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ralppcobarde
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i hate his moves lately. letting go of Clark,Howard,Sessions,picks. picking the wrong coaches. ok I'm starting to really really hate JI'm Buss and i don't want to give him another chance unless he prove him more on what he has done lately. right now, I'm seeing a pure garbage decision. if i was the GM, why the hell Dantoni is here? MWP? Gasol?. Jim BUss ruined everything and I'm waiting that he along with his bum arrogant sister in Jeanie who didn't do anything to save the franchise to get out this team. they are pure garbage.thats all.


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I'm hoping things will chance after this upcoming season. If not then we are all in for a rough ride.


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NOT Jeannie, and NOT Gasol.

But Jimmie-Boy?

PURE GARBAGE at its ABSOLUTE WORST.


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Well think about it this way, he chose D'Antoni over Dwight, Earl, and Phil. Enough said. This man is a legend in the making.


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Well think about it this way, he chose D'Antoni over Dwight, Earl, and Phil. Enough said. This man is a legend in the making.

this. even a grade 5 student will follow what his teacher wants and the lakers didn't give Dwight the right coach.


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I hope Plan B turns into A+ cuz a B is not enough lol we need a top plan to keep us contending at least because the west is too strong..... I just want to know who is going to save the lakers beside the Lebron talk?

We should offer the most we can to Irvin and Lebron and give Kobe and pau a discount and get a decent bench with Nash and we are good to go and sign one more star

We must steal Irvin if we can he is already a star and young, next up go for Lebron hard if he opts out, and get another star and sign Kobe/pau again and a nice young bench. If I was the GM at least **** Jim buss .....


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I am tired of railing about Jim Buss. I have been saying he is an idiot going on two years now. I am not glad that I am right. One thing for sure: I am going to save a lot of money and time this seaon. I will not buy Lakers tickets, I won't get the "Sports Package" that you have to pay for when you have DirecTV and I will have a lot more free time because I won't watch the Lakers like I used to. I do not think I can stand to see D'Antoni's haughty smirk as he ruins two great franchises in a row -- the Knicks and the Lakers.

I wish Jim The Inheritor would sell the team to Magic Johnson.


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Baad = The reason you are frustrated is that the team has stuck with a nincompoop for two years. The selection of this moron was a bizarre decision. Nobody expected it, and nobody understood it. After a disastrous season, the powers in charge are allowing Jimmy to continue with his stupidity.

I too am tired of ragging on the obvious. But if I stop complaining about it, I will stop being a Lakers fan and will have just given up altogether. It really sucks to be a fan of a team on the wane. Decisions by management have already haunted this team, and it is only getting worse. Error upon error. Mistake upon mistake.

The guys running this franchise ARE NOT getting council from Magic Johnson. He has been a vocal critic of this regime. In the days when we won championships, Magic was right in there, talking with Jerry about players and coaches, etc. Now, they have alienated the last part of Jerry's legacy - being smart enough to listen to probably the best player to ever play the game.

Ask yourself why Magic has distanced himself from the Lakers. It has taken a lot of bad moves for Magic to step away from his favorite team in the world. If you cut Magic, he bleeds purple and gold, and I challenge anyone to question that assertion. Now, Jimmy Boy doesn't have the wisdom of Yoda to help him (No Phil) nor does he have the practical advice of a legend that Magic brings to the table. The people making the decisions for this franchise are incompetent, and as a result, many of us are on the cusp of walking away from our favorite team because of stupid management (not pet) tricks.

Regardless of whether you wanted Dwight to stay or leave, this franchise chased him away, and they did it unintentionally - by not paying attention to the obvious, once again. They are like the Obama administration. Inept, incapable, and stupid are the words of the day.


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Browns-a-Clown wrote:
NOT Jeannie, and NOT Gasol.

But Jimmie-Boy?

PURE GARBAGE at its ABSOLUTE WORST.


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Mr. Clown. Nice to see that you too are an insomniac! Oh yeah, you're on the East coast! No wonder you're up and in business already.

