Pau Gasol 'would Love to Play' for Lakers Beyond Next Season

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Would you like the Lakers to re-sign Pau Gasol for 2014-2015 and beyond?
Yes at any price
4%
 4%  [1]
Yes if between $7 to $9 million
41%
 41%  [10]
Yes if between $4 to $6 million and he would take it
37%
 37%  [9]
Yes if under $4 million and he would accept
0%
 0%  [0]
No
16%
 16%  [4]
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Pau Gasol 'would love to play' for Lakers beyond next season By Satchel Price @SatchelPrice on Aug 3 2013, 5:42p USA TODAY Sports Could the Lakers end up bringing Gasol back next summer? He hopes so. The Los Angeles Lakers only have Pau Gasol under contract for one more season, but the former All-Star hopes to stay with the franchise where he's already won two titles. Gasol says he holds no grudges for past trade rumors and remains positive while expecting to play a larger role with L.A. next season. "I would love to play for the franchise that I love playing for, that I'm....

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Pau Gasol holds 'no grudges' against Lakers, still rehabbing knees By Eric Pincus August 2, 2013, 4:57 p.m. After a difficult season, Lakers forward/center Pau Gasol is looking forward to a new start this fall with the Lakers sans Dwight Howard. "I understood and understand it was a difficult situation for a lot of people, to make things work," Gasol said Friday in a phone call from Spain. "As difficult as it was at times, now it's behind us and all we can do is focus on the present and what's coming." Coach Mike D'Antoni even benched Gasol for a stretch, hoping to find....

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Added a poll- would you want Pau Gasol back on the Lakers for 2014-15 and beyond? And if so- at what price? It certainly may well depend on his stats/durability for the upcoming season. But certainly I'm sure Pau is happy that Dwight Howard is gone as Paul would now be able to maximize his own stats & minutes.

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I'm sorry but I couldn't do it, unless he takes a serious pay cut and is coming off the bench. Other than that, nooooo.

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Pau is a true class act which is why he is perfect for the classy (most of the time) Laker organization. With that said, this year is huge if he wants to remain apart of this franchise. They won't give him the kobe treatment by doing anything at all cost to keep him, this could very well be his last contract where he gets 10+ a year. The poll options are pretty low. If he is offered anything less than 10 then that probably means he didn't have the great year we all expect and we wouldn't want him anyway. Lets remember that 7 footers can be a bit pricey and always seem to get overpaid (kwame, deandre, Jason Thompson etc.) so that sets the market for him a lone. If he plays a full healthy season and gives us about 17 9 4 then I won't mind a two year 24 mill contract.

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He doesn't even keep himself in shape. Sorry Pau, enough is enough.

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He stated last season that playing another season with the D'Antoni system would be very difficult. That's Pau's way of asking for a trade or a new coach... Pau seems to be a really decent person with a good heart but he does not speak directly. You have to read into everything he says....

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It is sometimes a thing of beauty watching Pau on the offensive end... However it is a sight for sore eyes watching him struggle on the defensive end. Unfortunately, "The Dallas sweep" proved to be his "Achilles Heel" and a catalyst in his skill/ self-belief degeneration. There is a reason why the FO( boneheads that they are..lol) attempted to trade him for Chris Paul. Like the old wisdom in BB and other sporting activities goes: "it is better to trade someone one year before the expiry of their shelf life, rather than few years thereafter"

Lastly He has always been a perennial, subservient side kick for Kobe. What this team really needs is someone who has the testicular fortitude to stand up for himself by grabbing the bull by the horns, make his voice be heard and if need be, throw his weight around a bit.

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He'd be a bargain at around 10m per year for 2 years

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After this season, its time to let go of Pau. I think better that way than paying him 8 mil - 10 mil a year multiple years.

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if he really want to say.. he has to take a paycut since kobe isn't going to..i think that is the scenario possible for him to stay

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Skyeword wrote:
He stated last season that playing another season with the D'Antoni system would be very difficult. That's Pau's way of asking for a trade or a new coach... Pau seems to be a really decent person with a good heart but he does not speak directly. You have to read into everything he says....

