The Official Kobe Bryant vs Andrew Bynum Thread

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lakeshowsd
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Should it be Bynum's team? Should it be Kobe's team? Who's the better player between Kobe and Bynum? Who's the more important player, or the more valuable player? Who should be the top scoring option? We've seen these threads pop up constantly for the last few years; especially this season. The debates have become stale, and many of the comments on both the Kobe side and the Drew side have become redundant and predictable at this point.

Furthermore, I've noticed a lot of complaints from long time members who are tired of seeing all the Kobe VS Bynum comments spread about the LTB. So, I figured I could make this thread. I want to encourage the mods to take any threads that evolve into Kobe VS Drew type debates and merge them with this thread.

Perhaps if we consolidate most of the Kobe VS Drew comments/debates/arguments to this one thread, the majority of site members who don't like those discussions won't have to see them anywhere but here.

Thoughts?

kbp24
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As long as the Lakers win, who cares who's team it is!

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MSDS
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Its Bynum's... the lakers season and championship aspirations rest on his shoulders

onion
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i thought people were tired of this. are you brainful? mods delete this thread, an id go as far as ssaying delete this member off the website

onion
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its kobe btw bynum sucks

MSDS
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yeah kobe stinks

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onion wrote:
its kobe btw bynum sucks

yeah kobe stinks just like onions

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I don't like to see this cap either.... Its through Lakers vs Nuggets.... Not Lakers vs Lakers.

AChad92
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Well onion clearly didn't read your post as I did. I like this thread. As long as we don't see debates anywhere else on the site as you suggested, it's good. It's always going to be Kobe's team though, until he says so himself or when he retires.

MSDS
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admit it your just allergic to Bynum's rise to the throne.. just deal with it.

thatguyoverthere
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It is the Lakers' team.

Where.LA.Happens
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Its both of them. I bet if you took Bynum out of our team we wouldn't get a championship.

Same if we took Kobe out of the team, we wouldn't win a championship.

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Some of you guys didn't even read the original post, but whatever. It's still a good idea to consolidate all the Kobe VS Drew talk to this one official thread. That way it doesn't dominate the forum with countless different threads containing the same old arguments. Keep it here, I say.

Abaloz
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Not this shiiit again, who cares... Like the person above me said.. As long as theyre winning. Do Drew supporters really want that recognition and credit to rub it in the Kobeholics and Anti-Drew crew?

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MSDS wrote:
yeah kobe stinks

I thought Trolling wasn't allowed here...Where are the MODS?

Abaloz
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But then again, the Kobeholics always disrespect the Drew-Crew viceversa... Its gona b never ending until kobe is gone

MSDS
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DaAssasins wrote:
MSDS wrote:
yeah kobe stinks

I thought Trolling wasn't allowed here...Where are the MODS?

I thought I was on your ignored list.... u can help it when u see Bynums name huh

Youll get used to Bynum the franchise player sooner than later.. trust me

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AWWWW Mannnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

will_lakers22
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wow, shame that we have this thread, for me, it doesn't matter who is better, they are both a Laker and my only concern if for the Lakers to win a championship and keep on winning, and statement of FACT. --- Jerry Buss' team. end of the story..

DaAssasins
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MSDS wrote:
DaAssasins wrote:
MSDS wrote:
yeah kobe stinks

I thought Trolling wasn't allowed here...Where are the MODS?

I thought I was on your ignored list.... u can help it when u see Bynums name huh

Youll get used to Bynum the franchise player sooner than later.. trust me

I think your talking about someone else, I dont have to put anyone on my ignore list, if they want to have an adjult conversation, without resorting to name calling or personal attacks, I'm more than willing.

By the way, I'm a Laker fan, been a Laker fan since 1980, I dont care who our franchise player is, as long as we win titles. But, as a true Laker fan, I know who are franchise player is, and who our role players are.

