Dr. J -' The Lakers Tricked the Sixers into Trading for AB.'

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a2j1m
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Last summer the Lakers had big plans to bring in new superstar talent to in turn help Kobe make one last championship run before walking away from the game that he grew up playing. Among those moves were bringing in All-Star point guard Steve Nash to give Kobe the point guard he never had, but the biggest move was acquiring superstar center Dwight Howard from the Orlando Magic in a three team trade between the Philadelphia 76ers, Orlando Magic and Denver Nuggets. In turn for Howard, the Lakers sent All-Star center Andrew Bynum to the 76ers. Although the 2012-13 season was certainly....


a2j1m
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Sorry for abbreviating Andrew Bynum but his name wouldn't fit.


IhatetheCeltics
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I don't understand how they tricked them into trading for Bynum when everyone and the whole world knew he had knee problems. It's the reason Orlando didn't trade for him. They were smart.


seasonticketholda
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Imagine landing Igoudala, Vucevic, Bad Contract, and 2 picks for Bynum rather than getting Howard....

LTB would have blown up!

Nash

KB

Iggy

Pau

Vucevic

Lol, that starting lineup looks pretty baller to me. No crying for touches from Vucevic, we get a flying wing and great team player in Iggy, Pau gets the majority of touches down low, KB gets his and Nash gets to orchestrate. Hard working team and some future picks.... Old Hindsight Bias has me dreaming of what could have been.. building a solid team in the "now" while preserving the ability to draft more talent and not left-overs.


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IhatetheCeltics wrote:
I don't understand how they tricked them into trading for Bynum when everyone and the whole world knew he had knee problems. It's the reason Orlando didn't trade for him. They were smart.

Doc knows they weren't tricked. He's just a loyal 76er and don't want to call them foolish for doing the deal.


maraud
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The Lakers may be the big loser if Howard signs elsewhere but we knew the risk and took it. We are not saying that we were tricked and neither should Philly. Dr. J should know- let the buyer beware on any transaction. 76ers obviously did not do their do diligence and no one forced Drew on them. As for Dr. J he is just being a Horses a$$.


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They should've known, they also should've known that Vucevic was worth more than the 2mpg they gave him, trying to push Lavoy Allen or whoever over the top...now they are just sour.

Orlando knew, and were smart, now they've got tons of assets.

Funny how when the deal went down, they were pictured as the ones who got robbed for their star players and came up short while trying to pull a "Melo" type deal etc...

Guess, they weren't that wrong on the deal they made. Sure came up better than any other team in the long term, since Iggy can walk away from Denver.


TheDiesel
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This either means we are incredibly clever, or they're incredibly dumb. Then again, we hired Mike D'Antoni as the coach.


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It makes no sense. The last time the Lakers saw Bynum play he was in terrific health and he played every game of the season, except for the 1st 5 games he was suspended after knocking down Barea. Bynum finished off the season healthy. He didn't have any problems until he went to Germany for his knee procedure, which helped many others, but seemed to do the opposite for him. It just proves that the German miracle isn't a miracle to everyone.


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Caveat emptor. Buyer beware. Hennigan initially took so much heat in the Orlando community for not trading for AB, but he was by far the smartest one in the whole deal. He refused to go after Bynum and said he had inside information that made him shy away from having any part of him.


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If you didn't know AB had bum knees then your just incompetent. It would be a little more understandable to complain about his attitude, lack of heart, a horrible team mate, but bum knees is completely ridicules. They took a gamble and they crapped out


a2j1m
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But it's not like Bynum is completely done for though ? I'd still sign the guy and take the chance. He's a special player with raw talent and one of a kind. I wouldn't be surprised if Houston goes after him if they can't get Howard.


trialsNtribulations
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^How convenient. The Lakers didn't trick anyone and they did their physical so they were the ones who took the gamble unfortunately did not pay off -- hell we took a gamble too with D12 having had back surgery..its the business..win some, lose some. Mofos want to talk trickery, let's not bring up what the NBA and Stern's goons did to us last year??? Go head with that, we didn't trick anyone, we made a wise business decision....Its all moot, we are not playing for a championship, and thats always the goal...