It's difficult for a player to ever say anything directly, err indirectly I guess it is since it's through the media that we usually hear it. For all we know, a guy like that may be very direct within the organization. But if they publicly speak out openly against a coach then they're typically labeled a team cancer.

D'Antoni disrespected a couple of veteran players to a large extent last year. At times I think it was very hard for both Antawn Jamison and Pau to bite their tongue and keep it in. But as public statements about a coach go, Pau's was relatively direct without becoming a negative influence on the team.

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When I and others were Pau-bashing, we were also hoping that moving him would bring us someone younger and hungrier. We saw his chronic softness as an unaffordable weakness on a team with Finals aspirations. It's a business. Well, Pau's late-season return and all-star efforts in eeking us past Houston for the 7th seed showed us and the rest of Laker Nation that he really was still one of the league's most versatile big men, and an asset that any team should think twice about before letting go. Add to that the fact that we aren't a team with legitimate Finals aspirations anymore. . at this point.

Of course, this is all transparent. The real issue behind Pau's up-and-down Laker career is the 19 million. His triple-doubles were the tipping point, and now - taking into consideration his loyalty and classy international image - retaining him as a necessary complement to Chris Kaman seems perfect. Dwight's clear inability to feel comfortable in Purple and Gold (plus his obvious lack of concern over attitude and FT issues) makes Gasol and Kaman look like solid, stable (if not exciting) investments.

We always loved Pau's size and versatility. It's been his gaffes and diminished play since 09-10 that have infuriated us - and the vague, questionable reasons behind that fall-off. As instrumental as he's been, that "Gasoft" stigma (born during the '08 Finals) resurfaces every time he falls to the floor or gets punked in the paint. If he wants to round-out his career with the Lakers, he'll have to join Kobe in taking less money and letting himself be phased-out as new talent steps in. I'd be proud to see him retire here, and I'll be one of the first to stand and give him a long, loud ovation.

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Pau will come back strong and will have #16 retired at the staples center. With all the Bynum and Howard mess. When it's all said and done Gasol as a big man will be mentioned with the laker greats.

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after Phil max, magic, kareem, mitch, kobe, all get in lebrons ear come Xmas day (and Mvp chants rain down upon lebron and he feels the embrace of the GREATEST sports organization) a roster featuring kobe, lebron, melo, nick young, wesley, pau will take midlevel in a heart beat... at this point, pau has had what? 2 max contracts? the dude is paid and will take a major pay cut to play for la... and as far as his "softness" bosh isn't that much tougher lol and he would still beable to spread the floorfor lebrons drives... and YES I'm VERY confident lebron will be here.. along with melo... melo's knicks are getting older, the rest of the east is getting stronger, thheir contracts don't come off the books for 2-3 more years and they have no cap flexibility... they aren't championship caliber... the heat are good, yes, but after this year wade is finished in my opinion and bosh is gonna chase his money and go get paid... its gonna come down to "where can lebron have the best shot to win the rings... he gonna have more Mvps then jordan... he will get his Dopy award(he has been ribbed the last few seasons-to have a soft center like bosh and have one of the top defenses in the league is pretty amazing) the only thing that is in question is his ring count... so he needs to get out of the east =D words of wisdom

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All I want from Pau this season is 34 ppg, 27 rpg, and 3.4 bpg. Is that too much to ask?

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^ haha and an 82-0 record along with a Dpoy award lol

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After his re amplified season coming up, for the soon to be bargain price what better options are out there then resigning Gasol. This is of course based on if we plan to "star" up in the next year or so......I would get a young athletic wing spot type scorer and keep Pau at center until he's done. Unless there is another center out there up and coming that I don't know about, which could be the case and I'm sorry if I'm wrong.

