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There's gonna be a bunch of information that'll start to come in regarding the draft so I think it's probably better if we keep it all in one thread. Any news you find about the draft please post it here, thanks.

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The Los Angeles Lakers met with Nate Wolters and Adonis Thomas among other prospects on the first day of the combine.

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Arsalan Kazemi: Thank you Lakers for having me today for my first pre-draft workout

Yannis Koutroupis: Former ND power forward Jack Cooley had a strong showing in a workout with the Los Angeles Lakers today. Made over 60 percent from NBA 3.

Yannis Koutroupis: Former ND power forward Jack Cooley had a strong showing in a workout with the Los Angeles Lakers today. Made over 60 percent from NBA 3.

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Do we even have draft picks.?

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Brandon Paul, Vander Blue, or Seth Curry.

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If Seth curry is anything like his brother, minus the tissue ankles, he's welcome in laker nation.

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Do we even have draft picks.?

We have the 48th pick

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sevankb24 wrote:
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Do we even have draft picks.?

We have the 48th pick

Could trade up as well, nothing is really certain until Dwight either re-signs or goes elsewhere. I hope he gives the team some indication before the draft that way they can get some things happening.

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Could trade up as well, nothing is really certain until Dwight either re-signs or goes elsewhere. I hope he gives the team some indication before the draft that way they can get some things happening.

Not sure there is much we can do with the 48th pick.

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we all know how 2nd round picks worked out for the lakers. thank you Mitch, for giving up that pick to cavs and the suns.

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sevankb24 wrote:
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Could trade up as well, nothing is really certain until Dwight either re-signs or goes elsewhere. I hope he gives the team some indication before the draft that way they can get some things happening.

Not sure there is much we can do with the 48th pick.

Yea given how weak this draft supposedly is chances are the pick won't make the roster after camp. Then again, Goudelock was the 48th pick as well (or was it 46th?) and he ended up proving himself in the D-League and those last few playoff games.

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Yea given how weak this draft supposedly is chances are the pick won't make the roster after camp. Then again, Goudelock was the 48th pick as well (or was it 46th?) and he ended up proving himself in the D-League and those last few playoff games.

I think when it comes down to picking a player from the second round, especially in the 40+ range, the best thing to do is to just draft the best defensive player. I think Morris was the 44th, 46th, or 48th pick but he's a good defender and his offense will come within time. I think we end up keeping him.

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Yea given how weak this draft supposedly is chances are the pick won't make the roster after camp. Then again, Goudelock was the 48th pick as well (or was it 46th?) and he ended up proving himself in the D-League and those last few playoff games.

I think when it comes down to picking a player from the second round, especially in the 40+ range, the best thing to do is to just draft the best defensive player. I think Morris was the 44th, 46th, or 48th pick but he's a good defender and his offense will come within time. I think we end up keeping him.

Well if the player is good defensively then he'll have time to work on his offensive game if he makes the team. You're right, Morris was the later pick. I think that if there is a player available that plays SF, can defend and shoot the 3 ball then that's the perfect fit for this team. Those guys seem to be really making a mark on teams nowadays (look at Battier, Leonard, Pondexter, Green etc). We used to have Artest who could do that but I'm pretty sure he's done as a Laker (unless he opts out and signs a smaller, long-term deal).

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L4K, that's not possible. ALL teams covet those kind of players. Shooters w/ Defense usually go around 26-35. Bigs who will stay abroad to improve come in from 36 to 43. What you get from 44 down are usually just under-sized shooting guards and or project big-men from what I've seen recently. That said, based on mock drafts on DraftXpress and NBADraft(dot)net, Reggie Bullock seems to be the guy to go after if you want a shooter. As for a wing player who can defend, it's gonna have to be Livio Jean-Charles.

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L4K, that's not possible. ALL teams covet those kind of players. Shooters w/ Defense usually go around 26-35. Bigs who will stay abroad to improve come in from 36 to 43. What you get from 44 down are usually just under-sized shooting guards and or project big-men from what I've seen recently. That said, based on mock drafts on DraftXpress and NBADraft(dot)net, Reggie Bullock seems to be the guy to go after if you want a shooter. As for a wing player who can defend, it's gonna have to be Livio Jean-Charles.

Yep, I know those guys go pretty quickly, but it is a player that this team needs, and all the best teams have a guy that fits that role, and since we have no trade assets the draft is the best, most inexpensive way to do so but yea, obviously those guys are good enough that they get drafted higher. Just need to hope that there's a guy under the radar that blossoms into that sort of player.

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One of the mecurial things about THIS particular draft is that with so many Euro-players declaring, that it MIGHT shift a player down that the Lakers can develop. Seth Curry may be that player but I see him going in the earlier part of the second round. Not a big fan of Adonis Thomas. Watched him in college and he is a shorter version of Ebanks. Not much as far as BB IQ and should have stayed in school.

