should really be blaming Dr. Buss for the state of the Lakers. Not Jim.

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No one is debating that it was Dr buss who denied Phil the coaching job and went with dantoni. Even Phil himself has said that. Coaching is not The issue. The franchise does NOT need Phil the coach we need Phil the figure and his figure casts a giant shadow of winning greatness championships stability and leadership. which after all is what we used to stand for. Now we're embracing tanking. This is why New York is doing everything in their power to get him. If they lose carmelo that franchise will sink to the bottom of the ocean. Phil is the ONLY person available besides Riley and west that have the pedigree to keep or persuade melo to stay. We have that. We own that. Phil is laker family figuratively and literally. Why are we pushing him into the arms of another team? Phil loves the Lakers. He has said on multiple occasions that he will do anything to help the organization. Why is it SO effing hard to give the man a job to turn this runaway train around?! If we lose Phil Jackson we will confirm to the entire basketball world what Dwight Howard insinuated by leaving. .. the Lakers are no longer the brightest star in the nba. And that We are incapable of keeping our biggest and brightest stars. this is a message that will be to The absolute detriment of this franchise. it has been said that Riley closes out FAs by sliding his box of rings across the table to them .. Phil has 11 of them. IJS. This Is not about coaching. This us about so much more.

And by the way let's not act like Dr buss (God bless his soul) was infallible. He did after all pick dantoni over XI rings as coach.

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Um, I agree with everything you said on that post SPQR, except for the stuff about next year. Of course Kobe didn't complain. They did their job that year. And yesterday he basically said he expects that again. The difference is I think he already knows they will. He just didn't say that yesterday. Because no one asked him that I assume. He just answered the questions he was asked. And I though he did a great job of it. Of course he thinks we'll contend next year. He believes in himself that much, for one, and he most likely already knows that the FO will improve our team. Maybe you are right that it'll take longer. But I don't think he thinks that. I personally don't think that. But I'm not guaranteeing anything.

I respect the thought put into your last couple of posts even if I don't agree with all of it.

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I can't take anything SPQR says seriously. His outlook on Kobe is exteremely biased and his argument points make ZERO sense. He changes up every story to turn it against Kobe. Phil says 'I'd no doubt extended Kobe, just not for the money he got' he sees it as 'screw Kobe. I say let him walk'

Can we like delete all the bullsh!t he posted and just have it be the ACTUAL story? We don't need his rotten opionion being the whole subject of the post , instead of the story! Even the title 'King Kobe'... Like obviously that's him mocking Kobe.

Can't stand this guy. Pretty much the lone reason I don't post much. You give him straight facts and quotes backing up Kobe and he'll still find a way to turn it against Kobe... Hence why his argument points make ZERO sense

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Got mad respect for JJCali. He actually has the patience to argue with him. I personally can't take it. You give him facts and it's like he doesn't read them, or like I said, twists them up to benefit his argument.

Keep it going man. Idk how you take all the crap he says. For me it's seems like arguing with him is like running around in circles.. You're not going to get anywhere and after a while it becomes really boring and repetitive lol

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"I think we have to start at the top in terms of the culture of our team," Bryant said. "What kind of culture do we want to have? What kind of system do we want to have? How do we want to play? It starts there and from there, you can start building out your team accordingly." - Kobe. Interesting words by Bryant. Ownership decided they wanted an uptempo system by the hiring of Toni. D'Antoni runs a pg oriented system. So it was quite evident what the Lakers were trying to do, what system they wanted to play but yet Kobe comes in, slows the game down and plays buddy-ball with Gasol. Kobe went and did what he wanted to on the floor which was wave for the ball at the pinch post which is not the D'Antoni system. So I'm a little baffled by those words of his since the top decided what they wanted to do but Kobe decides to do whatever he wants. "You have to start with Jim," Bryant said. "Start with Jim and Jeanie. How that relationship plays out. It starts there in having a clear direction and clear authority. Then it goes down to the coaching staff. What's Mike going to do? What do they want to do with Mike?" I agree with him, Jeannie has rubbed me the wrong way with her little over emotional BS, tweeting this, that and the other. Dr. Buss put Jim as the head and Jeannie keeps trying to have her fianc� inserted in a prominent role. It's absolutely ridiculous. Also this what are they going to do with Mike comment? Nice! Classic Kobe. "Let's play next year and suck again? Absolutely not," Bryant said. "It's my job to go....