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Not every player is a physical beast in the post, but he did help LA win 2 titles with 3 finals appearances. Kendrick Perkins is physical down low, but would you rather have him? Pau can play basketball period. He is not a physical guy and does not really have the body type. For you old school fans, I don't remember Kareem being a physical guy (and he is arguably the best big ever). LA had Rambis, AC Green, Mitch, Mo Lucas for the muscle and why because Kareem was not. I would not call Kareem soft, but he would not be a classic banger either. Before I see a bunch of you can't compare Pau and Kareem, I am not. Yet from a body type standpoint they are similar. They both could life weights 20 hours a days and be on the juice more than Canseco and they won't look like or play like Shaq. Nor would you ask Shaq to play like Kareem or Pau.

Pau is obviously not worth $19M anymore, but anything below $7-9M is really an insult. Tiago Splitter just got that same contract and Pau is WAAAAAAYYYY better than him. He is not the best big man in the league, but most would be hard pressed to name 10 big men better than him even at this stage. So if you get rid of him what big man replaces his production at the 4 and 5. If LA can't find someone better or equal to him, why would you not resign him? If you look at the free agent bigs for 2014, Pau is arguable the best name on the list.

Let's say you get Lebron and Melo (I know not really going to happen), I don't remember either of these guys playing the 5. So we can all hate the guy and want him gone (For the record I want him to stay), but is there a better option at his position.

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JSM87 wrote:
Pau will come back strong and will have #16 retired at the staples center. With all the Bynum and Howard mess. When it's all said and done Gasol as a big man will be mentioned with the laker greats.

That Is the funniest stuff I heard all week. No way that bum is mentioned with laker greats. Lakers need to try to throw deals at Greg monroe, or derrick favors. I think we will draft a big man.

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Dundie2k wrote:
All I want from Pau this season is 34 ppg, 27 rpg, and 3.4 bpg. Is that too much to ask?

You will be lucky if the whole team gets those numbers,

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Pua Gasol is furthest from a "bum", the amount of disrespect and lack of appreciation in a single sentence by one person in a single short post is outrageous, and the statement should be retracted. That Is horrible, and to say he won't be talked about nor mentioned with the laker greats when this guy brought the kind of loyalty, respect, and accountability giving all he has for the city of LA on and off the court includeing to chips?. O by the way which no one has brought and shown for this franchise within the last friggen 20 years besides of course Kobe. Lol. Pau Gasol at the top of his game or the end of his journey should and needs to be respected....Bynum made a mockery of it, and Howard jacked us all off.

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That Is the funniest stuff I heard all week. No way that bum is mentioned with laker greats. Lakers need to try to throw deals at Greg monroe, or derrick favors. I think we will draft a big man.

wow a " bum"? so disrespectful for Pau. i think its more of a bum when you just type on PC , eat,sleep, and say what you what on a forum without thinking what you had to say. as oppose to have rehabbing everyday and playing Basketball almost all year.well, of course, hanging his laker jersey might be unlikely but as soon as we acquired him, it could still be possible since he gave us 2 rings. Kwame,Smush era is gone and we are back to winning ways. we didn't miss a playoffs yet with Gasol around. so your point saying that he is a bum is all gone wrong. the dude always averaged 17-8 and 18-9 when he was playing his best. give me other big man in the game that could atleast be like that. just a handful, even though his stats regressed from last season. 13 to 14 points and 8 rebs per game is still pretty decent as for the guy who gets benched, injured and become the 3rd/4th option on a team.

this is the ridiculous statement i read all week. and its unfortunate fans like you doesn't even appreciate Pau and just conclude that he is a "bum". funny stuff from a fan like you. talk about hating a player, especially the dude has been a laker for a long time. but some fans just show the complete opposite of supporting a laker player. it is sad, not only on laker fans. but i saw a lot of fans in their respective teams that are really hating its players. what kind of support is that?

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I'm still stunned looking at the vote which has been recorded to keep Gasol at any price. I could reason with, or come to terms with the other alternatives/options, however this is one curve ball which has me stumped.

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Pau Gasol is a great player and yet somehow doesn't get the respect he deserves. He was a franchise player in Memphis and an integral part of three Finals appearances and two championships. His performance last season can be attributed to Dwight clogging up the middle, dantonis misuse of his talents and his injuries. He was a man possessed by the end of the season posting double doubles and triple doubles all over place. He's also not nearly the defensive liability most people make him out to be. He's decent on the D.