Dream scenerio: a young euro-prospect with a great upside or a kid that was looked as a first rounder or very early second rounder gets pushed down to the 48th pick and the Lakers snatch that player up and let them develop.

Reality: A Euro-player with no upside and a name we won't be able to pronounce or care about.

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Sometimes, rarely, you find real nice players later in draft. Ginobli, Isiah Thomas, etc. We;ll see.

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Tim Hardaway Jr.

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^^^^Tim would be nice. He is all over the draft board, from late first rounder to early second rounder. Love to see us get him. Solid plsyer.

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sevankb24 wrote:
If Seth curry is anything like his brother, minus the tissue ankles, he's welcome in laker nation.

Yeah sometimes it just runs in the family, look at Marc Gasol and how he turned out to be. Would be nice to have a mini Steph Curry on our team haha

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If Seth curry is anything like his brother, minus the tissue ankles, he's welcome in laker nation.

Yeah sometimes it just runs in the family, look at Marc Gasol and how he turned out to be. Would be nice to have a mini Steph Curry on our team haha

I believe he had ankle surgery after Duke got eliminated.

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^^^^He had surgery on lower right leg in April. I will say he is a tough player and looked good in Pro-Am games. But the thing is how different is he from G-Lock or Meeks, for that matter? I will say he is a winner and is a tough player, but the Lakers don't have alot to choose from at this point and MAYBE a player can fall to this spot...kind of doubt it, though.

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Yeah he had, but he is already active again and is schedueled for the draft combine right now on espn2 (as I post this shooting guards are on the court). He is different from G-Lock and Meeks, he plays PG like his brother. Two years ago, I found him interesting when he played as the replacement for Kyrie Irving after he got injured, haven't watched him afterwards, so don't know if he'll drop as far as we'll need him to.

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lakerdudeinindy wrote:
^^^^He had surgery on lower right leg in April. I will say he is a tough player and looked good in Pro-Am games. But the thing is how different is he from G-Lock or Meeks, for that matter? I will say he is a winner and is a tough player, but the Lakers don't have alot to choose from at this point and MAYBE a player can fall to this spot...kind of doubt it, though.

True, but he has his family to show what kind of player he can be. I think if he works hard enough and have Kobe tutor him he can be something good.

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I compiled a small list of guys that are intersting enough and who I think may be still be available/drop enough spots when Lakers are on the clock with their only pick.

PG

Myck Kabongo

Nate Wolters

Pierre Jackson

SG

Allen Craabe

Archie Goodwin

Glen Rice Jr.

Brandon Paul

BJ Young

SF

Ricardo Ledo

James Ennis

Solomon Hill

No good big guys by that time I'd say, also I don't think it's the Lakers direction or interest picking someone who isn't a perimeter player.

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Kannaps wrote:
I compiled a small list of guys that are intersting enough and who I think may be still be available/drop enough spots when Lakers are on the clock with their only pick.

PG

Myck Kabongo

Nate Wolters

Pierre Jackson

SG

Allen Craabe

Archie Goodwin

Glen Rice Jr.

Brandon Paul

BJ Young

SF

Ricardo Ledo

James Ennis

Solomon Hill

No good big guys by that time I'd say, also I don't think it's the Lakers direction or interest picking someone who isn't a perimeter player.

Archie Goodwin might have dropped a lot after his workout. He miss a lot of shots.

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His shot isn't good anyway, but his athleticism is great. Kabongo has been dropping too as of late.

Bj Young might have gone up, even undersized, a lot of buzz around him being a good combo guard prospect. His workouts went ok enough too, need to improv shot off-drible.

A lot of teams seem high on Ledo too, but who knows.

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Kannaps wrote:
I compiled a small list of guys that are intersting enough and who I think may be still be available/drop enough spots when Lakers are on the clock with their only pick.

PG

Myck Kabongo

Nate Wolters

Pierre Jackson

SG

Allen Craabe

Archie Goodwin

Glen Rice Jr.

Brandon Paul

BJ Young

SF

Ricardo Ledo

James Ennis

Solomon Hill

No good big guys by that time I'd say, also I don't think it's the Lakers direction or interest picking someone who isn't a perimeter player.

that's a very good list with the exceptions of kabongo,goodwin,crabbe and rice Jr. those guys will likely be gone way before than.