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birna wrote:
Phil is a proven champion with plenty basketball knowledge who may bring contention back to the Lakers, sooner than later regardless of what position he gets. He's married to a Buss and have brought championships to the Lakers before; I would have welcomed him with open arms. To bad Jim would rather be a power head and show that he's not willing to relinquish any authority of his firm grasp on a team that is presumably destined for failure. Changes need to be made... The Lakers are my team win or lose, but god does it suck to watch them lose.

That still doesn't mean he deserves ownership in the team. Give him a high salary, but an ownership stake shouldn't be part of the deal. You're basically spitting on Dr. Buss's grave by doing that. And you can say, "well the man is dead anyways." But anyone who knew how much respect and admiration people had for the man, would be able to see why it would be difficult to go against his wishes.

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LoganHarris23 wrote:
I can't take anything SPQR says seriously. His outlook on Kobe is exteremely biased and his argument points make ZERO sense. He changes up every story to turn it against Kobe. Phil says 'I'd no doubt extended Kobe, just not for the money he got' he sees it as 'screw Kobe. I say let him walk'

Can we like delete all the bullsh!t he posted and just have it be the ACTUAL story? We don't need his rotten opionion being the whole subject of the post , instead of the story! Even the title 'King Kobe'... Like obviously that's him mocking Kobe.

Can't stand this guy. Pretty much the lone reason I don't post much. You give him straight facts and quotes backing up Kobe and he'll still find a way to turn it against Kobe... Hence why his argument points make ZERO sense

I feel ya. That's exactly what I remembered when Kobe's words were twisted. When Phil's were twisted the same way.

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Indeed he does have 13 rings, but he also has no experience running a front office. He could be great, but he could also be the worst GM ever. You really think it'd be worth it to give Phil that position, $15m a year, and an ownership stake essentially as a rookie?

ironically fans are complaining about phil (possibly) not getting a stake in lakers ownership, blaming jim buss for it, and jerry buss specifically said and I quote

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Michael Eaves: "There's recent rumor if you will, that there have been negotiations started between the team, you say that is not true, but of that rumor Dr. Buss is talk that an excess of 10 million is the salary that Phil Jackson would request, but also a stake of ownership in the team. Would you be willing to give (phil) a coach stake of ownership in the team?"

Dr. Buss: "ABSOLUTELY NOT"

Michael Eaves: "Why?"

Dr. Buss: "because the Lakers belong to my children and that's the way it's gonna be!"

and that was in regards to phil jackson possibly getting stake in the lakers in 2005, plus 10 million dollars. now we are talking about now, 2014, ownership and it's being reported that he wants 15 mill lol laker fans should be commending jim buss for honoring his late father, the great dr. buss wishes, rather than bashing him for it.

that is also one reason why pat riley didn't get stake with the lakers. there's other reasons dr. buss didn't want phil to get stake with the lakers. another thing dr. buss have said....

"For one thing I was a fan a long before I was an owner. But you know there are certain misconceptions, you know, how many people have really sat in on front office decisions? The answer is the public perception of what occurs and what actually occurs often times is very different."

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The Lakers belong to the Buss Family ... And that's

the way it is...

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Kobe is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't, Kobe did not say anything wrong in the interview, people are making a big deal out of nothing!!!!! I know Kobe is not perfect and has made some mistakes, hell who hasn't but the criticism he gets is just plain crazy to me sometimes. I've bled purple and gold now for almost thirty years so I'm not just some Kobephile fan. The guy has done nothing but play his a** off this organization and I feel like some you so call Laker fans are just being ridiculous with some of your comments towards Kobe over really nothing sometimes!!!

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^^^^ Over saying he wants the team to do good. LOL

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KING90813 wrote:
Kobe is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't, Kobe did not say anything wrong in the interview, people are making a big deal out of nothing!!!!! I know Kobe is not perfect and has made some mistakes, hell who hasn't but the criticism he gets is just plain crazy to me sometimes. I've bled purple and gold now for almost thirty years so I'm not just some Kobephile fan. The guy has done nothing but play his a** off this organization and I feel like some you so call Laker fans are just being ridiculous with some of your comments towards Kobe over really nothing sometimes!!!

