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The Los Angeles Lakers stunned the NBA when they hired former Nuggets, Suns and Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni to lead the team on a full-time basis 10 games into the 2012-13 season. D'Antoni's candidacy and ascension weren't exactly stunning; he was the 2005 NBA Coach of the Year and the head coach in Phoenix when Laker guard Steve Nash won MVP trophies in 2005 and 2006. Rather, it was his selection over two-time Laker head coach and 12-time (including playing career) champion Phil Jackson as Laker sage. Jackson had seemed not only fit for the job, despite the uneasy circumstances following....

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Here is the full story... In Jeanie Buss' updated memoir "Laker Girl," written with former Times sportswriter Steve Springer and published by Triumph Books, she writes about the firing of Lakers Coach Mike Brown last November. In this excerpt Buss, head of the team's business operations, describes the whirlwind weekend after Brown's firing when her fiance, former Lakers Coach Phil Jackson, talked to the front office about returning as coach. Ultimately, her brother Jim Buss, head of player personnel; General Manager Mitch Kupchak, and her late father and Lakers owner, Jerry Buss, decided to hire Mike D'Antoni instead of Jackson. I first heard....

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Jeannie needs to be quiet. This isn't helping.

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great all we need is the family blowing up and the FO in greater trouble than it already is. stupid Jim buss. Also what are people talking about the site geting all anal on fixing spelling errors? ?

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shut the **** up and just do something rather than sit and done nothing for the team.

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she needs to take the reigns and get her brother out asap.

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ralppcobarde wrote:
shut the **** up and just do something rather than sit and done nothing for the team.

Thing is, she absolutely can't do a single thing about it since she has no say in basketball decisions. She alluded to the fact that her dad wanted Jim to be in charge of the basketball operations and Jeanie be in charge of the business side. It seems she is holding resentment towards her dad for not giving her any kind of decision making power on the basketball side and it bothers her a lot.

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she needs to take the reigns and get her brother out asap.

Why is that? People assume this and that about jim, talk down on him but What has jeanie proven for you to make this statement?

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Why is that? People assume this and that about jim, talk down on him but What has jeanie proven for you to make this statement?

are you playing devil's advocate or are you saying you have more faith in Jim then Jeanie? the question you should ask instead... what has Jim proven to me to make this statement.

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Here are my thoughts:

1) Jeanie should not have published this unless it is a part of a coordinated plan to get rid of her brother or sell the team. She isn't dumb and knows that this is REALLY pouring fuel on the fire of Lakers fans. I hope that she doesn't think that THIS will blow over any time soon. All we will hear on sports talk radio is Lakers fans continue to slam Jim, which is NOT a healthy thing for Lakers Nation.

2) Interestingly, Jeanie is as much in the dark about the truth regarding who made final decisions as we are. I suppose we'll never know the answer to that.

3) Jim is the one who acknowledged to Jeanie that they need to communicate better. Because Jeanie is as too much a slave to her emotions as most women (as she admits in this piece), she apparently wants no part of improving her level of communication with her brother. She uses the excuse that her father set things up to be run this way, but in reality, that will never work. Dr. Buss is as much to "blame" for leaving the Lakers in this situation than anyone. His love for his children trumped his savvy business sense and vision in the end.

�4) The Lakers, for all intents and purposes, have become a public trust. For the benefit of their global fan base, the Buss children should sell the team. Based on this piece by Jeanie, I no longer believe that she is competent to run the organization by herself. She is too emotionally involved and this is a business. Unlike baseball, I can't say "there's no crying in basketball," but from where she sits, there shouldn't be.

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Could it be that Jeannie was simply thinking with the wrong head?

Dr.Buss is not dumb and probably did this for a reason even though no one knows what that reason is. Time will tell I guess.

