The Official Offseason Plan Thread (P. 19)

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lakerdudeinindy
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^^^^I like the guys you have picked. Especially Ed Davis and Al Faruq Aminu. Both are solid young kids that could valuable starters/ role players that a contending team needs. Always going for the homerun in free agency is what has this team in dire straits now.

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I don't know about You, but I sure love me some Anthony Davis in the summer of 2016. The guy puts up record breaking numbers and has a bright future being only 21. Plus New Orleans owes us one after that vetoed CP3 trade Smile

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Kumanovac_17 wrote:
I don't know about You, but I sure love me some Anthony Davis in the summer of 2016. The guy puts up record breaking numbers and has a bright future being only 21. Plus New Orleans owes us one after that vetoed CP3 trade Smile

He's good, but they're not going to be able to get him in 2016. Pretty much every star signs that first big contract with their respective team. It's too risky to pass that up, and even then, the dude becomes a restricted FA.

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Nick Young has hinted that he's gone. Said he wants to come back and finish the season for what is likely his last games as a Laker. Considering he controls his future with us that should tell you he's opting out. He wants a bigger contract. So at least that's $1.2 million in cap space. I hope we resign Meeks & Bazemore as our back up shooting guards.

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Who are some realistic targets for a Nash trade? Asik, Josh Smith, Ilyasova and Larry Sanders come to mind. Asik is doubtful since he'll be expiring too, but Hou might want out of the balloon payment enough to make the trade.

Any other ideas? Seems like with some of the above ideas could also net a 2nd rounder.

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I don't think anyone is realistic in a Nash trade.

Kee543
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^Teams that want out of a contract. Nash should have value as an expiring if the Lakers are willing to take back years on a deal.

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Kee543 wrote:
^Teams that want out of a contract. Nash should have value as an expiring if the Lakers are willing to take back years on a deal.

I agree with JJCali, Nash has no value. Maybe for Josh Smith but that just depends if Detroit gets truly desperate to dump his contract which is pretty bad. Even if this were true they would want more in return and Smith isn't worth it. I cringe at the thought of D'Antoni letting Smith shoots threes.

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Most realistic trade is see for Nash is to Toronto for cash considerations. I don't even know if that's possible.

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I think the offseason plan (with Nash's salary coming back) is probably to get a real coach, let Pau go, add a top draft pick and sign Melo. That and bring our players back for another year. We'll also likely make trades during the season. We often do.

Then with Nash & a few others coming off the books the following offseason, add another piece.

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JJCali wrote:
Most realistic trade is see for Nash is to Toronto for cash considerations. I don't even know if that's possible.

That would be poetic justice. Nash wanted to be in LA so that he could get to see his kids in Phoenix on a regular basis. Now that he's said that he is playing for the cash, send him to the other side of the country. Brilliant! Lakers probably won't do that. I think they may use the stretch provision so that his salary doesn't hurt so much next season. But I seriously doubt that they will trade him - why would another team want him if he can't play?

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That was my point. No one would want him. Anyways, I never bought the whole being closer to his kids thing. I thought he came to LA wanting to get into the entertainment industry. He was doing those weird batman videos and was on Entourage. I say F him and send him to eastern canada (Toronto).

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I don't think we land Melo in the offseason. I think he goes for the money and stays for the extra 30 mill in New York.

But I do still think there are good free agents we should go after.

I think we should go after Ed Davis and Trevor Ariza.

And draft Marcus Smart.

Resign Pau, Wesley, Young, Bazemore

Marcus Smart / Steve Nash / Kent Bazemore

Kobe Bryant / Nick Young

Trevor Ariza / Wesley Johnson

Ed Davis / Ryan Kelly

Pau Gasol / Robert Sacre

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Who the hell is Ed Davis?

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And Smart's stock is falling

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Actually, the experts have been saying with the way his team played with him out and then when he got back, his stock pretty much went back to where it was. Which is probably the 6th pick, depending on where teams end up in the draft.