Those of us on the West coast are still wiping sleep from our eyes.


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when things go right, people praise mitch. when things go wrong, people blame jim. I can't really speak on jim buss because I don't believe everything I hear and read from different media outlets, and I see people being hypocritical and don't give just due. to be honest, I think the only thing that needs improving, is his coaching decisions (that subject to change depending how the lakers do this up coming season) but overall, people need an escape goat, in this case, it's jim.


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SourceCode wrote:
when things go right, people praise mitch. when things go wrong, people blame jim. I can't really speak on jim buss because I don't believe everything I hear and read, and I see people being hypocritical and don't give just due. to be honest, I think the only thing that needs improving, is his coaching decisions but overall, people need an escape goat, in this case, it's jim.

could be, but considering the fact that they choose Mike over Phil and continued to do so throughout the season even after the meeting with Dwight, its hard to say why it isn't jim's fault. I mean at the end of the day he is in charge of basketball decisions, he gets the final say. Mitch just makes them happen.


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could be, but considering the fact that they choose Mike over Phil and continued to do so throughout the season even after the meeting with Dwight, its hard to say why it isn't jim's fault. I mean at the end of the day he is in charge of basketball decisions, he gets the final say. Mitch just makes them happen.

there were talks of d'antoni being his dad's selection, but if I were to put blame on anybody out mitch and jim for d'antoni, I would fault jim. I understand the reasoning for d'antoni, just don't think, after watching them play, and mike's stubbornness to adjust his system was the right choice. especially given your suppose future franchise player wants phil. maybe they seen a lack of commitment in dwight beforehand, so they didn't accommodate dwight's wishes until he showed that. we have to rememeber, dwight did not want to be a laker, he didn't ask to be a laker, and didn't say he was going to stay. so why accommodate to a person with such uncertainty?

overall though, I think d'antoni wasn't right for the team that we had at all, after last year. but I think he learned from last year and will be better this year.


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I always hear the story about Jim Buss going to his dad, Jerry, with doubts on hiring D'Antoni, and Jerry telling him to stick to his guns. The media interprets it as Jerry telling Jim to go with Mike, but I see it as Jerry telling Jim listen to his gut feeling and at that point his gut feeling was doubts on Mike. Good job Jim! I aint mad DH is gone, I'm mad that we didn't even get a sign n trade deal for him..


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I'm just sitting back noticing a lot of comments online, as well as the media in regards to Jim Buss and I had to step outside of myself and put things together.

Now help me figure this out:

When we picked up Steve Nash, Jamison, Jodi Meeks, AND Dwight Howard for a damaged Bynum. Then Jerry Buss made it clear he wanted to move on from the boring triangle and move on to showtime basketball and hired Dantoni. It was Mitch who was the brilliant mastermind behind all of that.

But when it went south, as no one could predict, it was 'IDIOT JIM BUSS" who was to blame??

And let's be clear, no one in management including Laker fans was clamoring for Phil Jackson to return after that awful season that lead to us being swept by Dallas. We were old, slow, and played no defense whatsoever.

But now that once again we've had one heck of an off season, which might have just vaulted us to playoff success MINUS DWIGHT, it's back to Mitch's brilliance once again?

That doesn't make any sense.

Now I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in particular. I'm just as guilty as anyone in this regard with my bias towards Jimbo. But I think it's time we all look in the mirror and get off this dudes case.

He's deserved at least that much from us.


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LakerZip wrote:

Mr. Clown. Nice to see that you too are an insomniac! Oh yeah, you're on the East coast! No wonder you're up and in business already.

Those of us on the West coast are still wiping sleep from our eyes.

Good calls on Jimmie-Boy, up there.

To ever become respected in LA for him will be a tall order.


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Browns-a-Clown wrote:
Good calls on Jimmie-Boy, up there.

To ever become respected in LA for him will be a tall order.

To be fair, if we win a championship, Jim Buss will become a great owner. And if we win multiple championships, he'll become the greatest owner ever.