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hopefully Bynum can rebound his career. with his talent it was a waste. in the trade you always want to have the better of the rest of the deal. this is why there are losers and winners of the deal. maybe Dr.J doesn't know about this. he wasn't saying they were tricked but admitting they got the damaged goods speaks the volume.


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Tricked definitely is far fetched. Most teams conduct physicals with their own medical personnel to protect themselves. Erving played ball he should know that. He must be getting too buzzed from crown royal since he is a spokesman now.


jackle
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It's more like AB tricked the NBA into thinking he was healthy.


SaVaGe-DeF
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Where the Sixers FO living under a rock!! EVERYBODY knew that Bynum had messed up knees!


RustyRay
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Shame on the sixers if they didn't protect themselves...its called having players checked out by doctors...and if they didn't bother to check bynum out they have nobody to blame but themselves.


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Remember all the Lakers fans on this board who were saying we should keep Bynum over Dwight? Dwight may not stay, but Bynum would have been absolutely useless this past season.


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Its a big secret bynum is immature injury prone with bad knees and an even worse attitude. He only displayed it all over national tv with one of tha most watched basketball teams. Lol. Hes great when he wants to be....maybe they seeen that.


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Its a big secret bynum is immature injury prone with bad knees and an even worse attitude. He only displayed it all over national tv with one of tha most watched basketball teams. Lol. Hes great when he wants to be....maybe they seeen that.


seasonticketholda
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Hey, if you were Philadelphia and wanted to position yourself to be a title contender, then getting a top 2 center with championship experience isn't a bad gamble. Bynums knee issues were a concern for sure, but with bigger risk comes bigger reward. The result was unfortunate for the Sixers and the Lakers in my opinion. Even with Bynums pre-existing knee issues, which were public, it tarnishes the future trading endeavors involving the franchise. I don't think the Lakers necessarily traded Bynum because of his knee issues, but rather because Dwight was an exceptional prospect who was looking for a new beginning. With that said, what happened was not foreseeable, and the only good thing for Philly was that Bynum was not under a heavy contract. Philly and Los Angeles both didn't make a title run and are both in a predicament where they could have both assets gone by next seasons start.


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113 wrote:
Remember all the Lakers fans on this board who were saying we should keep Bynum over Dwight? Dwight may not stay, but Bynum would have been absolutely useless this past season.

Please let it go. I was one of those fans who said that and still you seem to do your best work in hindsight. That's all that it is, hindsight. What us fans wer saying was going from Bynum to Howard is a lateral move, what weaknesses does it address? As you can see by this past season the Lakers biggest weaknesses are a lack of good perimeter players. Sheesh.


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If I had a time machine, even knowing full well how things turned out, that Bynum didn't play last season and Dwight did. If I went back in time, I still wouldn't want to trade Bynum for Dwight. If anything, I would have wanted some other kind of deal to go down involving Bynum. I don't like Dwight Howard as a person(taking into account that he's just some celeb that I don't really know, but what I do know and have seen from him, I don't like), which I guess really shouldn't matter. However, I also find him highly overrated and over-hyped as a basketball player. Personally, I am hoping he either goes somewhere else, or we do re-sign him and then trade him later. Though the latter is probably highly unlikely, due to all of that hype he has going for him.

Personally, if the Dwight trade never happened and no other deal was done involving Bynum. I would have rather had Bynum riding the pine all last season than Dwight playing. That's just how I feel about it. I don't feel silly or stupid for not wanting that trade to happen, and I don't feel like anyone who did want it to happen has been vindicated by the fact that Bynum didn't play.

On topic: The 76ers knew the risk when they signed off on the trade, end of story.


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