Pau Gasol to Ask for Trade at Season's End? (P. 2)

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mhf94
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SourceCode wrote:

to add a little to this; not only have nash, kobe, and dwight made adjustments, d'antoni has as well; he has slowed the pace down more and goes to the post more; he also have limited kobe's minutes. hell, even metta came off the bench, even though that's not necessarily what he wanted, but he did it if that means, the team becomes better. what about jamison getting DNP for the 1st time in his career? the list goes on.

in order to be successful, you have to make the proper adjustment, and the players have to be willing to make those adjustments. I understand if pau was the sole player that was forced to make an adjustment, but no, everybody has, and i'm glad he said he wasn't going to allow it to effect his game, but he needs to stop complaining, because that only adds friction that at this point, the lakers really don't need.

I'm sorry, but I can't see how D'Antoni has made adjustments for the sake of the team. He made adjustments for the sake of his system. He made MWP come off the bench because he needed him to be a 4. He left Jamison out of the rotation because he likes very short rotations and he already had MWP, Pau and Dwight (and Hill somewhat) as the bigs, he didn't want another one. HE hasn't slowed down the pace. The players have. It was their own adjustment and their own decision to alter systems and "go back to the basics" as Kobe put it. Gasol said it himself, they aren't playing the coach's system, they're playing their own.

He can't really control if a guy gets the ball in the post, and even if he did, I wouldn't consider that an adjustment at all. I mean he has 3 of the best post players in the nba, only a true dumbshit would make it clear that there would be no post play. Kobe's still playing around 38,39 mins a game. Not that much of a cut.

To me, his adjustments were: not being able to play Pau and Dwight together; making Pau come off the bench; making Kobe play small forward; ridiculing Pau several times; changing from Meeks to Morris; changing from Morris to Meeks; changing from Meeks to Morris; changing from Morris to Meeks.

AChad92
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lol'd

SourceCode
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mhf94 wrote:
SourceCode wrote:

to add a little to this; not only have nash, kobe, and dwight made adjustments, d'antoni has as well; he has slowed the pace down more and goes to the post more; he also have limited kobe's minutes. hell, even metta came off the bench, even though that's not necessarily what he wanted, but he did it if that means, the team becomes better. what about jamison getting DNP for the 1st time in his career? the list goes on.

in order to be successful, you have to make the proper adjustment, and the players have to be willing to make those adjustments. I understand if pau was the sole player that was forced to make an adjustment, but no, everybody has, and i'm glad he said he wasn't going to allow it to effect his game, but he needs to stop complaining, because that only adds friction that at this point, the lakers really don't need.

I'm sorry, but I can't see how D'Antoni has made adjustments for the sake of the team. He made adjustments for the sake of his system. He made MWP come off the bench because he needed him to be a 4. He left Jamison out of the rotation because he likes very short rotations and he already had MWP, Pau and Dwight (and Hill somewhat) as the bigs, he didn't want another one. HE hasn't slowed down the pace. The players have. It was their own adjustment and their own decision to alter systems and "go back to the basics" as Kobe put it. Gasol said it himself, they aren't playing the coach's system, they're playing their own.

He can't really control if a guy gets the ball in the post, and even if he did, I wouldn't consider that an adjustment at all. I mean he has 3 of the best post players in the nba, only a true dumbshit would make it clear that there would be no post play. Kobe's still playing around 38,39 mins a game. Not that much of a cut.

To me, his adjustments were: not being able to play Pau and Dwight together; making Pau come off the bench; making Kobe play small forward; ridiculing Pau several times; changing from Meeks to Morris; changing from Morris to Meeks; changing from Meeks to Morris; changing from Morris to Meeks.

you may be right, but the team runs at a slower pace, they do more post, he has limited kobe's minutes; That's an adjustment that is benefiting the team. Whether you wanna say it's the players, it still was adjustment within d'antoni's system (or not his system) that he's rolling with and not complaining about, vs before, he was stubborn and did not wanna change anything about his system.

Lakeshow07
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http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a3j56fh

Very unlikely but it seems pretty fair to me

SuperNutz
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[/quote="SourceCode"][quote="mhf94"]

SourceCode wrote:

I told you the adjustment that d'antoni has made for the sake of the team, in my post. The team runs at a slower pace, they do more post, he has limited kobe's minutes. That's an adjustment that is benefiting the team. Whether you wanna say it's the players, it still was adjustment within d'antoni's system that he's rolling with and not complaining about, vs before, he was stubborn and did not wanna change his system.

SC I don't think he made any adjustment, the player end up running their own system which is basically the triangle, we were on a losing streak then so Antoni have no choice but to let Kobe run his thing.

SourceCode
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[quote="SuperNutz"][/quote="SourceCode"]

mhf94 wrote:
SourceCode wrote:

I told you the adjustment that d'antoni has made for the sake of the team, in my post. The team runs at a slower pace, they do more post, he has limited kobe's minutes. That's an adjustment that is benefiting the team. Whether you wanna say it's the players, it still was adjustment within d'antoni's system that he's rolling with and not complaining about, vs before, he was stubborn and did not wanna change his system.

SC I don't think he made any adjustment, the player end up running their own system which is basically the triangle, we were on a losing streak then so Antoni have no choice but to let Kobe run his thing.

Kobe system lol

laker083234
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basketman wrote:
laker083234 wrote:
Gasol will get killed by Durant, James, Griffin and all guards in perimeter pick and roll.

But why is Pau being faulted for something a majority of 4s can't do?

Its not pau's fault. its the changing of the league and we have to adapt. we cant win in this league with twin towers on the floor at the same time. Its a defensive liability against most the elite teams.

Its not paus fault at all. Its just a sad truth that deffensively him and howard on the floor together is a liability.

laker083234
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TEAMLakers wrote:
mhf94 wrote:
Shepherd wrote:

Ah yes the old twin towers theory. Well it didn't work when AB was in LA either. Because Pau isn't really a 4, he's not athletic of strong enough. He's a natural 5, which he admits to himself. So finding room in the post for him and a center has not been a successful experiment. As much as it makes everyone salivate at the prospect. Waste of time. Better he come off the bench as their anchor, as I said 2 seasons ago. If Pau is still the best PF is the NBA then why is he being outplayed by Clark? Why can he stop no one on D?

Duncan also plays mostly at the 5 nowadays and he played there a lot throughtout his career, yet the twin towers, with him and Robinson worked perfectly. Why is that?

Simple answer... THE COACH!!!!

Different league. It has changed to small ball. The league has changed and the twin towers idea is the odd man out defensive liability

SourceCode
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delete.

sevankb24
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I find it funny how Pau is saying how he will ask for a trade next season if Dwight and Dantoni are still here. The man has been in trade rumors for a couple years already and has literally been traded once. Him asking for a trade isnt intimidating one bit for the Lakers. He is going to get traded either way. Whether it is at the deadline( which i doubt because hes our insurance incase Dwight leaves) or in the offseason(more likely since he would be an expiring contract that year raising his value). Point is, he will be traded either way. The lakers arent going to let Gasols contract run out with the team. Gasol will resign somewhere else because he knows that the trade rumors will come up again within time if he resigns with the Lakers. I dont see Pau being traded at the deadline, Im putting all my money on him being traded in the offseason.


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