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it doesn't matter if Jim was appointed on the basketball side and she is on the business side. what bothers me a lot is that Jeanie herself has the power to cooperate with Jim and the team. after all she is still a legitimate son by Dr. Jerry Buss. another thing that bothers me is why the heck does the basketball side has the upper hand on business side on Jeanie? both sides are business and without finance i don't think you can create a basketball team. all in all, Jeanie has the edge over Jim and has the right if she can atleast give advices on the basketball side. that is not the case for her since she always stabbing his own brother and family on the media. she needs to shut up,put up and give us a team that has been a winning team in the league. she needs to stop pouting and give us a competitive front office from now on.

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I can totally understand Jeanne's feelings. Is there a person in Los Angeles that doesn't believe that the best possible team to run the Lakers is Phil - selecting talent, and Jeanne, running the business side?

Right now, we don't have any big draw on our team. PJ would be a guy people would want to work with = a reason to sign with the Lakers. Let's face it, the best players aren't interested in coming here, because they have no confidence that anyone here knows how to put together a winning basketball team. If you can't offer them immediate money, can you give them the ability to play for Phil Jackson? That just may be what is missing right now.

There is no doubt that we need a big draw of some kind. There is nothing special about coming to the Lakers right now. What can we offer, other than high income taxes, high sales taxes, and high real estate prices? Right now, we're just another team in the NBA. Why would a great player want to sign with us? To play for D'Antoni? How about Jim Buss?

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are you playing devil's advocate or are you saying you have more faith in Jim then Jeanie? the question you should ask instead... what has Jim proven to me to make this statement.

I asked a specific question to the statement you made.

But in response to what you just typed: Why wouldn't i have more faith in Jim than jeanie? I have the most faith in jerry buss and that was his selection. What have jeanie proven to say otherwise?

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Big problem in LA and its part of the process of this once great franchise slowly going downhill.

Jeannie:

It seems to me that Jeanie and Jim aren't all that close. Maybe dear old dad wanted to bring them closer and felt that them running the Lakers would be the way to do that. Jeannie just showed me she's just too emotional to run a team. You're crying hysterically at a gym because your boyfriend wasn't hired for the job? Get the hell out of here with that childish BS and she's over fifty which makes that worse in my eyes. Maybe it has something to do with her dad recently passing. To bring this forth in a book though? She clearly has taken cues from Phil Jackson in regards to throwing personal business out for the masses to read.

Jim:

Clearly Phil's undoing was when he wanted input on personnel decisions. Jim is not willing to do that imo. Jim seems to be impulsive because he said hiring Brown was a mistake but how did he come to ascertain that? Preseason record? Starting 1-4? So, what does the braintrust of Jim and Mitch do? They hire a coach who doesn't believe in post play. Phil called it correct on two things, the firing of Brown wasn't right because it wasn't enough time and D'Antoni was a better coach for Nash, not Howard. Jim, Mitch and Jeannie will take this club to the Randy Pfund era, it's a scary time if you're a Lakers' fan.

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redundant.

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There is one danger for the Lakers, the nine foot gorilla in the room -- the Clippers. Up until now, the Purple and Gold had the luxury of a competitor with no teeth. The Lakers could make mistakes -- the years between PJax I and II -- and fans had nowhere to go. Now, we have a perfect storm. Incompetent FO, a new CBA and the ascendency of the Clippers.

IF the Clippers make the Finals and the Lakers totally tank, I predict the defection rate will be greater than anyone here could have imagined. This is not the 90's; this is an era of bloated ticket prices and few will pay astronomical Lakers prices for a loser when a winner is right across the hall with far cheaper tickets.

Many here predicted that Jim Buss will destroy the Lakers. Now he has help. And that help is the Clippers.

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Six years ago, Jerry Buss sat in his living room and said:�"Slowly I would like to turn it over to Jim to see how effective my strategy is while I'm still alive � and still have time to correct it if I didn't do it right."

Apparently, and unfortunately, Dr Buss didn't still have time to correct.

Interestingly, the one guy who is pushing all the right buttons right now learned everything he knows from Dr. Buss. Pat Riley. Mickey Arison knows nothing about basketball. I'm guessing one of Riles' conditions was that Arison would steer clear of basketball decisions. Like Jimmy should do.