Say it brotha!!!!!.....LOL!!!!....Preach!!!!

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^^^^Much appreciated userpete I don't get to post here as much as I would like to but I have enjoyed your posts over the time along with a few of the other logical thinking Lakers fans on this site

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Seems like a from the heart interview. Kobe sees what we do, and he's called a spade a spade.

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There is only one direction to move and that is up. Now Kobe could have implied championship or bust next year, but I think for all intensive purposes he was saying we should be moving back to contention form and at least get in the playoffs. Otherwise what is the point of playing. I think he should bite his tongue on the leadership of management, but he has every right to think they should improve. The question is how much and how fast. We aren't going to win next year, but maybe the following.

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KING90813 wrote:
^^^^Much appreciated userpete I don't get to post here as much as I would like to but I have enjoyed your posts over the time along with a few of the other logical thinking Lakers fans on this site

No problem and thanks.

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Report: Kobe Bryant has 'no interest' in playing for D'Antoni next season

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bas ... ext-season

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glad to have a personality like Kobe who will say what he thinks to be right no matter what. people should appreciate this rather handling him with irony

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It's not entirely out of the realm of reality to have a strong off-season and rebuild for next year. Let's assume for a moment that we're able to sign both Bledsoe and Monroe (Bledsoe seems highly unlikely although I think Monroe is a real possibility given that Detroit needs to put Smith at the 4 and stop kidding themselves). If we sign those two guys, bring back Gasol (yes) and hire a new coach while retaining some bench guys we'd have a solid team next year.

Bledsoe

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Gasol

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Beldsoe

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Monroe

Gasol

While that team won't win a title in it's first year together there are some real nice pieces there that could be cornerstones on the team for years to come. Not saying that this would happen, but it's an example of being able to reload this off-season. Of course I also understand people wanting to wait for Love in 2015.

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Where can I find this guy in the KFC commercial that keeps saying "pot pie"? I want to hit him.

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Glad to start seeing that everybody heard the interview and took it for what it was and is not trying to make something else totally out of it. Smh, sometimes it's mind blowing that people can hear the same exact thing as everyone else and then claim it meant something totally different.

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Kobe might actually kill Nash.

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I don't remember exactly what Kobe said when he signed his 2 year extension but didn't he say something along the lines of lakers have a plan etc...? I don't think we'll be contenders next season but I have confidence in Mitch and think we'll at least reach the playoffs

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Yes. Kobe knows the plan.

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It was a breath of fresh air to see Kobe tell it like it is - from the perspective of a guy who loves to win and hates to lose. That won't change. It's deeply embedded into his personality. I think Kobe has watched enough losing this season. He wants the team to win. Now, let's see what is going to happen during the off-season.

I found it fascinating - the talk about trading the draft pick we will get at the end of this season for Love. If we could get an extension on Love's contract beyond his current one, we may have something there. It's time for our FO to cut loose with some of their cash - pay the damned taxes, and bring us some committed defensive players.

Watching Kobe and Love work together would be pretty rad. I'm not enamored with Melo - I think he's too offensive and not defensive enough. But it may be worth bringing him in too, if it gets rid of the Phony. But I would rather bring in someone like Tyson Chandler, who can really defend the paint. Without a credible defense, we will not win a championship. Our FO got $3 Billion from tv revenues - spend some of it on talent already!

Kobe is thinking straight, and is still the Mamba. I loved hearing him express his feelings about this season. He sees what has happened to our Lakers just like we do. We all love this team, but want it to play up to expectations, not to crap out early and never even see the playoffs. This season will be a lowpoint (hopefully). I seriously hope that Kobe's talk impacts the FO, and they get it together. He can only do so much!

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So with Phil officially with the Knicks it brings a breath of fresh air. With Phil it means no Melo. That Is means we save and put whatever chips we have left on the table for Kevin Love.

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Well said, Lakerzip.

Lol Caliguy, the Melo talk will only rev up once the season ends.

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Lakers could also still do a sign and trade with pau. I think it would have to be for draft picks because the new CBA forbids sign and trades if you're over the tax. Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.