Ricardo ledo has a ton of upside for a guy that might not even get drafted. there's alot of questions about him considering he didn't even play this year.

a couple of guys that I'd add would be Reggie bullock and Ryan Kelly. those two guys are projected by most mocks as middle second rounders and they fit two areas of need. bullock is a d&3 player. he defends and hits 3ptrs and he has the size to play both sg and sf at 6'7. Ryan Kelly would be the true stretch pf that this team needs plus he isn't undersized like other stretch 4s. and also Seth curry is nothing more than Andrew goudelock with a famous brother. no real difference in talent if you actually watched them.both play in college.

the ideal situation for the Lakers would be to somehow acquire a late first rounder or even a lotto pick via a gasol trade. but that's getting ahead of the point.

with the Lakers luck in the second.round and this being a relatively weak draft don't expect anything spectacular. if we come out of this draft with a decent 9 man that's as good as its gonna get unfortunately.

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Just draft a Euro dude with upside that comes in 3 yrs .. Ala Splitter from the Spurs

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Just draft a Euro dude with upside that comes in 3 yrs .. Ala Splitter from the Spurs

There's great european players in this years draft, but most will actually go pretty early.

Sergey Karasev would be great for us, but he shouldn't be there after mid-1st round.

Speaking of european players, does anyone know when Kostas Papanikolau from Olympiakos will come over? I know his rights belong to the Blazers after the Felton trade with Ny, but maybe they'd be willing to negotiate them with us in a trade.

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Kannaps wrote:
TERRY-TEAGLE wrote:
Just draft a Euro dude with upside that comes in 3 yrs .. Ala Splitter from the Spurs

There's great european players in this years draft, but most will actually go pretty early.

Sergey Karasev would be great for us, but he shouldn't be there after mid-1st round.

Speaking of european players, does anyone know when Kostas Papanikolau from Olympiakos will come over? I know his rights belong to the Blazers after the Felton trade with Ny, but maybe they'd be willing to negotiate them with us in a trade.

This kid is on point and he is trying to come over and play. It would be nice IF the Lakers could pull a Whodini and get this kid.

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A realistic choice is Peyton Siva. He's projected to be a late second rounder or not drafted at all. He's quick and plays amazing defense. My dream pick would be Trey Burke tho.

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A realistic choice is Peyton Siva. He's projected to be a late second rounder or not drafted at all. He's quick and plays amazing defense. My dream pick would be Trey Burke tho.

I would like Siva on this team, he plays with a lot of heart and energy.

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NBA Notes: Lakers, Hawks may aim for pre-draft strike SAM AMICO | Published: Thursday, May 16, 2013, 11:03pm | 0 Comments With the NBA Draft Combine in full swing, and teams hoping to find the next big thing (or at least a guy who can contribute off the bench), the hubbub has officially begun. The combine tipped off Wednesday, and while the talk is usually centered on which teams interviewed which top prospects, and who's not quite as tall without shoes (always a shocking occurrence), most of the noise among insiders is taking place off the floor. Coaching changes, free agency and the approaching draft lottery are among the hot topics -- especially when it comes to teams outside the lottery trying to wiggle their way in. The Los Angeles Lakers and Atlanta Hawks are said to be two such teams, with both supposedly exploring the idea of improving their draft position. Interestingly, both face some major free-agent decisions. None of those can take place until July 1 at the earliest -- or about a week after the June 27 draft. The Lakers, of course, will attempt to come to terms with All-Star center Dwight Howard, who is expected to receive a maximum offer from the club. Meanwhile, the Hawks embark on the offseason with a whopping seven unrestricted free agents, highlighted by power forward Josh Smith. It's believed that Hawks general manager Danny Ferry is aiming to reshape the entire roster. The Hawks own back-to-back picks in the first round (Nos. 17 and 18), and may be willing to package them together for the sake of moving up, insiders said. As for the Lakers, their lone pick doesn't come until midway through the second round (No. 48 overall). But, as usual, they're supposedly willing to trade big man Pau Gasol in attempt to get younger. That may....

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lakerdudeinindy wrote:
Kannaps wrote:
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Just draft a Euro dude with upside that comes in 3 yrs .. Ala Splitter from the Spurs

There's great european players in this years draft, but most will actually go pretty early.

Sergey Karasev would be great for us, but he shouldn't be there after mid-1st round.

Speaking of european players, does anyone know when Kostas Papanikolau from Olympiakos will come over? I know his rights belong to the Blazers after the Felton trade with Ny, but maybe they'd be willing to negotiate them with us in a trade.

This kid is on point and he is trying to come over and play. It would be nice IF the Lakers could pull a Whodini and get this kid.

I'd take Pau for Batum + rights to Kostas Papanikolau and Eric Maynor. Heck, i'd take Joel Freelands crappy contract from them in that deal. Can't picture a lot better deal we'd get for Pau, in case a trade for him is really going down.

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The Lakers gave away most of their picks to attain retired or semi retired players. We almost never get any useful players in 5the draft because we are always drawing form the bottom of the barrel. Only through trading do we get anyone useful so do not get too hyped by this or any other yearly draft.

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could brandon paul play the pg position in the nba? i haven't got to see him play that much

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The Blazers are apparently looking to move their pick for immediate help at the center position. Perhaps a Gasol deal packaged around Batum, pick and filler?