As for the issue that nobody will let die even though Dr. Buss has left us, it doesn't matter anymore. Mistakes have certainly been made, but they were made with him in mind. The run was coming to an end regardless and starting next summer there's a new slate. Some people learn from their mistakes and others repeat their mistakes and make new ones. We will find out which category Jim fits into in about 3 or 4 seasons should he still be around. For any other fan base, that would be acceptable, but it is too long of a wait for Jerry's Spoiled Children. ......Us.

So we will never hear the end of it and Jeanie just had to light another match. Way to go Laker Girl!

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This was Jeanies story. I wonder what Jim would say. And then, what would the truth say? Some thoughts: Jeanies story leaves much to be desired as far as common sense goes. She says Phil did not make any financial demands yet. Implying they would not have been exhorbitant. That is a crock. One thing we do KNOW, if Phil had come back, his contract demands would have been HUGE. They always were and this time, because of the circumstance, even more so. Second, Jeanie says Jim asked for Phils phone numbers? Really? This does not sound logical or true. He worked with Phil for years, yet he didn't have Phils home or cell number? Even after Phil left, his sister, whom he works with, is at Phils house all the time. Yet he doesn't have Phils home or cell number? Really? This seems like a fabrication to make it look more strongly that Jim really was asking for Phil. In fact, I find it impossible that Jim didn't have both Phils cell number and phone number. So why did Jeanie say this? Third, Jim told Phil he was looking at other candidates. And he ended up hiring one of them. So what? All businesses do that. They look at candidates and hire one. If Jim and Mitch and Dr. Buss decided on D'Antoni, what was the point of stringing things out with Phil? Wouldn't that have been worse? Really showing disrespect to Phil? Knowing he wasn't getting the job, but not telling him immediately? Telling Phil as soon as possible was the right thing to do, not disrespectful. Once they made a decision, that was it. They made one. That was it. Jeanies whole story and attitude strikes me as very tendentious and sketchy. She says things that don't sound true and she complains about....

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Observation #1: This is what often happens when people inherit positions and don't achieve them from the ground up.

Observation #2: Jeannie at least is keeping the Lakers in the news. They sure ain't gonna be in the news for things basketball. I mean, "Lakers sign Chris Kamen" is not of the headline variety. Phil stuff is.

Obervation #3: Sometimes you just break the egg and it cannot be repaired. I think Jim has pretty much doomed the Lakers on every level. Plus he is cheap. These are going to be bad times in Lakerland.

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Man, it would have been nice if this story came out AFTER the summer of 2014. Yet another cancerous 'do not enter' sign for all forthcoming free agents.

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this is not new..We all know this will go into a boiling point somehow... Jim doesn't have to make hard decisions, he just want to be dumb...thats plain and simple..Some people doesn't want to be dumb but Jim wants it...

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Like its a surprise, I want Phil Jackson holding the Lakers also, ... I'd feel a little bit more comfortable with the future of our franchise that's for sure. And I'm pretty sure there are not too many players in the world who wouldn't want to play for Phil.

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Over the long term I'm not sure Jeanie would be better running things than Jim. I mean Jim hasn't proven much of anything, but what is Jeanie's experience? Being Phil's fiance? She comes across to me as extremely emotional, and would most likely make emotional decisions. The exact opposite of her dad. Looks like we have two question marks running things for the lakers.

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the thing Jeanie has over Jim is that she's willing to listen and yield to better experience. she exhibits passion and humility. that's good in my books, and shows more then what Jim has been giving us. the Lakers interestingly are more than the buss family. there are countless others who have helped make the Lakers what they are. Jim going out on his own shows a lack of experience and too much reckless pride.

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Its all ridiculous. Including Jeanies account and her gripe. She sounds like a true LA drama queen.

Jeanie. Jim. Sure makes you wonder about our future.

Blah....

I believe that you may be onto something, Randy.