All that being said age and state of the team has to play a factor. It all depends on how he and the team plays this coming season and how much money he will settle for. If the team is doing terrible I could definitely see the lakers unloading him for salary reasons and trying to get young players and picks for him. Ideally I think it would be great to see him retire as a laker. But sometimes you've got to make the smart decision for the team. If the team fails this year I would say a change is in order and they should get some young players for Pau with that expiring contract. I wouldn't be sticking strictly to this no contracts passed 2014 plan either. If you can get some good pieces at the middle of the season you should pull the trigger no matter how long their contract is because you're going to need more than just a couple of super stars and how do they intend on enticing a super star if there aren't good players on the team for them to join with.

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Saveferris, the team failed last year! They Lakers are in rebuilding mode now! Wait until the end of this season and no team in the NBA will have any interest in Pau perhaps including the Lakers... Sentimental basketball does not work and the Lakers have already demonstrated an acute lack of sensitivity already. Pau is a great offensive player due to dexterity in the low post and consistency. He is not a great basketball player in any other way though props to his passing ability! I think when the facts are looked at, there will be a question if he is a Hall of Fame player or simply a very talented offensive player that gelled very well with Kobe Bryant. It's that borderline status and inconsistency since 2010 that remain the issues, as well of course lame defense.... Pau does not enjoy the limelight. He has managed his role in LA well. We are talking future and best fit and there are better fits for Pau Gasol than the Lakers at this time. If Dwight did not deliver a clear lesson to all Laker fans I don't know what will! Everyone assumes that Pau will want to continue playing for the Lakers after this season. Why? He has already stated his deep concerns about playing in the Mike D'Antoni system. He's an easy going guy who has all the cash he will ever need for three lifetimes. What will stop him from going back to Spain, or Memphis for 2014 and beyond? All indicators are flashing red lights to trade him to Minnesota or Memphis yesterday. Are the Lakers gonna miss another huge opportunity to return youth and value because Pau 'used to be' a consistent contributor? His best stats this....

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Skyeword,

I respectfully disagree. Pau can still be a factor with the team. The team failed last season due to all of the injuries, change of the coach during the season, a mountain of expectations and chemistry issues which I have no problem putting on Dwight. Nash stated after the season that he never really felt like Dwight wanted to be with the Lakers until the tail end of the season and it was stated that he refused to run the pick and roll, the bread and butter of the Nash/Dantoni offense.

Dwight's gone and the coach is here for the time being. The big question mark is the injuries and every team is susceptible to injuries. If Kobe is ok I think the lakers are a playoff team which I would hardly call rebuilding mode. I'm sure everyone is going to call me crazy but I think the team will be better without Dwight.

You may think a team full of one year contracts is a rental team built for tanking but I see a lot of players with motivation to preform well. Expectation is a killer which played a big part in last seasons failure but this season the Lakers will be underdogs which is right where you want to be.

Pau is a great player and deserves to be in the hall of fame. I remember seeing him play against Team USA with his Spanish National team in the 2012 Olympics. He lead his team and almost beat the "dream team" in the Gold Metal game. He was dominant. Just because he doesn't insist on being "the man" like Dwight Howard doesn't mean he's any less valuable. I'd pick Pau before Dwight in a heart beat to be the Lakers Center moving forward.

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Pau is obviously not worth $19M anymore, but anything below $7-9M is really an insult. Tiago Splitter just got that same contract and Pau is WAAAAAAYYYY better than him. He is not the best big man in the league, but most would be hard pressed to name 10 big men better than him even at this stage. So if you get rid of him what big man replaces his production at the 4 and 5. If LA can't find someone better or equal to him, why would you not resign him? If you look at the free agent bigs for 2014, Pau is arguable the best name on the list.

You're right for sure about the $7-9M being somewhat an insult for a player of Pau's skill in the NBA market. But, as far as the attached poll goes, keep in mind that some of us are hoping for a home team discount for the final stage of his career for the sake of the team. Plus, it may take a discount for Pau to be able to close out his career as a Laker.

