Kobe's That Dude...Point...Blank...Period!

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LKnight
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Yall have known me for years on this site. And I for one, being a Laker fan, have never been biased with my opinions. I personally never felt that the "Who's the best player" debate was that lopsided in Kobe's favor. I always though a walking triple double in Lebron and the dominant D-Wade was always in the running for that title of the "Best Player" But last night, after watching Kobe's performance on both ends of the court. (Although their was a questionable possession at the end. lol) I think Kobe permanently closed the door on who THAT DUDE is. Wade did have....

outatime2002
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The Youtube video is just one more piece of evidence that LeBron has no class on the court. Kobe and DWade are ahead of LeBron by leaps and bounds in this department.

KOBE_THE_GREAT_ONE
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i don't like lebron. I have finals to study for right now, but when i'm done with school in a couple days, im going to list everything lebron has done stupid in his career. adios!

Harry
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L, that questionable shot killed me at the end when he airballed...I was really mad that Kobe wasn't taking Wade to the post. None of those misses would've happened. he should've said something to Phil, like "get me in the post". Kobe in the post on Wade = 2 points. It would be a seal, and a basket for Kobe. Going on the perimeter 1on1 resulted in some bad misses late in the game.

But like i said in my other post, that left handed hook shot put tears in my eyes. No one could make the shots Kobe makes. No one.

And his defense on Wade was nothing short of spectacular. Miami was smart though, they kept picking him off and no one was respnoding from the Lakers. Or else 1on1 Wade didn't stand a chance.

SAMMi24
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This is HUGE coming from you, lol. Its just what Ive seen and believed in all this time. NOBODY can make those shots that Kobe makes. When you do it over and over and over (not necessarily as game winners) there has to come a point and time when its not just luck anyomore- its skill. Kobe's shot was definitely lucky... but maybe a bit less lucky than it woulda been for some other players. And his defense? amazing.

I despise LeBron so much... Which is kind of pathetic since I dont even know the guy. But damn, he has little to no class. Hell of a player... but I cant respect that kind of stuff. Kobe may not have always been the mature player he is now, but I honestly never thought he was disrespectful to the game.

lakeshowsd
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Yeah, Kobe straight up told Wade last game with that shot, "You ain't the best in the business yet, D-Wade. I'm still the baddest, I'm still the leanest, I'm still the toughest, and I'm still the meanest." Kobe Bryant, mama there go that man.

maraud
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Some of you are saying that Kobe's winning shot was lucky. Well I have seen him make quite a few shots from 3 pt. land with two defenders on him over the last several years. What is lucky for most players is commonplace for Kobe. I have also seen him take shots with three defenders on him. Fish's shot was not too shabby either.

Harry
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^^^^Maraud, come on bro. That was definitely lucky. We've all seen insane 3's from Kobe, but that was a bank and no one ever intentionally banks a 3 from the top of the arc. I was 100% confident it was going to miss, just like Kobe's previous 239854238 game winning 3 point attempts (almost none of them were good looks). This one just went in....

clutchkb24
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Kobe's shot was unreal. I would go with 100% luck but not if it's Kobe. First, he was able to escape from two defenders. Then he slipped and was able to maintain body control and at the same time realizing the clock was still ticking. I know he timed his jumpand the release was not ugly at all. All while Wade was all over him. Some luck yes but you have to give luck a chance and Kobe did it.

Maxx
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If I made that shot it would have been 210% luck. If an average NBA player made that shot it would have been 90% luck. If LeBron made that shot it would have been 70% luck. If MJ made that shot it would have been 50% luck. But when Kobe makes the shot .... only 40% luck and 60% skillz!

LALayup
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Yeah.. we kind of have to redefine "luck" here. When Kobe defined his shot as "lucky" I think he meant that it was extremely difficult and you just don't expect that type of shot to go in very often. BUT.. the truth is that he did everything just right in order to even have a chance at all of making it over the good defense that was played. AND it really was incredible skill to even be able to get that kind of shot off, let alone to hit it.

Now if he had made a shot from half-court where he hurled the ball blindly backwards over his head or something like that-- then I would call it pure luck. But that shot vs. the Heat was done with some unreal skills. It's just not the type of shot that you normally expect to have a chance to go in. I'm sure Kobe would get it done more often with a tough shot like that than anyone else even though it's a very low percentage shot.

maraud
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Harry wrote:
^^^^Maraud, come on bro. That was definitely lucky. We've all seen insane 3's from Kobe, but that was a bank and no one ever intentionally banks a 3 from the top of the arc. I was 100% confident it was going to miss, just like Kobe's previous 239854238 game winning 3 point attempts (almost none of them were good looks). This one just went in....

Harry read the three posts that followed this one and you have my rebuttle. I do not need to say anything more.

ohiolaker
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Harry wrote:
I was 100% confident it was going to miss

I was so sure it was going in, that when the ball left his hands, I went straight to the kitchen to get my popcorn for the highlights.

maraud
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ohiolaker wrote:
Harry wrote:
I was 100% confident it was going to miss

I was so sure it was going in, that when the ball left his hands, I went straight to the kitchen to get my popcorn for the highlights.