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Phil is done coaching!! He said so himself. There is abosolutely NO NEED for this. NONE! This does nothing but stir the pot. My perception of Jeannie after this?.....a bitter person. Sounds like she should be mad at her dad and not Jimbo. Business is business. You don't interview candidates for $hits and giggles. Phil would have been a great hire but I don't think that was the position he was after. He wanted a seat at the table so to speak. You can bet your a$$ that if he was hired to coach, he would demand a greater roll as part of management with even greater power. Maybe Jim saw this at the last minuite or heard something he didn't like during that meeting. I'm as big of a Jim critic as most on here but I'm giving him the benefit of a doubt since we won't be significant anytime soon anyway. This is a mess. Thanks Jeannie. Of couse Phil is laughing at all this but staying quiet.

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Anyone still have confidence in how Jeanie would run things in this organization? I don't. Not at all. This kind of public family feuding is absurd, not to mention pathetic.

I didn't agree with the D'Antoni hire whatsoever, but it's abundantly clear that it was in keeping with the explicit wishes of Dr. Jerry Buss just as was his decision to turn basketball matters over to his son Jim. So just shut up and deal with it and quit worrying about your boyfriend/fiance. He can take care of himself. I'm sure this is born out of some very deep frustration, but it's disrespectful and counter-productive on so many levels.

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Jeanie Buss needs to shut her mouth and quit being a chatty Cathy. Airing your dirty laundry in the public helps absolutely no one and will not end well. Things that happen behind closed doors should stay behind closed doors, not advertised for us to all see.

In an obvious ploy to turn us all against Jimmy Buss, she came across as extremely emotional and over dramatic in that article, and I couldn't help but think "Dear Diary," as I read it. I'm not a fan of Jim Buss, but this was just silly and makes her look terrible. I used to want her to be the one that stepped into the Doctor's shoes, but not any more. She sounds like she has more heart and emotion than brain and logic.

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Right now, I think the best thing that is also plausible to happen is for Jim to step away a little and let Mitch run the show. Phil in the FO or on the bench is not going to happen, cause obviouly Jim won't let it. But if free agents get a sense that the team is not run by a spoiled brat and his drama queen sister who fight between themselves, but by a cold-blooded, cool-headed proven negotiator, who never rushes into things and has mastered some of the most amazing trades in recent years (counting the CP3 one, because he had done his part), then they might be more confident that the team is going in the right direction and sign here.

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Anyone still have confidence in how Jeanie would run things in this organization? I don't. Not at all. This kind of public family feuding is absurd, not to mention pathetic.

I didn't agree with the D'Antoni hire whatsoever, but it's abundantly clear that it was in keeping with the explicit wishes of Dr. Jerry Buss just as was his decision to turn basketball matters over to his son Jim. So just shut up and deal with it and quit worrying about your boyfriend/fiance. He can take care of himself. I'm sure this is born out of some very deep frustration, but it's disrespectful and counter-productive on so many levels.

Dan,

I agree with everything you said. Jeanie has done nothing to make me confident she would run this team with any acumen. And her remarks about this issue and Howard poster issue seem to show her as shallow and emotional...even child like. Not the cool, level headed person you want running a enterprise like a sports team.

Lastly, your remarks about boyfriend/fiance seem right on target. Somehow, you feel if she was not sleeping with Phil, she wouldn't have cared one bit about whether he was hired or not.

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What I foresee coming in the next few months, especially if the Lakers start tanking in the season:

The Lakers ownership consists of much more than Jeannie and Jim, includes other siblings and minority share owners of the team.

This group will probably have a vote later to remove Jimmy from his position on the basis that he is detracting from the team.

The Basketball Operations Manager position will be open. The ownership will look for someone internal to fill in the opening.

Jeannie will probably push Phil and I'm sure given Phil's PR skills, he'll stir up a big push using media outlets (twitter and tv appearances).

And the Lakers are always suckers to fanbase approval and will elect Phil Jackson to Head of Basketball Operations.

This will probably all crystallize right before 2014 NBA Free Agency.