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This may influence teams plans this offseason, if Pau is one of the top players moving... Will LeBron James stay with the Heat? Chris Bosh answers 'True' By Rob Mahoney This NBA season has been uncharacteristically light on free agent speculation. There is no defining narrative on where some superstar might head next nor any wall-to-wall coverage of their deliberations. Aside from the occasional murmur as to what might be next for Carmelo Anthony, the majority of the basketball discourse extends no further than the postseason. There's a reason for that, and for the lack of preemptive offseason chatter. The free agent class of....

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Really don't think majority of the NBA expected any of them to leave anyways.

chustle1984
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we should go after deng. monroe in the offseason

chustle1984
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lowry/farmer/nash

kobe/henry/ Kent Bazemore

deng/young/johnson

pau/hill/kelly

monroe/draft pick-Willie Cauley-Stein/kaman

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Shepherd wrote:
And Smart's stock is falling

That's an understatement. He should've left last year...

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chustle1984 wrote:
lowry/farmer/nash

kobe/henry/ Kent Bazemore

deng/young/johnson

pau/hill/kelly

monroe/draft pick-Willie Cauley-Stein/kaman

Monroe's not very good. And we couldn't afford all three of those guys. 2 of them yes.

24All_DAY
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We could get all 3

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How 24?

AChad92
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If they all took pay cuts, which is unlikely, but I guess still possible. Lol

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Ok. Well yes, anything is possible.

24All_DAY
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Just like LeBron and melo hahaha

lakerdudeinindy
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JJCali wrote:
Who the hell is Ed Davis?

Back up power forward for the Grizzlies. The kid has a nice game, but we already have Hill and with the draft coming up we could fill that gap if Hill leaves. But if the Lakers grab Exum or Smart, then Davis could be a possibility.

chustle1984
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lowry or bledsoe ,deng the 3 i would go for

zone4mark
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I agree lowry and deng and bring back gasol and draft Julius randle

MambaFace888
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If our pick is outside top 3 , package it with Gasol and send it to Minnesota for Kevin Love.

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steven18
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A very interesting thought...LA can go after Rondo/Gasol AND Kawhi Leonard who just became a RFA next summer..he wants max money and he is definitely worth the commitment, i was intrigued by the possibly of getting Thompson but he signed his extension with GS this morning (witch was surprising given how he got "superstar" money)....But back to Leonard it looks like SA doesn't want to give him max money and is prepared to lose him in FA next summer. If (and it's a big "IF") the lakers can somehow lock up Leonard they have an option of either getting another superstar ( Rondo, Gasol, etc.) or waiting till the class of 2016 to go after Durant, Noah, Conley, etc. I hope that the FO gives a better effort in free agency next summer and go after young rising superstar players like Leonard. I'll post the article

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Spurs star Kawhi Leonard plans to explore restricted free agency in 2015 By Adrian Wojnarowski 4 hours ago Yahoo Sports San Antonio Spurs star Kawhi Leonard plans to explore restricted free agency next summer after contract extension discussions ended, his agent Brian Elfus told Yahoo Sports on Friday afternoon. Elfus and Leonard have held firm on their desire for a maximum contract extension, something Spurs management won't consider until July. "We feel Kawhi is deserving of a max contract, and we are disappointed that something couldn't get done," Elfus told Yahoo Sports. "There's no debating Kawhi's value. The market has been set. He's done everything the....

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steven18 wrote:
A very interesting thought...LA can go after Rondo/Gasol AND Kawhi Leonard who just became a RFA next summer..he wants max money and he is definitely worth the commitment, i was intrigued by the possibly of getting Thompson but he signed his extension with GS this morning (witch was surprising given how he got "superstar" money)....But back to Leonard it looks like SA doesn't want to give him max money and is prepared to lose him in FA next summer. If (and it's a big "IF") the lakers can somehow lock up Leonard they have an option of either getting another superstar ( Rondo, Gasol, etc.) or waiting till the class of 2016 to go after Durant, Noah, Conley, etc. I hope that the FO gives a better effort in free agency next summer and go after young rising superstar players like Leonard. I'll post the article

How can they get both? From what I've seen, we have like $17.5M in cap space.