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this thread needs to be locked for the playoffs!!!

lakeshowsd
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Wow, I'm a little bit surprised at all the negative responses to this thread. I would have hoped that more LTB members would appreciate the opportunity to round up the majority of the Kobe VS Drew type posts and keep them mostly exclusive to this single thread, rather than spreading them about the LTB at random.

I guess not...

DaAssasins
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Well there shouldnt be a thread like this, especially during the playoffs. It's not about Kobe vs. Drew. Its about the Lakers vs. Nuggets, and then Lakers vs. Thunder thread.

SaVaGe-DeF
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I get the idea of cleaning up the forum of all these topics that become into Kobe vs Drew, but these comments/ topics shouldn't exist on this forum like JoelH said on top "It's Lakers vs Nuggets not Lakers vs Lakers." Heck Kobe and Bynum get a long why can't the fans?

MSDS
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DaAssasins,

Why u gunning after me dude... Im disappointed

gastank
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This is a great idea.

Asking people to stop debating Bynum v. Kobe is as futile as one camp trying to win over the other. At least this way other threads don't get polluted.

lakeshowsd
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gastank wrote:
This is a great idea.

Asking people to stop debating Bynum v. Kobe is as futile as one camp trying to win over the other. At least this way other threads don't get polluted.

Thank you gastank. At least a few people get the idea of this thread.

Now i'd like to see some mods merging the other Kobe VS Drew type threads here. I believe the "Bynum is the best player in the NBA" thread has taken a turn for Kobe VS Drew, so that thread should maybe be merged into this one.

gastank
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Also, just because you're a Lakers fan doesn't mean you need to be a fan of every player. If so, then everyone who called for the team to drop Kwame Brown & Luke Walton wouldn't have been 'real' Lakers fans.

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^^ Yup. I no longer pay attention to the "real laker fan" talk from certain members. If you watch most or all Laker games, know about the players, cheer for the team to win, etc... then you're a real Laker fan. These things are a given and it doesn't matter if you support certain players more than other players on the team. We have a few guys on these forums who constantly boast about being real laker fans, and constantly seek to condemn others for not being real Laker fans. To me, those guys appear to be the ones with the most insecurities concerning their Laker fanhood. Perhaps there's some inherent insecurity that comes with extreme bias. Who knows?

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EDIT

KS_v2
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LSD, don't bother with the likes thing anymore. That isn't a good parameter to judge whether a thread is good or bad anymore.

Good idea. I'm all for it. Gameday threads + This one would make life a hell of a lot more easier for others who are interested in other stuff but a lot harder for the mods to manage ( who cares lol? Razz )

I'm all for this. And a few of the guys who already posted need to read the OP again.

ihatehypefans
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Who the hell is this trolling MSDS dude. He just makes senseless, idiotic, one-sided, and meaningless comments. Seriously, his posts in all of the threads are annoying. Talk about being a closed-minded person.

DaAssasins
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lakeshowsd wrote:
^^ Yup. I no longer pay attention to the "real laker fan" talk from certain members. If you watch most or all Laker games, know about the players, cheer for the team to win, etc... then you're a real Laker fan. These things are a given and it doesn't matter if you support certain players more than other players on the team. We have a few guys on these forums who constantly boast about being real laker fans, and constantly seek to condemn others for not being real Laker fans. To me, those guys appear to be the ones with the most insecurities concerning their Laker fanhood. Perhaps there's some inherent insecurity that comes with extreme bias. Who knows?

Are these comments directed to me LSD?? Because I know you've been warned before.

Rhythms
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DaAssasins wrote:
Well there shouldnt be a thread like this, especially during the playoffs. It's not about Kobe vs. Drew. Its about the Lakers vs. Nuggets, and then Lakers vs. Thunder thread.

Why not? These comments clog up the regular game day threads. Keep them in one place. And other Laker Fans have their opinions on Kobe vs. Drew so to them it CAN be about Kobe vs Drew. It's pretty hard for two players to bring equal game to win the championship. There will always be a hero who stands out from the other. We are talking about the future of LA. And no, this is not a personal attack on you.