Phil Jackson and Mitch Kupchak pulling the strings in the Front Office- need I say more?

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Dan,

I agree with everything you said. Jeanie has done nothing to make me confident she would run this team with any acumen. And her remarks about this issue and Howard poster issue seem to show her as shallow and emotional...even child like. Not the cool, level headed person you want running a enterprise like a sports team.

Lastly, your remarks about boyfriend/fiance seem right on target. Somehow, you feel if she was not sleeping with Phil, she wouldn't have cared one bit about whether he was hired or not.

Agreed. Teams make mistakes. They make horrible personnel decision at times. It happens and you move on. This is not the Lakers I grew up watching and respecting unconditionally. Mistakes or no mistakes, a great FO would act cool, calm, collected, and act like everything was by design.

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SPQR wrote:
I agree with everything you said. Jeanie has done nothing to make me confident she would run this team with any acumen. And her remarks about this issue and Howard poster issue seem to show her as shallow and emotional...even child like. Not the cool, level headed person you want running a enterprise like a sports team.

Lastly, your remarks about boyfriend/fiance seem right on target. Somehow, you feel if she was not sleeping with Phil, she wouldn't have cared one bit about whether he was hired or not.

Randy, as you know, I wasn't for a Phil Jackson re-re-hire either unless it was explicitly for a stopgap 1-year only deal to kind of stop the bleeding (if possible). But where does that get you? Nowhere really. I'd rather have seen something geared toward the long term health of the franchise but that's just rearview mirror thinking at this point. It doesn't pertain to this issue. Whatever was done is done and griping about it now doesn't help.

Jeanie comes across as if Phil is always the answer, regardless of the question. How can that be good? Maybe there's some kind of legitimate role PJ can play with the Lakers, but as we all know he never goes into something in a small way. If Phil somehow comes on board with the Lakers then somebody else, or multiple others surely will have to go.

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As hard as it is to say this because the Buss family is directly responsible for much of the Lakers success. I think that now that the Senior Buss is gone...RIP that the main person who had a vision for the Lakers is also gone.

It might be best to hope that somehow the current ownership decides to sell the team and the Lakers can be purchased by a rich, aggressive owner who's main focus is for the team and its success...and not for drama and power struggles,l or to get their name and face in the paper or on tv.

Jim and Jeanie just reek of power hungry people who want to control everything and take credit when it works and disappear when it doesn't. I always had respect for Jeanie...but I really am not sure why...and after reading this I can see maybe it was an ill conceived or non educated opinion.

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^^^Jeanie is a heck of a lot better looking than Jimbo. Just thought I'd toss that out there.

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The scariest thing about Jim Buss is that he was actually worried about the five million or so he had to waste on Mike Brown. Now five mill ain't chickenfeed, but to the Lakers it is chump change. You never heard Dr. Buss ***** about paying off Dull Harris. Or paying PJax a king's ransom.

Somehow I get the feeling that Jim is just a very parsimonious guy and will try to keep every penny of the TWC money. I feel that he cares as much about winning as I care about **** fighting. Zip. Zero. Zilch.

And that will be the undoing of the great Dr. Buss legacy.

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If I were Jim Buss the smartest thing I could possibly do is hire somebody smarter. That Is not called "I'm not capable" or admiting to guilt or wrong doing., it is just straight out smart business. If there is a man out there who knows championships, has won championships, if its Phil or not, whoever.....u put them on your pay roll and tell them to bring in the banners whatever you got to do. Do high quality star players want to come play for Jim Buss, no....they want to play for Pat Riley's and Phil Jackson's. I doubt there is anybody here who will hate on Jim for doing that, if you did hate on that then your not a smart business man.

Very bottom basic business common sense.

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It's amazing how often the offspring of smart, self-made, successful people turn out to be whiney, entitled, self-important a$$holes. It's like the genius gene skips a generation. Maybe it's something to do with rebelling against who your parents were.