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Respectfully, much appreciated. There is certainly a lack of that at LTB lately.... I respectfully disagree with your disagreement! :) Your evidence regarding Pau's skills are historical and you are suggesting that the Lakers struggles were due to injuries. That is of course a factor but to investigate deeper, the injuries are arguably attributable to a coach who runs a 7-8 man rotation and ran Kobe into the ground. The same man benched Pau and forgot that Jamison was on the team. The entire dynamic of the Lakers is not working now which is to be expected when a long time owner passes on and new ideas take his place. I am a calm person and I screamed "NO" loud enough for a few cars to hear me when I heard the Dwightmare announcement on the radio. It was one of the singular most short sighted decisions the franchise has ever made. The moment Drew came into his own and was legitimately being considered as a successor to Kobe, he was traded. The guy could not get any love in LA. I hesitate to watch the rest of his career assuming he can keep his knees in shape because he is gonna dominate! Pau might make the Hall of Fame but it's gonna be tight. The player he is now is marginal and he has never played defense. It's just that simple. It does not matter if you like him or not the facts are the facts. The business of basketball demands that the Lakers be honest with themselves and state out loud three times in the mirror who they are right now which is a struggling team that is rebuilding. Every team wants to win and you....

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The apparent decline of Pau Gasol as an NBA force began during the 2010-11 when Andrew Bynum became the Lakers second option under head coach Phil Jackson, averaging more points and rebounds per game that post-season than the Spaniard. Perhaps Pau's decline had something to do with Drew asserting himself. Prior to that, whether Lakers fans want to accept the truth about young Andrew or not, he was a ROLE PLAYER in Phil Jackson's system with Gasol being the clear #2 option. Then came the lockout and once the new CBA was in place, the Lakers shocked everyone by somehow trading Gasol AND Lamar Odom for Chris Paul. Not only did this trade psychologically destroy Odom for life, but it didn't do much good for Gasol either. Now that Mitch and the Busses showed their hand (courtesy of David Stern's rescission of that completed deal), they didn't have much choice other than to keep Gasol (after they wisely dumped LO and his contract). Having had the entire summer and then some to study his personnel, new head coach Mike Brown made the logical decision to make the re-emerging Andrew Bynum his second option while asking Gasol to find a new role within his medicore, iso-laden offensive sets. No longer was the Black Swan the Lakers low post option as Bynum put up career 19-12 numbers. Somehow, Swannie managed a more than respectable 17-10 through out all this. Enter Dwight Howard, Steve Nash and then 5 games into the season, Mike D'Antoni. The Black Swan had no realistic role within D'Antoni's offense and did what third/fourth options are supposed to do in any NBA offense, which is to figure things out for themselves because plays aren't exactly drawn up for them. Let us not forget that he played with a bum foot and....

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Though I do not concur with your confidence in a reemergent Pau PK, the analysis is spot on and exceptionally well written... I also think there's hope for LO too and hope the Lakers bring him back. I think that LO's presence will actually help Pau and visa versa, that is, if Pau is not wearing a Minny uni this season... Wink

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Name one big man that will be a gettable free agent in 2014 who is better than Pau....

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There is no way to know that at this time given trade prospects, free agents and draft picks.

'Better' is far too vague. Defensively, virtually every PF and Center in the league. Naming players will simply open an inane debate.

Keeping Pau limits options and when rebuilding, it's about positioning the team for best options which mandate youth and all round players.

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Lakers have a history of keeping players to the end of their contracts, and getting nothing in return when they walk. They rarely do trade deadline moves (big ones anyways...and I said rarely, not never).

So it looks to me, statistically if you will, most likely Lakers keep Pau and don't take advantage of trade options for his expiring contract. As ill advised as that is, business wise, that's most likely to happen.

And they won't sign and trade him at the end of the year either. They'll just let him go, like so many players and trade exemptions before him. The FO has not demonstrated the kind of fiscal acumen needed

to run a team into the future. So for better or worse (let's pray it's better) it seems most likely he'll serve out his tenure here. What occurs beyond that is yet anyone's guess. Would they try to resign him for

less etc. That will be determined as the season goes on.


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