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DaAssasins wrote:

Are these comments directed to me LSD?? Because I know you've been warned before.

Warned for what? Did I mention your name? Did I talk about you personally? Nope, I was responding to gastank's post. Why do you ask? Do you feel that my comments apply to you?

DaAssasins
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Ok must of been a coincidence since I was the one who made that comment

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Kobe has 5 rings there for it's his team

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Is my team jerry buss

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I love this idea. From now on every "It's Kobe's team" or "It's Bynum's team" thread should definitely go in here. cool2

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DaAssasins wrote:
MSDS wrote:
yeah kobe stinks

I thought Trolling wasn't allowed here...Where are the MODS?

Per the rules, you can't troll against a member or the team- but no rule against trolling players. However there is an anti-spam and duplicate post rule so if a player-troll keeps posting the same sh*t over and over again, he could be banned for those rule violations.

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lakeshowsd wrote:
gastank wrote:
This is a great idea.

Asking people to stop debating Bynum v. Kobe is as futile as one camp trying to win over the other. At least this way other threads don't get polluted.

Thank you gastank. At least a few people get the idea of this thread.

Now i'd like to see some mods merging the other Kobe VS Drew type threads here. I believe the "Bynum is the best player in the NBA" thread has taken a turn for Kobe VS Drew, so that thread should maybe be merged into this one.

No merging dude. My threads posts that Bynum could be the best player in the NBA, not Kobe vs Bynum. You say I like to start fires lol. This takes the cake. More power to you Lakeshowsd.

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Dave wrote:
DaAssasins wrote:
MSDS wrote:
yeah kobe stinks

I thought Trolling wasn't allowed here...Where are the MODS?

Per the rules, you can't troll against a member or the team- but no rule against trolling players. However there is an anti-spam and duplicate post rule so if a player-troll keeps posting the same sh*t over and over again, he could be banned for those rule violations.

Why does DaAssasins always get love when he says posters are trolls or are "personally attacking" him? He sure has a way of getting people on his side. How does this happen Dave?

rekalAL
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IMO this thread should be close already....In the 1st place why such need for a thread....Kobe vs Drew...they are both purple n gold....

Can we have the 2 best player in the NBA on the same team? Smile

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Dave wrote:
DaAssasins wrote:
MSDS wrote:
yeah kobe stinks

I thought Trolling wasn't allowed here...Where are the MODS?

Per the rules, you can't troll against a member or the team- but no rule against trolling players. However there is an anti-spam and duplicate post rule so if a player-troll keeps posting the same sh*t over and over again, he could be banned for those rule violations.

Also, don't know how many times it has to be said, but if a poster does irk you, there is always the ignore button.

MSDS
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why are kobephiles so sensitive these days.. you guys should have a thick skin like your favorite player.. all of you should idolize pau now ahhhhhhhh.. joke lol

onion
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you guys are all fake laker fans. i disrespect you guys all. it is jordan farmars team and thats final. andrew bynum sucks. jordan hill is better than him. hill plays 20 min a game and gets more boards then bynum. trade bynum for some tenticals and some cheesy feet

lakeshowsd
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onion wrote:
you guys are all fake laker fans. i disrespect you guys all. it is jordan farmars team and thats final. andrew bynum sucks. jordan hill is better than him. hill plays 20 min a game and gets more boards then bynum. trade bynum for some tenticals and some cheesy feet

Looks like CharlesWidmore is back. LOL

MSDS
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Lol, Im not surprise what s in his mind, it goes by the nickname hahaha joke

thatguyoverthere
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lakeshowsd wrote:
onion wrote:
you guys are all fake laker fans. i disrespect you guys all. it is jordan farmars team and thats final. andrew bynum sucks. jordan hill is better than him. hill plays 20 min a game and gets more boards then bynum. trade bynum for some tenticals and some cheesy feet

Looks like CharlesWidmore is back. LOL

It's not Charles_Widmore without his trademark "Bynum slurpers".


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