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The Spurs are smart and know what their doing. They can match any offer a team throws at him. By letting him go Restricted, they could potential sign someone else next year before having to match another teams bid. This is what Houston was going to do if Bosh came. They were waiting for Bosh to decide, if he said yes they could give him max money and then sign Parson for max by going over the cap. Spurs are wanting to keep their options open, cause they know he is restricted.

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I would sign Leonard , Gasol , Reggie Jackson

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TERRY-TEAGLE wrote:
I would sign Leonard , Gasol , Reggie Jackson

I like this

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Ray wrote:
The Spurs are smart and know what their doing. They can match any offer a team throws at him. By letting him go Restricted, they could potential sign someone else next year before having to match another teams bid. This is what Houston was going to do if Bosh came. They were waiting for Bosh to decide, if he said yes they could give him max money and then sign Parson for max by going over the cap. Spurs are wanting to keep their options open, cause they know he is restricted.

If the lakers want kawhi then they need to get him to sign an offer sheet like the one parsons signed(2 years with the 3rd being a player option) on the first day of FA. This way the spurs would be forced to match in 3 days, taking them out of the rest of the good FA crop. And when they match kawhi would then be an unrestricted FA in 2 years if he doesn't exercise his 3rd year player option. This would screw up the spurs plans big time and maybe the lakers can then make a run at westbrook and kawhi in 2017 if they have the cap.

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TERRY-TEAGLE wrote:
I would sign Leonard , Gasol , Reggie Jackson

I love all those players but I don't think we can afford more than one of them. Gasol loves Memphis and it will take a max contract to sign him, is he worth 20+ million? Idk

Kawhi is restricted and the spurs would most likely match. And reggie Jackson is said to want 12+ million.

If I'm the lakers and I'm he'll bent on signing one of those guys I'd go for kawhi or Jackson since they are younger but marc gasol would compliment julius randle exceptionally.

If it was up to me I would try and sign guys who are undervalued and won't break the bank but would also help win.

  • Robin lopez is just 26 yo and is probably only going to cost a team 7-8 mil and he's a guy who can give you 10/8/2 blk with good post and pick and roll defense.

  • Wesley Mathews is 28 and a guy who gives you 16ppg 4 reb with good defence and 40% 3pt shooting.

  • omer asik is also 28. He's a 12&10 with 2 blk type of player who would give the team an intimidating shot blocker and take pressure off our guards.

  • Draymond green is restricted but with the Warriors having just given klay a max extension and bogut up for a new contract at the end of the year I don't think they would want to match a deal above the midlevel. Green is 24 and is a guy who can probably give you 15/5/4 with solid defense and shooting percentages if he were to start.

None of these guys are stars or will carry the team, but they are great role players who know their roles and can help win games. If you add a star next to a couple of these guy plus julius randle and potentially another top 5 pick that's a good foundation to start contending.

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LakerDymes wrote:
I love all those players but I don't think we can afford more than one of them. Gasol loves Memphis and it will take a max contract to sign him, is he worth 20+ million? Idk

Kawhi is restricted and the spurs would most likely match. And reggie Jackson is said to want 12+ million.

If I'm the lakers and I'm he'll bent on signing one of those guys I'd go for kawhi or Jackson since they are younger but marc gasol would compliment julius randle exceptionally.

If it was up to me I would try and sign guys who are undervalued and won't break the bank but would also help win.

  • Robin lopez is just 26 yo and is probably only going to cost a team 7-8 mil and he's a guy who can give you 10/8/2 blk with good post and pick and roll defense.

  • Wesley Mathews is 28 and a guy who gives you 16ppg 4 reb with good defence and 40% 3pt shooting.

  • omer asik is also 28. He's a 12&10 with 2 blk type of player who would give the team an intimidating shot blocker and take pressure off our guards.

  • Draymond green is restricted but with the Warriors having just given klay a max extension and bogut up for a new contract at the end of the year I don't think they would want to match a deal above the midlevel. Green is 24 and is a guy who can probably give you 15/5/4 with solid defense and shooting percentages if he were to start.