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Sam Amico last year said a lot of things about the Lakers and draft picks they wanted to trade up to but at the end of the night they got DJO and Sacre. I won't believe it until I see it.

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Three second round players I like are Tim Hardaway Jr, James Ennis and Erick Murphy. Hardaway has good size and athleticism. If Ennis could work on his ball handling and defensive focus, his physical attributes(7' wingspan and 7' high jump + speed) would be ideal at sf. Murphy was probably the best 3 pt shooting big man in the country this year and I could see him being a Matt Bonner type player if used correctly.

The question is, how do we get these guys with only one late second round pick? We would have to take on someone else's undesirable contracts. Portland has three second round picks and one underperforming Brit whose contract they would like to unload. We have a pg who is only guarunteed 1.5 million next year. They swoop on that deal and throw in a pick. Just like that we have Hardaway

and Joel Freeland(who is actually a hard worker with a good mid range jumper). Toronto has too many wings and they overpaid for Landry Fields to try to lure Steve Nash north. We have a probably opting in MWP with only one year on his deal. Toronto jumps at the opportunity to give us a second rounder. Fields is a very good, active defender who rebounds very well for his position. He has shown in the past the abilty to hit the three at a high rate and would be a good building block going forward. We use our two picks on Ennis and Murphy and we suddenly have the makings of a decent bench with players with well defined roles for the future. Instead of spending money on older vets, we spend a third of their salaries on young developing talent.

Just some thoughts.

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The Blazers are apparently looking to move their pick for immediate help at the center position. Perhaps a Gasol deal packaged around Batum, pick and filler?

From what I heard, they want a defensive minded center but I'm not sure where they're going to get one of those from. If they were to take gasol then I would happily take a package deal around batum. Great defender and a better replacement for the sf position once MWP is out. Also relatively young. However, his comtract extension affects our 2014 plan.

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mcbill wrote:
Three second round players I like are Tim Hardaway Jr, James Ennis and Erick Murphy. Hardaway has good size and athleticism. If Ennis could work on his ball handling and defensive focus, his physical attributes(7' wingspan and 7' high jump + speed) would be ideal at sf. Murphy was probably the best 3 pt shooting big man in the country this year and I could see him being a Matt Bonner type player if used correctly.

The question is, how do we get these guys with only one late second round pick? We would have to take on someone else's undesirable contracts. Portland has three second round picks and one underperforming Brit whose contract they would like to unload. We have a pg who is only guarunteed 1.5 million next year. They swoop on that deal and throw in a pick. Just like that we have Hardaway

and Joel Freeland(who is actually a hard worker with a good mid range jumper). Toronto has too many wings and they overpaid for Landry Fields to try to lure Steve Nash north. We have a probably opting in MWP with only one year on his deal. Toronto jumps at the opportunity to give us a second rounder. Fields is a very good, active defender who rebounds very well for his position. He has shown in the past the abilty to hit the three at a high rate and would be a good building block going forward. We use our two picks on Ennis and Murphy and we suddenly have the makings of a decent bench with players with well defined roles for the future. Instead of spending money on older vets, we spend a third of their salaries on young developing talent.

Just some thoughts.

Tim Hardaway Jr is probably going in the late first or early 2nd round the other two you mention aren't even on some mock drafts they'll probably be late 2nd rounders or go undrafted. Lakers don't have to trade for bad contracts and a late 2nd round pick since they could buy one like they did last time when they bought the rights to DJO.

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lakers52761 wrote:
could brandon paul play the pg position in the nba? i haven't got to see him play that much

in short spurts maybe. he doesn't have the ball handling or playmaking abilities to do it full time from what I saw in college. he has good size for a combo guard at 6'4 with a good wingspan. and he's above average athletically. so he could develope into a decent backup which isn't bad. he's actually improved his spot up shooting as well so he might surprise someone and make an nba team.

he's a natural scorer by natureand that's where he will make his mark in the nba IF he makes a team.

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The Blazers are apparently looking to move their pick for immediate help at the center position. Perhaps a Gasol deal packaged around Batum, pick and filler?
From what I heard, they want a defensive minded center but I'm not sure where they're going to get one of those from. If they were to take gasol then I would happily take a package deal around batum. Great defender and a better replacement for the sf position once MWP is out. Also relatively young. However, his comtract extension affects our 2014 plan.
I am on the fence about trading Pau. I don't know where....

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No way in hell they trade BATUM for PAU ... You guys smoking that good CALI weed I you think that

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No way in hell they trade BATUM for PAU ... You guys smoking that good CALI weed I you think that

Not just batum lol. If they have good picks then I would want one or two also.

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IF it is true what Sam Amico is reporting I wonder what Lottery pick the Lakers are looking at?


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