Then if we stop winning, he'll go back to being scum.


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gastank wrote:
To be fair, if we win a championship, Jim Buss will become a great owner. And if we win multiple championships, he'll become the greatest owner ever.

Then if we stop winning, he'll go back to being scum.

LOL....Nice.


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gastank wrote:

To be fair, if we win a championship, Jim Buss will become a great owner. And if we win multiple championships, he'll become the greatest owner ever.

Then if we stop winning, he'll go back to being scum.

^So true. And thanks for reinforcing my point, Mr. Tank, as championships, by their very nature, are not easy. Like I said, a tall order.

But I, for one, don't see great things ahead for us. Mediocre to good, maybe -- but just not great. And for me, it's not strictly 100% about Jimmie-Boy; a small part of it is the law of averages catching up to us. If the New York Yankees can go roughly 25+ years without winning a championship, so can we.


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Good day Mr. Clown -

Jimmy Boy is the guy in charge. Mitch does Jimmy's bidding. "Hey Mitch, go find out if so and so is available."

Or

Mitch comes back to Jimmy and says, "Hey Boss, I just found out that so and so is available, should we go after him?"

Either way, the buck stops at Jimmy's desk. And unfortunately, his desk needs to be moved - out of Staples Center. The guy's decision making is flawed.

Mitch has the contacts, and Mitch can negotiate the deals, but the final decisions are Jimmy's. And his decisions are not as good as his fathers. Moreover, the CBA makes today's environment a lot different from back when Jerry could write a check that his a** could cash. He could buy any level of talent, because LA was a big market with a lot of bucks to spread around.

Today, don't overestimate the value of being in LA. Any player who comes here suffers a 40% income tax penalty due to California wanting a cut of their salaries. That's why Dwight got a raise by entering into a contract for less money with the Rockets, than if he signed in LA.

The only real draw, is players who think they can make more in endorsements here to make up for it, or those who can rap, make movies, etc. when they are done with basketball. Otherwise, most players take an after tax loss to play with the Lakers. That is often a handicap, rather than a benefit, due to the horrendous taxes paid to the State of California.


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^

And a good day, back to you, Mr. Zip.

Stated like a true genius for the ages.

REPPED.


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"LKnight" said:

I'm just sitting back noticing a lot of comments online, as well as the media in regards to Jim Buss and I had to step outside of myself and put things together.

Now help me figure this out:

When we picked up Steve Nash, Jamison, Jodi Meeks, AND Dwight Howard for a damaged Bynum. Then Jerry Buss made it clear he wanted to move on from the boring triangle and move on to showtime basketball and hired Dantoni. It was Mitch who was the brilliant mastermind behind all of that.

But when it went south, as no one could predict, it was 'IDIOT JIM BUSS" who was to blame??

And let's be clear, no one in management including Laker fans was clamoring for Phil Jackson to return after that awful season that lead to us being swept by Dallas. We were old, slow, and played no defense whatsoever.

But now that once again we've had one heck of an off season, which might have just vaulted us to playoff success MINUS DWIGHT, it's back to Mitch's brilliance once again?

That doesn't make any sense.

Now I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in particular. I'm just as guilty as anyone in this regard with my bias towards Jimbo. But I think it's time we all look in the mirror and get off this dudes case.

He's deserved at least that much from us.

Nicely put, and excellent post; however...

Jim Buss only deserves one thing from Laker Fans, everywhere: To be constantly *under-the-gun, no matter what he does -- good, bad, or indifferent. Ever.

Just like most of us are under-the-gun in our day-to-day reality of our own lives. Be it from our Bosses, our Clients, our Children, and/or our Spouses, etc., etc., etc.

And Jim Buss is no different.

(The *very same goes for Mitch & D'Antoni, BTW).


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I don't want to rip on the name Buss cause the late great Dr Buss took the Lakers to the top. However, Jim Buss has shown me nothing except stubbornness and incompetence. I hope I'm wrong but unless Jeanie takes over, the Lakers may be a long way from ever getting #17.