Anybody know the situation on Jerry's grandkids? ...because that looks like the next time lakers fans should have any hope if the team stays in the hands of this family.

There's plenty of blame to go around. Jim is a mental midget and Jeannie thinks her boyfriend is the cure-all even after the way he exited his last tenure.

Neither of them have ever achieved ANYTHING for themselves, yet it seems they both believe they inherited Daddy's acumen and then some.

Baadmaster is right. Like it or not, the Clippers are coming up. With Los Angeles being the capital of "what have you done for me lately"-ville, the lakers had better hit the jackpot in 2014, or they'll be the "also-rans" of the city for the foreseeable future.

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RustyRay wrote:
As hard as it is to say this because the Buss family is directly responsible for much of the Lakers success. I think that now that the Senior Buss is gone...RIP that the main person who had a vision for the Lakers is also gone.

It might be best to hope that somehow the current ownership decides to sell the team and the Lakers can be purchased by a rich, aggressive owner who's main focus is for the team and its success...and not for drama and power struggles,l or to get their name and face in the paper or on tv.

Jim and Jeanie just reek of power hungry people who want to control everything and take credit when it works and disappear when it doesn't. I always had respect for Jeanie...but I really am not sure why...and after reading this I can see maybe it was an ill conceived or non educated opinion.

Gotta agree RustyRay. But I wouldn't mind seeing an owner who is just aggressive behind the scenes. In other words an owner who wants success but doesn't necessarily know _____ from shinola about basketball and is willing to delegate fully and hand over the reins to an excellent basketball GM up until the checks are signed. Owners can easily be too involved where they only muck up the team's decisions instead of help.

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Jim Buss can still be owner and succeed, he just needs to be smart and bring in smarter people to run basketball.

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i agree with dub24 completely. as I have said before Jim Buss is capable but he lacks people who can help him. Mitch nor Jeanie is enough. we need someone. just another someone who can run things. I'm pretty sure there are still a lot of slots in there.

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ralppcobarde wrote:
i agree with dub24 completely. as I have said before Jim Buss is capable but he lacks people who can help him. Mitch nor Jeanie is enough. we need someone. just another someone who can run things. I'm pretty sure there are still a lot of slots in there.

ya that someone was Phil Jackson. one of the greatest basketball minds out there. if Jim wanted help i'm certain he could've gotten it, even if it weren't PJ.

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ya that someone was Phil Jackson. one of the greatest basketball minds out there. if Jim wanted help i'm certain he could've gotten it, even if it weren't PJ.

LOL not the PHIL great coach but it doesn't mean he will be a great GM.

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The scariest thing about Jim Buss is that he was actually worried about the five million or so he had to waste on Mike Brown. Now five mill ain't chickenfeed, but to the Lakers it is chump change. You never heard Dr. Buss ***** about paying off Dull Harris. Or paying PJax a king's ransom.

Somehow I get the feeling that Jim is just a very parsimonious guy and will try to keep every penny of the TWC money. I feel that he cares as much about winning as I care about **** fighting. Zip. Zero. Zilch.

And that will be the undoing of the great Dr. Buss legacy.

Baad,

That Is an interesting take considering your comparison with the Clippers. Heres why:

I read an interesting article about Sterling many years ago. In it, many examples were given of his rank, flat out cheapness both in paying player salaries and other areas. They compared him unfavorably to our own good doctor Buss.

Going back to your point about us becoming the Clippers and the Clippers becoming us. Somewhere in the last few years, Sterlings light finally came on and he decided to try win, and spend the money to do so.

Will Jim Buss become the old Sterling? Trying to save and scrimp money at ever turn and corner? If so, then indeed the Lakers and Clippers may well simply switch places.

LondonLaker,

Interesting comments about the Buss family children. You know, it is true that in almost all cases, he kids of very smart accomplished people fail miserably to reach those heights set by the parent.

If we have to wait another generation for a great Buss to run the team, lol, well, Ill be sh*t out of luck and a lot of young LTB members will be pretty damn old by the time that happens.