Me too, when it left Kobe's hand I was up out of my chair cheering, I had that feeling that it was going in.

gemfow
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LKnight: I've never even really entertained the ideas of Lebron and Wade being better than Kobe. I have said that his age makes it inevitable because he will go down and they will remain. I think people look at Lebron's assists and the rebounds along with points and go crazy but Kobe is the only player in this league that I feel if he wants to do something he can do it. If Kobe truly wanted to average seven assists, he could we've seen him play so many different styles that it's silly not to think he couldn't. We have seen him in attack mode, facilitator mode, decoy mode and whatever else he has done. The guy is crazy, he takes left hand shots because him and Pau have a competition going. These aren't left hand layups he is taking but left had shots.

Die!celtics.Die!
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When the ball left his hands I was speechless, when it banked into the rim I coudn't shut up!!!

I'm not going to lie and write that I knew the ball was going in when it left his hands, but for some reason when kobe has or shoots the ball I always have a great feeling about the outcome.

Once again, TY Kobe...

lakeshowsd
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Call it lucky or call it skills. Call it whatever you want. It was still one of the greatest shots I've ever seen in my life.

ReliveThe3PEAT
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^ Definitely. I think it was a combination of both.

If Kobe hadnt defended Wade as well as he did on Friday, the game wouldnt be as close, especially if the Heat knocked down their FTs. Kobe did a magnificent job on Wade. I was VERY impressed on how he made that his mission, but it didnt surprise me. In that 4th Q, Kobe focused more on offense, and let Wade get his looks, but did what he had to do to win the game. He had 17 points that Q... thats crazy.

Well, well.... LeBron. Thats gotta be the most stupid move Ive seen him make. Looking at that, then looking at his dances during the game and before the game, has "douche" stamped in red all across the screen. Read Noah's lips. At one point he says, "Thats cold man..." Then when LeBron was at the line he says, "So what? Whatchu talking about?". In LeBron's defense, he's a competitor. roll

gemfow
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Personally the dancing doesn't bother me. I think the dancing is kind of funny, he's an entertainer, let him entertain. I mean come on LTB when Ronnie Turiaf was dancing on our bench it was so fun to look at, it was so funny, it was cool. Now Lebron does it and it's showing his lack of class and so forth? That's not fair.

rawnoyz
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For shannon brown, I thought it was bad luck that his cheek ended up inside kobe's left armpit. Anyone got a screen shot of it? haha

spankees
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LakerSUNDALO! wrote:
For shannon brown, I thought it was bad luck that his cheek ended up inside kobe's left armpit. Anyone got a screen shot of it? haha

Yeah dude I saw that. He got a nice fresh whiff of Kobe's B.O. for sure. He had his mouth open too so I hope he didn't swallow any sweat or armpit hair during that moment! Lol

ReliveThe3PEAT
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gemfow wrote:
Personally the dancing doesn't bother me. I think the dancing is kind of funny, he's an entertainer, let him entertain. I mean come on LTB when Ronnie Turiaf was dancing on our bench it was so fun to look at, it was so funny, it was cool. Now Lebron does it and it's showing his lack of class and so forth? That's not fair.

2 different things.

Ronny Turiaf was a cheerleader, cheering for plays. LeBron was dancing to mock his opponents, after big leads. Look at the vid. He stares them down, and dances. Read Noah's lips in the video. At one point, he says, "Thats COLD man". What's LeBron's response? "So what?". "Whatchu talkin 'bout?". Then that douche walks up to Noah, and does he really expect him to hop off the bench, and walk up the court?

"I thought LeBron's reaction showed how much of a true competitor he is". Please, nobody give me this ****.

If he really wants to be compared to the greats, he's gotta stay classy. Whether you're up by 20 or down by 20. At first I was like, "Okay, he's still VERY young, and has a lot to learn". But it seems like every year, the kid gets worse. Being young is also not a good excuse anymore. Im 18, and even I know this. He simply doesnt approach the game the right way. Its not a dance off, its a competition.

...and 1 more thing, Ronny shows no problem shaking the opponent's hands. When the Lakers lost by 39 to the C's, he walked over there, and shook hands, just like Kobe did.

ohiolaker
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Relive, exactly. Dancing at your team's bench is one thing, and I have no problem with it. Dancing on the court of play near the opposing team's bench is simply wrong, and lacking class. Now, I'm not the great Joakim Noah fan, but I believe he had every right to voice his opinion.

maraud
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ohiolaker wrote:
Relive, exactly. Dancing at your team's bench is one thing, and I have no problem with it. Dancing on the court of play near the opposing team's bench is simply wrong, and lacking class. Now, I'm not the great Joakim Noah fan, but I believe he had every right to voice his opinion.

I agree with you, that is equal to taunting in the NFL and should be given a technical foul.


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