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Thank you sincerely, Mr. Clown for the repp.

Sometimes, clarity of thought is hard to understand. It is so easy for us to look at the Lakers, and see the obvious. Why can't they see it?

Jim Buss would have to be a total idiot to not know how the fans feel about his recent decisionmaking. The real question is why can't the Lakers owners see it? Whoever will benefit from the team having a bigger following, selling season tickets out faster, and selling more jerseys should be able to see exactly what we see. The Lakers FO is moribund. At this point, the CBA, California income taxes, and our inability to pay any cash to entice players to come to LA are killing our chances next year. Last year was the greatest disappointment in my Laker life. It looks like this year will be more of the same. Gets difficult to follow the team when they lose more than they win.


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LakerZip wrote:
Thank you sincerely, Mr. Clown for the repp. Sometimes, clarity of thought is hard to understand. It is so easy for us to look at the Lakers, and see the obvious. Why can't they see it? Jim Buss would have to be a total idiot to not know how the fans feel about his recent decisionmaking. The real question is why can't the Lakers owners see it? Whoever will benefit from the team having a bigger following, selling season tickets out faster, and selling more jerseys should be able to see exactly what we see. The Lakers....


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Although it makes me laugh at the thought of it, I can't imagine giving that much power to the masses. Too much profit in private ownership to let that slip through their hands.

Fans in every sport love to yell at their ownership and management. They also love to decide everything, and complain when the ownership or management don't do it their way. That's half of the fun of being a fan. If your commands were followed, it would likely become more pressure, and less fun. How can you yell at yourself for the decisions you participated in making? I guess we could yell at each other for being so stupid too!

In a capitalistic society, our dollars are supposed to determine the actions taken. But here, we throw a lot of cash at it, but there is no response. Just like our government today. So yes, we yell at Jimmy Boy. He is responsible and he is making the bad decisions today. In other eras, we complained about other people - sometimes it was Kobe - sometimes it was Shaq - sometimes it was Andrew - sometimes it was Phil - yes, even Phil incurred Laker fan wrath. In LA, winning is what we pay for and what we expect. Anything less than that is a disappointment. Oh, and by the way, we don't just want wins. We want great play along the way! And don't forget that all the wins in the world mean nothing if LA does not win a championship. We aren't asking much of them, are we?

That being said, Jimmy Boy has not demonstrated the mental power to blow his nose, to this point. Let's hope he eats some magic mushrooms and becomes enlightened. It couldn't get much worse, could it?


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^...And all, most likely, because he was the only one, who would spend the time, to go out and play poker with his dad.

It never ceases to amaze me.


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Jerry Buss was smart enough to know that he could not take it with him, and that his heirs were nowhere near his ability to evaluate situations and make competent decisions. He also knew that Jimmy Boy would have sued, if Jeanie was left in charge of the entire organization, and that would have been a disaster for the continuity of the team.

His only options were severely limited. Apparently, of his children, Jimmy Boy was more capable than the rest (except his sister). Unfortunately, he didn't trust Magic's judgment enough to make him the Trustee of the team. So there it goes. Most of us have kids who are losers and aren't going to carry on our legacy. So what are you going to do with your property when you die? If your kids are not worthy, you still have a great feeling of obligation to leave them what you have created, and let the chips fall where they may.

You can only control so much from the grave. Jimmy Boy will tire of this toy eventually, and Jeanie will find herself in a position to pick up his job too. Then, Phil will be responsible for talent selection, and the world will be a happy place. Until then, we are going to be tortured repeatedly, by an incompetent leader who has omnipotent power. Jimmy Boy Buss, the Wizard of LA. Just don't look behind the curtain, or you will see that he's just a bumbling, mumbling idiot, and not a wizard at all.

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^Aaaaahhh, YES...

Jimmie-Boy Short-Buss; the mumbling, bumblest, blatherer of them all!!!

Well, at least he has Chazz.


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