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MAGICLAKEZ wrote:
The main difference between magic Johnson and Kobe mamba is:

Magic who is a die hard laker is also a true basketball connoisseur. Like a true champion and role model he applauds the clippers and the heat and praises Lebron and Blake without any preconceived bias. Then you have this mamba taking cheap shots at the clippers by saying "I know how it feels to be a clipper fan." Absolutely disgraceful, classless and a true example of a degenerate! Definitely not befitting a leader of a team.

Like the old cliche goes: Game understands Game....Class acknowledges class.........

And at the same time crap gravitates towards crap!

That's a bit extreme don't you think? I thought it was kinda funny what he said. And a bit tongue in cheek. Kobe doesn't "explain" his dry sense of humor and pple often don't get it. I'm the same way so I know how that goes. And hey it's competitive sport so why not throw a few clever jabs out there. Say what you want about Magic, he's not a player anymore, and when he was playing he wasn't handing out compliments. He was a full on trash talker on the floor. It's different after you're retired and doing TV work. On top of that, was Kobe wrong? No! The Clips fans endured long and hard many bad seasons. So he was saying he knows now how they feel. He was speaking the truth and making a joke and a bit of a dig against the cross town rivals all at the same time. That's how I see it. And I think it's fine, and not classless or whatever at all.

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You are probably right! I don't know what to make of it anymore. It's confusing sometimes, cause on one hand he implies that he wants to kill his teammates. I never heard magic/Kareem or the more contemporary stars like Lebron, KD wade ever say such things like killing everyone. So I guess I need to be up to speed to catch some of those high octane zingers. Lol

Shepherd
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I believe he was being facetious. I wouldn't hang on the guy's every word. He's using whatever limited means he has to try and motivate pple. LBJ and KD et al have not had to endure what KB is enduring atm. They've never been on a team with 19 wins. So that would be why you've never heard them say that. I'm pretty sure he won't take an AK into the locker room and shred the team.

But, just in case, they should probably increase security lol.

BaadMaster
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zheck13 wrote:
...The franchise does NOT need Phil the coach we need Phil the figure and his figure casts a giant shadow of winning greatness championships stability and leadership. which after all is what we used to stand for. Now we're embracing tanking. This is why New York is doing everything in their power to get him. If they lose carmelo that franchise will sink to the bottom of the ocean. Phil is the ONLY person available besides Riley and west that have the pedigree to keep or persuade melo to stay. We have that. We own that. Phil is laker family figuratively and literally. Why are we pushing him into the arms of another team? Phil loves the Lakers. He has said on multiple occasions that he will do anything to help the organization. Why is it SO effing hard to give the man a job to turn this runaway train around?! If we lose Phil Jackson we will confirm to the entire basketball world what Dwight Howard insinuated by leaving. .. the Lakers are no longer the brightest star in the NBA...

That is why I am so disgusted with Phil (likely) leaving. I won't believe it or act on it until I see the signing ceremony and the deal is done, done, done.

It is hard for me to believe that Jimbo, after losing D12, will allow the crown jewel of the organization to go to the opposition -- and watch Phil fight us for free agents!

But zheck13 has it 100% right. It is more than just about losing Phil. It is about the perception of the Lakers as the pre-eminent franchise in the NBA. I bet all the other owners are doing a dance as they watch the Lakers ship sink!

BTW...it seems a press conference is scheduled for Tuesday. So you will have me to kick around until then. Unless it is to say Phil is back with the Lakers.

I might add one more thing to zheck13's salient points.

Read http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/knicks/2014/03/10/phil-jackso n-should-new-york-front-office-james-dolan-carmelo-anthony/6271009/

and you will see we will be fighting Phil for KLove. Uggh. So Kevin is far from a done deal now. That is why if Phil goes, I go! I don't want to stay around for that.

IhatetheCeltics
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Whatever they do, they better NOT trade that draft pick. I will absolutely lose it. Read an article by Pincus on how they should consider trading their lottery pick for Kevin Love. smh. Who's to say Love will come here, decide he doesn't like it, and then leave just like Dwight did. Except instead of losing Dwight, we will have lost a future young stud along with Kevin Love. Idiotic thinking Pincus.

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The only way that the Lakers could trade the draft pick is if Love agreed to an extended contract - and I would not be opposed to that kind of deal. It's a certainty, vs. a maybe. Love is a great guy and a great player. Just what the Lakers need - AND HE PLAYS DEFENSE!


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