Nice list... I loved Green out of college and wanted us to move up to get him ... I was right about him .. Just a solid player

I would also like to make a run at Terrence Jones when he becomes available down the road

Asik might be too expensive... Lopez is decent but don't want to over pay for him

Matthews is a baller but a 2 guard... We have Swaggy already

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Yes to Draymond Green.

I would like Jackson but certainly not for 12 mil a year. If Isaiah Thomas can sign for 6 mil then I'd give Jackson no more than 7 mil.

If we sign both of those players then we need a true center. Either from the draft (Willey Cauley Stein) or from free agency (Lopez, Asik, Kanter, Monroe)

Keep Wesley Johnson for the bench squad. Re-sign Lin for mid level, sign Ed Davis to a long-term contract and retain Hill, hopefully to a cheaper price.

-Starters-

Jackson

Bryant

Green

Davis

One of the centers

-Bench-

Lin

Young

Johnson

Randle

Hill

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mathews is at the top of my list. hungry, hits 3s, plays awesome defense, can hit a clutch shot. very undervalued and is great 2 way player...stealing green would be another big step in the right direction, but unfortunately with randle it would be a bit redundant. if we could move hill after what is sure to be a career year for him for a center or PG, that would be another nice deal. i could see a greg monroe/hill swap since hill doesn't mind coming off the bench and could be a good glue guy in detroit. if rondo isn't traded, which I'm sure he will be, but if he isn't, getting him is a no brainer. anyone that says he's a headcase or injury prone just needs to see him play. i highly highly doubt he would come to a losing situation, but going balls out for marc gasol is another must-do for the lakers FO....after that try and sign lin and wes to decent contracts. give ed davis his money to stay and bam! that is a nice team. thing is, signing any big name FA we will need to pay them substantially less their first year and backload the last couple years.

i could realistically see this lineup

rondo/lin

kobe/swaggy

wesley mathews/ wes johnson

green/randle/kelly

monroe/ ed davis

AChad92
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bornandraisedLA wrote:

i could realistically see this lineup

rondo/lin

kobe/swaggy

wesley mathews/ wes johnson

green/randle/kelly

monroe/ ed davis

No way this happens at all. That's way too much money. More than what we'll have.

TERRY-TEAGLE
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This will be Wes Johnsons last year as a laker imo

It's just never gonna click with that dude... He is who he is ... Great talent that will never reach his potential

Purpcity24s
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I saw the Knicks trying to trade JR smith you think Jeanie and Phil pull something???

LakerDymes
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Purpcity24s wrote:
I saw the Knicks trying to trade JR smith you think Jeanie and Phil pull something???

We already have nick young who does the same thing as JR and Nick doesn't have the negative baggage of smith. Definitely a pass.

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The offseason plan has got to be to get rid of Lin, Johnson, Nash, Henry, Boozer, and Price. Then to sign either Leonard, Rondo or Gasol. The Lakers have to feel that they need to sign a respectable free agent this offseason to show the rest of the league that this is still a desirable place to play. Then the following offseason, wether Kobe retires or comes back at a huge discount, we would have the money to sign basically whoever we could get (including Durant).

Also we get Randle back and utilize Houston's first round draft pick.

I also have a feeling players like Hill & Young will be shopped around. Don't know if anything will happen though.

And finally, it'll be interesting to see if Davis sticks around or opts out for a much larger contract than he is currently receiving.

I think they go into next year with something like this:

Rondo / Clarkson

Kobe / Young

?

Randle / Davis / Kelly

Hill / Sacre

Purpcity24s
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I'm hoping for lineup like this next year...

PG.Reggie Jackson=8mil

SG.Kobe

Sf.Randle

PF.Lamarcus Aldridge=Max

C.Nikola Vuvevic=8mil

Let Lin,Hill,boozer,Wes,and Henry walk and Nash will retire...

AChad92
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I can't see Randle doing well at the small forward position. I also don't see Aldridge leaving what they have going on in Portland and Vucevic will be making a lot more than 8 mil a year. Reggie Jackson is solid though


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