I would say that I agree with the post that says if Buss proves a flop, the best thing that could happen (for us fans) is for him and the family to sell the team to someone more accomplished. But I doubt that would happen unless Buss found himself in dire financial straits and he needed a big cash infusion.

Also agree with the post by Dubtwenty and others that he should surround himself with people who are smart, smarter than he is, and let them do the work. That is the hallmark of all smart managers in any endeaver. Get smart people in place, not yes men.

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LOL not the PHIL great coach but it doesn't mean he will be a great GM.

who said anything about GM? we already have Mitch. i was just referring to a great basketball mind that would consult the Lakers' basketball decisions. Phil is considered one of the best. my point was that Jim Buss could have hired him or another basketball "someone" but he didn't. that speaks more about where Jim Buss is with all of this - he's confident in his own vision for the team, and IMO that's not really reassuring.

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A lot of good and clever observations and comments here. Nothing much new I can add to it. But do have one thought: Did either Jeannie or Jimbo have kids?

In other words, if not, no matter what happens, the Buss dynasty ends with these 2 squabbling siblings.

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LondonLaker,

Also agree with the post by Dubtwenty and others that he should surround himself with people who are smart, smarter than he is, and let them do the work. That is the hallmark of all smart managers in any endeaver. Get smart people in place, not yes men.

Randy,

I feel like Jim Buss may be suffering from the fans' demands of having a contending Laker team, I just feel like he is smarter than he appears to be right now. Hopeflully he can get used to actually being "the owner" instead of feeling like he has to "run the team ". I feel like he might believe that the Lakers' destiny all lies on his decision-making, which it technically is, but it it is not.

Like you said, he can become more efficient with his decisions if he hired some smarter guys around him to give him some better offers and suggestions. He could definitely benefit from getting all that deadweight responsibility off his shoulders.

Of course he will never be Dr. Buss, which is why he must strive to be someone else, Jim Buss perhaps?

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I think Jerry Buss was trying his best to make things equal but he divided ownership between his six kids and Johnny,Jimmy and Jeannie run the trust fund. Well, when you have different folks hands in the pot it makes things difficult. He did a smart thing by making one head of basketball operations and one head of business affairs. It's just that as of now Jim Buss hasn't learned much from Jerry West and neither has Mitch Kupchak. Jim Buss was assistant GM with the Lakers since 1998, was promoted and I think that's when Ronnie Lester was promoted to assistant GM. People think Jim was the one who discovered Bynum, he wasn't. It was Lester and Bertka, Lester pushed hard to get Bynum. How was Lester rewarded? He was let go. Jim is trying to do things on the cheap and it will come back to bite him in the butt. He let go of a lot of people including Lester.

Kupchak looks to make the deals, it has to be approved by Jim. Jim wants certain guys as well and Mitch tries to make it happen but people need to realize Mitch is just as much at fault for this team's demise into the AARP club. I seriously doubt Jim has been telling Mitch no, I won't approve the team getting younger, we must get older. Jim has approved the jettisoning of first round picks, I'm sure some of tat has to do with his own desire to have certain players.

The problem we have is you have Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder and Helen Keller trying to run the Lakers. None of them can see the future and it's a sad state of affairs.

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I don't know if I can buy into the Jim being "cheap" line of thought above. We just FINALLY got off the top of the list in team salary even though we attempted to remain in the $100M+ club with an attempted Howard signing. How the heck is that possibly a record of being cheap? That's an odd assessment if you ask me. It's easy to question his intelligence, but that's a different matter.

By the way, Jerry Buss was much more frugal than he's given credit for being. He HAD to be! He wasn't even remotely close to being the richest owner in the league for any substantial portion of his career at all. Plus, keep in mind that he didn't have a monster TWC contract to cushion him like the Lakers executives do now. Yes, he was willing to spend his hard earned money to take a risk here and there but for the most part he was just smart about his spending...at least in terms of basketball spending. Besides, spending money shouldn't be alone at the top of the list for evaluating an executive's decisions anyway.


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